#the variants of dionysus

[witchthewriter]

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐒𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐃𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐲𝐬𝐮𝐬/𝐁𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐡𝐮𝐬

Those that self-indulge; drink, gamble, smoke, drugs - they can be the life of the party and/or the comic relief. Their storyline/plot may be addiction, or they're known for overindulging. They're the characters who like to party or get lost in the oblivion of substance abuse. A range of personalities, they usually come down to being lone wolves or get attached to people easily and wholeheartedly. No one seems to know the 'real' them. Because they don't like letting people in.

𝐶𝑎𝑝𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝐽𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑆𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑜𝑤

𝑇𝑖𝑔 𝑇𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑟

𝐻𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑘

𝐻𝑎𝑦𝑚𝑖𝑡𝑐ℎ 𝐴𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑦

𝐾𝑙𝑎𝑢𝑠 𝐻𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑠

𝐴𝑟𝑡ℎ𝑢𝑟 𝑆ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑏𝑦

𝐴𝑟𝑔𝑦𝑙𝑒

𝐵𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑛

𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑟 𝐹𝑎ℎ𝑒𝑦

[darksilvania]

Mega Kroelian SLOWBRO (Grass/Ghost)

Mega evolution of Kroelian SLOWBRO using K.Slowbronite

While Kroelian SLOWBRO & SLOWKING are based on the Hellenistic aspects of Dionysus, Mega SLOWBRO is based on the Mycenaean Dionysus, who was a god of the wild, of death and rebirth

It is designed after a Satyr, as they are heavily related to Dionysus and are often despicted with him as part of his entourage alongside the maenads

Also here are the shiny colors for the rest of the line

[babyrdie]

More Hermes here.

Based on the myth in which Zeus gives baby Dionysus to Hermes. Apparently, this event fits into one of those types of common myths, because surprisingly it has several sources and versions and is even an element also present in Roman mythology. I don't know why, but I didn't expect it to have as many variants as I found (or, at least, that such variants had come to us in such numbers), although I knew there was a famous statue showing this (and I discovered there was an amphora also). Anyway, I'm not basing it on any specific version, just the basic idea of Hermes having a role in being temporarily responsible for Dionysus.

Dionysus's design has already been explained previously, I just made him a baby. As a result, the horns are smaller and there is less detail. Maybe the next time I make him an adult his design will change, but it wasn't this time since he's a baby here.

As for Hermes, I used the idea of the winged petasus since it's a typical symbol of his and in this drawing you can't see it, but I will probably also keep the wings on his feet. I checked amphorae that had Hermes on them and noticed that it's common for him to be portrayed wearing a chlamys as it's an outfit often worn by travelers, so I drew him wearing one too. Like Dionysus, Hermes is both represented in a younger form (without a beard) and in an older form (with a beard). I decided to go with the younger version, because my first contact with him in ancient sources was when I read Homer and Homer described him like that, so that was the image I had of Hermes. In this drawing you can't see it because of the clothes, but I usually draw the body in the sketch before covering it and for Hermes I used Olympic runners as a reference to get an idea of a physique associated with speed.

[creart23-blog]

Bacchus e Ampelos (Uffizi, Florence) 2nd century AD

Fratelli Alinari, Bacchus and Ampelos". Pre-1865 image of a Roman statue in the Galleria degli Uffizi, Florence.

The young and handsome satyr Ampelos, lover of Dionysus, having mounted on the back of a wild bull, boldly cried out to the Moon "Give me the best, Selene, horned cattle driver! Now I am both, I have horns and I ride a bull!”

But an angry Selene sends a fly to torment the animal which, in its leaps, throws Ampelos to the ground and tramples him to death. The myth of Ampelos was not known in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, it was only "rediscovered" in Europe in the 17th century. The image of Ampelos will appear in several literary works and in particular sources of inspiration for the French homosexual writer André Gide.

Dionysus and Ampelos, 1548/50,Pierino da Vinci, 1530/1553

Bacchus and Ampelos, Francesco Righetti, 1782

NB/ The Greeks name the god of wine and the vine Dionisos, when the Romans call him Bacchus…

Dionysos marble, Ludovisi collection, Capitoline Museums, Rome

Drunken Bacchus supported by Ampelos, Rijksmuseum van Oudheden in Leiden - Roman variant, of a lost Hellenistic original, not earlier than the beginning of the 3rd century BC.

Bacchus and Eros, 2nd century, Roman copy of a Greek work. National Archaeological Museum of Naples.

Formerly in the collection of Palazzo Corsini, Florence, marble group from the Roman period, 3rd century AD, Pan on the shoulders of Bacchus, a Satyr and a small Cupid

[tsarinatorment]

Riordanverse: Gods and Mortals and Nicknames

So I wrote this in response to another post but it was kinda tangential so I’m gonna just slap it down as its own thing, too.  Very rough and ready because I’m tired and have no free time at the moment, but if people are interested (and I can find time), I can absolutely try and tidy this up at some point!  I believe it was @fearlessinger I originally breached this topic with some time back in the toa discord but there were probably a few others lurking as well...

But anyway: Gods and Mortals and Nicknames!

Specifically, the way that the gods never canonically shorten each other’s names, or use anything less than a full name (barring Dionysus’ chronic inability to say most demigods’ names correctly) to refer to each other and the demigods (with one glaring exception which I’ll get onto in a sec).

