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It's always funny to me that Jason, Tim, and Damian all have personal beef with Ra's al Ghul and meanwhile, Dick is kinda just like

#dc#dc comics#batman#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood#tim drake#red robin#damian wayne#robin#ra's al ghul#okay but also correct me if I'm wrong#but like ra's seems to be at least somewhat involved/obsessed with all of them (even bruce)#except dick he just really doesn't give two shits about (at least compared to the others)#like sure he probably views him as an opponent or hostile or whatever#but there's no real personal connection like there is with the rest of the fam#but again if I'm totally missing something tell me I'm an idiot
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listen. people have always debated which character is the most normal guy but what if it has in fact been crowley the whole time. no string pulling no master plan just a guy who wants to keep his school running and is cursed with problematic students and incidents
honestly I think the funniest possible reveal would be one of two options:
ONE: Crowley has no plot relevance whatsoever. he wears the mask to cover his receding hairline. his darkest secret is the bottle of "medicinal" whiskey under his desk. this man can barely plan a PTA function with six months' advance notice, he doesn't have the time or patience for any kind of overarching master plot involving mutating students or whatever. the only thing wrong with him is that he's been running this school for (mumblemumble) years and, quite frankly, if you'd been putting up with NRC students for a couple of centuries, you'd have totally checked out by this point too.
OR
TWO: Crowley IS actually Raverne and HAS been slowly enacting a master gambit...to embezzle school funds. the overblots are still completely incidental. he has somehow less idea of what's going on than we do. we confront him about it and he's just like
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 spoilers#just sorta the general episode 7 tags there#this meme has surely been done with crowley before but i felt like i needed to#honestly the 'everyone actually just has blot radiation poisoning from the chandelier' was my serious theory for a while#and i'm still like...well...i dunno...#we're at the point where i almost think it would be funnier if they never actually explain what's up with crowley#a buttress falls on him during the final battle and we simply never find out#except no i do actually need to know. i've had too long to stew over it. i need answers!!!!#my current baseless speculation is that it's raverne's body but they just like...stuffed a bird brain in there or something idk#look the longer they make me wait the more bonkers my theories are going to become#'crowley has no connection to raverne and we're all just reading way too much into it' would be kind of an incredible non-twist though#yana sitting there like oh shit. oh no. my masterful reference to that's so raven has been taken wildly out of context.
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i'm gonna burn my house down
and never look back
and never look back
AND NEVER LOOK BACK
#isat#in stars and time#isat loop#isat spoilers#if you tilt your head#jpdoesart#if the link doesn't work the song is 'Echo' by Crusher ft Gumi#But technically i'm linking to a cover of Echo by a YT/NND chorus put together by Seiryuudo#because I think it sounds nicer#...something something about burning bridges you'll never get back cause of a shit mental break#knowing the connections are gone but forever reminded of what little is left behind#whats left behind is your awful little feelings#this composition isn't technically mine since it's from the illustration in the vid#but I figured it'd look sick if I added the party members arms there instead and i got possessed by a silly little art fairy to make it rea#and i was correct :)
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ă boys don't cry ă
about suppressed emotions, downplayed heartaches, and the expectations to remain stoically self reliant without the community and connection needed to help open the paths away from isolated self destruction.
#bit of a revisit of an older piece#tldr: how gender stereotypes can lead people down a path of isolation self-destruction and / or radicalization#it's jarring being trans and going from one version of seen and not heard to a wildly similar yet different version of seen and not heard#thanks to therapy + friends i'm opening up more and i wish the same for other people. shit Can get better#you just gotta find the right people who will patiently help you start to dismantle those walls brick by brick#can be a friend a family member a therapist - someone who you can authentically open up to and reciprocate that with#can even be someone eight time zones ahead of you online. that's fine too.#all i'm saying is: there is community and connection out there for you - even if right now it really feels like there isn't#2025 art#nonanthro#godbirdart#godbird#canines#animals#cliffs#april 2025
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I met the Marauders at a gas station-
I was filling up my car's gas, when a convertible with four guys rolled up at the pump next to me.
The driver was an Indian guy with glasses and curly hair. (James)
In the passenger seat was a tall brunette boy. (Remus)
In the backseat there was a boy with shoulder length brown hair. (Sirius)
Next to him in the back was a blonde boy. (Peter)
As the driver was filling up the car, the boy with shoulder length brown hair was word-for-word singing along to Taylor Swift's "We are never getting back together" as it played from the car's Bluetooth/radio. The blonde occasionally joined in when it was like "Ooh, Ooh-ooh-ooh-ohh" and parts of the refrain. The brunette in the front seat had his head in his hands groaning, occasionally pointing out the other people at the gas station watching them all. And the driver was laughing the whole time.
The fact they match up perfectly with the personalities is insane-
#I'm obsessed#it's not healthy#am I a hater of taylor swift x marauders era? yes.#But this whole event is funny as shit when you consider THAT connection too#marauders#the marauders#sirius black#remus lupin#james potter#peter pettigrew#moony wormtail padfoot and prongs#remus peter sirius and james
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can you see the stars in your dreams (and do they have a lot to say about me) - Part 9
Or: a secret Admirer AU
PART 1 || PART 2 || PART 3 || PART 4 || PART 5 || PART 6 || PART 7 || PART 8
Jeff calls her. Itâs the first time theyâve spoken on the phone, and something flutters in her chest.
âHow did you get this number?â she asks, finger twirling the coiled wire of the phone as she smiles down at her socked feet.
