#astrology and childhood

[dreamofmetoday]

ASTRO BASICS #1: HARD MOON SIGNS AND HARD CHILDHOODS

tw: mentions of abuse

this post is focused on the common negative manifestations of the harder moon signs to help understand them better.

the moon represents your mother, childhood and occasionally older sisters or grandmothers. the moon is fallen in scorpio and in detriment in capricorn. these are factually the worst moon signs and are associated with a difficult upbringing. other difficult moon signs are: aries, gemini and libra. notable mentions: sagittarius, pisces. moon signs are both perception and reality.

COMMON CHILDHOOD MANIFESTATIONS

moon in scorpio (fall)

theme: emotional suffering

being an only child, outright abusive mother, the mother is being abused, the mother is unable to cope with a loss (and is therefore not able to nurture the child without interference of her own pain), the native is sent to boarding school/overseas homestay, an older sibling (sister) is unwell (and the mother is forced to focus on her and not the native), the native becomes overly sensitive to guilt tripping, the child witnesses the mother often emotionally manipulate others or knows she keeps many secrets.

moon in capricorn (detriment)

theme: restriction

being the eldest child, extreme strictness that allows no freedom, the mother forces the native to maintain a certain weight, the native is forced to overwork in some way (exercise, study, chores), the mother is invasive of the child’s privacy, since the mother is tense and unapproachable it means emotions are frowned upon - the vibe of, ‘stop crying or i’ll give you something to cry about’, the child witnesses the mother being strict on herself and the other parent often.

moon in aries

theme: forced independence

only or eldest child, the mother is absent or the native is left on their own often, the mother is always working, the native doesn’t see their mother and lives with a grandparent or another relative, the native had to do things on their own very young (walk to school, make dinner or school lunch, clean etc.), a strict household which causes the native to make their own decisions secretly, the native often feels they aren’t rewarded unless they really fight for it, the native often witnesses the mother treat others very aggressively, the child works to earn money from a young age, the native is sent to boarding school/overseas homestay. (think of matilda from matilda)

moon in gemini

theme: emotional neglect

having a young mother or alternatively being the youngest child, emotionally distracted mother, the mother is more of a friend than parent (this can also manifest as having a sister who is a lot older), the mother has lots of friends and is really social at the expense of the child, the native has a lot siblings or family that get more attention, the mother is lax but distant and forgetful so the native is left to their own devices, the native often gets confusing and conflicting messages from the mother causing a confusing and conflicted image of the mother. (think kevin from home alone).

moon in libra

theme: repression

image and family honour is considered extremely important, ‘putting on a good show’ is considered extremely important, the native is expected to adhere to certain beauty standards and maintain a certain weight, there is an overemphasis on manners at the expense of the native’s emotions, the mother is aggressive but aggression back is heavily punished (the native gets used to the mother taking things personally in general), the native is taught that finding a partner is important or grows up watching the mother focus on this a lot, the native often witnesses the mother backstabbing or gossiping about others.

moon in sagittarius and pisces is also somewhat often associated with difficult childhoods and can have some common negative manifestations, though these moon signs would not overall be considered negative.

for moon in sagittarius, since the mother is often associated with still being concerned with her own freedom, she can be a woman that is focused more on travelling, socialising or dating than on the child which creates distance that can be hard to heal. sometimes it’s associated with the mother being closer to another sibling which encourages the native to search for ‘greener grass’ elsewhere (both of these examples often result in the native moving far away from home or wishing to). for moon in pisces, this is considered a chaotic energy in which the (emotional) turbulence of the mother often upsets the native’s day to day living circumstances which can be taken highly personally by the native.