It almost reads as though there’s an etiquette there, that using their full name is a mark of respect - that you acknowledge their power and you’re not belittling it by bestowing some sort of pet name/nickname - and it’s interesting to me that they keep that up with the demigods (who we know they envy, thanks to Apollo dropping that little truth in his narration, and are of course the major source of their own worship and therefore power in the modern day).  A key example here, and the one that contradicts fanon the most, is the fact that Apollo never, ever, calls Artemis anything other than “Artemis” or some variant of “sister” (titles being the alternative to using a full name, eg. “father” when they’re not trying to get Zeus’ attention!).  There is no Arty or any other typical shortening one might expect from a twin.

That’s completely different to how a lot of (Western, I’m British and that’s the culture I can speak for; I won’t make assumptions on others) mortals view names; nicknames/pet names are very common when you’re close with someone and like someone. And we see it with several of the main characters:

Percy, of course, is the prime example.  We all know it’s short for Perseus and we all know that Percy never, ever, goes by Perseus.  He doesn’t like it when people call him that (and maybe that’s because it sounds a bit pretentious, or because Perseus is too much the shadow of his predecessor rather than him), and the only time people call him that is gods or monsters, or when he’s in trouble/people are intentionally trying to rile him.

Nico is another one, and one I didn’t realise about at all until THO, when Apollo refers to him as Nicholas.  Honestly, I thought Nico was his full name until then, but I’ve been informed by someone with a far greater understanding of Italian names than I that Nicholas makes more sense as his full name than Nico, so there we have it.

Meg, leaning into TOA because that’s where this is going to go, is a third; she refuses to be called Margaret under any circumstances and if she got her way, no-one would even know Meg wasn’t her full name.

Will isn’t a main character (much to my ongoing disappointment), but we got canon confirmation that his full name is William, and yet it’s never used except when people close to him do that good old Full Naming Thing when they’re fake-mad.

Which leads me off to my point about names and etiquette and Apollo, our god who loves humanity and quite frankly, understands and respects humanity better than the rest of the gods (and yes, even pre-TOA but I’m not getting into that rn) so it makes sense that he might be willing to switch which etiquette he’s using depending on if he’s talking with/about mortals rather than gods.

Because Apollo calls Percy “Perseus”… but only sometimes, when he’s being a bit of a little shit because especially at the start of TOA, Apollo was really laying that facade on thick, lbr.  Otherwise, unlike literally every other god, he calls him Percy - Percy’s preferred name.  With Nico, Nico told him “it’s Nico”, and Apollo immediately switched to that, his preferred name, without hesitation.  Meg, when asked, did give her full name but also made it clear that she hates it, and Apollo never used it.

And of course, there’s Will, Apollo’s beloved son, who he calls Will right from the start of THO, completely bucking the trend of full names unless requested otherwise, and being a lovely beacon of “Apollo and Will had enough interactions pre-BOO for Apollo to know Will’s preferred form of address and default to it when he’s mortal and half-conscious and very groggy to the point he barely recognises his own son - yet still uses his preferred name and not his full name”.

Dionysus, as mentioned earlier, can also buck the trend, but it seems to be much rarer, and with good reason - unlike Apollo, who gladly gets attached to mortals over and over and over again, he doesn’t want to get attached, so he distances himself with fake names most of the time (but uses full names when he does use them… except with Nico and Will, who are the only two demigods I can think of off the top of my head that Dionysus refers to by name (and nickname, no less) in every appearance he has with them.  With Nico, I assume this is because of the therapy sessions and the way that he’s chosen to get close to him for some reason.  Slightly less clear with Will, but considering it was from Apollo’s pov and therefore Apollo was there, I am fond of (and amused by) the idea that Dionysus knows better than to mess up Apollo’s kids names when his brother is there and will go all papa bear on him for getting it wrong.  Maybe he calls him other names when Apollo isn’t in earshot, who knows…

[mask131]

The myth of Dionysos (2)

If you haven't checked the first post, this is a vague translation of an article originally written in French by Alain Moreau for the Dictionary of Literary Myths. Its subject is the identity and depiction of Dionysos/Dionysus in Antiquity.

III) The shapeshifting god

A god with such elusive origins, and such an ability to easily cross the limit between life and death, will of course be difficult to depict visually. Ancient sculptors had selected three main appearances for Dionysos: as a child, held within the arms of Hermes or of a satyr ; as a large, imposing bearded man (this was his usual depiction during the Archaic era), or as an effeminate teenager with shoulder-length curly hair and graceful, sensual gestures (this appearance became the dominant one from the 4th century onward). When it comes to prayers and hymns to Dionysos, he receives many names: Bakchos, Bakcheus, Iakchos, Sabazios, Bromios, Zagreus… G. Wentzel collected more than a hundred and thirty name variants for the god.

