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How many times has Jason Todd tried to murder Tim Drake?

Answer: Jason Todd has tried one (1) time to murder Tim Drake AND Damian Wayne. And it was not "The Titans Tower Incident".

Sections:

Attack I: Hush by Jeph Loeb

Attack II: Teen Titans (2003) #29 by Geoff Johns (AKA the "Titans Tower Incident")

Attack III: Battle for the Cowl by Tony Daniel

Hush

Did Jason try to murder Tim in Hush?

Batman #617 (writer: Jeph Loeb)

Jason cuts Tim's neck!

Batman #618 [writer: Jeph Loeb]

...Oh, wait, it actually isn't that bad.

Tim could use some non-urgent stitches, but he is still fully awake and walking on his own two feet. Batman sends Tim back to the Batcave unaccompanied, and tells him to continue working on their case.

♢ Verdict: Nah, Jason did not try to murder Tim in Hush. It wasn't theatrical and climactic enough.

(*Side note: Hush reveals that this Jason is supposedly just an impersonation by Clayface. But Batman Annual #25 later changes the lore so that the real Jason did initially appear here. After the part when the real Jason takes Tim hostage, Batman chases him through a dark and rainy graveyard—and the real Jason then takes the opportunity to switch out with Clayface as his body double. It's confusing, I know!)

Teen Titans (2003) #29

Did Jason try to murder Tim in Teen Titans (2003) #29? (Also known as "THE Titans Tower Incident", as opposed to all the other Titans Tower incidents in which Titans died and the Tower was destroyed.)

Teen Titans (2003) #29 [writer: Geoff Johns]

Jason beats up Tim with a bo staff and punches. No blades or guns involved. Tim blacks out. Tim later wakes up and gets to his feet when the other Titans come to help him.

Raven explains, "Jason was always aggressive. He was determined to one day be better than all of us. Especially Batman." This story confirms that Jason has always been an overcompensating jerkwad, and death didn't make him any nicer—he's bullying Tim in a jealous fit to prove he's better than him, and not out of murderous intent.

Teen Titans (2003) #47 [writer: Adam Beechen] - "The guy attacked all of us once just to prove he was better than me!"

Straight from Tim's own mouth—Jason infiltrated Titans Tower just to bully Tim, not to murder him.

♢ Verdict: Jason EXPLICITLY did NOT try to murder Tim in Teen Titans (2003) #29, also bafflingly known as "THE Titans Tower Incident". He didn't cut Tim's neck or use any bladed implements this time either.

Battle for the Cowl

(Everyone's favorite comic! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! Evil Batman time!)

Did Jason try to kill Tim in Batman: Battle for the Cowl?

Batman: Battle for the Cowl [writer: Tony S Daniel]

Jason shoots 10-year-old Damian in the chest, causing Damian to need eighty-nine stitches and a sizable blood transfusion to save his life.

Jason later stabs Tim in the chest, drags his "rotting corpse" into an alcove in his weird sewer creature lair, crucifies Tim's Batman suit on an honest-to-God actual cross, and brags about killing him to Dick.

But when Jason and Dick come unto the "tomb", they found the stone rolled away, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus, Tim's "body" had risen on the third day vanished.

Tim apparently only survived the blood loss due to some weird technique that allows him to slow his pulse to a near-death state.

♠ Verdict: YEAH, it sure looks like Jason did try to kill 17-year-old Tim AND 10-year-old Damian in Battle for the Cowl!

So remember—next time we bring up the time that Jason tried to kill poor Tim, we ALSO need to hold Jason accountable for trying to brutally murder a ten-year-old little boy and all the trauma that totally definitely caused.

Conclusion: Jason would ONLY try to kill Tim as a dramatic cliffhanger to end the second act of a limited event series in which Jason is the main villain.

Otherwise the production just wouldn't be theatrical enough.

See also: Robin tradition by @arabian-batboy

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Upcoming X-Men covers for July!

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Tony S. Daniel's Special Cover For Superman #800

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Tony S. Daniel selfie remake.

