#ectopronouns

[rjalker]

This is a poll.

This poll is meant exclusively for people who use it/its pronouns in English. If you do not use it/its pronouns in English, you can only use the "show me the results" button, which is the first option AND the last option.

You can use it/its pronouns with combinations of other pronouns and still vote, you just have to actually use it/its themselves in English.

You do not have to be trans or nonbinary to use this poll. The only requirement is that you use it/its pronouns in English.

I'll list the options out here before we get to the poll itself to help those with screenreaders since apparently polls just list all the options at the very bottom of the post:

Option 1: I don't use it/its, show me the results

Option 2: I use it/its, I think they are neopronouns

Option 3: I use it/its, no, I do not think they are neopronouns

Option 4: I use it/its, I do not know if I think they are neopronouns or not

Option 5: I use it/its, I do not care if they are neopronouns or not

Option 6: Option 1: I don't use it/its, show me the results

[Plain text: "If you use it/its pronouns, do you consider it/its pronouns to be neopronouns?" End plain text.]

@it-its-culture-is can you signal boost? Thanks :)

Feel free to reblog even if you don't use it/its!

[neopronouns-in-action]

036: Into Thin Air

Neopronouns: they/them/their/themselves (or themself or theirself)

"They are going to adopt a new puppy soon, as soon as they get a fence set up around their yard so the puppy can go outside without them having to walk it. Their uncle is going to help set up the fence, since he has a set of power tools he's letting them use, since they lost theirs. They're going to buy toys and train the puppy themselves.”

= = =

Mattil stared hard at the picture before them, struggling to pick out any identifiable features on the small, grainy photo.

But it was no use - - no amount of staring would make the picture quality any better, or make the person in the photo any more recognizable.

They finally had to give up, and lowered the picture away from their face. “I'm sorry,” Mattil said, “I can't tell.”

They could explain, “It could be him, but it could also be literally any other felin with grey wings and a blue crest, assuming he hadn't changed his presentation in the five years he'd been missing” but that didn't seem worth stating explicitly. Blue wings and a grey crest was the most popular combination for felin. There was no way to tell for sure if it was Jerris from just this single, (frankly crappy) photo taken from far away from the back. And they didn't feel like getting their hopes up for no reason.

You couldn't even see either of the felin's arms or even the shoulders, so there was no way to tell if they had both hands, or had a prosthetic.

It was actually starting to make Mattil mad, actually, the fact that such a terrible picture was what they'd been called all the way over here for.

Like, what, didn't they have any decent cameras over in Seorei? What was the point of a security camera if you couldn't actually see anything in it or recognize anyone?

The agent in charge, whose names Mattil had forgotten, shuffled xir yellow and brown wings with impatience, and sighed loudly.

Well, that was just rude. It's not like xi'd had to travel all the way to this stupid building just to be asked to stare at a grainy picture that could be literally anybody. Xi worked here. Xi as probably getting paid a lot to be annoyed. Mattil wasn't. They probably wouldn't even get any compensation for traveling here.

And why was the BAA even getting their hopes up like this? Jerris had disappeared five years ago. When the BAA had called Mattil, they'd made it sound like they'd actually found him, that he was alive.

But no, Mattil had to come all this way, in the cold, and for nothing! A stupid, crappy photograph that could be anyone, with nothing in particular to point to it being him except...

Except what? Mattil didn't even know! They'd just walked in, and the agent had handed them the photo, and asked if it was Jarris.

“Gu Mattil- -” The agent started to say, but Mattil cut xim off.

“It's /Som/ Mattil.” They corrected sharply, more sharply than they normally would, but this was more than a little absurd. “I'm an ancer.” For emphasis, they gestured to their clothes and makeup - - black and bright green and blue, with yellow highlights.

It was cold out, and barely warmer in the building than it was outside (the only difference was that there was no windchill, which at least was a positive) so they were wearing their long thick winter pants, waterproof boots, their winter coat, heavy gloves, their hat, and their hood.

Their partially extended wings had sleeves of their own, with green and blue tassels on the closed ends. All of their clothes were covered in repeating diamond formations of black, blue, green, and yellow.

It was the most brazen display of ancerity they could pull off without feathers of their own, and for this agent to just ignore that and instead speak to them like they were a child...