[harmoonix]

🧚🏼‍♀️Fαιɾყƈσɾҽ🧚🏼‍♀️

*Unlock your inner fairy*

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Come away with me now to the sky

Up all the hills and the sea

Far beyond where memories lie

To a place where Im free to be me

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🧚🏼‍♀️ - Earth Risings (Capricorn, Taurus, Virgo) have that amazing personality thanks to their strong aura and energy. They're that chill yet wholesome person

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Midheaven in Fire Signs will mostly wanna have a job based on their desires and on what they truly want/desire from life

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Having your 4H in an earth sign it can indicate your home can be your biggest comfort, out of all the places

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Moon aspecting the Ascendant brings that type "serene" energy to the native, calm, peaceful, I love how they resemble those things

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Saturn aspecting Venus want a high standard relationship because for them loyalty and teamwork matters a lot in the relationship

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Pluto aspecting Sun/Moon/Ascendant can be judged for who their are, or heavy criticized, it's important to be you even if you have haters

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Moon in Gemini/Gemini Degrees 3°, 15°, 27° moon loves this energy of self - expressing, I always think about this placement as "life in colors"

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Neptune aspecting Mars will always have a fiery energy, is electrifying and yet charismatic, full of boosts of energy

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Juno aspecting the IC (4th house) will have that familiy oriented spouse, possibly someone who wants also to live a traditional marriage life

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Let the stars fill your soul, when the moon cradles all

So, to yourself be true

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🧚🏼‍♀️ - When you have your North Node in your 9H you gonna decide which faith you wanna follow, which religion, education, schools, you have free will in that area

🧚🏼‍♀️ - North Node in the 3rd/5th house gives you the chance to express yourself how you want, you achieve things in your life by being yourself

🧚🏼‍♀️ - When you have your Mars in your 3rd/6th or 8th house Mars will react either very energetic either very tired. It's important to keep a balance between how lazy you are and how productive you are

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Water Suns can easily attach emotionally by others, crying in the same time?? Girl yes! Telling your secrets to each other? Girl no! There always should be a boundary between you and your emotional side

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Neptune in the 2H/4H/9H/12H can come from a background with a spiritual family, like your family members can be into spirituality

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Mars/Pluto or Venus in the 5H get tempted easily, like their lust is overdosed here, take care at your temptations especially if you're in relationship

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Suns in the 12H can have a various impacts, on the good side this placement can help at growing spirituality and the bad side it is that it will make you to self - doubt a lot (You're worth it🫶🏼)

🧚🏼‍♀️ - I already said in numerous posts that Venus in Earth Signs men are gentlemen, like their aura is screaming that (GENTLEMAN/MY MAN) I'm looking at Taurus Venus while saying this ofc

🧚🏼‍♀️ - My Juno is in fucking Aquarius okay..so there was once an Aquarius Sun guy who saw me as his "relationship material" and I was like "Um nope" his Juno was in Capricorn while my Sun is in Capricorn and I had no like for him 😅🫶🏼

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Can we appreciate Capricorns for wanting to date older people so they don't have to suffocate themselves with the ones who have not matured at a certain time

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Cancer Moons will basically attach to your heart like a spider cloth, and it maybe devour it at some point. If you love them they gonna "devour" your love

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Moon in the 1st/3rd/5th/9th houses love to party and enjoy life, the soul of the party placement literally

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Juno in 2H/Juno in Taurus is giving spoiling spouse,girl "you wake up with 24k gold earrings beside your bed from your spouse"energy

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Aries/Scorpio and Sagittarius Mars are those bad bitches who nobody plays with like, they don't accept it

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Mars in the 11H or Mars in Aquarius can become quite obsessive/possesive around their friends but in the same time can have lots of conflicts with them because after all Mars is the planet of war

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Stellium or lots of placements in the 9th house can show love for traveling/exploring/ even learning new things

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Stellium in the 5th house or in Leo can indicate a lot creativity, a very talented person, can indicate you love being yourself as well

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Juno in the 11H or in Aquarius can indicate your husband will for sure be one of your closest friends

🧚🏼‍♀️ - If someone has Pluto - Sun aspects you can tell they can be misunderstood a lot, is hard to fit in the norm if you're just trying to make a difference

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Aquarius Suns and Risings are different from their family members or relatives, like when you go for example and visit their family, these natives will always stand out of them

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Sun in your 6H/12H can make you just tired or drained easily, try to not force yourself to do certain things if you don't really want that

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Mars in the 1H/Aries Mars is an icon placement, it shows a lot of motivation and energy towards the things you wanna do in your life

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Jupiter conjunct/trine/sextile Mars makes you extremely ambitious, very desirable, and you can actually manifest things so fast with these placements