âThereâs only one Cunningham in the phone book, Chrissy,â he replies, all dry witâshe can almost see the smirk on his face. âItâs not exactly rocket science.â
She laughs, shuffling around her kitchen, suddenly desperate to move, but sheâs leashed to the wall by her phoneâs cord, so itâs only about four steps each way until sheâs bungee-corded back to the starting point.
âSmartass.â
Jeff laughs this time, quiet the way he always is, but her chest feels like a supernovaâs exploding in it. âBut thatâs not why I called.â
Chrissyâs smile fixes to her face before drooping down into her shoes with her gut. âWhatâs wrong?â she asks, now standing statuesque in her kitchen, cold tiles leaching all the warmth from her feet even through her thick socks.
âNothing,â Jeff sighs, and thereâs a crackling sound, like heâs rubbing his face in exhaustion. âJustâSteve drove me home.â
âIs he okay?â she asks, clenching the phone hard enough in her hand that the cheap plastic creaks.
âI think so?â Jeff replies, sounding unsure. âHe just seems sad, man.â
Steve and Jeff donât spend a lot of time together, but heâs been around enough that she trusts his judgment.
Steve is sad.
Chrissy wants to sink down to the cold tile beneath her and never get up. Instead, she shuffles back over to the phone and swings herself up onto the countertopâwhat her mother doesnât know wonât hurt her. Her heels clack against the cupboards noisily, broadcasting her restlessness even as the worry sinks straight through her.
âWhat about?â she asks, already knowing the answer.
âHe thinks Eddie hates him.â
Chrissy sucks in a breath and lets it shudder out before biting her lip against the next logical question. âDoes he?â
âHe thinks he does,â Jeff replies promptly. âBut he definitely doesnât.â
Chrissy hums, too lost in her own head to think of a reply. It doesnât matter what Eddie feels if the effect is the same: a sad Steve Harrington.
âI donât think you guys should do this anymore,â Jeff says, snapping her out of her spiral.
âI know,â she groans, shoulders slumping. âBut Steveâs hellbent on keeping it up.â
He sighs again, muttering, âboys,â with such a defeated air that she canât help but laugh again.
âYou just keep an eye on yours, and Iâll do the same for mine,â she says, smile audible in her voice. âDeal?â
âI feel like yours is a bit easier to wrangle than mine,â Jeff scoffs, a twinge of bitterness leaking into his tone.
And heâs right; Eddie still hasnât even told Jeff about the letters heâs been getting, much less asked his opinion on them. Steve, at least, keeps her appraised of his next moves, shares his feelings, and asks for her help even if he wonât always take her advice.
So, when Steveâs acting weird when she sees him the next morningâall shifty-eyed and nervousâshe doesnât ask. Heâll tell her when heâs ready. Besides, the hallwayâs too crowded, and sheâs got a sneaking suspicion that it has something to do with her and Jeffâs conversation last night.
Sheâs proved right when they hit the library at lunch instead of the cafeteria, and Steve barely waits until theyâre settled in their usual table, feet interlaced.
âHe hates me,â Steve whispers.
âHe doesnât hate you.â
Steve pouts across at her, bottom lip stuck out like a puppy dog as he accuses, âyouâve been talking to Jeff.â
Chrissy bites her lip. âI always talk to Jeff.â
He rolls his eyes, but it seems to lift his spirits. âDid you ask him out yet?â
âShut up.â She kicks him beneath the table until he laughs.
Without further preamble, he pulls a piece of paper from his bag and pushes it across to her. She expects the latest note from Eddie, having yet to read the last one, but itâs notâitâs a letter from Steve, clearly responding to something sheâs yet to see.
âDid you pick up the letter yourself?â she asks, panic sinking through her. He could get caught, and then all their subterfuge will be for nothing. She might lose her best friend.Â
âYeah,â Steve mutters, so shyly that she canât bear to chastise him further. âWhat do you think?â
She reads it again, trying to look past the panic to the words in front of her. âItâs good,â she says, and it is. âDo you want to send it like this?â
His handwriting is barely legible, even to her with her weeks of practice, and thereâs a few misspellings, but sheâll do whatever he wants, forever and always. But he shakes his head, and asks, âWill you edit it?â
âCan I see the one youâre responding to?â she asks.
He pulls it out of his bag and pushes it across the table without a complaint. She picks it up and begins to read.
        Secret Admirer,
        There was a little hiccup with my guitar and plugging her in, but otherwise it went great! All four of the drunks at the Hideout clapped politely when we were done, and not even one of them booed us off stage!
        The riff is still getting on my last nerve, darling, you have no idea. I wish I could hear you play, I bet youâd inspire me so much, a stroke of genius would strike me and Iâd know exactly what Iâm missing.
        (I donât know how to ride a bike. My dad was never around to teach me, and by the time I moved in with Uncle Wayne, I was too old to learn.)
        Darling, did you dream of me? Was it a naughty dream?
        Yours,
        Eddie
P.S. The Lord of the Rings is the name of the whole trilogy, so I hope you find it in The Fellowship. Canât believe you donât even know Tolkein. Itâs okay, baby, I like you anyway.Â
She smiles when sheâs done, kicking him beneath the table as she asks, âDoes this sound like someone who hates you?â
If anything, Steve just gets droopier. âItâs for you,â he mumbles, and she doesnât have anything to say.
Chrissy squeezes his foot tighter between her own in a pantomime of a hug.
Even with his newfound pessimism, he carefully rereads her edited words once sheâs done. He smiles down at it, clearly cheered by the act of writing to Eddie.
âIt looks great, Chris,â he says genuinely, as if sheâd done more than correct his spelling and rewrite his letter word for word.