That was infuriating. What kid went around this brightly dressed?

The agent looked them up and down, xir eyes resting for a moment on their wings. Then xi met their gaze again, and said, not even bothering to hide the patronization dripping from xir voice, “Of course you are.”

Mattil saw red, and had to resist the urge to launch themselves across the table and spend the rest of their life in prison for assaulting an agent of the BAA.

Instead they shoved themselves out of their chair, and slammed the crappy picture they still held onto the table. “I'm going home now, if you don't have any more grainy pictures to shove in my face.” They said sarcastically.

They didn't wait for a response, they just turned and headed towards the door.

The agent only spoke when Mattil's hand was already pulled the door open, calling out shortly, “We'll call you in again if we have any further questions.”

Trying to get the last word in, and make it seem like them leaving was xir choice. Pathetic.

“Get a better krakking camera next time.” Mattil threw scornfully over their shoulder in response.

They stormed out into the short hallway, then out the door and into the wind-chilled cold.

Now they had to get all the way home without freezing to death, and for no good fucking reason, either.

Jerris had disappeared just a mile outside the city while flying over the forest. Why in all the levels of hell would he suddenly reappear on the other side of the world?

And why the hell was the BAA so interested in a missing-presumed-dead naturalist?

The more Mattil thought about it, on that long, arduous hike home, the more uneasy they became at the possibilities their mind was conjuring up to explain the connections.

Was Jerris really alive? Had he really disappeared at all? Why was the BAA so interested in him?

Just what, if anything, had their brother been up to before he disappeared to attract this kind of attention?

Had his disappearance really been an accident?

[rjalker]

(Extra paragraph breaks added by me for readability)

"I'm going to have to learn not to worry about you," Lilith said, smiling. "Welcome back." She had spoken in Oankali. She switched to Spanish, which meant she had heard me talking to Tomás. "Welcome," she said to him. "Thank you for caring for our child and bringing it home." She inserted the English "it" because in English the word was truly neuter. Spanish did not have a word that translated exactly. Spanish-speaking people usually handled ooloi gender by ignoring it. They used masculine or feminine, whichever felt right to them -- when they had to use anything. I filled in my own "its" once I knew they understood.

And there we have it folks. That's how easy it is to talk about respect neopronoun users in other languages.

This book was published in 1989. I do not want to hear any of you cowards who hate it/its users crying about how you can't use our pronouns and can't write stories with characters who uses it/its or why we should herald cis people who aren't even doing the bare minimum as saviors in 2023 or beyond. You have no excuse at all.

[rjalker]

[ID: A screenshot from the Pokemon anime, showing Pikachu smiling with its eyes closed and holding up one hand with two fingers raised in the peace sign, with fake subtitles added below to make it look like Pikachu is saying, "If Pikachu can use it/its pronouns, so can you!". End ID.]

[rjalker]

Neopronoun flags for each category and explanations for what they mean!

[Plain text: Neopronoun flags for each category and explanations for what they mean!]

All flags here except the neopronoun flag were created by me today, November 28th, 2022!

They are all public domain, meaning you can use them for literally anything you want, no credit necessary, though I will ask that you provide image descriptions whenever possible, and direct people to an basic (not an emoji or art or anything) version of the flag whenever possible!

If you want to change the brightness or contrast, you are welcome to! I did my best to make them accessible, but I'm only nonhuman, so they won't be perfect for everyone!

You can find the Super HD (8000x6410 pixels because these are the templates I use for Redbubble designs) Versions of these images here on the web archive to download and save:

"https://archive.org/details/Neopronouns-categories-flags-and-explanations"

Neopronouns

[Plain text: Neopronouns]

[ID: The neopronouns flag, with stripes of pastel green, cyan, white, pale yellow, and orange. This is followed by another version of the neopronouns flag, now with black text added over top that reads: "Neopronouns (neo + pronouns!) are any pronouns not in 'mainstream' use in the language being spoken! Some examples are: star/stars, ze/hir, it/its, ae/aer, xey/xem, rot/rots, they/them, sky/skys, and ve/ver. End ID.]

Neopronouns is the umbrella term under which all of the following terms reside as more specific categories!

All the following flags keep the five stripe layout as above, with the white stripe remaining in the center to represent community, solidarity, and commonality!

