#incorrect dickens

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RIP Charles Dickens, you would’ve loved Babylon 5’s season four opening credits

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Part 3 of RDR 1-2  on  Twitter/X

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Monsieur Defarge: happy birthday my love, here is your gift

Madame Defarge: aww an Evremond voodoo doll? Dear that's so sweet

Jacques 3: Hey did you guys hear? Marquis Evremond was murdered in his sleep last night

Madame: I didn't even do anything! The voodoo doll is reading my thoughts

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Dickens: There’s a lot of big ideas here. They might not all be good, but they’re all big.

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"Murder, She Jinxed" Clip

It was a Friday. A motherfucking Friday

“And I was promised 20 bucks, what’s the problem here?” Booloo was at the detective’s house, looking at the sugar-filled kitchen.

“Someone took the cupcakes for Chrissy’s party. We have a few innocent detectives, but we need to know, to see if Arthur’s innocent or not-” Raven inhaled. “Can you walk past the pantry?”

Were they serious?!

“Wheeler couldn’t have done it without their wheelchair getting in the way- plus those tracks were made by…” Raven made a ‘y’know what I’m saying’ motion. “...a bipedal detective…”

“Plus, Aggie would’ve freaked out over the sugar and cleaned it up, Emily would’ve freaked out, Theodore’s a smol murder husband…” Henry continued. “...also Gertie has proven her innocence. Dicky wouldn’t waste an hour of being ‘solid’. Polly, Anne, Charlotte and Natalie are nowhere near clumsy enough to knock the sugar over. Edgar has his alibi, so do Gary, Tommy and I. Santiago didn’t do it either, Dicky can testify. That leaves Mr. King and Mx. Edison.”

“So we’re seeing if Arthur could’ve done it?” Booloo asked.

“Yep.” Theodore sighed.

“Meh. I’ve earned 20 bucks for stupider. Let’s do this.”

(pic coming soon)

[mira-lee]

Charles: Are you sober ?

Sydney: I'm moderately functional

Charles: I will take that as a no

[aslightlydifferentchristmascarol]

Scrooge: Good news, Jacob! Our favorite Charles Dickens book has an animated adaptation coming out! Marley: There's a new "Great Expectations" cartoon? Yay! Scrooge: What? Marley: You said our favorite Charles Dickens book. "Great Expectations" is MY favorite Charles Dickens book. Scrooge: Um, no, it's not "Great Expectations". Marley: What book then? "Nicholas Nickleby"? "Bleak House"? "Martin Chuzzlewit"? "Oliver Twist"? "A Tale of Two Cities"? "David Copperfield"? "Little Dorrit"? "Dombey and Son"? Are you talking about one of his novellas? "The Cricket on the Hearth"? "The Chimes"? "The Battle of Life"? "The Haunted Man"? Scrooge: You know what? Forget I said anything. Marley: It can't be "Our Mutual Friend" because you said "GOOD news"…

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So, a post of mine has recently blown up, and I just want to say: it is 100% possible to both write a marauders era fic that is historically accurate and still be as gay and trans and nonbinary as anything that could possibly be written today. All of these things existed back then, people might have struggled to express it verbally without the terminology we have now, and they might have used to terms that were perfectly acceptable in times past but are now discouraged (example, transsexual vs transgender), but people of all kinds still existed. In fact, many of those people wrote books in the past, expressing a wide variety genders and sexualities.

You want some gay guys who get a happy ending (no "bury your gays" trope here!), try Maurice by E. M. Forster. Yeah, that E. M. Forster, of A Passage to India and A Room with a View fame. Originally written in 1913, it wasn't actually published until 1971 after Forster's death. It's about a rich aristocrat getting dicked down by his rugged gamekeeper.

You want some lesbians? Try Rubyfruit Jungle by Rita Mae Brown, published in 1973. Yeah, that Rita Mae Brown, who writes that series of cozy old lady cat mysteries like The Purrfect Murder and Murder, She Meowed. Wrote a semi-autobiographical coming of age novel about the 70s lesbian scene where her main character is just eating up that delicious rubyfruit.

You want some trans men? Try Metamorphoses by Ovid. Published 8 AD. Yep, some Roman guy was writing about trans men in year. fucking. 8. The particular poem in question is "Iphis and Ianthe" and Iphis is a man with a vagina, which is kind of problem because he's supposed to marry the beautiful Ianthe in the morning and Ianthe does not know about this vagina situation. So, Iphis prays to Isis, and the goddess Isis is like, "yeah, I can fix that" and gives him a dick.

If you want trans women... well, there's Myra Beckinridge and the sequel Myron by Gore Vidal, published in 1968 and 1974 respectively. But honestly it's kind of a fucked up and weird book, but then again Gore Vidal was a kind of fucked up bisexual himself with some terrible opinions. Look, not every one of these is going to age well. Myra Beckinridge was an important work that did a lot to subvert gender and sex norms. I would recommend reading a synopsis first to prepare for anything that might be triggering thought.