âThanks,â she replies, smiling across at him, relieved his spirits have risen. âNow, letâs drop this in his locker so he doesnât have to wait too long to read your lovely letter.â
Steveâs ears turn red with embarrassment, but he dutifully wraps his arm around her waist and leads her out of the library.
Jasonâs loitering outside of it, leaning against the wall like itâs a coincidence heâs here at all, but the way his eyes glare at the point where theyâre in contact makes a liar out of him.
Steve seems to agree because he pulls her closer and asks, âproblem, Carver?â in his snootiest King Steve voice.
Jason holds his hands up, smiling like this is all a coincidence, but he seems to have forgotten that Chrissy knows him, maybe better than anyone. She sees the way his arms are flexing, the way heâs baring his canines more than smiling, and it makes her feel on edge.
âNo problem, man,â he replies, untold violence behind every word.
âLetâs just go,â she whispers to Steve.
Sheâs relieved when he nods, not sparing Jason another look as they take the most direct route to Eddieâs locker. He doesnât respond until theyâre well out of Jasonâs hearing range. âThat guyâs starting to really freak me out,â he says, talking quietly still, even after putting all this distance between them.
Chrissy sighs. The thing is, she still misses Jason, but the Jason she misses is at least a year dead and gone. Now, all thatâs left of him is someone who wants to own her.
âMe, too.â
***Â
Thereâs something different about the letter he finds in his locker this time.
 Eddie â
 You were the best damn thing those drunks have ever seen, hands down. No, before you ask, I wasnât there. But when I had that letter under my pillow, I dreamed a little dream (not naughty, I know youâre disappointed, sorry). I donât remember the songs, but I remember the way you looked for me in the crowd and smiled. All the dream people gave you a standing ovation, me loudest of all.
 Youâre never too old to learn to ride a bike. My dad didnât teach me either, but a friend did. Maybe someday, I could be that friend for you, and when I tell you I wonât let go, you can rest easy knowing Iâm not lying.
 Sincerely,
 Your Secret Admirer
 P.S. I know itâs still winter, but Iâll meet you in A Midsummer Nightâs Dream.
The handwriting is just the same, and itâs as sweet as always, but still. Thereâsâsomething Eddie canât quite put his finger on no matter how many times he rereads the letter. Maybe he should have paid more attention in English class instead of always working on his next campaign.
He watches Chrissy when sheâs not paying attention, trying to figure out whatâs changed, but Harrington always catches him and stares him down like a dog marking his territory.
It leaves him flushed, desperately trying to focus on whatever heâs supposed to be doing. By the time he looks up, Harringtonâs always moved onto something else.
Maybe itâs just because they know each other now, spend time with each other, are even becoming friends? Eddie doesnât mind, as long as the letters keep coming. He might even like this letter best of all. It feels more honest, real somehow, like heâs peeling back the layers of bullshit obfuscation to get to the truth of who she is.
He hopes it lasts.
Itâs hard to write his own letter back, to meet that same level of transparency to someone who, despite now having a name and face, still feels like a nebulous being. A nebulous being whose favorite color he knows, whoâs insecurities feel like theyâre his own, whose words heâs stroked on the page late at night while unable to sleep.
He tries to pour that same energy back into his letter.
 Secret Admirer,
 I wish I could dream about you, too. I want to know your face well enough to hold it in my mind, even unconscious. I want to lay my head on my pillow tonight and know that youâll be waiting for me in dreamland, ready to be the best groupie a guy could ask for.
 The truth is, no oneâs loved me before. No oneâs liked me, or kissed me, or held my hand during a scary movie. And, thatâs scarier than any movie could ever be. Because, youâre it, baby. The one and only, and all that shit.
 Iâve got friends, and thatâs enough for me! It really is! But a part of me just wants to hold someoneâs handâyour hand. Maybe we can someday. Maybe we can do all the things weâve talked about: go to a drive-in, play music together, learn to ride a bike. But even if we never do, Iâm grateful for every one of these letters. Being wanted is new to me, and Iâm not ready to give it up.
 Yours, always,
 Eddie
He steps into the Shakespeare section once more and slips the note into A Midsummer Nightâs Dream and promptly tries his best to forget about it. It doesnât work.
He wants a response immediately, dreads waiting the typical days it takes for a letter to appear in his locker, so no one can blame him for panicking.
âDo you want to come to a Corroded Coffin practice?â Eddie blurts after the latest Hellfire session.
Chrissyâs browâs all furrowed up as she asks, âCorroded Coffin?â
Eddieâs surprised she doesnât already know. Heâs mentioned it at least once in one of his letters; does she not spend her nights pouring over the words like he does? Does she not have every dotted i and crossed t seared into her retinas?
His intestines wriggle around in his body, fingers itching to tear his letter into tiny little pieces before she reads his desperate, yearning words.
âMy band,â Eddie replies, his response overlapping eerily with Harringtonâs, âhis band.â
Chrissy smirks between them but Eddie barely notices, too caught up in staring at Harrington. âHow do you know that?â he demands.
Harringtonâs shoulders curl, like Eddieâs the threat here as he mutters his response barely loud enough to hear over the sounds of the other Hellfire members packing up, âuh, the middle school talent show?â
Eddieâs lip quirks up as Harrington looks up from his own shoes and meets Eddieâs eyes. âYou remember that?â
Harrington snorts. âHard to forget, dude.â
Harringtonâs smilingâheâs never noticed before but itâs a little off center, just enough to be endearing. Eddie smiles back helplessly, taking a step forward as he asks, âthe king remembers little old me?â
He gets a laugh this time, Harringtonâs eyes almost crinkling shut with his amusement. Heâs got a nice laugh. Eddieâs never noticed before, hasnât heard anything from him that wasnât at least a little snide.