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Nounself pronouns

[Plain text: Nounself pronouns]

[ID: The nounself pronouns flag, with stripes of: orange, red, white, sky blue, and purple.

This is followed by the same flag, now with black text that reads:

"Nounself pronouns (noun + self + pronouns!) are pronouns like sun/suns/sunself, or wa/wave/waves/waveself.

If the pronoun set is based heavily on existing words, they're nounself pronouns!"

End ID.]

The colors were chosen to be colorful and fun!

Nameself pronouns

[Plain text: Nameself pronouns]

[ID: The nameself pronouns flag, with stripes of grey, sky blue, white, black, and berry red.

The first version is blank, and the second reads:

"Nameself pronouns (Name + self + pronouns!) are when someone's name replaces all pronouns! Like: 'That's John! John uses nameself pronouns, so instead of he, she, or they, you'll just call John 'John'. That's John, John's over there, John's trying to get back to John's home planet.' If the pronouns are the person's name, they're nameself pronouns!"

End ID.]

Colors were chosen because I associate them with Farscape, and I decided John Crichton uses nameself pronouns...before I even knew those were a thing! Lol.

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Ectopronouns

[Plain text: Ectopronouns]

[ID: The ectopronouns flag, with stripes of: purple, dark blue, white, green, and yellow. This is followed by the same flag, now with text over it that reads: "Ectopronouns (ecto + pronouns) are pronouns like: it/its/itself, or ŝi/ŝin/ŝia. Pronouns that exist, but aren't normally used for people in the language being spoken, are ectopronouns!". End ID.]

The colors were chosen because if you invert the flag, it'll be upside down with a black stripe in the center, which I thought fit the theme pretty well! They/them pronouns also fall into this category of neopronouns, since it's still relatively new for them to be used for singular people rather than groups!

The pronouns ŝi/ŝin/ŝia are from Esperanto!

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Novapronouns

[Plain text: Novapronouns]

[ID: The novapronouns flag, with stripes of berry purple, dark magenta, white, very dark violet, and purple. This is followed by the same flag, now with text over top of it that reads: "Novapronouns (nova + pronouns!) are pronouns like ae/aer/aerself or ze/hir/(hirs)/hirself! Any set of pronouns not based heavily on existing words are novapronouns!" End ID.]

The colors were chosen because I love purple, and associate it with space!

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Supernova pronouns

[Plain text: Supernova pronouns]

[ID: The supernova pronouns flag, with stripes of: gold, copper, white, silver, and dark grey. This is followed by the same flag, now with text over it that reads: "Supernova pronouns (supernova + pronouns!) are pronouns like: xiy/rik/ix/sirav ('sirav' replaces the usual _-self ending), or aix/(aed)/arix/aiv/aixelf ('aed' replaces contractions: instead of 'aix's going too', you say, 'aed going too'). If the pronouns use a different gramatical structure than usual, in whole or in part, they're Supernova pronouns!

The colors were chosen based on metals, which can only form inside a supernova! Gold, copper, silver, and iron!

Supernova pronouns can also be used as one long word, "supernovapronouns"! I just figured I'd put a space in there to make it easier to read and write!

I will be making pronoun pins and icons with these flags as backgrounds once I'm done my current project, so if you want to see those (or the other pronoun pins and icons I make) check out @custom-pronoun-pins!

[rjalker]

and just a link for the google form version

link to the tumblr version

[neopronouns-in-action]

Nonits be normal about it/its pronouns challenge 2023

[rjalker]

[ID: Different neopronoun pride flags set to a designs of flying saucers and stars against a black background.

The flags are, in order:

Neopronoouns, with stripes of pale green, ice blue, white, pale yellow, and pastel orange.

Nounself pronouns, with stripes of orange, red, white, blue, and purple.

Ectopronouns, with stripes of purple, dark blue, white, green, and pale yellow.

Supernovapronouns, with stripes of gold, orange, white, silver, and dark grey.

Nameself pronouns, with stripes of grey, sky blue, white, black, and berry red.

Novapronouns, with stripes of berry purple, dark magenta, white, very dark violet, and violet.

This is followed by a repeating, checker-board style pattern of all the designs alternating in diagonal rows.

End ID.]