But how can one describe a god who spends his days transformed or under a disguise? Before the giant Rhetos, he is a lion (Horace, Odes, II, 19) ; when he flees from Typhon he is a male goat (Antoninus Liberalius, Metamorphoses, 28 ; Ovid, Metamorphoses, V) ; at Nysa he is a baby goat (Apollodorus, III) ; before the terrified Tyrrhenian pirates of the Homeric hymn he becomes a lion and a bear ; for Pentheus he was a bull and a ghost ; for the Minyades he was a bull, a panther and a lion (Antoninus Liberalis, Metamorphoses, 10). Dionysos keeps shapeshifting, becoming a ghost, becoming a reflection or creating doubles of himself – and in this sense, the mirror that the Titans offered to the child they were about to kill becomes a very important symbol. In the “Bacchants”, the audience slowly sees Pentheus transformed into a tragic double of Dionysos: both are young, beardless and with beautiful blond hair. However in the beginning of the play, those similarities only highlight the differences. Dionysos is effeminate and his long curls flow over his shoulders, while Pentheus’ hair is braided and wrapped around his head – as Jeanne Roux notes, it was the typical hairdo of aristocrats that regularly practiced sports and wrestling. The virile king of Thebes disdains the foreigner because he has perfume in his hair, Aphrodite’s charm in his eyes, and something feminine in his appearance. But to better destroy Pentheus, Dionysos will turn him into a copy of himself. To spy on the Bacchants, Pentheus will put on a woman’s dress, unbraid his hair, cover himself with a fawn’s skin and hold a thyrsus. (Here the author notes that the translator of the Belles Lettres edition of the play made a mistake by writing that Pentheus put on a “wig” as part of his disguise – no, he actually simply unbraids his hair). With this new appearance, and soon succumbing to the delirium, Pentheus imagines himself cradled within the arms of his mother, just like young Dionysos disguised as a girl was cradled by his foster mother Ino. But by identifying with the god, Pentheus marks his own destruction: the “agreus” of the verse 1192 reminds us of “Zagreus”. Pentheus will live the fate of Dionysos-Zagreus: killed and dismembered, but without the resurrection. Supreme though futile identification: Agave holding the head of her son believes she is brandishing the corpse of a lion… the lion being one of Dionysos’ favorite transformations. When playing double, Dionysos always win.

IV) A complex personality

In his childhood, Dionysos is presented as a frail and defenseless being. He flees in terror the hatred of Hera and Lycurgus ; he naively falls into the trap of the Titans. However, once he is an adult, it is him who entraps those that refuse to recognize his divine power, and he takes his revenge with an horrifying cruelty. The Minyades are plunged into a sacred madness and rip to pieces Hippasos, one of their sons, while believing him to be a young fawn. Pentheus falls from the top of a pine-tree and is ripped apart by the Bacchantes, among which are his aunts, and his own mother Agave. As for Lycurgus, poets and mythologists are constant rivals in the game of who will describe the most atrocious torment. In Eschilus’ Lycurgy, Dionysos turns him mad and he kills his son Dryas with an axe, believing him to be a vine. According to Hyginus, Lycurgus also kills his wife and tries to rape his mother, before Dionysos abandons him at the top of a mountain where he is mauled by panthers. According to Homer, Zeus makes the king blind, while in Apollodorus’ tale he is tied up to the mount Pangaion and devoured by horses. And for Diodorus of Sicily, he had his eyes pierced by Dionysos, before a long series of tortures culminating with a crucifixion.

However this bloodthirsty god of tragedies can easily become a god of comical fables, or of fairytales. It is Dionysos that brought back Hephaistos to Olympus so he could deliver Hera from the magical throne he had trapped her in – to do so, Dionysos made the smith-god drunk, placed him on the back of a donkey and dragged him in such a parade to the realm of the gods (this was a frequent motif of Ancient Greek art). The donkey is strongly associated with the parades of Dionysos: either it is the ride of the god himself, either it is the ride of big-bellied Silenus, so heavy the beast clearly has troubles carrying him. The donkey is an ithyphallic animal: sometimes, baskets are depicted hanging from his phallus, or Silenus is depicted trying to rape it. This is all within the context of grotesque pranks and caricatural jokes – a carnival. This carnival-nature of Dionysos explains why he appears, with frequent mentions of his donkeys, within Aristophanes’ comedy “The Frogs”, where he is depicted as a farting and cowardly buffoon.

But the jester can become a lover. Dionysos is the lover of Ariadne. According to the most ancient versions, they were united by a “hieros gamos”, a sacred wedding – Ariadne being an ancient goddess of vegetation. In more recent tales, the hero Theseus becomes the third part of a love triangle – and Dionysos either recomforts Ariadne at Naxos after she was abandoned by Theseus (Catullus wrote a beautiful poem on this subject), either is neglected by Ariadne and out of jealousy uses the arrows of Artemis to kill his unfaithful companion (Odyssey, XI).

But even in his loves, Dionysos stays elusive. A curious tale, most developed by Clement of Alexandria in his Protrepticus (II), transforms the heterosexual lover of Ariadne into the homosexual lover of Prosumnos. And this is the result of a bargain: if Prosumnos gives Dionysos the means to go into the Underworld, the young god promises to become his “eromenos” (teenage lover) – but when Dionysos comes back from the Hades, Prosumnos is dead. So, going to his grave, he cuts a fig-tree branch, sculpts it in the shape of a phallus, and uses it to “fulfill his promise to the dead”. And according to Clement of Alexandria, it is in honor of this legendary episode that in some cities there are parades of phalluses organized in honor of Dionysos.

Naïve child and manipulative adult, a god as cruel as buffoonish, heterosexual and homosexual, Dionysos’ personality is just as multi-faceted and impossible to simplify as his physical appearance.

[briarandhissecretgarden]

Drowned Thoughts

Hello!!! Here's the Drowned discussion post I was talking about before the small break, I have a few things to touch on and a new character to show off!!

Drowned in my canon can be separated into two groups, those that are the drowned people, and those that are the undead. Drowned are a complicated case because we all understand the Drowned in MC are zombies that spawn or are converted to living in the water and of course that happens in my world too!! I wouldn't deny an interesting feature like that!! I imagine water has a lot of magic within it and since its used for potions and such, a lot of magical waste from failed potion attempts or large brewing sessions culminated as pollution in some areas. Even then, I just feel like zombies are susceptible to magic and transformations especially, having a Husk variant as well. Very adaptable species.