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Venus aspecting the Midheaven (in good aspects) can be appreciated at their work for their personality/aura/vibe

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Having more Cardinal Signs in your chart than others (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn) shows you're not afraid of change, sudden changes, you're ready for everything that comes in your life

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Chiron aspecting Ascendant (all aspects) can indicate a very big journey when it comes to self - discovering and healing yourself!! Your healing era is precious

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Having your 8H in a fire sign shows a person who is very sensual/passionate/has lot of desires and lots of naughty thoughts

🧚🏼‍♀️ - When you and a person share the same Lilith sign, you can both understand eachother on a psychic level, you can also tell which bad traits you have to eachother

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Pisces Saturn has a lesson about becoming more spiritual and finding your inner faith in a way, being more connected with yourself

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Sun/Lilith or Saturn in the 10H can have really big issues with their dads, the dad can be controlling/strict or just mean with some of these placements

🧚🏼‍♀️ - Chiron in the 2H can also be about being more healthy in your diet, like eating more healthy food and keep a balance in your body

~ Bad bitches grew up with Tinkerbell 🧚🏼‍♀️🫶🏼 ~

[middlenamesage]

The signs in sequential order through the experience of childhood

Aries- Here I am, world! A spirit life hasn’t yet cultivated enough for me to question what I am, my innate being is pure and uncorrupted. 🔥

Taurus- Oh damn, I have a body, and it has material needs. How do I secure those? (Probably titties, or something that looks like them and also brings comfort and nourishment😂)

Gemini- Now that I can walk it’s time to familiarize myself with all these sources of information in my environment. I am learning so much!

Cancer- Being able to walk away from mom also means realizing for the first time that I am separate from her. How do I manage these emotions? 🥹

Leo- Yeah I’m separate, I’m my own person and it’s actually an amazing thing! Don’t try to tell me how to express MYSELF!

Virgo- Turns out the independence I want also involves learning myself how to do some task(s) grown ups have been doing for me. Taking care of myself makes me feel like a big kid.

Libra- Now that I see myself as an individual, I’m starting to become aware that others have individual experiences too. This opens up a whole world of new considerations for me.

Scorpio- This is my first experience with losing a part of who I am because of the growth in my awareness of others. This will be the same energy that helps me to reclaim what was buried, somewhere down the line.

Sagittarius- I’ve learned a lot about the world by now, and also become aware that each person is an individual. So how do I view topics that don’t come with universal answers? What are some things I believe?

Capricorn- Knowing how I view things makes me start to think about what I could build in my life. What might be my ideal job or purpose someday? The homework is also increasing so I’m coming face to face with how responsibility can feel like it restricts me.

Aquarius- I’ve learned enough about myself by now to have high awareness of how I bring my self expression to a group. I’m in a messy process of figuring out how I can be an individual, within a group. I may experience poignant alienation at this stage.

Pisces- The alienation I experienced made me start noticing others who experience it too. I went from never even considering I was separate from anything else, to embarking on a thorough journey with many mileposts discovering my individuality, to reaching this mature awareness of some realities of this human existence, that connect all individuals.

[thatbitchmarge]

That moment when...

You realize that you are the "red flag" due to all the trauma you've been through.

You overreact to every small inconvenience, for people have left you, abused you, and threatened you for less.

You overthink every change in their tone, behavior, demeanor... You count the seconds until their next text. You convince yourself it's so easy for them to find someone better. "They are just so perfect!"

"And his ex? She looks like a Barbie! Soft skin, luscious, blonde hair... And those eyes? You could drown in them! So blue! God, she's so gorgeous! How could he ever look in my direction? Is he doing charity now?"

"He'll eventually get bored of me... everyone does"

And the worst of all? You hide most of it out of fear you'll make them leave due to your "champagne problems".

