#snivellus

[shugister]

[the-most-faithful]

“Harry was also abused but he didn't turn into Snape”

This argument is likely, once again, to blame Snape. With a speech that sounds a lot like: "Harry also had a bad childhood, but he didn't become like Snape, he could have chosen to be good too" Do we really want to compare them? Let's go in order, I partly understand where this phrase comes from. Harry and Snape are in similar situations as children, as is Tom Riddle. Recluses in the Muggle world, poor, halfblood, misunderstood, treated badly by parents and peers etc... The similarity is fitting up to a certain point and fascinating BUT from the age of 11 onwards it no longer holds.

When Harry arrives at school he is no longer poor, he discovers that he has a mountain of gold left by his parents, to put it in a refined way: he is filthy rich. Snape never will be. Once Harry arrives at school he makes friends with Ron and other Gryffindors, makes positive friendships, is welcomed by the Weasleys, and finds people ready to protect him. Snape, on the other hand, had only one true friend (we will return to this point in the next chapters), Lily. Everyone else in his house wasn't really friends with him and had a bad influence on him over the years. He never had the support of teachers or other responsible adults. No one ever defended him, in fact he was heavily bullied for years in the place where he should have welcomed him and no teacher, no one defended him. Indeed he was blamed.

The similarities between the two disappear once they arrive at Hogwarts, Harry is famous and popular, Snape is not. Harry is respected, Snape is not. Harry has real friends, Snape doesn't. Harry has people protecting him, Snape doesn't.

So out of the love I have for Morgana, let's avoid making comparisons that don't hold up. If and I mean IF Snape had found himself in the exact same situation as Harry perhaps he wouldn't have become who he became and vice versa. Harry found support, if he had been alone, bullied and marginalized he would have made decisions and a different path.

I'm putting all the Snaters' false accusations into a Wattpad collection, if you have any other points not yet covered let me know in the comments or privately COLPE e MERITI - G. Monti E. - Wattpad

[overheard-at-hogwarts]

Snape: The kids get worse and worse every year, but people keep making them.

[loonylupinblack]

every marauders fans’ worst nightmare

[im-in-a-love-cult]

So, why didnt they just obliviate Snape after the prank? 😭

[lepoltergeist]

I'm of the opinion that there was nothing Harry could do to make Snape not hate him. Snape is a miserable git that refused to see Harry as himself. He would always try to find a way to rationalize his hatred.

*Harry answers the questions correctly.*

"A show off, just like his father."

*Harry gets sorted into Slytherin*

"He is mocking me, just like his father."

*Harry gets sorted into Hufflepuff.*

"He is talentless, just like his father."

*Harry gets sorted into Ravenclaw*

"He is a know it all, just like his father."

*Harry is a loner*

"He believes himself to be too good to make friends, just like his father."

*Harry is popular and liked by everyone*

"A show off just like his father."

*Harry follows the rules.*

"He is up to something, just like his father."

*Harry breaks the rules.*

"A troublemaker just like his father."

[dracoo-malf0y]

Keeping Up With The Malfoys E10 SEASON FINALE

McGonagall: DRACO MALFOY! HARRY POTTER!

Draco, jumping away from Harry: What?

McGonagall: WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU DOING HERE?!

Harry: In my defense… I was just enjoying it. I didn't take part.

McGonagall: Both of you. To Professor Dumbledore's office.

Draco: Ugh

At Malfoy Manor

Narcissa: Shit, shit, shit. SHIT! HOW COULD YOU LET HIM ESCAPE?!

Lucius: Why did you leave me in charge of him?!

Narcissa: fair point.

Lucius: Anyways, what did Snape tell you and the Mudblood?

Narcissa: Well…

Flashback

Snape: Take a seat and I'll tell you about it.

Snape: So… you want to know about your son's behaviour in classes… with… Potter.

Hermione: Yes.

Snape: No one asked you.

Narcissa: Severus. be polite.

Snape, rolling his eyes: His eyes are always on Potter. One time he sent Potter an origami bird, and instead of throwing it to him, he sent it by blowing a kiss!

Narcissa: This seems to be really serious.