However, I have a species of the Drowned that are people who lost their civilization to the ocean many many years ago, more so something like Atlantis, except not hidden. Their world was changed and as a result of Years of evolution, they had transformed into a water dwelling society!! Drowned are able to walk on land as they retain their legs, they are able to breathe air as they are mammals still, having both gills and lungs (though they are under developed). Drowned live primarily in undersea ruins both warm and cold ocean variants. There are differences in their cultures obviously, but they are the same species.

Drowned can form relationships and have children with other mobs as well!! This is shown through Dionysus' friend, Aries!! Who's father was a Witch and mother a Drowned.

Here's a design of her, very sketchy but the overall idea of color palette, features (aside from facial) and clothes concepts are very much that of the Warm Ocean variant drowned. Darker skin, more green hued skin, glowing/bio luminescent features as well as smaller clothes and more flowing options with gold accents!

Cold Water drowned have a more obvious lighter shade and more bluish tint to their skin along with having more wraps and such covering their bodies, they typically have more bio luminescent features and dark colored scleras!! They typically also have yellow teeth :0)

That's all I have, I'm hoping to talk more abt Aries if people are interested and to eventually make a design of a cold ocean drowned fellow :0)!!!

[hireathmae]

MBTI: ESFP | ISFP | ESTP | ISTP | ESTJ | ISTJ | ESFJ | ISFJ | ENFJ | INFJ | ENFP | INFP | ENTP | INTP | ENTJ | INTJ

Enneagram: The reformer (type 1) | The helper (type 2) | The achiever (type 3) | The individualist (type 4) | The thinker (type 5) | The loyalist (type 6) | The enthusiast (type 7) | The leader (type 8)

Tritype: 125 | 126 | 127 | 135 | 136 | 137 | 145 | 146 | 147 | 358 | 825 | 826 | 827 | 835 | 836 | 837 | 845 | 846 | 847 | 925 | 926 | 927 | 935 | 936 | 937 | 945 | 946 | 947

Instinctual variant: sp/so | sp/sx | so/sp I so/sx I sx/sp | sx/so

Zodiac sign: Aries | Gemini | Taurus | Cancer | Leo | Virgo | Libra | Scorpio | Sagittarius | Capricorn | Aquarius | Pisces |

Life path number: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 11 | 22 | 33

Four Temperaments: Sanguine | Melancholic | Choleric | Phlegmatic

Aura color: Red | Orange | Magenta | Yellow | Logical tan | Environmental tan | Sensitive tan | Abstract tan | Green | Blue | Violet | Crystal | Lavender | Indigo |

Alignment: Lawful good | Neutral good | Chaotic good | Lawful neutral | True neutral | Chaotic neutral | Lawful evil | Neutral evil | Chaotic evil

Hogwarts house: Gryffindor | Hufflepuff | Ravenclaw | Slytherin

Godly parent: Zeus | Hera | Poseidon | Demeter | Ares | Athena | Apollo | Artemis | Hephaestus | Aphrodite | Hermes | Dionysus | Hades | Irus | Hypnos | Nemesis | Nike | Hebe | Tyche | Hecate

Love languages: Acts of service | Quality time | Words of affiliation | Gift giving | Touch

Multiple intelligence test: Kinaesthetic | Linguistic | Logical | Interpersonal | Intrapersonal | Musical | Visual/Spatial | Naturalistic

R-Drive personality test: Narcissism | Unconventionality | Empiricism | Vitality | Othercentricism | Independence | Integrity | Intellect | Stoicism | Orderliness | Dynamism | Activity | Romanticism | Hedonism

Defense mechanism: Regression | Displacement | Denial | Repression | Intellectualization | Reaction formation | Projection | Compensation

Celtic zodiac: Birch (The Achiever) | Rowan (The Thinker) | Ash (The Enchanter) I Alder (The Trailblazer) | Willow (The Observer) | Hawthrone (The Illusionist) | Oak (The Stabilizer) | Holly (The Ruler) I Hazel (The Knower) | Vine (The Equalizer) I Ivy (The Survivor) | Reed (The Inquisitor) | Elder (The Seeker)

Celtic zodiac: Stag/Deer | Cat I Cow/Bull | Black horse I Butterfly | Adder/Snake | Seahorse | Fish/Salmon | Wolf/Hound | Fox | Wren | Swan | Falcon/Hawk

The animal in you: Lion I Tiger | Dolphin | Bear | Wild | Cat | Fox | Weasel | Badger | Dog | Otter | Wolf | Sea Lion I Wild Dog | Walrus | Gorilla | Deer | Rhinoceros I Hippo | Sable | Horse | Sheep | Mountain Goat |Warthog | Zebra Baboon | Elephant | Bison | Giraffe | Cottontail | Mole | Bat | Porcupine | Beaver | Prairie Dog | Shrew | Mouse | Eagle | Rooster Owl | Swan | Peacock | Vulture | Penguin | Crocodile | Snake l

DISC profile: D | I | S | C

Soul Type (one test): Hunter | Caregiver | Creator I Thinker | Helper | Educator | Performer| Leader I Spiritualist

[7] Soul Types: Server | Artisan | Warrior | Scholar | Sage | Priest | King

Deadly Sin: Wrath I Envy | Gluttony | Greed | Sloth I Lust Pride

Archetypes: Creative | Athlete | Rebel I Caregiver | Visionary | Royal | Performer | Spiritual | Tastemaker | Explorer | Advocate Intellectual