I remake the remake I remake in blender. When I first try to use blender

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This run is from issue #1 to issue #12

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Deathstroke Vol 3 #8 (Cover art by Tony S. Daniel)

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Edenwood #1

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Spider-Gwen by Tony S Daniel

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Jason Todd + Lazarus Pit side effects

Jason is not influenced by Lazarus Pit side effects for the main part of Red Hood: The Lost Days. His short-term side effects include "sociopathy" and flat affect.

Jason is (almost certainly) not influenced by Lazarus Pit side effects during his villainous stint in Under the Hood (2005-2006) and Under the Red Hood (2010 movie), Outsiders (2007), Green Arrow (2007), and other stories written by Judd Winick.

Jason is possibly influenced by Lazarus Pit madness in other stories not written by Judd Winick—including the Brothers in Blood arc, Teen Titans ("Titans Tower incident" as dubbed by the fandom), Robin, Batman and Robin…

Jason is influenced by Lazarus Pit side effects in Battle for the Cowl by Tony Daniel (2009), according to an interview with the writer.

The Lazarus Pit is a traumatic memory for Jason according to the Rebirth run of Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #3. The trauma seems to be a typical response to his disturbing and painful experience of resurrection, not a supernatural effect caused by the Lazarus Pit specifically.

Jason suffers from "Lazarus flashbacks" (implied to be hallucinations) in Injustice 2 (2017).

Jason never used a Lazarus Pit in Batman: Arkham Knight, Batman: The Adventures Continue, Batman: White Knight, and other stories.

Red Hood: The Lost Days # 2 (2010)

RA'S AL GHUL: "You are certain that the Pit has not driven him mad?!" TALIA: "It did not." RA'S AL GHUL: "Perhaps not tonight. Or even tomorrow. It could take weeks, months, decades!"

Red Hood: The Lost Days is a prequel covering Jason's life between waking up in his coffin and storming the Gotham underworld as the Red Hood. Winick takes the opportunity to establish Jason's sanity and willing transformation into a villain, while also planting the possibility of delayed-onset Lazarus Pit madness to explain Jason's volatile characterization under other writers after Under the Hood (2006).

(RHTLD also re-retcons Jason's natural hair color as black, after the 2009 Batman and Robin series briefly retconned him into a natural redhead.)

Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010)

JASON: "Oh, you got to talking to Ra's, huh? Does it make it easier for you to think that my little dip in his fountain of youth turned me rabid… Or is this just the real me?"

In the 2010 movie adaptation of the 2005-2006 Under the Hood comic, Jason mocks the assumption he's acting under the influence of the Lazarus Pit. While there isn't a 100% unambiguous confirmation as to whether that's the case, the context seems to dismiss any outside influence on Jason's actions.

"Behind Batman: Battle for the Cowl Part Two" - Dan Phillips interviews Tony Daniel (2009)

TONY DANIEL: "Jason was always a little bit more on the reckless, daring side, and he obviously has a screw loose after coming back from the Lazarus Pit. When you do come back from the Lazarus Pit, you're not one hundred percent right in the head, and Jason really wasn't all that right in the head to begin with."

According to this 2009 interview with IGN, Tony Daniel wrote Battle for the Cowl (2009) with the premise that Jason's mind has been corrupted by the Lazarus Pit.

Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #3

JASON: It's like [Bizarro is] coming to life right in front of us. ...And I know firsthand what that feels like. The Lazarus Pit. Not unlike this guy--I didn't have any say in what was happening to me. It might not be a popular thought--but not everyone wants to be alive. I remember that feeling--waking up... feeling like I was going to drown even as I was being reborn. Feeling like I had no right to come back to this world."

Jason is deeply disturbed and traumatized by his resurrection, but the Lazarus Pit itself doesn't seem to have tampered with his mind.

Injustice 2 (2017)

The powerful healing waters of the Lazarus Pit brought Jason Todd back to life. However, the power of the Pit comes at a cost, and a change takes hold in Jason.

RED HOOD (battling another Red Hood player): "I'm having another Lazarus flashback."

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Some awesome Marvel covers for June!

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Wonder Woman and Superman by Tony S Daniel

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In Batman (vol 3) 77# (cover date 2019) October, the Wayne Manor's faithful butler Alfred Pennyworth was murdered by Bane. ("City of Bane, Pt 3", Batman v3 77#, Comic, Event)

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Art Credit to Tony S Daniel