Snape: If you want to help their cases, the best I can say is that they… kiss.

Hermione: WHAT?

Snape: I can kill them if you want.

Narcissa: So we have to get them to kiss and they might calm down after that?

Snape: Yup

Currently

Lucius: I am NOT having my son kiss Harry Potter.

Narcissa, pulling out her wand: Too late. *Grabs Lucius's arm and turns on the spot*

At Hogwarts

Lucius: I never authorised that Apparition!

Narcissa, scoffing: Like I give a damn.

Lucius: They'll probably be in Dumbledore's office. No doubt a teacher has caught them.

Narcissa: Right.

At Dumbledore's office

Dumbledore: It has come to my notice, boys, that –

Narcissa: Hullo.

Lucius: Can we just get this over with?

McGonagall: What are you two doing here?

Draco: Yeah, what the hell are you doing here?

Narcissa: Draco and Harry have to come with –

Dumbledore: I'm afraid I can't do that. They were caught doing some things that even I cannot explain. So they'll have to sta–

Snape: Albus. Let them go. Malfoy is in my house, so it's fair I handle this.

Harry and Draco stand and go with Snape.

Narcissa, passing Snape and taking Harry and Draco to an empty classroom: Thanks.

Narcissa: So… Draco, you know how you've kept talking about Potter, well–

Lucius, pushing Narcissa to the side: Oh, just kiss already.

Lucius: *pushes Draco and Harry's heads together and they kiss.*

Lucius: You're welcome.

Narrator: What happened after the kiss? Did Draco and Harry's obsessions stop or did they become even stronger after they kissed? Find out in Season 2 of Keeping Up With The Malfoys. (Bit of a cliffhanger, right? 😉)

[basiatlu]

Don't know if you're still accepting the poses meme asks, but maybe pose C2 for Sirius x Snape (whether as adults or teens), if you're interested ?

Btw your art is gorgeous, I'm so happy you reached the 1k followers, your drarry art is just so (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠) and your artstyle is so good? Like I don't know how to describe it but the poses and shapes just feel so satisfying to watch (there's something about the way you draw Draco's jaw, nose and eyelashes that is just so yummy).+ You know how to draw animals and kids, which I really admire

Thank you so so so much, Anon!! Wonderfully sweet of you to say 🥹💖 Drawing Draco has definitely evolved a bit since I first drew him last summer. I loved getting to draw a Sirius and Sev interaction so thanks for the request!

[licorice-lips]

Okay, so I was thinking about Snape and although I'm avoiding like hell speaking online about Harry Potter, I think it needs to be said because it falls onto the rest of fantastical literature as well, especially those stories that have parallels to fascism/nazism/colonialism in their magical world.

I'd like to start by saying I don't like Snape for a variety of reasons, some of them because of Rowling, others because of the character himself, and others because of his fans, but today I'd like to talk about how Snape's Redemption Arc actually sucks and why, and also about how we're treating redemption arcs as a whole.

Okay, so let's begin by making a sort of timeline on Snape's life: he grew up in an abusive household, suffered bullying by the Marauders through school years, bullied other students as well, called his best friend a slur, "apologized", joined a fascist hate group that actively persecuted and hurt people for things they had no control of, acted on behalf of this group for years, turned against the hate group not out of morals but because their actions began to threaten the people he cared about (like they always said they would, how shocking), bullied his teenage students as a grown adult, acted as a spy against the hate group when it came back, died.

Right, so before I dive into all those things, what we also have to add is that Art isn't made in a vacuum. Just like science can never be done by a completely neutral party, our productions of art are completely based off of our views, especially when we're talking about writing. As a writer myself, I can see exactly how my experiences as a person in the context I was born and grew up in affect my writing and my production of art.

For example, it's very common that I find enemies calling themselves by their last names in American/European fiction but in Brasil, we don't normally call people by their last names unless it's very unique and as a nickname. So when I write enemies, they always call each other by their first names, simply because it doesn't feel right to me any other way. On a more serious example, most of the countries in my fantasy books have some history of colonization or dictatorship because it's a part of my history and I feel it's impacts to this day, so it's something that reflects my own thoughts and ideas in politics.