Brain lateralization: Left | Right | Both

Cerebral Personality Test: 1-10% | 11-20% | 21-30% | 31-40% | 41-50% | 51-60% | 61-70% | 71-80% | 81-90% | 91-100% /

Nerdy Personality Attribute Scale: 30 | 40 | 50 | 60 I 70

Empathy Quotient Test: 0| 10 | 20 | 30| 40 | 50 | 60 | 70 | 80 |

Helen Fisher's Personality Test: Explorer | Builder I Director | Negotiator

MOTIV: Materialistic | Offbeat I Thinking | Interpersonal | Vital | Easygoing

Holland Code: Realistic | Investigative | Artistic |Social | Enterprising | ConventionalI

Dark Triad Test: Narcissism | Machiavellianism Psychopathy l

Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale (Primary Psychopathy): 1 | 1.5 |2 | 2.5 | 3 | 3.5 | 4 | 4.5 | 5 |

Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale (Secondary Psychopathy): 1 | 1.5 | 2 | 2.5 | 3 | 3.5 |4 | 4.5 | 5

Artistic Preference Test: Realistic | Linear | Painterly I Abstract | Masculine | Feminine I

The big five: RLUEI | SLUEI | RCOEI | RLOIA | RLOEI | RCOIA | SLUAI | RLUAI | SCOEI | SCOIA | RLUEN | RCUEI | RCUAI | SCUEN | SLOAI | SLOEN | SLOEI | SCUEI | RCUEN | RLOEN | SCUAN | SLUEN | SCOEN | SCUAI | RLUAN | RLOAN | RCOAN | RCOEN | SCOAN | RCUAN | SLUAN | SLOAN

Attitudinal psych: LVFE (the conductor) | VLEF (the inquisitor) | ELFV (the chronicler) | LEVF (the visionary) | LVEF (the deviser) | ELVF (the dramatist) | LFVE (the consultant) | EFLV (the satirist) | FEVL (the impressionist) | FVEL (the flourisher) | FELV (the moodmaker) | FLEV (the alchemist) | LEFV (the daydreamer) | VELF (the harbinger) | VFLE (the firestarter) | EVFL (the enthusiast) | VEFL (the orchestrator) | VLFE (the pathfinder) | FVLE (the patron) | VFEL (the arbiter) | FLVE (the blacksmith) | EVLF (the catalyst) | EFVL (the adorner) | LFEV (the connoisseur)

In conclusion: Therapy isn’t doing shit.

[sarafangirlart]

what do you think of angelos

She’s supposed to be a variant of Hecate but I chose to merge her with Pasithea. Basically instead of giving Europa Hera’s anointments, Pasithea helps Dionysus one way or another (which is why mortals started to view them as father and daughter when they’re just siblings) which angers Hera, so then Pasithea hides in the underworld and meets Hypnos for the first time and they fall in love.

It’s so weird how the Dionysiaca tells us that Pasithea is Hera AND Dionysus’s daughter, sometimes even in the same book it’s so weird. It’s likely that Nonnus was just working with two different traditions but didn’t bother to be consistent rather than trying to imply that Hera and Dionysus hooked up for some reason.

[deathlessathanasia]

„There is another significant detail in Kleitias' painting. As Dionysus and the mule bearing Hephaestus approach Olympus, attended by a company of Silenoi and nymphs, the first to meet them is not Hera or Zeus but Aphrodite, who makes gestures of dismay. Robert inferred that in the version followed by the artist she had perhaps been promised to Hephaestus as payment for releasing his mother. Wilamowitz developed the idea: Aphrodite, he supposed, had been promised to Ares if he succeeded in his mission, but in the event it was Hephaestus who got her. This would be the background to the situation in Demodocus' tale, where she is married to Hephaestus but has Ares as her lover. … Timothy Gantz allows that Wilamowitz's theory 'would certainly explain a very unusual marriage', but points out that it 'creates … an awkward imbalance of logic', because if Aphrodite had been promised to Ares as the reward for bringing Hephaestus back, she ought then to have been given to Dionysus, who succeeded in the task. 'We might better suppose that Zeus authorized Dionysos to promise Aphrodite's hand if Hephaistos came back; thus, at the mere sight of Hephaistos returning, the goddess knows she is lost.'21 A similar compromise solution might be that Hera promised Aphrodite to whoever could induce Hephaestus to release her,22 and that Dionysus, having obtained her as his reward, then bestowed her on his new friend Hephaestus.” (M. L. West, The Fragmentary Homeric Hymn to Dionysus)

„At the center of the composition [on the François Vase], however, is a surprise: Aphrodite has come out to stand in front of Zeus and observe the arrival [of Hephaistos] firsthand. Possibly her special interest in the event stems from the assumption that Hephaistos is here, as in Odyssey 8, her husband, in which case her look probably denotes disappointment at his return. But it has also been suggested that Hephaistos has demanded her hand in marriage (rather than, as in Hyginus, that of Athena) if he is to release his mother. This last interpretation has, unfortunately, no evidence whatever from antiquity to support it…” (Timothy Gantz, Early Greek Myth: A Guide to Literary and Artistic Sources)

TL;DR: All the supposed „versions” people bring up when discussing how Aphrodite ended up married to Hephaistos in the context of the story of his revenge on Hera are conjectures made by modern scholars rather than being attested in any ancient Greek sources. We simply don't know anything substantial about that detail of the myth, full stop, and it's time people accept that instead of arguing about which variant is more correct.

