#tired of the discourse

[michealisnotcanadian]

I don't get all the Calypso discourse, genuinely.

Like, I love Calypso as a character, but it's the same way I love Antinous as a character. They're some of my favorite yet I'm not excusing their actions.

Calypso raped him, and even if that's not explicitly stated in the musical, she still was possessive and predatory towards Odysseus. Like, what part of "Love in Paradise" is supposed to make you feel good towards her?

I'm not saying that liking Calypso is bad. It's great. But no one should be excusing her blatant actions. Also, I'm not saying you should irrationally hate her as well. Look her up and make your own interpretations. Just keep in mind what she did and don't obliviously defend her. Thank you!

[morose-magnetrix]

Sometimes I fucking hate talking about media I like with my friends. I'm all 'I recognize X isn't done well, but I really liked Y and I loved Z!' meanwhile they're like 'actually you're wrong and your opinion is bad, this media is garbage.' If I say 'oh okay!! cool! let's agree to disagree!!' they're then like 'NOPE. MEDIA BAD.'

Like what's the fucking point of watching / reading / consuming something if you're going to be so overwhelmingly negative AND can't accept that other people might have different opinions???

[bosjess]

I eat “girl dinner” because I have gastroparesis

[blakbonnet]

as i grow older and age in fandom especially, i have waning patience for 2012 style fandom wars. i don't have time for the type of person who goes "why is this the 2nd top ship on ao3 when it bugs me", i don't have the energy to be friends with people who go "i specifically expressed dislike for this ship and people still write it?" and i have absolutely no time for someone who goes "this very personal trauma i have projected onto this random character and ship should be recognized and agreed by everyone else, otherwise they're bad people"

[the-muppet-joker]

One must imagine Syphilis happy.

[aropride]

it drives me a little crazy when people ignore that jk rowling is transphobic towards trans men. as if she didnt write a 3600 word essay on how we’re delusional autistic girls who don’t know what’s good for us. as if one of the first times she dipped her toe into public transphobia wasn’t her complaining abt the phrase “people who menstruate”. essay long posts abt how her actions have harmed trans women and jewish people and people of color and fat people and many other people- which is true and important to talk about- but not a single mention of trans men. it’s odd

[solfinite]

extra doodles below

[supertaliart]

It’s loving mom!Shaak-ti hours.

[leonardcohenofficial]

i think that if you are recommending people skip entire seasons of narrative-driven (vs. anthology) television programs you are not a serious person lmfao

[that-satireguy]

'most of transphobia is actually transmisogyny and doesn't affect trans men. Trans men are mostly only affected by misogyny.'

'trans men don't experience misogyny because they're MEN, what they experience is just STANDARD TRANSPHOBIA so just call it that.'

From the same blog.

I'm starting to think some of yall don't believe the shit you say and just viciously hate trans men.

[sforzesco]

something. about. the horror of being sent on an impossible (death) quest and obligations and hospitality politics. the trauma of not having a home, and then the trauma of being in a house that becomes actively hostile to you, one that would swallow you whole and spit out your bones if you step out of line. all of this is conditional, your existence continues to be something men want gone.

it's about going back as far as I can with the perseus narrative because there's always a version of a myth that exists behind the one that survives. the missing pieces are clearly defined, but the oldest recorded version of it isn't there! and there's probably something older before that!! but it's doomed to forever be an unfilled space, clearly defined by an outline of something that was there and continues to be there in it's absence.

and love. it's also about love. even when you had nothing, you had love.

on the opposite side of the spectrum, this is Not About Ovid Or Roman-Renaissance Reception, Depictions And Discourses On The Perseus Narrative.

edit: to add to the above, while it's not about Ovid, because I'm specifically trying to peel things back to the oldest version of this story, Ovid is fine. alterations on the Perseus myth that give more attention Medusa predate Ovid by several centuries. this comic is also not about those, either! there are many versions of this story from the ancient world. there is not one singular True or Better version, they're all saying something.