So when we talk about Snape as a character, we cannot escape the fact that Rowling created him. And as a European author, it's more than clear —and that's especially obvious to people who suffer under colonization to this day— that Rowling has a deeply ingrained colonizer mentality. The goblins in Gringots are a clear and problematic representation of Jewish people, the domestic elves LIKING being enslaved and not changing the status quo by the end of the books, and even Hermione being ridiculed for her militancy on it — these are all representative of how Rowling views the world.

Although there's more, all of those examples make it clear that, when she looks at fascist ideology as a whole, Rowling doesn't think the ideology itself is the problem: the ending is the depiction of them getting rid of the "bad apples" instead of making the "roots of the tree" healthy again is parallel to blaming bad individuals for a system that is corrupted and therefore corrupts. So basically, what the Harry Potter books tell us by the end is that it's okay for you to perpetuate a racist system, just don't do it so openly. The problem for her is not the system, but these people she considers "bad apples" which is basically right-wing ideology.

And my problem with Snape starts here: because Rowling sees purist views as an acceptable way of thinking as long as you don't kill people because of it (because for some reason that's a step too far — but when the system oppresses, beat down, and hates on marginalized people, that's okay) — in her mind and in her writing, Snape's ideological affiliation earlier on in his life is not that big of a problem, especially when he "changes sides".

Snape's active participation in a hate group is dangerously and irresponsibly downplayed both by Rowling and by Snape's apologists and fans when this is, in reality, one of the two greatest offenses his character has to compensate for in his "Redemption Arc". So when he hesitates at nine yo to say to Lily that being a Muggleborn doesn't make a difference (even when he knows it does in a practical sense of what's happening in the Wizarding World), when he despises Petuney for being a Muggle, when he says to Lily that what he, Mulciber and their "death eaters" friends did to Mary McDonald was "just a laugh (btw, I'm sure the Marauders also think what they did was "just a laugh" as well), all of this is not only extremely reprehensible, it's the kind of thing that makes a fascist, a fascist.

And it's not that I don't believe teenagers cannot change their minds and grow with more ease than adults, it's just that this alone would've been enough grounds to understand why Snape's redemption arc sucks. His beliefs from early on, even before he goes to Hogwarts, are extremely problematic and hateful, and they uphold the very corrupted system that is perpetuated against Muggle-borns in the Wizarding World.

Then we reach the point I wanted to make: it's very clear throughout the books that child and teenager Snape struggles with feelings of deep hatred against his parents (especially his father, who's a Muggle), inadequacy in social life even among his peers (wizards and witches) and isolation, all of which make a person undeniably vulnerable to extremist ideology.

And here's my first issue with Snape and his Redemption Arc: his trauma and feelings should not be an excuse for his bad choices and yet, they are used exactly as such. Yes, Snape was an impressionable teenager and yes, he was influenced by an ideology in his desperation to fit in and find solace in a community, but that doesn't matter.

None of it matters because, at the end of the day, his actions for this ideology are just as harmful, just as awful, just as cruel, as the actions of someone who joined the Death Eaters for thoroughly believing Muggleborns were scum. He harmed people just as much as Yaxley, Mulciber, or any other Death Eater who joined Voldemort for their hatred just for his support alone.

And more than that, even if Snape was in a vulnerable state and impressionable, he was still receiving other kinds of influences, influences that were contrary to the bigotry and cruelty of Voldemort — and he still chose to ignore those influences. There was still a level of choice to what he became as a young adult.

But even if there wasn't, Snape is —or at least he should be— responsible for his own choices regardless of influence. As they say in the Kingdom of Heaven film, when you're before God and he asks you why you did something, you won't be able to say that others told you to do so or that it wasn't convenient to do the right thing — it'll not be enough. And it's not enough because your actions matter more than your intentions. Your actions will be the thing that will determine what happens next, not your intentions. It'll be actions that will shape your path and influence or directly impact the path of others around you, not your intentions.

The older I get, the more I understand the power of action and how it says more than any intention or feeling ever will. At the end of it, Snape's actions are what matters, not his feelings or intentions. But as humans, we're so prone to empathize with others that we actually believe that, because someone feels guilty or regrets the things they did, that's enough to forgive them.