[witchthewriter]

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐃𝐚𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐃𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐲𝐬𝐮𝐬/𝐁𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐡𝐮𝐬

Now these women are a range of personalities but the one thing they all have in common: they chase a form of escapism. Whether it's through drugs, drinking, partying, daydreaming - oh and confidence. The variants and daughters of Dionysus/Bacchus are confident. That's how you can spot them. Even if it isn't 'true' confidence, these women will fake it til they make it.

They're also very magnetic; people want to be around them. Whether it's because they find these women interesting, funny, unique etc. They just can't help but want to be around them.

𝑉𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑦𝑟𝑖𝑒/𝐵𝑟𝑢𝑛𝑛𝘩𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑒

𝐷𝑎𝑖𝑠𝑦 𝐵𝑢𝑐𝘩𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑛

𝐹𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑏𝑎𝑔

𝐺𝑖𝑛𝑎 𝐿𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑖

𝐻𝑎𝑟𝑙𝑒𝑦 𝑄𝑢𝑖𝑛𝑛

𝐶𝘩𝑒𝑟 𝐻𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑡𝑧

𝑅𝑢𝑒 𝐵𝑒𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑡𝑡

𝐻𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝐺𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑔𝘩𝑡𝑙𝑦

𝐴𝑙𝑒𝑥𝑖𝑠 𝑅𝑜𝑠𝑒

[darksilvania]

Kroelian SLOWPOKE, SLOWBRO & SLOWKING

They are based on Dionysus, the greek god of god of the grape-harvest, winemaking, orchards and fruit, vegetation, fertility, insanity, ritual madness, religious ecstasy, festivity, and theatre

Kroelian SLOWPOKE (Grass/Water) is able to grow a special type of berry from its tail, that can be used to make a very potent wine, the berry alone is strong enough to get you drunk, and SLOWPOKE is often seen eating its own berries, leaving him in a constant state of intoxication. Kroelian SLOWBRO (Grass/Water) After evolving into its large shell, SLOWBRO's tail begin to grow rapidly, completely filling the shell with vines and fruits.SLOWBRO can be seen often eating this fruit, resting on its own bed of leaves and vines in a state of blisfull drunkness

Kroelian SLOWBRO is based on the Cornucopia,  also called the horn of plenty, a greek symbol of abundance and nourishment

Both SLOWBRO & SLOWPOKE have the abilities Harvester and Rippen

Kroelian SLOWKING (Grass/Fairy) It travels around dancing and singing with drunken glee, its presence alone makes trees and orchards to grow fruits and the fields to grow crop and with a wave of its tail, flowers bloom all around. The shell on its head has broken in two, the piece still on its head now resembles a crown, while the tip of the shell has become a drinking horn the its always full with wine, a single sip of this wine is enough to get grown man drunk.

SLOWKING's tail is meant to resemble the Thyrsus, Dionysus sacred staff, a symbol of prosperity, fertility, and hedonism, the petals around its neck are meant to represent the panther skin that Dionysus usually was represented wearing and the Shell resembles the drinking cup that he was often seeing carrying.

SLOWKING has the abilities Grassy Surge and Poison Heal

[mydarlingdearestdead]

I need a marauders Percy Jackson AU with these godly parents-

Sirius- Dionysus

James- Apollo

Peter and Barty- Hermes

Remus and Lily- Athena

Regulus- Hades

Evan and Mary- Aphrodite

Marlene and Frank - Nike

Snape- Nemesis

Emmeline- Hestia (not child. Like favourite or something)

Dorcas and Sybill- Hecate

Alice- Ares

More stuff-

-Remus would be a special favourite of Selene, since she is a virgin goddess and has no children of her own

-Sirius and Regulus only share a mortal parent (walburga probably rather than Orion)

-Dionysus as camp director ignores every word Sirius says simply because he can

-Pandora is the oracle (so like Rachel basically)

-Genderfluid Sirius. I will have it no other way.

-I also want non-binary Pandora and trans Reg + Emmeline

-wolfstar, starchaser, pandalily, Emmary, Dorlene, rosekiller, potentially Peter and Sybill, nobleflower maybe or quillkiller

-the black family is like the chase family in like how they attract gods or whatever

- Minnie = Chiron (not as a centaur but like she could pull it off)

- Bipolar James HC has my whole heart so that must be included

-starchaser are such fierrochase and solangelo variants

[oz-posts]

Hera nickname possibilities part 2

Still focusing on Aimsey sorry, I have decided to delay the Guqqie one until we know what the hell is going on with A! Guqqie.

So... Some stuff happened, and it caused me to rethink several of the names and the importance of some themes, so here are a few I think things have changed for.

Required traits

Knowledge(curiosity as a fatal flaw preferably)- this is difficult, because it's actually surprisingly rare in myths, and often in different contexts as to what we're after.

Violence- this is self explanatory and fortunately very common in myths (in fact in even gcse level Greek and Latin there are at least 7 words for kill/die)

Space association- preferably with the moon, but that's a bit specific, and as most nicknames for Aimsey variants are masculine a bit difficult with Artemis/Diana's whole mainly female hunter group

Asterion

I still quite like this one, though for different reasons.

As I mentioned last time, Asterion is the Minotaur's birth name giving him an obvious link to violence, and as the stepson of king Minos he would have been a prince. There is also perhaps a knowledge connection with the labyrinth, although that one is perhaps a bit of a stretch. Also as the most popular translation of Asterion is literally " little star we have a convenient space connection as well.