Eddie opens his mouth, desperate to elicit that noise again, when Chrissy pointedly clears her throat and reality comes rushing back inâwhat was that? He snaps his gaze back to her, shuffling his feet, feeling absurdly guilty. For what? Being nice to her boyfriend?
âWhen is it?â she asks.
It takes him a minute to remember what they were talking about. âOh!â he exclaims, taking a step back when he realizes how close heâs gotten. âUh, tomorrow night in Garethâs garage.â
Chrissyâs smiling, but thereâs something sly about it, Eddie knows, watching the flashing of her eyes, that Chrissy Cunningham knows what evil is and has the capacity to perform it. So much for his pet theory that sheâs actually a golden retriever stuffed into a human girlâs body.
âCan Steve come?â When Eddie frowns, shifting his eyes to a red-eared Harrington standing stock-still beside her, she continues, âitâs just, Jasonâs been a little intense lately?â
Carverâs name seems to bring Harrington back to life. He damn-near growls as he wraps his arm around Chrissyâs waist. âThe word youâre looking for is stalkery.â
She snorts, ânot a word, but yeah.â
Now that they mention it, Carver has seemed to be within armâs reach of Chrissy for a while now, loitering on her fringes with his arms crossed like heâs staking his claim, even all these months after they broke up.
âSure,â Eddie replies, and he means it. Harrington can come if it keeps Eddie from ending up on the wrong side of Carverâs fists. âHarrington can come.â
Harringtonâs ears flush again, and he mutters an awkward, âthank you,â before leading Chrissy out of the drama room.
Once theyâve cleared out, Gareth sighs, long and loud as he says, âband practice is going to be so awkward.â
Eddie glares at him, having forgotten entirely about his audience while talking to Harrington and Chrissy. âOh, it wonât be so bad.â
âYeah, right,â Doug snorts, shouldering his bag and heading toward the door.
âOh, ye of little faith!â he replies as all three of them head out the door, Jeff having inexplicably already left despite Eddie being his usual ride home on Hellfire days. âItâll be fine!â
Before he drives the guys home, he doubles back to the library to try and steal back his note, but itâs too late: the doors are locked and by the morning, the noteâs sure to be gone.
Theyâre right; band practice is awkward, and itâs not even Eddieâs fault. Itâs not even Harringtonâs fault. Itâs Jeffâs.
âYou look nice today,â Jeff says, looking directly at Chrissy, who blushes.
Heâs right, she does look nice in a cute pink cardigan and some light-wash jeans that fit her well. Itâs not Eddieâs style, but it suits her. But Jeff doesnât have to say it while her boyfriend is standing right there.
âThanks,â she says, smiling at Jeff.
Harrington just keeps standing there while Jeff does what can only be described as flirting, with his girlfriend. Everyone else carries on like this is normal, but Garethâs sending him crazy-eyed looks proving that Eddieâs not the only sane one.
Dougâs too busy practicing his riffs, sure, and Jeffâs clearly gone off the deep end, but Harrington? Whatâs his excuse?
When heâd been dating Wheeler, heâd been all over her at all times, monopolizing her time whenever possible. And sure, Chrissy and Harrington are always together, but thereâs never more than an arm around her waist or sitting close together. Heâs never even seen them kiss.
And now here he is, letting Jeff flirt with his girlfriend right in front of him.
Eddie just doesnât get it.
Corroded Coffinâs a fucking mess, Gareth keeping a beat only he can hear, Eddie missing every other note, and Jeff too busy looking at Chrissy to keep tempo. Only Doug is on his game, clearly getting more and more fed up with each new fuck-up.
Chrissy stays by Jeffâs side, whispering with him between songs while Harrington flops down on the couch and watches them play like itâs his own, personal concert.
Eddie canât take his eyes off Steve. He wants to peel the guy like an onion, figure out what makes him tick, what makes him smile, why the hell heâs here in Garethâs smelly garage watching his girlfriend make eyes at Jeff while she writes love letters to Eddie in her free time.
He wants to know.
He justâ
Wants.
***Â
Steveâs words have been echoing around her brain for daysâhave you asked him out yet? Itâs ridiculous, but before heâd said those words, sheâd never even considered it as an option. Boys ask girls out, thatâs how it works. But if Steve can like a boy, she can ask out Jeff.
That doesnât make it any less scary though. She sits on the revelation for a few days more, watching Jeff out of the corner of her eye, flirting back after he instigates. But thatâs the problem, isnât it? Itâs still him instigating.
âIâm going to ask him out,â she tells Steve, not looking at him as they walk into the school together, too afraid of what sheâll see.
âYeah?â he asks, bumping their shoulders together. âWhen?â
When she glances his way, heâs grinning ear to ear. She huffs, âI donât know, soon?â Looking away so she doesnât have to see that sly look on his face. âItâs just so scary.â
âI know, Chris,â he says, bumping into her again and again just to annoy her. âBut youâre the strongest person I know.â
She doesnât feel strongâshe feels like a breeze might swipe her feet out from under her, but Steve believes in her. Steve thinks sheâs strong, and she told him sheâd ask Jeff out, so she will.
So, when Jeff next slides into her passenger seat, she starts the car and drives away without saying a word.
This has become something of a habit latelyâif thereâs no Hellfire, she drives Jeff home. Usually they talk, or turn on music they both like and sing along. The quiet has his feet tapping and fingers picking at the seam of his jeans. He grows more restless with each minute that passes.