We forget that it's not.

Earning forgiveness must come with 5 major steps —

Accountability — do they acknowledge the way their actions hurt us? Do they acknowledge the way they hurt us? Do they acknowledge their role in our pain?

Apologies — do they apologize? Is their apology sincere? Do they hold themselves accountable in their apologies?

Acceptance — do they feel entitled to forgiveness? Do they accept the consequences of their actions? Do they accept the boundaries you impose on the path to forgiveness?

Amends — Did they take steps to mend what's broken? Do they make choices to prevent them from doing this again? Do they try to help without crossing your boundaries?

Alteration — Did they change the behavior that hurt you? Did they take steps to improve themselves?

Those steps are fundamental in a Redemption Arc because it'll exemplify to the (young) readers what is forgivable and how forgiveness is earned, not deserved. That's what grits me the most about Snape's "Redemption Arc":

There is no accountability, at least not for joining and upholding a hate group, and we kinda get accountability for what he did in his friendship with Lily, but in a fucked up way, let's see:

It was nighttime. Lily, who was wearing a dressing gown, stood with her arms folded in front of the portrait of the Fat Lady, at the entrance to Gryffindor Tower. “I only came out because Mary told me you were threatening to sleep here.” “I was. I would have done. I never meant to call you Mudblood, it just – ” “Slipped out?” There was no pity in Lily’s voice. “It’s too late. I’ve made excuses for you for years. None of my friends can understand why I even talk to you. You and your precious little Death Eater friends – you see, you don’t even deny it! You don’t even deny that’s what you’re all aiming to be! You can’t wait to join You-Know-Who, can you?” He opened his mouth, but closed it without speaking. “I can’t pretend anymore. You’ve chosen your way, I’ve chosen mine.” “No – listen, I didn’t mean – ” “ – to call me Mudblood? But you call everyone of my birth Mudblood, Severus. Why should I be any different?”

It's very important to me that we dissect this piece of dialog because it shows a lot about Snape and how every time he's tried to apologize, there's no accountability.

He didn't say he's sorry he said that slur (to LILY and only Lily, might I add, when at all would've been ideal but I'll have some leniency because of the situation) — he's said he's sorry, but not for what he has done, just for Lily. He didn't take responsibility for his words as he should — he says it 'slipped out' or that 'he didn't mean, again just to LIly.

He accepted no boundaries Lily tried to impose — sleeping outside Gryffindor? Really?

Most importantly of all, he took absolutely ZERO steps to alter his behavior so that he could never harm someone again like he harmed Lily. And that's very important, I cannot begin to explain how: when we regret doing something, the most fundamental step to take in change.

Change is fundamental to forgiveness but it shouldn't be conditioned by it. If we regret doing something harmful, the first thing to do is to change our behavior. Instead, Snape not only doesn't change his problematic behavior, he doubles down on it, joining the hate group Lily pointed out as one of the main problems in why their relationship couldn't continue, acting in the name of said group for years and only backing down on it when Lily is threatened.

And that reveals something about Snape's worldview: for him, since that day he called Lily a slur, the problem wasn't that he was a bigoted piece of shit (like Lily said it was), the problem, in his head, was that he hurt Lily. And that's not true. The problem is, one hundred percent, his bigoted behavior, and Lily says as much, more than one time. He just does not listen to it. He doesn't listen to her.

More than that, though, you can try to point out that he redeems himself by acting against Voldemort but I'm sorry: what Snape did is not enough. He was part — and believed in — a hate group, it's not enough that he changes sides not because of values, but because one person who is being threatened is dear to him (which was the whole prerogative anyway so I failed to see how he's even surprised by this). You can say that this is good or honorable or "love" but it's not cute to base your entire life around one person.

It's not honorable to prioritize one person over a whole world he was threatening before and not caring at all about them. Disregarding other human beings in favor of one is not as pretty as people think it is and Snape represents this very well: it makes you bitter, it makes you become abusive, cruel, a bully to everyone else. It's not pretty, it's not understandable. Be a fucking decent human being, it's actually not that hard.