Similarly, many people ( even in ancient Greece) felt that the Minotaur may have started off innocent but was warped by his father's rage and his imprisonment in the labyrinth. Which could perhaps mirror how little control A! Aimsey seems to have even in their own curiosity, which instead of reclaiming their own past and fate appears to be amounting to little more than a desperate grab for understanding and control.

Penthius

I hate Penthius.

He is such a a fucking perverted tyrannical foolish asshole and he deserved every bit of what he got " slave to my slaves" (δουλεύοντα δουλείαις ἐμαῖς) Penthius dear those are your people, as king caring for them is your duty you little shit.

But anyways

Firstly, as the main - mortal- character in the bachea he is part of a literal tragedy and we all know these idiots are doomed in every universe so unless they feel like being nice to us for once that's perfect.

If you don't know the story of the bachea I shall leave a summary of the plot at the bottom.

Despite Penthius's overall shittyness the themes fit perfectly. Firstly, as the cousin of Acteon he has a lovely little link with the moon - a very negative one, Artemis killed him, but so what- and with his constant war-mongering with violence as well. He is also royalty, and if you reinterpret his all around pervyness as curiosity that fits too.

He sought knowledge, and it killed him

Narcissus

This is a bit of a stretch here and I know it, but doesn't it just seem like the perfect, very derisive nickname for an alternate universe version of your ex who stabbed you?

Firstly, oh my God the knowledge association, Narcissus was cursed to die when he truly " knew himself" (A! Aimsey's urge to find out what happened to them?) and let's be honest that's probably the best case scenario for our lovely prince. He was literally killed by knowing too much, in this case about himself. Also, as much as we go on and on about the whole " narcissus rejected echo and she died because of his selfishness boo hoo!" Their deaths were very similar, if anything being simply an extension of the cycle of suffering cause by Zeus fucking around and someone else finding out. Oooh cycles... Could be parallel with A!Aimsey following in Tud's footsteps perhaps.

Again a bit of a stretch but I still kinda like it.

Bachea summary

First Dionysus arrives in Thebes and asks everybody to accept and worship him. Nearly everybody is fine with this but the king- Penthius- objects and refuses to believe in his godly power. In response, Dionysus mind controls all of the women of Thebes and they run off to the mountains and literally just sit there, not being a problem or anything.

Dionysus comes to talk to Penthius who tries repeatedly to threaten and insult the completely calm Dionysus. And reveals his preoccupation with sex and completely unfounded belief that the women are having a giant orgy on the mountain.

Penthius decides to attack the women but Dionysus "convinces" him otherwise ( oh look it's our good friend mind control again ) using his desire to be a voyeur to the non-existent mountain orgy. Dionysus then dresses Penthius for slaughter and parades him to the mountain where he is torn apart by his family.

Yay! I love happy endings.

[wineworshipped]

The Laughing God

His name is Dionysus. Liber, Bromius, Bacchus too, yes, but always Dionysus first and foremost. God of wine, fertility, excess, ecstasy, theatre, release, rebirth, madness, and the wild joys of total liberation. The original uninhibited god, born of mortal Semele and immortal Zeus, aegis-bearer, twice-born and full of mirth. The dithyramb is beat in his honor; maneads and bacchants dance in the wild wood for his pleasures. Such is the glory of great Dionysus, madcap lord of the midnight revels.

—Well. Such was the glory of Dionysus, lord of the torches. It’s Dio nowdays. Dio Theoinos among the mortal crowds, hot-shot producer/director and King of the Great White Way. (Dɪᴏɴysᴜs is awfully stiff and old-timey, don’t you think? Something a little catchier was in order for the new age.) Unseated from Olympus like the rest of his family when the new deities came into power, he’s done pretty well for himself since; he has a big media following, a handful of accidental cults, a few modern maneads—nothing spectacular, but certainly enough to get by on. A bit of prayer here and there, a few starving artists looking for a bit of luck, and bam!, he’s back in business. Maybe not running at full capacity, but not exactly putzing around on empty.

Dio is about what you’d expect of him; formerly a blinding force of joy and freedom, he still upholds the right to artistic expression and creativity…it just comes a little more tempered at his advanced age and decreased popularity. He is often surly and unamused, feeling usurped, and while quick to offense, he is equally quick to forgive. Dionysus is a fickle god at best. Sassy, snarky, witty, and sharp-tongued, Dio spends much of his time among the mortal rabble, and has picked up a few of their habits; but being immortal, he tries not to get too attached.

name: Dio(nysus), Bacchus, Bromius, Liber, Cisseus

alias: Dio Theoinos (usually)

pronouns: he/him (usually)

pantheon: Greek, Roman

familial status: Youngest of the Olympians (two uncles, one father, the Bitch, two aunts, two sisters, a sister-aunt-why are you trying to dissect ancient myth here?, two brothers—it’s actually quite a lot.)

age: Immortal

residence: New York City, New York; Los Angeles, California; Naxos, Greece; Olympus; wherever story demands

martial status: Widowed* Single

orientation: a bisexual disaster

face: Alan Cumming (Dio & most variants)

build: Svelt

height: 5’10” (sometimes up to 6′8″ For Dramatic Effect™️)

hair: Changes with the day. He prefers keeping dark hair or going “distinguished” grey.

eyes: Merlot. (It’s a wine thing.)

postive: philanthropic (…well, to a greater degree than the rest of his family), creative, artistic, loyal, individualistic, (relatively) open-minded, readily accepting, etc.

negative: arrogant, conceited, self-important, self-righteous, pompous, egotistical, narcissistic, fickle, non-committal…the list goes on.