âChrissy?â he asks finally, a shyness to his voice that sheâs not used to hearing. From the first time theyâd spoken, heâs been confidentâquiet, yeah, but assured. âAre you okay?â
Unable to take the waver of his voice sitting down, Chrissy veers off the side of the road, holding her arm out to keep Jeff from smacking into the dash at the abrupt change in momentum. She puts the thing in park, takes off her seatbelt, and turns in her seat to face Jeff head-on.
His eyes are wide, clearly freaked out by her erratic behavior, but he still unlatches his own seatbelt and mimics her position, awkwardly pulling his feet beneath him when it becomes clear his legs are too long to fit.
Sheâs helplessly charmed; it may just be Steve and Eddieâs letters rubbing off on her, but she wants to reach out and take his hand. So she does.
His fingers jerk in hers, pulling back a little like itâs instinct before he drops his hand on the console separating them and lets her link their fingers together. Even with the heater on, the interior of her carâs cold enough that his skin scalds against hers, sending a shudder through her.
âIs this the part where you murder me?â he asks, squeezing her hand. âBecause if so, let me know.â
âSo you can run away?â she asks, grateful for the moment of levity.
âNo, because Iâm a gentleman,â he replies, winking at her, âand I can help dig the grave, save you some work.â
Chrissy laughs, once again captivated by him. Heâs a nerd, how is he so gosh darn charming? Her cheeks hurt, her heart hurts, her whole body is tingling with the anticipation of what sheâs about to do.
âChrissyââ
âWill you go out with me?â she asks, slapping her hand over her mouth when she realizes she interrupted him. She closes her eyes, entirely mortified. âShoot, sorry!â
His hand spasms in hers before he tightens his hold. âYouâreâŚâ he starts, hand shaking in hers. She opens her eyes, horrible visions of him crying dancing behind her lids, but heâs laughing, whole body moving with the effort of suppressing it. âYouâre apologizing for the best moment of my life?â
She laughs, too, helpless not to. âIs that a yes, or are you just laughing at me?â
He hums, tilting his head closer to hers, chuckles finally fading away as he replies, âcan it be both?â
âAlways.â
Chrissy bounces a little in her seat, vibrating with pent-up excitement. Maybe sometimes the girl can get the guy instead of the other way around.
He hums again, low down in his throat, and their gazes lock. The energy in her car is so electric her skin is buzzing with it. She wants to reach across the distance between them and steal a kiss. But girls donât do that sort of thing. Girls arenât supposed toâ
She leans across the console separating them and kisses him, and kisses him, and kisses him. Jeff gasps into it, like heâs the one being electrocuted now, and suddenly his hand is out of hers, but thatâs okay because itâs on her face now, drawing her closer, closer, closer, as he sucks on her bottom lip until she gasps.
She might have stayed in that position forever, craning her body uncomfortably forward like a sunflower toward the light, if she hadnât shifted a little too far to the left into her carâs horn with a bony hip.
As it blares, they both jump apart, eyes wide, cheeks flushed, looking around for a threat that will never come.
âOops,â she whispers, settling back into her seat, back protesting at the change of angle.
Jeff laughs, head thrown back, long throat on full display. She wants to bite it, but the momentâs long since broken, so she puts her seatbelt on and shifts back onto the road, cheeks flaming, heart warm.
âDoes this mean youâre going to give me your letterman jacket?â he asks once heâs finally stopped laughing. âIâm not familiar with jocks courting rituals.â
Chrissyâs responding laugh isnât her usual cultivated giggleâitâs a bark that makes Jeff grin at her. âOh my goodness, can you even imagine the looks weâd get?â
âOr that Steve would.â Jeff replies. âBut youâve gotta admit, Iâd look good in his jacket.â
She almost wants to do it for the drama, Eddieâs presence rubbing off on her surely, but itâs not quite worth doubling the lynch mobs that will already be after all of them.
âYou realize this is only making this whole situation even messier, donât you?â she asks, eyes on the road.