Perseus, Daniel Ogden

Anthology of Classical Myth: Primary Sources in Translation, edited & translated by Stephen M Trzaskoma, R. Scott Smith, Stephen Brunet

[rosetterer]

like how? like beep beep in his uber? come on

[guiltyasdave]

i’m so tired of the all joel fics are dbf and age gap and also trash takes.

first of all, god forbid a girl has fun and indulges in fantasies about that hot father figure guy, jesus christ.

second of all, you’re struggling to find fics that you like about joel fucking miller of all characters??? skill issue, i’m so serious. i’m convinced that you could name the tiniest niche trope to ever exist and there’d be joel fics about it.

THIRD of all. i’m not denying that many joel fics are age gap. or dbf, bfd, or whatever. you don’t have to enjoy them. that’s fine. no one’s holding a gun to your head forcing you to read them. BUT, when you do find a fic that’s none of those things and that you like, do you tell the writer? do you encourage them, motivate them to write more like this one? or do you leave a like and call it a day? because if so, you’re part of the problem and you have no right to complain. zero. say what you want about those fics you don’t like, but one thing about writing them? you never have to question if there are people who enjoyed them.

so just maybe, stop being whiny bitches who still have to understand the concept that not everything on the internet is created exclusively for them, and start being the change you want to see.

[interstellarsystem]

We're obviously pro-endo and have a lot of headmates who are endogenic, but we do have DID and a lot of trauma worked its way into our formation of our system. Which leaves us in a pretty weird spot in syscourse!

But one of the weirdest things we've noticed is... A lot of the anti endo mindset is completely anti recovery for CDD systems entirely, while claiming to protect them. Often there's the sort of ableist rhetoric that's all about "if you're not suffering, you're not disordered and therefore mocking us or fake".. Which is ridiculous to say the least!

We've seen claims of:

Systems are fake if they're happy they're a system, because if you're happy you're a system then you can't have been traumatised enough to get there.

Systems are fake if they love their headmates in any way, because plurality is a disorder.

Systems are fake if they post "too much" about being happy online, because being plural is a disorder and therefore suffering.

Systems are fake if they never show signs of suffering online.

Systems are fake if they're open about being a system IRL or sometimes at all, because it's a deeply shameful thing.

Systems are fake if they have less amnesia than full-on blackout amnesia, because it's in the DSM.

Systems are fake if they don't dissociate much, because it's in the name of the disorder and the DSM.

And we're here to say that's all plainly incorrect at best. It's also incredibly ableist, anti-recovery and downright harmful to CDD systems who learn they have this disorder, go online for support, and just see discourse and people getting fakeclaimed if they don't show of how much they're suffering online.

Systems can be happy that they're plural. Even if it came from trauma. Why? Well you can be happy that you're any way you are, regardless of how you got there, obviously. But there's also a crucial point here that CDDs and headmates often develop to protect people from trauma. Of course some systems would be glad that they're plural, in a lot of cases it's what literally saved their lives. This goes for the "systems can't love their headmates" thing too--plenty of systems are full of love for their headmates! Not only because they were there for them when it was needed, but because these are--depending on your view--entire people you live with, or parts of yourself. Why are you implying you have to hate that so viscerally to be real?

It's also a pretty well known thing that people tend to post their happier moments online, leading to this perception that they don't suffer. One, because that's how a lot of people work--their personal pages are public after all, and they don't want to be seen as constistently struggling. Two, it's downright dangerous to post in so much detail about your triggers, your trauma and abuse you're currently facing on the internet--even ignoring the fact that you need to be wary of your digital footprint, people can read these posts and use information against you. It's a choice many people make to not hand random people ammo on a silver plate.