[rabiosantologia]

Saturn in the 4H realizing parents really didn't have a childhood

P.S.: I think that the 4H is often overlooked because it is a theme that somehow carries controversial topics as an accessory and also because it is one of the nerves of society... It's a reflection that parked itself in my mind

[astrologyaware777]

Astrology & childhood abuse & trauma

Sexual trauma, physical abuse, incest etc

Chart #1

Mars in the 8th house (mars retrograde)

( 8th is forced sex, secret sex, mars is representing the sex)

Mars opposite sun

( sun is father or father figure shows with Sun)

Mars square Neptune

Neptune is also hiding in the 12th

Neptune in the 12th house

(illegal relationship with child )

Mars in minor aspect to dejanira and Proserpina

Note: every single aspect matters , even the minor ones tell part of the story

Proserpina, asteroid number 26

Pluto saw Proserpina picking flowers and he fell in love with her & dragged her into the underworld

Now, Proserpina was the child of Ceres (god of corn and harvest ) & Jupiter (Zeus). She was taken and raped and Jupiter knew and did nothing, Proserpina was cursed to spend winters with Pluto and summers with her mother ceres.

Pluto was her uncle.

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Proserpina is in the 3rd house

(Father in law)

Venus is in the 1st house,

Venus is the Face, light eyes, genitals, urine, semen, body, shine and luster, throat, and glands.

Since this person is a Scorpio I using, Venus can show when this occurred

It makes Venus all that more Crucial being in the 1st house aspecting 9th house (father figure to this person) & 3rd house (mind) where chiron lies

The asteroid prey (6157) is in the 10th house in the sign Libra, ))prey to the 10th house (father in law) prey is square Venus , minor sun, minor Uranus,Showing her becoming prey to the father , sudden unexpectedly

3rd house represents father in law, hence why so many planets lie here further more..

Reference- https://www.indastro.com/astrology-articles/child-abuse-in-horoscope-how-we-know-the-time.html

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North node in the 8th house

as well, fated occurrence past life relation here as well

Back to Neptune her Neptune is 15 degrees Scorpio ,

which adds to her character and

using 360 symbolic degree calculator ( Astrotheme )

You have selected: 15° Scorpio

Janduz interpretation, rewritten by Astrotheme

"On the seashore, birds of prey chase away a wolf which tries to get near a carcass."

Independent, scheming, and quarrelsome character. One does not hesitate to embark on dangerous adventures, which brings about in failure and ruin.

This is very accurate for this individual and I encourage you all to look into degrees of yourself and people around you! This degree apply more into adulthood for this person but none the less , interesting to observe

Ruler of the 4th house in the 12th house

4th is our fertile womb

6th represents our virginity

if you were looking into a chart you could search for possible year this occurred (Solar return etc) and if virginity is taken then you’ll see the connected to the 6th too if your wondering why that’s relevant

3rd house is our mind & the third house is all about linking, getting and staying connected, bonding, loving, caring and sharing, siblings , neighbours

The fourth house and its condition are also reflective conduits for a difficult early home environment as well as a stressed third house, or third house ruler; add in a Scorpio Ascendant,

This individual has a Scorpio ASC

Chiron, Saturn in the 3rd along with Proserpina

Chiron is opposite Pluto& Uranus and trine Neptune , conjuct Jupiter

Chiron conjuct Jupiter really spikes true for this person, her pain is very much still amplified

Jupiter is also in the 3rd house & her sun , it’s been a big focus of their life, figuring out this weight on the mind and where the connection was lost and twisted

Ero is in 1st house , square Jupiter and sun

Eros touching the sun(father) & Jupiter (father figures, teachers)

This Jupiter also increases her sexual appetite as well and it’s square MC so she was known for this rep.

stepfather is 10th but it also is seen in 9th

Asteroid child opposite Chiron and conjuct Pluto

Child asteroid in the sign Virgo - copy’s adult behaviours and is the caretaker, putting others first and neglecting self, panic attacks galore

Dejanira square uranus & moon + minor to mars

Being a victim off and on, unexpectedly, sexual nature, being a victim to your own emotional cries for help and not being heard

later in life this person victimized themselves over and over again ! Cause unexpected Uranus and the emotional conflict of moon (mind)

Nessus square moon and Uranus, causing the abuse in the first place but showing this person will also continue to abuse themselves and be abusive if healing isn’t done

Huge emphasis on her reliving this event and torturing herself over it & living in victim mindset , “”everyone is against me”, everyone will hurt me”

