#safe for exclusionist

[the-alarm-system]

Queer exclusionist are so funny because you just know they never went to a queer group irl, hey guys don’t freak out but queer clubs in real life are full of Lesboys and non dysphoric trannies and bi lesbians and femboys and endogenic systems and xenogendered trans people

[editedantiendoposts]

fakeclaimers when alters act like source : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when alters dont act like source : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when high headcount : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when low headcount : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you dont remember ur trauma : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you DO remember ur trauma : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when an alter dates someone with a different source : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when an alter dates someone with the same source and ISNT dating just bc of said source (guys this CAN happen btw,,,) : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you tell them that no matter WHAT fakeclaiming does more harm than good : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when factives : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when fictives : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when brainmades : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you tell them there is more to the disorder than just alters : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you act traumatized because you are : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you are publicly talking abt being a system : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you arent publicly talking abt being a system : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you dont tell them everything abt ur system : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you trauma dump to them bc they asked for proof : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

fakeclaimers when you dont wanna talk to them : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[wulfbones]

i love my “weird” queer mutuals, you guys are so very important to me

[loser-pet]

am I a system?? idk man, but sometimes it really feels like it. like, I’ll be thinking of a question, and a bunch of little voices will give out random imputs or a hesitant answer, and I’ll be like “wait is that right?” and hey, it is! or I’ll be questioning pronouns, and some part of me will really like it, while another part of me feels super weird being referred to by that pronoun.

if I am, I’m most likely monoconscience or some kind of median system? idk, still need to do research. I’m definitely not traumagenic (at least I’m pretty sure I’m not). I also don’t really experience switches either (if that’s what they’re called), and I’m happy with being the only host (that is, if I am a system).

to me, it’s more like being a streamer and having a bunch of people watching you play a game or go about your life or something; they can give imput and ask questions/give answers and have conversations, but you as the streamer don’t know everything about the people in your stream, and the people watching can’t take control of the streamer’s gameplay or their actions irl. (I even call the voices in my head “chat” to be silly lol)

any systems feel free to leave your imput or advice about more research or ways to confirm/deny possible plurality! I’d really appreciate it :)

[iveeaten3humanorganz]

“The lgbtq are getting too complicated nowadays—“ YOUR SO BORRRINNGGGG BOOOOOO REJECT NORMALCY! BE YOURSELF! BOOOOOO DONT LET BORING PEOPLE RUIN YOUR HAPPINESS 🫧🎀

[raccoon-living-in-the-garage]

When I was younger, I believed in an LGB hierarchy, one that not only measured oppression but general "queerness." This belief wasn't one that was pulled from thin air either, but a it was reflection of trends I saw on social media.

TIMs and TIFs were near the top, their "oppression" the most horrible, their lives the absolute worst, their voices the voices that actually mattered in discussions regarding LGB history and politics. These new, made up identities came next, the pansexual taking precedent over the bisexual, the omnisexual taking precedent over the lesbian. It all seemed to push actual LGB people to the side, ignoring us in favor of those who probably didn't even experience an ounce of same sex attraction.

Looking back on it as a grown woman, I realize just how terrible it is that the little bisexual me felt out of place in her own group because she didn't have a million and one identities that conflicted. I know I tried to prove myself to this imaginary voyeur that demanded I be "queer" instead of who I actually was. I chose a new name, new pronouns, I called myself stupid things like panromantic and asexual. All of my friends were doing it, so why didn't I?

This is to say, there is no such thing as being LGB enough. You are or you aren't. I am bisexual, I am same sex attracted. That's it. That's all there is to it.

[foxfairy06]

Hi, only wanted to ask about xenogenders: why do exclusionists think they aren't valid? Just curious

Thanks for this blog btw, one of my favs now :)

First off, let's talk about their history. They were coined by a cis, neurotypical woman who posed as a trans woman online. She basically insinuates that neurodivergent people can't understand what gender is. Which, yikes. Throughout the entire history of them, it's been said that it's "for neurodivergent people who have a hard time understanding social constructs like gender" (which I'll address later in this post), or "for neurodivergent people who have a hard time understanding their feelings, so they describe the way their gender feels like light and fluffy like a cloud, or angry and soft like an angry cat.". The problem with this, it infantiles neurodivergent people.

