So I realised why their dynamic felt so familiar/why I love them so much...
Charlie and Angel 🤝 Luz and Hunter: traumatised but optimistic girls who see the best in everyone, who adopt also-traumatised bad-but-sad-boys as their big brothers, help them heal, see past the edgy facade they've always had to put up to survive and don't judge them for their past mistakes, and act as the family they never had 🥹👍
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No shade to the person who made this post and I do not want anyone going out of their way to harass and attack them. However, I'd to point out that....
Charlie isn't "traumatized" at all
It's funny how they say that Charlie helped Angel heal when Luz actually helped Hunter through his trauma and comforted him - meanwhile Charlie just. Ran the fuck away. And Husk had to be the one to talk to Angel Dust rather than her.
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I will always be a sucker for the Pathetic Sad Boy who can defend himself but also Must Be Protected from the manipulative prick who's controlling him
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So, basically according to TA... What the fans "want":
A well written story;
Likable characters with a tangible character growth (no resets);
Sympathetic villain (wants to bring Emilie back for Adrien's sake);
Main couple has chemistry in all versions of themselves (Marinette/LB has feelings for CN unlike in the show, Marinette can actually talk to Adrien, and he's in love with "the girl behind the mask" not just LB);
Ladybug and Chat Noir being equals and working together to defeat Hawkmoth;
Adrien standing up to his father and telling him how he feels;
Chat Noir being in the final battle against his father!;
"Ladybug doesn't exist without Marinette", her powers are not what makes her special;
Gabriel's love for his son being more powerful than his hatered for Ladybug and Chat Noir;
Marinette and Adrien know each other's identities before getting together (no lies);
The heroes winning in the end and saving the world.
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What the fans "need":
Thin-as-air badly written story full of retcons;
Obnoxious female lead with obsessive stalker tendencies (that are rewarded at the end);
Male protagonist that is not allowed to take charge of his situation and is nothing but a trophy for the female lead (TA described Adrien as being Marinette's "Ken", so... he's canonically just an accessory for her character. That's... nice...);
Badly written villain (inconsistent as the rest of the plot, they wanted him to be sympathetic, but ends up coming across as just selfish, then downright deranged in s5);
Unhealty dynamics (Marinette stalking Adrien, CN not taking "no" for an answer, pictures of their person of interest on walls and pc) and there's only interest for one of their personas, Marinette-> Adrien, Adrien-> Labybug (Marinette is not interested in CN and Adrien doesn't show romantic interest in Marinette up until s5);
"I don't need Chat Noir for every mission. He's just like any other temporary holder". LB is the only leader (everybody is beneath her, even CN);
Chat Noir (one of the titular characters) not being in the final battle against his own father;
Adrien never learns the truth about his family or himself, meanwhile Marinette does (thus having more power over him... once again.... *cough* Chat Blanc) and still dates him;
Marinette has all the power, she's the bestest ever and she can do everything by herself (CN not needed);
Villain wins, destroys the world and recreates it to his desires;
Ladybug fails as a hero.
You know what? I'm pretty sure no one "needs" that. I'll stick with the movie. Sure, it's not perfect, but it's lightyears better than the show.
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