Less than 3 degree Venus - in 1st house , more evidence of being raped or raping & Venus, mars or rahu have less than 3 degree and could be situated together

She has mars and rahu in the 8th

Venus represents vulnerability followed by Neptune

Venus in 1st square PREY , Venus aspects sun, moon, Jupiter, Uranus, Pluto, Chiron & lillith

Neptune is hiding in the 12th.. square sun , mars and Saturn

Neptune aspects Jupiter, Pluto , Chiron, ceres, Proserpina

asteroid child is in the 9th stuck between Pluto and Uranus and Neptune is in the 12th in the sign Scorpio , sudden, secret, illegal , sex- violence from a father figure

Chart # 2

Child, mars, Venus & sun all in the 12th house

Pluto in the 8th house

Pluto sqaure uranus in 11th

(a friend who did this)

Uranus is right beside Eros in the 11th

Pluto square sun, Venus, mars all together and all in the 12th house

This can also show that this persons memories are repressed here with all the planets in the 12th

Chiron in 11th I wound trusting friends, acquaintances, paying through gains from others out of suspicion of intentions

Neptune in the 11th, confirming

Neptune in 11th sextile child in the 12th..

The 12th house is in Aries , being a Hidden victim to males (mars)

Child (4580)

Nessus is now in “common “ elements ,

Eros (433)

( 6157 )asteroid prey

Proserpina (27)

Nessus (7066)

Dejanira (157)

This is all I have time for right now, there will be much added to this list.. soon not so soon

[astrolocherry]

3rd House planets & childhood trauma? A lesser known and talked about astrological phenomenon - the tendency of intense 3rd house planetary configurations to associate with an early childhood/formative trauma Here I talk about the astrological meanings as to why this is and how some of these conditions could manifest ~

thanks for watching & supporting me xx

[safieblue]

Astro observation

The 4th house is very important, it is part of the Moon, they complement each other, they are the person’s inner self, the interior, the root, their feminity as well so their creations. Life is a byproduct of creation.

Some could say it is who you truly are.

Be loving on your 4th houses yall 🥰

[ev3rythingbootifvl]

Ask For It & You Shall Receive

You gotta be brave enough to show up for yourself by ASKING for when you need help. This goes for the physical world and the spiritual world. People are ready to help you, but are you ready to help yourself(in a different way)? Are you ready to ask and receive and reciprocate? Are you ready to be brave and stick up for yourself enough to not let yourself fail just because you’re scared of asking for help? Speak and be confident, there is nothing to be afraid of! Everyone knows you can do it yourself! It’s obvious. But it’s time to start asking for help. You don’t need to struggle any longer. Release being hyper independent. Release the insecurity of past abandonment. “I am here now” it’s okay to relax and release the tension within yourself, you have nothing to be afraid of. You are strong. And I believe you are brave enough to release the old habits you adapted in order to survive. -Honey🐅

[redjennies]

astrology might be made up, but cancers are definitely the way we are because unless y'all went to some weird year round school, every single one of us had at least one birthday party that no one came to. like my family might be crazy but I know who shows up for me when the cards are down and it ain't y'all fakes. yes, this is a callout post for my best friend's fucking psycho Christian mom Kimberly Ann who ruined my twelfth birthday for no good reason other than "my moody preteen was talking back to me." fuck you. I STILL hate your bitch ass.

[heartlilith]

1st House Lilith in Capricorn: Let me know why every person I work with (all men besides me) went out to lunch without inviting me. Let’s all take a minute and pray that they choke on a turkey bone tomorrow 🖤

[1eos]

thank god i dont want kids bc could u imagine my child doing throwing a tantrum and i just look at them and go ‘can we let the aries moon take a backseat now? no more water sun antics let’s tap into that earth mars shall we?’ 

[sephiraa]

The Saturn Cycle (Your first 29 years' edition)

Ever thought why mental growth happens a little earlier in some people? While others party mindlessly and have fun, others feel the heaviness of existence (they might still party, but it wouldn't be the same vibe...)