*According to myth, Dionysus married the mortal woman Ariadne of Crete…but, unable to bear the grief of separation from her love, Theseus of Athens, she died. Or ascended to heaven. The story’s a little split on that one. Dio…doesn’t like thinking of himself as “widowed”.

myers-briggs

ENFP: The Campaigner.

extraverted, intuitive, feeling, prospecting, turbulent

Strengths: curious, observant, energetic & enthusiastic, excellent communicator, knows how to relax, very popular & friendly

Weaknesses: poor practical skills, difficulty focusing, overthinks things, gets stressed easily, highly emotional, independent to a fault

moral alignment

Chaotic Good: “The Rebel”

combines a good heart with a free spirit

[sonicshipbattles]

Round One Match-ups

If you've followed this blog since the Sonic Tournament, you'll know that I struggle to make a graphic for 64 ship tournaments, so enjoy this image of Cupid Robotnik instead Below are the matches for Round One, arranged as they would appear on the grid and followed by some notes about what's been put where and why. There will be an image for Round Two, I promise

Round One will be posted in four lots of 8 polls that will run for a single day. The first 8 will be posted today at around 10pm GMT

TOP LEFT:

Dr. Robotnik/Agent Stone vs Dr. Robotnik/Wes Weasely Dr. Eggman/Me, the person running this blog vs Dr. Eggman/You, the person reading this post Dr. Eggman/Black Doom vs Dr. Eggman/Zavok Dr. Eggman/Dionysus (Hades Game) vs Dr. Eggman/Leon (Pokemon) Dr. Eggman/Great Battle Kukku vs Dr. Eggman/Lyric Dr. Eggman/Thunderbolt vs Dr. Eggman/Metarex Dr. Eggman/Vector vs Dr. Robotnik/Aleena Mr. Tinker/Dr. Starline vs Mr. Tinker/Elder Scruffy

BOTTOM LEFT:

Dr. Eggman/Dr. Wily vs Dr. Eggman/Inspector Gadget Dr. Eggman/himself (General) vs Dr. Eggman/theme parks Dr. Eggman/Clutch vs Dr. Eggman/Mimic Dr. Eggman (Classic)/Dr. Eggman (Modern) vs Dr. Eggman/Dr. Kintobor (Moebius) Dr. Eggman/Locke vs Dr. Eggman/Wendy Naugus Dr. Eggman/Lord Boxman (OK KO) vs Dr. Eggman/The Once-ler Dr. Eggman/The President (Games) vs Dr. Eggman/The President (OVA) Dr. Robotnik/Lucas vs Dr. Robotnik/Lucinda

TOP RIGHT:

Dr. Eggman/Dr. Starline vs Dr. Eggman/Sera Dr. Eggman/an egg vs Dr. Eggman/Dr. Eggman's Incredible Interstellar Amusement Park Dr. Eggman (Boom)/anon vs Dr. Eggman/Martha (Snapcube) Dr. Eggman/Dr. Doofenshmirtz vs Dr. Eggman/Humpty Dumpty (Puss in Boots) Dr. Eggman/Dr. Robotnik (AoStH) vs Dr. Eggman/Zobotnik Dr. Eggman/The Conductor vs Dr. Robotnik/Grimer Dr. Eggman/Uncle Chuck (Sonic X) vs Dr. Robotnik/Uncle Chuck (SatAM) Dr. Robotnik/Latte with steamed austrian goat milk vs Dr. Robotnik/The Mean Bean Machine

BOTTOM RIGHT:

Dr. Eggman/Bowser vs Dr. Eggman/Dr. Neo Cortex Dr. Eggman/no one vs Dr. Eggman/The Chaos Emeralds Dr. Eggman/Captain Whisker vs Dr. Kintobor (Fleetway)/Mr. Tinker Dr. Eggman/Dr. Starline/Thunderbolt vs Dr. Eggman/The Conductor/The Conductor's Wife Dr. Eggman/Ella vs Dr. Eggman/Witchcart Dr. Eggman/T.W. Barker vs Dr. Robotnik/Sleet Dr. Robotnik/Katella vs Dr. Robotnik/Robo Robotnik Dr. Eggman/King Candy vs Dr. Eggman/Satan (Puyo Puyo) vs Dr. Eggman/Rick Sanchez MATCH-UP NOTES:

As the ships that received the first and second most submissions, Robotnik/Agent Stone and Eggman/Starline have been placed on opposite sides of the grid to each other, in the top left and top right respectively. They have both been given easy first matches against a ship that received only one nomination Since we had four ships that tied for third place (Eggman/Bowser, Eggman/Wily, Eggman/himself (General) and Eggman/no one) that worked out nicely for organising them, so two each have been placed on the bottom left and bottom right sides of the grids. I broke it up so that each side would have one popular crossover and one non-ship Eggman ship - so Eggman/Wily and Eggman/himself have been placed on the bottm left and Eggman/Bowser and Eggman/no one have been placed on the bottom right We had a large amount of crossovers submitted, so unlike the Sonic tournament where they were grouped together, for this tournament the crossovers have been spread out across the whole grid Same goes for all the various Eggman/himself variants. There should be at least one on every corner of the grid Since most ships only received one or two submissions, the match-ups are more random this time. A few have been stuck together because I thought it'd be funny or they have a similar theme, but mostly they're random We have one single threeway poll in this tournament, which has been placed at the bottom of the grid. This is "Dr. Eggman/King Candy vs Dr. Eggman/Satan (Puyo Puyo) vs Dr. Eggman/Rick Sanchez" as they were all crossover ships that received a single nomination