Fanfiction for a lot of people is a way to relax and enjoy a happier, brighter world, and if that's you then all the power to you. I sincerely hope you find the best fics out there to suit your needs. Not everyone likes historical realism, and not everyone wants to read about the uncomfortable realities of the past, and that is fine. I do. I like reading it, and I will close any fic that doesn't even try to attempt to remember the marauders era is set in the 70s. That's just my particular taste.

There's a paragraph in the novel The Female Man by Joanna Russ (1975 lesbian novel) where the author says farewell to her book and states:

"Live merrily, little daughter-book, even if I can't and we can't; recite yourself to all who will listen; stay hopeful and wise. Wash your face and take your place without a fuss in the Library of Congress, for all books end up there eventually, both little and big. Do not complain when at last you become quaint and old-fashioned, when you grow as outworn as the crinolines of a generation ago and are classed with Spicy Western Stories, Elsie Dinsmore, and The Son of the Sheik; do not mutter angrily to yourself when young persons read you to hrooch and hrch and guffaw, wondering what the dickens you were all about. Do not get glum when you are no longer understood, little book. Do not curse your fate. Do not reach up from readers' laps and punch the readers' noses.

Rejoice, little book!

For on that day, we will be free."

And Russ is stating that it is a good thing when books and movies become outdated and are seen as politically incorrect, like Myra Beckinridge, because this means that society has evolved. We know better now, or at least we know more than we did when it was written. And we are continuously striving to do better and be better and more accepting. Anyway, I don't know where I'm going with this except that I want more gay historically accurate 1970s snape fics, and I'm not going to apologize for that.

[dreamerinsilico]

They Don't Read Very Well: A Study of the Reading Comprehension Skills of English Majors at Two Midwestern Universities

(Yes, I've seen the viral post about this; OP made it unrebloggable and I confirmed with them that they'd prefer not to be linked back to in my repost.)

Nutshell version: Two English professors wanted to test the assumption that students largely were able to understand the readings assigned to them, and they set up a "think-aloud" study where English majors from two Kansas universities read and attempted to translate/analyze several paragraphs of Dickens's Bleak House. Results were pretty bleak.

I don't know how into the weeds I really want to get on this, but what I like about the paper is that it provides detailed excerpts of the students' analyses, and discusses patterns in how they did or did not engage with the text, and their overall level of comprehension. These sorts of qualitative observations are, I think, really useful for identifying core skill deficiencies and suggesting how educators might go about addressing them.

What was specifically striking to me was how okay most of the students were with just skipping past vocabulary they didn't understand, instead of looking it up. (And there's a lot of vocabulary and culturally specific references in those paragraphs that is challenging for Americans living in the 21st century! I had to look up who the Lord Chancellor was, and what a caboose is in the context of a sailing ship.) While I can't confidently posit a direct link, it really smacks of "whole-language" reading pedagogy approach, which I cannot emphasize enough, IS BAD PEDAGOGY. The paper doesn't have much to say about the students' success level in actually reading individual words, though it notes that they coded for incorrect pronunciations (which I don't think is super useful in English, given its infamously inconsistent orthography), but the habit of "skip it and move on" seems like it could easily propagated to higher level tasks.

Anyway, I'm not a subject matter expert - my pedagogical work has been almost entirely in STEM - but it's a thing I care a lot about, and I'm glad for these kinds of concrete qualitative analyses.

Some notes, in no particular order:

This study was conducted in 2015, so we're not seeing COVID-related gaps yet. However, the article is from 2024 (it would have been a large amount of work to transcribe, decide how to code, and analyze the data, even without any other disruptions), and the authors note that they expect to see even larger issues as COVID-era students enter college, and that it's important for professors to understand where their students really are in terms of literacy development.

Yes, Dickens is generally a difficult read for modern people, and that was kind of the point; the study authors wanted text that would provide some challenge even for highly proficient readers, to identify successful strategies/tool use for understanding difficult text.

Again, the students in the study were all English majors, and therefore presumably pursuing a high level of competence with literary text.

Yes, I've also seen the post calling the study design terrible. I am inclined to agree that giving the students more time would have been likely to give some students more opportunity to succeed; however, in my opinion rather than an arbitrarily chosen extra amount of time to do the task, a more useful thing to have in this kind of study would be benchmarking against the performance on the same exam of another group that could be reasonably assumed to be highly proficient (maybe grad students, maybe professors, just make sure they haven't previously read that specific text - and yeah, there's no perfect way to choose that group, but I still think having some standard to compare to is better than trying to argue that the task was somehow unfair *without* having that comparison).

Regardless of how harshly you want to judge the specifics of the study design, we know all about pissing on the poor over here - in the case of this study, the numerical details of how many students did poorly on the task are far less important than the qualitative information that was collected about how students approached the task. I said it earlier in the post, but that's where I think the value is, here.