âYeah,â Jeff sighs, but his fingers reach across the car and settle atop her hand where itâs clasping the stick shift. âBut worth it, right?â
Sheâs been smiling so much that her cheeks hurt, but at that, she damn-near beams ear to ear. âYeah, baby,â she says, heat pooling low in her stomach when Jeff lets out a soft little gasp. âYouâre worth it.â
PART 10
#koko's steddie secret admirer au#steddie#my fic#chrissy/jeff is actually something that can be sooooo personal#also eddie's like 'i'm connecting the dots!' and Chrissy is just like 'you haven't connected shit. come on jeff'
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viago "fashion police" de riva
#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age fanart#lucanis dellamorte#andarateia cantori#viago de riva#illario dellamorte#rook de riva#rook datv#Marisol de Riva#i saw a post once upon a time that mentioned Viago was probably appalled by the mercenary rags Rook was wearing lol and kept that head cano#another scene from the fanfic i have in my head lmao#in my HC story for Marisol the recruitment missions go a little different to kind of take away the game-ified aspect#once in the lighthouse Marisol reaches out to Viago (though lol she does wait for a bit because she got kicked out so she's still upset)#Caterina has been keeping her people watching the Ossuary for any changes because she's been slowly connecting the pieces over the past yea#solas's ritual and other stuff happens and the location gets revealed and weakened etc#rook gets in contact with a letter and a candelhop for viago to use to contact her#bc that's how i'm hc'ing that they get messages in the fade lolol#Caterina approaches Viago with a coded contract packet to send to Rook and the contract is basically to breach the Ossuary#and rescue an imprisoned Crow (Rook is unaware Lucanis is âdeadâ since she was gone and the contract keeps it vague)#but there's the implication it's someone important since Caterina wants to stage a rescue#the packet with info on the Ossuary also ties the operations happening there with the red lyrium artifacts they've been hunting in Minratho#and the appearance of abominations that aren't like any they've encountered before#so going to the Ossuary ALSO is important to the 'stop the Old Gods' plot#BUT ANYWAY that's why this comic reads like she's just seen Viago again despite having Lucanis with her#and also Lucanis was dirty and naked etc in the Ossuary got temp armor and clothes from an inn keep once they escaped#Illario ALSO moved his plan to attack the Diamond after Zara accidentally let it slip that Lucanis was still alive#he'd been fully operating under the assumption that Lucanis was dead for the past year and was plotting to like...#try to stage things to gain favor with Caterina because she still wasn't budging#but then he overhears Zara yelling at Calivan in a magic mirror or some shit that the Ossuary is being breached and Lucanis has escaped#so Illario panicks and directs the venatori attack on the Diamond and kidnaps Caterina so he can have JSUT A LITTLE LONGER to figure it out
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i've said this before but i think this show was at its best when the opening season disasters set up some themes/storylines that continued on into the season. i think the tsunami arc was so great not just because those eps themselves were high quality, high drama, great effects, wonderful character moments etc., but because of how the eps set up some stuff that lingered for so many characters. for may, for buck, for chris; just to name a few.
the past few seasons we haven't had that. i enjoyed beenado and the plane landing but if you removed that from the season does it affect anything that's happened since?
#911 thoughts#sorry i don't mean to be posting all negative shit today lol#but i've been thinking about this more and feel like it's a big issue with the show right now#and something about this current disaster brought up those thoughts again#it's not just the opening disasters but all the bigger stuff#don't really connect to the rest of the season in meaningful ways#think about the train derailment the shooting the blackout the dispatch fire#those were all big dramatic disaster/fire eps#that were important for setting up or for the culmination of important character driven storylines#idk anyway i'm done rambling lol
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#i've connected the dots. you didn't connect shit. i've connected them. etc. etc.#don't mind me i'm just still connecting dots that may or may not come to fruition#at minimum the road is a witch trap created by rio (or someone/thing more powerful/above her)#if i have it my way agatha will have also been a work partner to rio and they set traps together#until something happened to nicholas and agatha got the darkhold#i think agatha has been on the road before. i just don't think she's walked it properly#i'm sure the reality of canon will not be all i want from it but until then i remain happily delusional#agatha all along#agatha harkness#rio vidal#agathario
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You know... if you squint...
#danny phantom#vlad plasmius#maddie fenton#screenshots#i'm not saying plasmius is trying to đŁđŚđ¤đ°đŽđŚ maddie but...#big red eyes/goggles: check#dark rings around eyes/goggles: check#turquoise skin/suit: check#maniacal obsession with something: check#i've connected the two dots#(i didn't connect shit)
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Marcille and Chilchuckâs interwoven character arcs: the fantasy of prince charming, idealization vs pessimism and loss

Iâve alluded to Marcille and Chilchuck being central to each otherâs arcs so many times but the proper full analysis has been long overdue. Iâve made a post going into their differences and similarities and the many ways theyâre foils for each other, but this is going to give more focus to a narrative rather than character angle this time around. We talk a lot about the importance of Marcille in Chilchuckâs arc, it's more obvious overall, but less so about Chilchuckâs importance in her own, so this is going to emphase on the latter. When talking about fantasy vs reality, usually optimism is associated with fantasy and pessimism with reality, but that's not the full picture either. Both situations and relationships can be layered and subtext can imply quite a lot, the reality of things can be more complex than we'd like or hard to reconcile, and that's exactly what we're talking about today and how that is a lesson both Marcille and Chilchuck needed to learn. Give this a shot and look at the manga pages alongside my reading and decide for yourself whether Iâve got a point or Iâm going overboard~!
So, Marcille and Chilchuck are character foils in many many ways, and I think a particularly brilliant part of their arc is how they balanced each other out on idealization. On one hand, idealizing things means only seeing what you want to see through rose-colored glasses, on the other, being completely opposed to it usually means denouncing any optimism at all, refusing to hold any good faith or hope. These stances reflect both their backgrounds, as Chilchuck has lived through being discriminated against and taken advantage of consistently, betrayed by employers and eventually the person supposed to be closest to him, his wife, meanwhile Marcille grew up more sheltered and lonely, and books were a big way through which she experienced social situations & the ways of the world in her rural home before going to the magic academy as a researcher and getting more actual life experience herself.
I think itâs especially interesting to analyze the trope ofâ the idealization ofâ the perfect chivalrous prince on a white horse who is pure hearted and will make you swoon, in the context of their relationship and their arcs! Itâs a recurring motif- youâll just have to trust me and read further~ Obviously this contains spoilers for the whole manga, so beware! It's very long because I'm trying to cover the topic fully from the ground up, my apologies.