Claiming that systems are fake if they're open about being plural in any space is simply ablesim. We've seen this take quite a few times, actually, and it never fails to be some of the most ridiculous ableism we've seen--it comes with a puritan "sweep it under the rug" mindset and the expectation that systems are ashamed of their plurality by default, or that it's simply too dangerous to share. While for a lot of people it is very dangerous to talk about their system so they simply keep that information to themselves, claiming every system should hide it for their entire lives and not expect to be received with kindness, compassion or accommodation is horrible.

As for the amnesia and dissociation... Therapy can help with these! You can actively go to therapy and get strategies to deal with the symptoms that come with a CDD without even going down the final fusion route! You can get it to a point where you have communication with your headmates, where you can switch on command, where you don't dissociate much at all.... You can work toward these goals with the right tools! Why does a system like us who's worked through years of therapy and years of working with ourselves within our own system suddenly get called fake once we start healing?

CDD systems should not have to fit what YOU think a true system should look like. They shouldn't have to suffer on show for you to believe them. They shouldn't have to hide all of themselves away in shame and never have their true selves known. They shouldn't have to pretend they're not recovering to be treated as real. They shouldn't have to feel like they'll be persecuted for simply being happy with who they are as people, or happy with how far they've come.

"Being a system isn't all fun and games" and I'm sure it's not for plenty of people. But do you think it's ok when a CDD system says they love themselves and think their system is fun? Or do you group them in with the endogenics who are "mocking [your] trauma"? Do you really care about people with CDDs at all in that case?

You can say "anti endos aren't ableist because endogenic plurality isn't a disorder" all you like--you're wrong about endogenics not being able to have CDDs by the way, but that's another post--but when you display so much ableist rhetoric toward your fellow CDD systems, I don't know how anyone can see you as "protecting" those with the disorders at all. You can't hide your hatred behind the guise of "protection" when you're harming your own community. You're not protecting us from anyone, you're trying to make us fit into a box full of spikes. It was never about protecting trauma survivors, it was about your personal hatred for others. We shouldn't have to suffer for you.

[thetourguidebarbie]

I think it would be helpful for everyone to acknowledge that "Israel is killing a high number of civilians in Gaza AND THAT IS BAD AND WRONG" can and does coexist with "other countries also do pretty much this exact thing and worse literally all the time but Israel gets a much more aggressive response because of antisemitism and that is a legitimate problem". One does not negate the other. This is called

✨nuance✨

[moonydanny]

Since we're seeing BoBs complaining ✨️again✨️ about Tommy being a pallbearer, let's just think for a second.

It's been pointed out before a million times that it's customary to have members of a Captain's house carry the coffin, that's why it's not Harry or May. Next.

"But Tommy isn't in Bobby's house, it makes no sense." If we're using that argument, Eddie also shouldn't be a pallbearer because, at the moment, he's not a member of the 118. Next.

"But Tommy didn't even really know Bobby." Babes, we can't keep having to quote canon, on-screen moments that prove this wrong every time just because you ppl watch the show with your eyes closed and your ears plugged. Next.

"Well, why don't they put another random firefighter from the 118, then?" 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Okay. Let's put on our thinking hats for a second. Who is the General Audience going to be less surprised to see in that spot? A random firefighter who we've never seen before ('cause they've never even been consistent with the last names of the background firefighters, let's be real)? Or the recurring character who:

Was an OG member of Bobby's first crew at the 118 and who spent months under his command.

Was a key element in saving Bobby and Athena from the cruise ship last year.

Was a part of the most recent, two-part emergency where he was a key element in saving Bobby's crew.

Dated Bobby's pseudo-son for 6 months.

Bobby *verbatim* said was good people and good for Buck.

Has been mentioned constantly, even in episodes he wasn't in, keeping him in the audience's mind.

Seriously? WHO makes more sense? A random person we've never seen or the character who was literally in the previous episode who has many connections to Bobby, even beyond their own personal one?

Like, be for fucking real. BoBs, babes, you just don't want to see Tommy 'cause you hate him. JUST SAY THAT instead of trying to pull dumb empty arguments from your asses. At least that way you people would be honest. 🙄🙄