Which is fine when it's coming from someone who actually is speaking for themself. Neurodivergent people who experience something that does cause them to not be able to do something are allowed to convey that they can't do those things, and they are not infantilising anyone, and they are not putting neurodivergent people down. Having a disability is having a disability, it isn't good or bad, and it's wrong to act like someone with a disability can do anything. It's wrong to place expectations on disabled people they can't live up to, and when a disabled person can't do something, don't act like they're making a biased judgement about disabled people because they aren't. I can't just stop ticking, and my tics extend to affect more of my life than just my tics. My ADHD "infantiles" me in some ways, and there is nothing wrong with that, and don't expect me to be able to exist in the same way as a neurotypical person.

HOWEVER, the majority of people who label themselves with xenogenders are neurotypical or self diagnosed. They do not have the ability to speak on neurodivergence correctly. They just don't. They don't have the tools. They don't have the experiences. They don't have the time in therapy. They don't have the education. They are using neurodivergents as a scapegoat and in the process insisting that there is something so fundamental that we simply cannot understand. They are speaking for us, and have created false information about a group they can't speak for.

Now for the science.

Gender isn't a social construct. At least not in any way that is compatible with the concept of xenogenders.

• Gender in the terms of *gender studies* which was formed in the soft science of *sociology*, describes the expectations, performances, and roles associated with being a male, and a female. In this theory, a social man is someone who is masculine and a social woman is someone who is feminine. In this theory, these are learned behaviors enforced by society. Men are masculine, they're strong. They hunt, they have no feelings other than anger. Women are caring and nice and they cross their legs when they sit. Obviously this is not applicable to individuals. Because obviously most people don't fit into these definitions. This concept of social gender is useless for labeling an individual as a man or a woman. It's bunk. It's accurate for how society treats people though. Xenogenders do not have any socially ascribed behaviors, expectations, or roles. Therefore under the tucute definition of gender "gender is a social construct", aka gender theory, xenogenders are not genders. Some people could argue that "well my learned behaviors are light and fluffy like a cloud", that still doesn't mean that society perceives you as cloud-like or that your learned behaviors are similar to that of a cloud. It also doesn't have anything to do with the sexes, and therefore isn't compatible with this theory.

• Gender in terms of what we identify with is a different thing entirely, and is a neurological and psychological map of your sex characteristics. Someone who individually is a man identifies with a body that is entirely categorizable within male range, and someone that is a woman is someone with an identified body that is entirely categorizable within female range. Someone who is nonbinary, (nullsex or on the duosex spectrum), is someone who's identified body doesn't fit within those ranges. Gender is different from the "gender" represented in gender theory. This is because a man can look, act, sound, think, and express in the ways typically associated with women and still be a man. Even if he's trans. The social ascriptions to gender are meaningless, and gender itself is not. Xenogenders do not reflect any gender identity. They are not correspondent to an individuals understanding of their own body, and not equatable to transness or nonbinarism. They're a self-chosen label that bares no meaning. They represent nothing real.

Ultimately if someone wants to call themselves catgender, ok i guess I can't stop them and I'm not going to be a dick about it but I'm also not going to sit around and pretend like it holds any water or means anything.

[meerawrites]

'Bi means two' etymological fallacy -- not how far too many people think it does, I do have two hands with two swords in them though biphobes and transphobes fuck off. Similarly, the earliest recorded use of "fuck" in English comes from c. 1475, in the poem Flen flyys, where it is spelled fuccant (conjugated as if a Latin verb meaning "they fuck"). The word is derived from Proto-Germanic roots and has cognates in many other Germanic languages. Not to mention is biphobic for reasons apparent to us, the queer majority (bi people). Can I get some reading comprehension? Historical literacy? Understanding that synonyms exist? Or biphobic (internalized or not) to stop being such haters with no lives, so they harp on things they do not understand? No? The bi-visibility and correcting ahistorical nonsense will continue until things improve.

[sirenium]

Exclusionists will be blatantly bigoted and then turn around and claim that the pan lesbian they sent death threats to is the true danger to the community 💀

[tlacatecctzin]

[villains-support-group]

A new proposed lesbian flag! Made by morutefawnn on Twitter!

“based this heavily off the sunset flag, but felt like making it a wee bit more inclusive for people such as intersex and asexual lesbians :3” -Maker of the flag (morutefawnn)

“Why did doll make a new lesbian flag?”

> To include more lesbians and people who identify as the lesbian label.

“What’s the flags name?”

> there is no proposed name. The creator suggested pastel sunset flag or soft sunset. I suggest grapefruit flag.

“What do the colours mean / What’s the hex codes ?”