But I digress again: my point is, that just because Snape regrets the things he has done for Voldemort (not even out of morals, which drives me mad) it doesn't mean he deserves forgiveness. He doesn't and he hasn't earned it, he didn't even try. Actually, he's so stuck in his regret, he's harmful because of it: guilt is a trap, babes. It sucks you in if you let it and makes you miserable as well as anyone around you. You'll be so remorseful and yet you'll hurt people because of it.

And it's the same thing I've been saying since the beginning: we need to stop associating feelings with deserving forgiveness because you don't deserve forgiveness, you earn it. Either you earn it from someone else, from yourself, or from both, but either way, it's earned, not deserved. If I were to excuse my harmful behavior every time just because I regretted doing something instead of earning their forgiveness by taking steps to apologize to the people I've hurt, I would be compared to my father all the time. And THAT would've been an insult.

Anyway, let's just stop feeling sorry for characters, especially fascists, just because they regret something. Please, let us hold our characters accountable for the shit they've done adequately and make our writers actually put in the work to make them earn the forgiveness they crave instead of just wallowing in their own misery, stuck forever in a vortex of hurting and being hurt that sucks people in. It's not a good example for us readers, it's not a good example of behavior, it's not what a good person who did shitty things should strive to be and we shouldn't think it is.

[winnienora13]

I mentioned James Potter to one of my friends today and she said ‘’ The bully in Harry Potter?’’

I’m considering pushing her off a flight of stairs

[you-cant-be-sirius]

What if James was in love with Snape instead of Lily. What then?

fyi i do not ship this at all but, regardless, i shall oblige (ik this doesn't scream 'they're in love' but i thought it was a cute interaction nonetheless)

⚝──⭒─⭑─⭒──⚝

James: *on the phone to Severus* I can't talk right now, I'm doing hot girl shit. Severus: You're pulling Oreos apart and scraping off the frosting to save to make a mega Oreo, aren't you? James: Maybe...

[shugister]

[the-most-faithful]

It's Snape's fault

I share with you the latest madness I found on TikTok to attack Snape as usual. Now the Snaters have no more grip and are starting to deny the canon and invent things but this one made me laugh too much. I think we need to take the situation with irony.

One user (James Stan) created a video with Harry's quote after he saw Snape's worst memory. Harry questions his father. A mature behavior that gives depth to the character, you might say. But no, for the Snaters this is not conceivable, Harry is questioning James here, he sees him for the first time objectively for what he was, precisely a bully. But no, the James Stans want to convince the world that James was a perfect, sweet little angel so what do they do? Of course they blame Snape. It's his fault that Harry saw that memory.

It's not James who was wrong to bully Snape, but Snape who was wrong because he remembers it. But it doesn't end there, many snaters are so engrossed in fanfiction that they don't know the canon and end up saying things like these:

Do what?

Now it's clear, they don't know the canon, they haven't seen the films or read the books, otherwise it can't be explained. But luckily someone else said what I thought without me having to get into this discussion.

Obviously here the person is referring to the film that is less wors . In the book I would like to remind you that Harry invades Snape's privacy voluntarily, he secretly looks into the pensieve, it's not that he falls in there by mistake, he DECIDES to look at Snape's private memories.

In the film they certainly changed the thing where Harry, also a little angel, defends himself from Snape who is only doing his job by teaching him occlumency. But even in this case what would be Snape's fault, he didn't choose to show Harry that memory.

Zeke I don't know you but you're my hero right now, you've had way too much patience. So it's clear folks, the Snaters don't know the canon at all and even when faced with the evidence they have an answer that puts an end to any discussion:

Very mature.

[overheard-at-hogwarts]

[after Harry's first Quidditch match]

Snape: I could've let you die out there; then all of my problems would be over!

Harry: Well, that makes you ugly AND stupid!

[themarauderswife7]

James: when I die, donate my body but just leave my middle finger and give it to Snivellus thank you :)

Remus:

Remus: I’m not gonna ask but ok

[stargirl273]

James after Harry naming his child after snivellus: Look at my son, pride is not the word I'm looking for