If you've been reading popular astrology content or have done your own research you probably know about the oh, so, devastating Saturn Return. However, especially when it comes to unstable childhood survivors, I feel like it would be worth looking at Saturn's aspects as a full cycle.

We do not merely get our Saturn Return all of a sudden at age 27-29. We actually experience pre cursors to that shift, most of which we can remember.

Saturn's first square - Around Age 7

Saturn gives you your unique sense of self. It come’s around again to help you grow up, and the effects are felt, usually, in seven year cycles. Saturn forms a hard aspect (a square) to itself at around age seven. This is when you start separating your identity from your parents and have an individual, unique sense of who you are, regardless of them or other adults around us.

Saturn's first opposition - Around Age 14

Saturn’s in opposition to itself when you are turning 14 years old. This time is definitely the height of your adolescence, whether gloomy or glamorous. Usually we start to make a rough plan for our future or at least recognize our talents, likes, dislikes and dreams. Of course, it’s based on a limited experience but it still means a lot in the long run.

Saturn's second square - Around Age 21

As you're turning 21 years old, Saturn makes a conjunction to itself. This time we are becoming adults in the eyes of most societies, however under most circumstances unable to control all outside factors - you usually either study or work low or mid-paid jobs, and even if lucky enough to work for good $$, much of what you do is a show to both find our common ground among friends / family members / colleagues / love prospects and to find out what is different about you.

Saturn's second square - Around Age 28

Ah! the dreadful Saturn return! But is it really that bad? Actually, you might experience this period of about 2 years in a very different way if just prepare mentally beforehand. Get ready for the ground to shake a little bit under your feet. You'll survive it, so no worries. During this period you can expect to get rid of falsehoods everywhere, from your relationships with friends (or frenemies?), your career/study aspirations, your money aspirations, your spirituality and habits etc. Coming out of it myself, I feel like it was quite a ride but I've learned so so much about how to work with what I have, and not fall into material/social traps.

Did you experience any of these Saturn phases already?

How was it it?

[myrcenegirl]

[9florwax]

Mini Examination Of My Venus in Leo Rx Experience ♌️

(To preface this little rant, I would like to say that I was a career orientated child, so this may be repetitive lol)

During our transit and to its ending, I found myself being nostalgic. Which, if I’m being honest, is a frequent feeling when I have my tiny epiphanies (or make important changes). My sentimentality isn’t uncommon, but pretty scarce nowadays, so it’s something😀☝️!

It came in waves. At first, I had urges to listen to music from the 2010s on my daily commutes; every now-and-then, I had brief flashbacks of my “what I wanna be when I grow up” convos popping into my head; but eventually, I wondered if my younger-self would’ve been proud of who I currently am.

I knew what she liked and who she wanted to be— a mcbling, party-girl with tons of friends— a teenage supermodel, who wore heels to school, and had a nice car with a cute boy in the passenger seat.

However, we did not turn out like that… a pity really.

I’ve never felt disconnected from my inner child, but maybe we haven’t paid attention to each other in a while, yk.

Anyway, I feel like I’ve been subtly guided to refocus my intentions, especially towards my career path or just my path in general. I’ve been told by many people (and myself) to basically strengthen my self concept and take action (which I have problems with but that’s a different post lol).

It almost feels like I’m being told to pursue what I enjoy, and to believe it IS possible to be successful through it. Also, recognizing the importance of the mundane parts of life…

Maybe my inner child is worried about my indecisiveness and stagnation. I mean, she is very fiery, and action driven.. older me is a bit different 😅

(Btw, I got so much serotonin from listening to songs from my childhood. Rejuvenating. Truly loved jumping around my roomlol !)

[dancedance-resolution]

i want to get into astrology but i am not my sun sign At All. like it’s very true of me when i was a child, but after like age 16 it stopped being true. my sun sign is also identical to my moon sign so it’s not that.

i am the final HOUR of my sign and like 10% of sources that i’ve seen say that i am actually the next sign, and tbh i associate so much more with the sun sign that is the next hour. 🤔

i think it would also me a bit more accurate if my rising and sun/moon switched places. like if my moon sign was actually my rising, my rising was actually my sun, and my sun was actually the sign of the next hour.