Table of contents:
How they start out
The Daltian Clan and its importance
Prince Charming vs Chilchuck Tims
Ideals vs desires vs wants
Deconstructing realistic romance & compromising between romanticism and reality
Princess imagery in Marcille
Conclusion

Letâs start with the beginning:
How the characters start off:
Their relationship is both familiar and strained (extra reading: analysis of their relationship pre-canon and early canon), they bounce off each other with the ease of coworkers whoâve been working together for two years and who share similar common sense. Because yes theyâre both generally grounded and rational, and generally they respect each otherâs input and perspective, but, they both have blind spotsâŚ
The biggest hurdle is the way Chilchuck refuses to open up. Marcille has made efforts to befriend him, and though he was open to developing a better workplace dynamic and, say, helping her out with shopping for a pouch outside of work, even if it ended up being counterproductive heâd refuse to even just say his age, let alone share anything about his family situation. Knowing he had kids and a wife would have pretty efficiently fully shut down that he was a kid, and yet he valued being closed off more. Chilchuck is often shown being pessimistic, assuming the worst intentions out of people and being wary of anything good happening, being the last person to trust something or someone, etc. (Quick summary analysis of him I made if you want here, beyond the character foil analysis I linked at the beginning.) He prefers assuming that opening up will only bring him problems to assuming that it'd bring about positive things.
Meanwhile Marcille is very⌠Honestly sheâs hard to classify strongly. Because I could say sheâs very open to people, but honestly itâs conditional? She emotes intensely but sheâs not quite a befriending machine either, especially when we recall the magic academy days as well, sheâs not unused to keeping people at some level of distance, herself keeping a lot of secrets too. She was very wary of Laios at first because she had misconceptions, she holds grudges and isnât personable with everyone like Namari or Toshiro, when sheâs introduced to the party she seems serious and doesnât smile. While I donât fully agree, thereâs a good analysis not by me here showcasing what Iâm talking about. Marcilleâs more serious academic side often gets undermined and I think itâs an important part of her, but then the difference between her and Chilchuck comes down to theory vs practice: knowledge vs experience. I think something more fitting to say would be that sheâs idealistic and easily swayed, for example the way she lights up whenever she can put a story-like twist on things, her mood can go from dread to hype and reverse in one second, like with riding a kelpie or with the conflict between Chilchuck and his wife, or again with Namari, where it becomes a sort of hero vs antagonist dynamic for her where justice and righteous thoughts should override everything else like needing money to live. She's very stubborn, like he is, but it's easier for her to come around in dramatic ways, on things big and small, mentioning for another example thinking better of orcs suddenly because they can cook well.


So sure on first meeting she isnât exactly eager, but then we do see her enthusiastically trying to befriend everyone! Becoming very friendly once sheâs done assessing them. She is social, and fittingly sheâs very curious about people. And that said, aesthetics do matter a lot to her, and I mean this beyond just enjoying vibes, for example- and follow along the lingo I'm setting up here- if something âbreaksâ an aesthetic like Chilchuck or Falin not being a child sheâll willfully dismiss and ignore it, if she can spin something into a story like Chilchuckâs breakup sheâll get carried away, she can get the wrong impression, be gullible for the sake of believing a narrative, such and such. Iâd say sheâs guarded around people at first, but then with time becomes an open book emotions wise, how sheâs always loudly and unapologetically talking about her feelings and emoting. Sheâs not reckless, rather sheâs bold and often has to make decisions quickly, like when the plan unexpectedly changed during the red dragon fight, but things like using dark magic can feel like thoughtless decisions looking from the outside, like to Chilchuck, who as per his pessimism dictates he sees all of this in a negative light, assumes the worst: that sheâs just ignorant, naive and reckless. Sheâs easily worried and discouraged but still always perseveres.
He's biased against mages and elves because of past experiences and he projects that onto Marcille. And it makes sense because good faith is dangerous to Chilchuck- for his feelings in relationships yes, but more concretely and important for his life at work, the way an old party of his was going to sacrifice him to succubi for easy money. Like the way he constantly puts his non-work values down to the group so they donât have high expectations of him, having high expectations for someone else is vulnerability he doesnât want to or cannot afford. The result however is that he, too, put people into boxes to avoid having his preconceived notions challenged. He's very judgemental, which we see with Laios as well, and even with Izutsumi in the ice golem chapter, but by then he's learned to self-reflect more and be honest with his feelings due to Leed, meaning his social conflicts get resolved more often and more quickly, again like with Izutsumi in the ice golem chapter.
So in the end, there are things that stand in the way of them having true, equal respect for one another. She sees him as a kid despite everything else (being capable and mature, etc etc), and he sees her as a ticking bomb of a naive elf mage whoâs gonna get herself into legal trouble if she doesnât get them killed first.
And it takes an arc spanning the whole manga for them to get there, to truly see each other on equal footing, culminating with the bicorn chapter.
I'm going to be mentioning them a lot so in my mind, the most important Marcille & Chilchuck arc defining scenes happen in: mandrake chapter, mimic chapter, shapeshifter chapter, hypogriff soup chapter, changelings, bicorn, succubus, and Marcille dungeon lord. We're talking mostly about Marcille's discrimination and their narrative about loss here, but on the end of Chilchuck's discrimination the dark magic plot is very central so honorable mention to the red dragon chapters, the harpies chapter and the cockatrice chapter, the latter where Chilchuck airs out his beef particularly directly.
Interestingly enough, the mandrake chapter which is in VERY early manga, where characters and dynamics are still being set up, Marcille gets Chilchuck to say that she isn't a burden and that he's glad they have her and her skillset with them, so the question of "does he respect her at all" was answered before the audience could even think to ask it, and Marcille also makes statements shortly after showing she respects him in turn- more on that later. This has for a result that we do know there's a foundation of respect here, even when as said it's not complete... yet.
