#transmed discourse

[sophieinwonderland]

can you PLEASE stop tagging your dumb bullshit “syscourse” posts with lgbt tags. i’m begging you.

I mean... when you put it like that...

I think I'll do it more.

This was a post directly about how the "sysmed is transphobic" talking point harms transgender systems by branding transgender systems who have been harmed by sysmeds as transphobic.

This topic is every bit as much of an LGBT issue as it is a syscourse issue.

[casperthemainecoon]

Critizeing Transmeds as a Transmed:

Btw some of this is pointed out to radmeds and I know that not all transmeds do this its just that I've seen these problems in the community before:

Stop judging random people online: This is a thing that I've done before and this is the most common thing I see in the transmed community. You don't know someone's entire life or story based on a few photos or videos, just because they look like a cis person claiming to be trans you don't know that. Some people can't transition at the moment because of living somewhere unsafe or anything like that . And btw transition takes time so if someone doesn't seem to be transitioning that isn't always the case. I don't pass at all but I am transitioning because I've gotten a haircut, got a binder, told some people close to me my chosen name and pronouns (although they're not being used at the moment) The best example I could use for this is when I was arguing with someone online because they said they were a trans men yet looked completely female (not even GNC, they looked completely cis) I called them cis and said they weren't trans because they didn't experience dysphoria or a desire to transition and they told me that they DO experience dysphoria (social dysphoria) and desire to transition and the reason why they didn't want to transition at the moment was because they wanted to have biological kids and didn't want to mess up their body until they had at least one biological child which is completely VALID. Every trans person is different and their journey is different. Unless someone straight up says they have no dysphoria and have no desire to transition then don't judge because you don't know them or their life or their current situation.

Not everyone has to medically transition or do all the surgeries: This is more directed to the radmeds of the community and I know it is a small minority but I would still like to point it out. Anyways, as I mentioned before, EVERY TRANS PERSON IS DIFFERENT which means that their transition journey will be different. That would include some people not deciding to medically transition. Someone may not medically transition for many reasons, they may already have features of their desired gender and pass with just social transition, their dysphoria isn't that severe and they already feel comfortable with just social transition, etc. Now for surgeries, there are some trans people that will medically transition by taking hormones but they don't want to have any surgeries and that is completely valid. Again, no trans person is the same and people will have their reasons not to get any surgeries. Some trans people will be fine just binding/tucking and don't desire top or bottom surgery, some don't have dysphoria with certain parts of their body and don't need top or bottom surgery (for FTMs with no top dysphoria would probably mean they already have a small chest or no chest at all which is valid for them not to want top surgery), some people just don't want to risk surgery complications, some trans people already pass without surgery and don't feel the need to have surgery, etc. Transmeds belive that to be trans one must have gender dysphoria and a desire to transition and transition is different for everyone, some will only socialally transition, some will medically transition without having any surgeries, some will medically transition and have some surgeries, some will have all the surgeries and everyone's transition journey is VALID :)

Stop supporting right winged transmed creators like Blaire White just because they have a good point sometimes: The right hates ALL trans people, even us transmeds trust me I've tried arguing with transphobes using transmed logic and they were still transphobic. People like Blaire White not only makes the transmed community look bad because she is the root of most transmed stereotypes and strawman arguments (like how all transmeds are miserable, all transmeds are right winged cis bootlickers, all transmeds hate non binary people although Kalvin is also somewhat responsible for that stereotype) but also people like Blaire White have a lot of internalized transphobia as they side with the right which we all know that most of them are transphobic TERFS and transmeds shouldn't associate with these people as they still don't realize that transphobes are after all of us and you can't be a "good" trans person in their eyes. Just because these right winged transmed creators have good takes sometimes doesn't make them a good representation of our community, these people are usually fuelled by negativity which leads me to my next point

Just be more positive guys: Everytime I go on the truscum subreddit all I see is just vent after vent after vent and people complaining about tucutes. Although I do belive that trans safe spaces should allow people to vent, Jesus Christ its all I see, no wonder tucutes think we're all miserable. It wouldn't hurt us to be a little more positive, yea I understand being trans isn't the most positive thing ever, I get it gender dysphoria fucking sucks. But try to focus more on the positives of your life, like how you had a pretty nice day, you passed well today, how therapy is going really well for you, etc. We should have a community where people feel safe to be sad and vent but let's try to be a little more lighthearted :)

And that's all I can think of for now, if you disagree or think I've missed anything I am definitely up for debate and discussion :)

[how-to-tucute]

Oh yick, you went intrusionist?