Please enjoy this epic fucking pattern of the neopronoun category flags + spaceships :)

Edit: Added the nameself pronouns flag!

[rjalker]

More alien pride flag designs because I forgot how fun this design is!

Abinary, agender, aliagender,

aphorian, aporagender, aspec

bi, butch lesbian, butch

femme, maverique, polyamorous,

trans, unnattracted,

xenogender (dark), and xiqyne :)

[ID: Sixteen different pride flags set in the same design of flying saucers and stars against a black background, with the ships and stars in the stipe colors of the flags.

The flags are, in order from left to right and top to bottom:

abinary, with stripes of gold yellow, white, yellow, and gold.

agender, with stripes of black, grey, white, light green, white, grey, and black.

aliagender, with seven stripes in a gradient from lime green, to purple, to orange.

aphorian, with stripes of dark red-purple, violet, dark turquoise, pale yellow, dark turquoise, violet, and dark red-purple.

aporagender, with stripes of pink, pale purple, yellow, pale purple, and blue.

aspec, with stripes of orange, yellow, green, purple, and black.

bi, with stripes of red-pink, purple, and dark blue.

butch lesbian, with stripes of red, orange, light orange, cream, pale yellow, gold, and orange-brown.

butch, with stripes of red, pale red, orange, cream, and gold-brown.

femme, with stripes of dark violet, purple, pink, white, pale pink, bubblegum pink, and wine purple.

maverique, with stripes of yellow, white, and orange.

polyamorous, with stripes of dark blue, thin gold, red, thin gold, and black.

trans, with stripes of blue, pink, white, pink, and blue.

unnattracted, with stripes of green, yellow, white, pink, blue, and purple.

the dark version of the xenogender flag, with stripes of dark purple, dark blue, teal, gold, burnt orange, red, and dark red.

and

xiqyne,dark magenta, magenta, teal, cyan, leaf green, and pale yellow.

End ID.]

All these (and more!) can be found in the Pride Aliens collection of my redbubble store :)

Other flags already in the collection are:

MOGAI,

xenogender (pastel),

nebularomantic,

omni,

pan,

poly,

mspec,

ace,

nonbinary,

allo-aro,

non-SAM aro,

neopronouns,

nounself pronouns,

ectopronouns,

supernovapronouns,

novapronouns,

feel free to request more!

You can also feel free to save them and use them for headers, icons, moodboards, ect!

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These are no longer available on Redbubble since they’re just straight up stealing from artists, but you are encouraged to download these to use as icons, headers, moodboards, whatever you want :)

[rjalker]

[ID: Two pictures of a digital drawing of Murderbot from the Murderbot diaries, standing from the chest upwards in front of different pride flags. Murderbot is wearing grey armour that covers its whole body, with a helmet with a tinted visor hiding its face.

The pride flags are, in order from left to right and top to bottom:

Aliagender, with stripes of green dark purple, and dark orange.

Androgyne, with stripes of light blue, teal, dark purple, gold, dark purple, red-purple, and dark pink.

Androgynoid, with stripes of berry red, black, dark grey purple, grey purple, pale blue, grey purple, dark grey purple, black, and berry red.

Aphorian, with stripes of dark red-purple, violet, dark turquoise, pale yellow, dark turquoise, violet, and dark red-purple.

Aroace agender, with stripes of dark green, light green, white, light green, white, light purple, and dark purple.

Aroace, with stripes of dark green, light green, white, grey, black, grey, white, light purple, and dark purple.

Aspec, with stripes of green, yellow, cream, blue, and purple.

Autigender, with stripes of pastel purple, cyan green, orange, and red.

Ectopronouns, with stripes of purple, blue, white, green, and yellow.

Genderqueer, with stripes of purple, white, and green.

touch averse it/its, with stripes of gold, orange, black, grey-blue, and grey-green.

simplified it/its, with stripes of pale yellow, green, and blue.

Matrix-gender, with stripes of black, dark green, green, light green, green, dark green, and black.

Maverique, with stripes of gold, white, and orange.

MOGAI, with stripes of cyan, teal, green, yellow, purple, and brown.

Neurodivergent, with stripes of pale yellow, dark orange, black, dark green, black, dark orange, and pale yellow.

Neutrois, with stripes of white, green, and black.

Nonhuman, with stripes of yellow,, green, purple, red, and brown.