[shyjusticewarrior]

DC Comics Incorrect Quotes Pt 245

Cop: Read her her rights.

Selina: You know what? I think I'd like to read 'em myself.

Selina: Chapter one: eat my ass, pigs.

Duke: What are you reading?

Cass: I've been working my way through Dickens.

Duke: You ever see the 1948 movie version?

Cass: David Cain wasn't much of a movie buff.

Duke: Well, I am.

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Zack post for Zack day 🍕

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Didn't want to clog the tags of lrb (Dickens reading study post) with fandom bullshit, but being into Jujustu Kaisen, a fandom revolving around a finite written text, does make me realize how many people aren't really reading everything when they read. Looking on Reddit, there's so many questions reflecting not just that people don't connect small factual details from earlier chapters to later chapters, can't understand complex details of the power system, or don't pick up on subtext (though there's plenty of those occurrences.) There's questions like "Why did Sukuna say 'You're the only one who's ever forced a role on me' to Maki?" which is a question answerable by literally reading what Sukuna said 3 pages ago! And JJK even has pictures! (Although to be fair, the pictures are kind of unclear sometimes.)

IDK, it's just like...good context to remember that a lot of people discussing JJK probably aren't actually comprehending large parts of it. And that post's description of people who struggle with reading as just forming a vague impression of what happens and ignoring any inconsistencies in their impression because they don't actually know what a text making sense feels like is congruent with my experience of many fans. (As is fans' use of external texts to make sense of JJK--when the external texts also frequently are incorrect.) I get frustrated sometimes arguing with people about JJK when I pull out specific citations but like. IDK, it's not a moral failing for people to not comprehend JJK and I should probably be chiller and just not expect to actually convince anyone of anything.

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Writer interview game

I got tagged by @reallyhatethiswebsite, and thank you! It made me feel so loved

I think most people I follow are tagged already, but I'm tagging @gravecleric0900, @adinfernumadinfinitum, and @savriea

When did you start writing?

I wrote some bizarre fantasy stories when I was 12-13 that included really, really weird smut, which makes sense when I think back, because I had really no idea how sex worked

Are there different themes or genres you enjoy reading than what you write?

We all have our own experiences and trauma, and honestly, I struggle being able to write characters with traumas that I have not experienced. I love it when characters are complicated, and that's probably why my favorite BG3 characters are Raphael and the Emperor.

Is there a writer you want to emulate or get compared to often?

I had no idea how to answer this, so I put Chapter 2 of Fine Print into a site that tells you how similar your writing style is to other authors, and I got fucking Charles Dickens. I hated every story of his that I was forced to read in school. Fuck Charles Dickens.

Can you tell me a bit about your writing space?

I write on my gaming PC! Office chair that is exceptionally old and I put a towel over the seat so that bits of foam don't stick to my butt. I should eventually get a new chair, but this one and the towel works for now, and so that's ok.

What's your most effective way to muster up a muse?

When I sit down and actually think what reading I wished was in existence. Then, I have to figure out a reasonable way for that to happen in a story. I like that puzzle of trying to figure out a way for whatever idea to make sense.

Are there any recurring themes in your writing? Do they surprise you?

I have only two so far, but insecure characters and characters that need real validation. I mean, I do empathize with this.

What is your reason for writing?

So that we could marry this cambion.

Is there any specific comment or type of comment you find particularly motivating?

I love it when people just go off with theories and observations, correct or incorrect.

How do you want to be thought about by your readers?

I'm a goofy weirdo who likes wordplay.

What do you feel is your greatest strength as a writer?

I love to set up payouts later and give little details to delight. There is, in fact, Dwarf hidden behind the breadbasket.

How do you feel about your own writing?

I'm kind of a perfectionist in so many areas of my life, that I want people to find it enjoyable. And that's how I find out I have a praise kink.

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A Tale of Two Cities characters as quotes from Salem Saberhagen from Sabrina the Teenage Witch

Lucie: someone's gonna end up crying. Probably me.

Dr. Manette: I've got bad news, that insane voice in your head is you

Charles: well needless to say, uh oh spaghetti-os

Sydney: there's a chance, however slim, that my detached sarcastic nature could be misconstrued as jerkiness.

Ms. Pross: if you misbehave for just one instant, I'll cut you man

Jarvis Lorry: what is wrong with this generation?

Jerry: you know what would make this go faster? Hands and a work ethic

Monsieur Defarge: guess I wasn't meant to be a mob boss

Madame Defarge: lets destroy everything that's dear to him (BONUS: personally I find knitting relaxing)

Barsad: sometimes I just like to hear myself talk

Marquis Evremonde: I urge you to accept me as your ruler

Little Lucie: I am so soft and fuzzy

Gaspard: and let's give a big warm welcome to sadness