This blog changed a very long time ago, years ago even. We were young, hurting from oppression, and took that out on others in the community to try to build ourselves up. Basically all of us have grown up and moved on and know where the finger really should be pointed now (actual transphobes, especially those in government, lobbyist, and medical positions). Those that didn't grow out if became radfems which is incredibly disappointing but not at all surprising considering how much transmedicalism and TERF ideology intersect. It should also be noted that most of the people originally running this blog weren't trans. There was me (a trans person who even at the time was far more mild on the issue than anyone else on this blog), a cis woman, and a former transman who de-transitioned and became a radfem (idk how the latter person identifies now, but that's how they did at the time), and one other trans person that joined later and basically never posted. We were always incredibly open about this fact from the beginning too. Is this who you were comfortable getting your transmed opinions from while telling so called "transtrenders" to get out of the community and stop speaking for trans people? 🤨 If you don't feel like you're being taken seriously as transgender without stepping on your fellow trans person (yes, nonbinary and non-dysphoric people are trans too, even if their experiences are different) to get there, ask instead why people don't just accept you to begin with and you have to make yourself palatable and fit neatly into cis-digestable boxes and be a model trans in order to have basic rights and not get hate-crimed? This is the fault of transphobes, not other trans people. If you are having a hard time accessing gender affirming care and the waitlists are long, ask why there's so little trans inclusive healthcare and why these lifesaving/life improving treatments are so often locked behind incredibly high price points. Again, this is the fault of transphobes, not other trans people. You don't want cis people policing how you live your life, what you do with your body, how you label yourself and so on because it's not their right or their place. The same should go for others in the community, whether or not they experience dysphoria or present or identify in a way that you personally find palatable. It's not your body, not your life, and it's not your business. I believe I am the last active mod on this account. I live in the US and over the past several years transphobia has become more and more rampant. This year, it's at it worst and lives and basic rights are under attack from every angle. Now more than ever the queer community needs to be united in the face of people who wish to criminalize our existence, both in the US and globally (this is not a US exclusive problem). If you wanna act like a cop and side with facism and police people's rights to self-determined identity and bodily autonomy, you do you but I, for one, will not be aligning myself with transphobes or beating down on others to win points with them. - Mod :3

[rjtbot]

If you say "transgender isn't a transid" I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you don't believe sex and gender are separate (at least for some/lots of people) I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you say "xenogenders aren't real genders" I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

It you don't believe gender is a social construct I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you assume ANY trans individual is a "faker" I'm gonna asume you're a transmedicalist.

If you tell people using neopronouns they should "just use multiple names instead" I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you believe transness is political I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you shittalk other trans people, as a trans person, based on their transness I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

If you say any facistic talking points in relevance to transness I'm gonna assume you're a transmedicalist.

[textk4kira]

I've noticed a trend behind the use of the label "transsexual" vs. "transgender".

Oftentimes transmedicalists use transsexual to differentiate themselves from the rest of the trans community.

It's disheartening and quick frankly, appaling.

You will not achieve acceptance in a cisheteronormative society by distancing yourselves from the "bad" or "confusing" trans folks.

Transsexual is a wonderful label, and we cannot allow transmedicalists to take ownership of it.

[hiriamcdaniels]

Don't make me tap the sign

[kripkerot]

this actually hurts my brain. “omg trans ppl want to be the most common version of their desired gender bc that genders literally all they’ve ever wanted ever??!!?!?!” yeah?? literally how could you get more girl than that. “omg trans ppl wanna be the opposite gender what……”

[our-queer-experience]

honestly, i do have a lot of empathy for transmedicalists because when i was 11-14, my therapist was full on doing a conversion therapy on me. she was this older woman who i had to fight tooth and nail to get to believe that i could be trans in the first place, that i could want hormones and surgery someday, not to mention liking boys as a boy. broaching the subject of liking makeup as an 11 year old was hard enough, convincing her that nonbinary people existed was impossible!

i remember how it felt to be so, so angry and fighting so hard for scraps of recognition. and i was so intolerant towards people who weren’t suffering like i was. i was enraged that i was getting into weekly arguments with someone to get them to recognize my dysphoria as something that not only existed but was killing me, only to have nonbinary and genderqueer friends with lovely parents and lovely therapists but those people still had problems?

i was suffering so badly and, while i was never a transmed, i remember what it felt like to be angry no one else was suffering like me. and that suffering is legitimate, no matter what people do with it.

and i wish this divide wasn’t seen as dysphorics vs nondysphorics. because i don’t think we’ll ever get anywhere if we see each other as fundamentally different people rather than people who have different ideologies.

i know what it is like to feel this way because i still do, a lot of the time. and i’m glad i no longer force myself to keep suffering or expect anyone else to suffer alongside me.