#FE9E86 = independence, gender nonconformity

#F6C09C = butch lesbians, nonbinary lesbians

#FEE7BB = lesbian joy, intersex lesbians

#FFFFFF = everyones unique lesbian experience

#FFB2DE = love for those who arent exclusively men

#F091ED = femme and transfem lesbians

#CA69EB = masculine lesbians, ace/aro-spec lesbians

[ancient-depressed-druid]

It feels so weird that as a bisexual woman I experienced prejudice twice from inside the LGBT+ community.

The first time was bc I thought i was asexual bc i felt the same way towards men AND woman and it couldn't possibly be sexual attraction (talk about internalized homophobia). So many people told me to kms for "pretending to be queer". Many more told me they could "fix" my sexual orientation with sex.

The second time was when i realized i was bisexual and people in the community (mostly lesbians, unfortunately) invalidated my sexuality and i suddenly became a "sexual deviant", a "farce that pretended to be bisexual for male sexual gratification" and a "cheater". Again I was told to kms. Again people said they could "fix" me with sex.

So, in one expierence I was not sexual enough, the other i was overly sexual.

In one I could never be with someone, the other I could never be with "just one" person.

Did my behavior change? No.

Did my morals change? No.

Did i suddenly go from not fucking to having sex with each and every person i could find? No.

I just had a better understanding of my own sexual orientation and opted for a label that best reflected that understanding.

And yet, people still dont understand why so many bisexuals are ace inclusionists...

[shitty-proendo-blackout-posts]

PLURAL IS FOR EVERYONE!! :D WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO USE IT!!!

[transmasc-lesboy-ramblings]

This kitty says to stop hating on peoples identites when it doesn’t harm anybody, be like kitty ♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪ (directed at the people who hate on contradictory labels)

be like kitty !!

[januscorner]

Anti Mspec Lesbian and Lesboy Blocklist

@prismcollective (anti Lesboy)

@locketfemme / @femmptaion / @potion0fhealing (Anti m-spec lesbian)

@violottie (Anti M-spec lesbians and lesboys, transandrophobic)

@meanbitchydyke (anti mspec lesbian, panphobic, and transandrophobic)

@princessefemmelesbian (anti mspec lesbians and lesboys)

@butchismo (anti mspec lesbian)

@cronaz-diary (anti lesboy)

@yourfavehatesmspeclesbians (Anti mspec lesbian)

@stepfordmaxxing (anti mspec lesbian)

@g00byg00b3rz (anti lesboy)

@itsdismay (anti lesboy)

@redhairbigshoes (added by kaut-nites)

@heartsanddarts (anti mspec lesbian)

@yearning-butch (anti mspec lesbian)

@stitchmyluvvingbones (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@catgirlies (anti mspec lesbian)

@ocd--culture--is (anti mspec lesbian)

@fuchial (anti mspec lesbian)

@thecanadianweeb (anti lesboy)

@moxx-n-angel (anti lesboy)

@luvcalico (anti lesboy and mspec lesbian)

@myusernamesyes2 (anti lesboy)

@kno-user-name (anti lesboy and mspec lesbian)

@pinkyfl4k (anti mspec lesbian)

@sailorsenshisweetheart (anti mspec lesbian)

@ewperttheartist (anti lesboy)

@that-rabid-lemur (anti lesboy)

@sevikasenby (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@bpdpaimon (anti mspec lesbian)

@troobie (Just fucked up generally)

@artinvain (anti mspec lesbian)

@blessing-18 (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@krissysbetle (anti mspec lesbian)

@thelesbianeducator (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@ilviloebseie (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@ratb1t3 (anti lesboy)

@fertilefemme (Anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@sapphic-shoka (Anti mspec lesbian)

@transmascbillcipher69 (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@normaxxxy (anti mspec lesbian and lesboy)

@bi-dykes (anti mspec lesbian)

Update: dykeishfreak, thatspep, and perennialkarmaofficial are no longer exclusionists

[bilesproblems]

Another day another reminder that "bi lesbian" is not, never was, and never will be a TERF term. Historically it referred to bi sapphics. But you know what is a TERF thing? Lesbian separatism. The idea that lesbian is exclusive, and that lesbians can't like men, was a movement made by TERFs and for TERFs. It's such a braindead take when exclusionists say we're using a term made by TERFs when TERFs have never liked us, and our term predates lesbian separatism - the thing they're ACTUALLY affiliated with.

I don't even know how any of you fell for this anyway. Why would TERFs make a term for being attracted to cis and trans women. Because they sure as hell wouldn't count that as being lesbian, and probably aren't attracted to trans women - because y'know, they're TERFs.