Nonplatonic, with stripes of black, dark grey, grey, white, pale blue, and sky blue.

Outherine, with stripes of grey, blue-green, green, yellow, pale orange, orange, red, and very dark red.

Pride, with stripes of pale purple, pink, red, orange, yellow, green blue, dark blue, and dark purple.

The progress pride flag, the same as above, but with triangle shaped stripes of white, pink, blue, brown, and black on the side.

Solitaremit, with stripes of pale grey, gold, orange, dark red, black, and dark red-purple.

Soulless, with stripes of cyan, purple, dark blue, navy blue, dark blue, purple, and cyan.

The answer is no, with stripes of black, dark grey, light grey, white, light orange, and dark orange.

Touch averse, with stripes of dark orange, dark red, black, dark red, and dark orange.

Trans, with stripes of blue, pink, white, pink, and blue.

Transnonbinary, with stripes of purple, black, blue, pink, yellow, white, yellow, pink, blue, black, and purple.

Transxeno, with stripes of very dark magenta, dark magenta, dark orange, dark gold, dark orange, dark magenta, and very dark magenta.

Unattracted, with stripes of green, yellow, white, pale pink, blue, and purple.

End ID.]

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You can use these icons as long as:

You do not misgender Murderbot or any other character in this series who uses it/its pronouns or any other neopronouns, and correct others when they do

you do not ship Murderbot with anyone. No, not even queerplatonically. Murderbot is explicitly disgusted by the idea of being in any kind of Relationship, including platonic.

You do not whitewash Murderbot or any other character in this series. Do not fucking draw Dr. Gurathin as a literal fucking Aryan ideal, or support those who do.

You do not erase the fact that Murderbot is touch averse.

you direct people to the rest if they ask where you got it.

The androgyne pride flag design is by @mogai-vexillology! I adjusted the colors on this version so it wouldn’t be as eye-straining.

[rjalker]

Making a new post because keeping track of replies is annoying.

@mynamese said:

Hold up- I saw some person say that their neopronouns were jiggle/jiggleself and then some other person was like neopronouns were xe/xem and then someone else said that she/his/them was a set of neopronouns??? I'm fine with the second and third as pronoun sets but the first just sounds like trolling to me

My response:

(First reply)

don’t assume someone is trolling with their pronouns just because you’ve never heard of them before. Someone combing she/his/ and them to create a new pronoun set is perfectly fine.

(Second reply)

Okay I read that wrong. no, there’s also nothing wrong with jiggle/jiggleself pronouns. Nounself pronouns are very popular.

mynamese said:

except nouns are not pronouns? You learn this in primary school?

My response:

are you here to nitpick grammar or are you here to respect trans people?

@mynamese nounself pronouns like the jiggle/jiggleself pronouns in your example are a type of neopronoun.

"Neopronoun" is an umbrella term that contains mainy types, like ectopronouns (it/its, they/them), novapronouns (xe/xem), and nounself (jiggle/jiggleself).

Which part are you confused by?

[neopronouns-in-action]

Can we submit stories with neopronouns tied to our cultures? Like, I'm Turkish and some Turkish nonbinary people use eb/ebru/ebris/ebrasa in English as well as Turkish. So is it okay if I write something about people who use eb/ebru/ebris/ebrasa and submit it? I know blogs don't usually want to write for cultures they aren't a part of, but if someone who IS a part of it does, then I feel like there's no risk of cultural insensitivity or inaccuracy.

Yes, absolutely!

Pronouns used in such a way -- across languages -- are a form of neopronouns called ectopronouns! :)

There would be absolutely no problem with people submitting stories on their own cultures, I encourage it! :)

[rjalker]

what should the "pronouns that are from a different language or not normally used for people" be categorized as

like unconventional but. shorter than that and something easy to remember.

maybe this is where xeno- or exo- prefixes could be used?

or oddpronouns lol. but some people might think that's mean.

or ecto-?

Edit: Yeah, gonna go with ectopronouns :)

[rjalker]

also yes I am considering they/them to be neopronouns because even though they're /more/ accepted than other neopronouns, most people will still pitch a fit about them. They count as ectopronouns for this categorization.

[rjalker]

I like ectopronouns. I think I'm gonna go with that. also, I like ghosts.