[narc-zomb]

searching forcemasc on Tumbrl waiting for forcemascing only to be met with transmeds, "forcemasc is evil" and discourse.

i am goig back to Pinterest, at least i actually will see forcemasc

[fallenfreak0]

what the hell with the transmeds here are you seriously that pissed of about a trans man projecting himself in his own art are you that fucking transphobic. I as a trans men who felt really dysphoric about his chest it really helped me realize it's okay to have these i don't have to be wondering if people see them all the time. And fetichization? really? as if he wasn't obviously stated multiple times he is pro kink. I'm a trans man, We're allowed to be sexual as much as we want and that doesn't make us less trans, STOP FUCKING INFANTILIZING US AND TELLING US HOW TO LOOK, you're fucking disgusting and honestly don't deserve to say you support us since you clearly want us only one way. Masc presenting, no boobs, blablablabla. I'm tired of this shit. And people acting as if Salem was fetichitazing any real trans person when that's HIS FUCKING OC'S??? be so fr it's literally "as long as they don't hold hands in front of me..." because it's literally "as long as you don't express your gender in a way i don't like..."

sincerely fuck you, you're not better than terfs.

[sophieinwonderland]

Hitting back at people who actively spread hate against you and support oppressors isn't lateral aggression.

Just because all women may be subject to sexism doesn't make it "lateral aggression" for transwomen to call TERFs out on anti-trans bigotry.

Even though all systems face pluralphobia, it's not lateral aggression for endogenic and mixed origin systems to call out sysmeds on their bigotry.

And even though all trans people face transphobia, it is not lateral aggression to call out the bigotry of transmeds.

We who have to constantly fight for recognition of our struggles are not the aggressors against groups who attack us at every turn. Literal communities bound together solely by their hatred of us.

We didn't start this conflict. We merely sought to exist as ourselves. We are not being aggressive by defending ourselves and calling out exclusionism and hate.

If we ever want to build safer communities for marginalized people, we cannot afford to tolerate intolerance, no matter from whom it originates.

[discoursecallie]

[controversal-polls]

Do you need dysphoria to be trans?

Yes

No

[oh-dear-sally]

I know Kalvin Garrah is kind of old news at this point, but I just feel the need to talk about my feelings about this because ultimately it impacted me a ton.

I was a Kalvin Garrah fan in middle school (I know, awful.) I had been in the midst of an identity crisis since I was 10 and started looking towards YouTube at that time. I was a MEGA fan of Kalvin’s. I watched all of his content and genuinely became such an insufferable, annoying, person as a result. I KNEW I was trans, but from watching his content I convinced myself I could only be a binary trans person. I told myself I was a man and forced myself to be hyper masculine as a result. I hated myself so much and finally decided I wasn’t man enough and never would be (because, news flash, I was not a man.) After that it took me years to come to terms with my identity, to accept that I am non-binary and to stop hating myself.

And I have read stories from other people, young trans kids, in these spaces online that just felt so uncomfortable in their transness. Kalvin Garrah, and other transmeds (trans scum, etc) had such a major impact on trans people and it is STILL HAPPENING with trans people trying to cater to conservative people.

Just please keep an eye on any young trans people you know, and be a shoulder to cry on when they eventually realize how this affected them. Only reason I was able to start loving myself, and transness as a whole, was thanks to my lovely friends and other content creators that made me feel welcome and safe.

[d-parade]

After watching some censored/ deleted scenes from some show called Win or Lose (from Disney, featuring a trans kid), I figured out why I have an issue with common western portrayal of ‘trans-ness’, as compared to the examples that I enjoy.

There’s a lot of focus on: ‘I hate how I used to be’ vs ‘I like how I am now’. It feels very… societal. An issue of insecurity and low self esteem rather than something concrete. On the other hand, good examples focus on the present, largely ignoring the character’s past (or how the character ‘used to be’). It accurately portrays how transsexualism affects someone and dysphoria causes them to naturally gravitate away from talking about their past.

In short, the problem I find in wrong portrayals is the focus on: ‘I used to be ___ and I didn’t like it’, whereas good portrayals come across more like: ‘I am ___’.

[velvetvexations]

Just so people know, "cissexual" is an old term, from when transsexual was still in wide use, it's just cis from before transgender caught on more and then they both got shortened to just "cis" and "trans" instead of transsexual/transgender cissexual/cisgender. These people haven't come up with a brand new word, they are bastardizing an old one, and accusing trans people of actually being cis, because that's what the word means :\

Do they know that this is just transmedicalism all over again? And that the community hates transmedicalism for a reason?

somehow, transmeds have returned