So letâs get into it! Early on we already get a lot instances hinting at their opposed core values of optimism vs pessimism. Itâs perfectly summarized in the two panel excerpts opening this post: "Sounds romantic!" "Sounds fishy.", hope vs wariness. "Meeting you was fate!" "⌠Which means itâs fate for you to eat these monsters, too!", if good things happening to you is fate then you must accept that all the bad things that happen to you are fate as well. Itâs "Things will work out!" vs "Things will not work out".
The issue here seems rather evident, itâs a balancing game. Compromising, adapting your judgement to the situation. Yes Marcille romanticizes things too much and it can cause her trouble, and yes Chilchuck being so closed off on himself gets him into trouble as well.
(Not telling there was a mimic nearby being maybe the most straightforward example.)

His refusal to hope for anything good happening to him ever is at the core of him not having even tried reconciling with his wife (more on that later with the bicorn chapter). Through the manga, Chilchuck influences her to be more savvy and to respect boundaries more (with himself and Namari for example), while she influences him to become more open and give things a go. Itâs no coincidence that itâs Marcille that pushes him to try reconciling with his wife and gives him hope that it just might work out- that that chance even on its own means it's worth giving it a shot.
The Daltian Clan & its importance
The importance of fiction in some people's lives and their specific psychological relationship to it is a very complex human brain topic with many many studies and an infinite amount of subtleties, I can't possibly do justice to this section at its full potential but I'll go over my major points. But the complex and layered nature of this relationship is why, for example, the interpretation that Marcille is a lesbian despite her likely attraction/love for male fictional characters (if not even just simping or stanning separate from those), has legs to stand on and is a compelling angle!
The Daltian Clan, often shortened as Dalclan, is Marcille's favorite book series and is very very personally important to her. In an extra we learn that part of it is that seeing a half-elf character personally reached out to her and meant a lot. She feels seen through it. Even if it's notable that the half-elf haracter isn't her favorite, general Hagreus, but the one with black hair. It's a Cinderella type of romance & convoluted political intrigue series full with a lot of drama, reminiscent of stuff like Romeo & Juliette or Richard III.
I believe that books were developmentally very important for her, similarly as to how cartoons are important to the education and development of toddlers and kids nowadays, or how oral stories like fairytales have always been important to teach lessons. Fiction engages readers and provides emotional stimulation, which can often be a flawed substitute for actual human contact- but nonetheless a big factor in socialization. For Marcille who lived in a rather rural region surrounded by books and chickens, who couldn't fit in with kids of any age around, books were a major part of teaching her how to socialize, how people and social groups worked. This is also part of why the autistic Marcille angle can be very compelling and plausible, though personally I don't see it that way.
So yes I think that sort of upbringing shaped her a lot, and I think it's part of why Marcille has trouble not putting people into boxes... Why even though Falin assured her it wasn't like that, Marcille had made this whole narrative in her mind painting Laios as a villain that stole Falin away against her will/for nefarious purposes. Why she has trouble not thinking of/treating Falin as a kid, unwilling to process how she has grown up. Why Chilchuck has to be very young in her mind, and it was very very hard for her to reconcile the fact that he wasn't. (It's actually interesting to note that Marcille treats Falin and Chilchuck similarly in a lot of ways, overstepping boundaries, being dimissive and touchy- There's a lot to say about how the party dynamic changed a lot with during canon it becoming just Laios, Marcille and Chilchuck at first and Laios' monster interest reveal, notably that in Falin's absence that she may have latched onto Chilchuck and treats him similarly to Falin may be her finding it omforting to fall into habits or filling a hole.) I think complexity in fictional characters gets her gears turning, but there's always a film of impersonality to it right, where it's not real, there's a safe distance, if you want to form romantic narratives about how things went down and a character's angst, you can, but someone whoâs real⌠Things are often uglier or harder to grapple with. And she doesnât want Falin to have grown up, for her to so quickly have aged. I think applying this sort of storybook veneer onto her real life connections, pushing people into boxes, is a way for her to make social relationships more digestible. And she's a big gossip enjoyer too! Engaging in shallow retellings of people's interpersonal drama, eating it up with enthusiasm and curiosity. Part of it, like with novels, is vicariously living through others I think, experiencing making connections where she hasn't or couldn't, the way her relationship with the other girls at the academy besides Falin stayed distant and shallow despite being friendly. Gossip, like stories, are safe, distant from your own life, they're easy to judge, not unlike the irl popular interest in following othersâ online drama. Youâre not involved yourself, so you donât have as much chance of getting hurt. So yes, easier to digest. Less complex, less unpleasant things and less contradictions that are hard to process. Sort of like a defense mechanism to not have your worldview challenged, dodging having to recognize these things by assigning them tropes. And I think part of it too like I implied is: she canât experience actual loss through books and gossip. They give her emotional social stimulation she doesnât fully allow herself to have with actual humans for fear of getting invested in a way thatâs very raw and personal. Again, like how she pushes Falin away to ignore the more nuanced facets to their relationship! The intensity of what Iâm speculating on here in her character is debatable but I do think itâs present at least in some amount.
In a similar way to dogs being important to Laiosâ social life (I made something of an analysis on that if you're interested, but this one's not relevant to what I'm talking about in this post) books are her comfort zone. If she can compare a real situation to a story it brightens everything and, well, it does make her assume things wrongly often but it also makes her able to analyze people deeply, like the roleplay-theory-speculation about Chilchuck's wife and the way she hit bullseye on how Chilchuck felt in the aftermath. But like how Marcille only agreed to wear the frog suit when the party told her it'd look cute on her, or how thinking about riding on kelpies made her excited for what previously she saw as a tedious and dreadful journey. Special interest power blast.
And this is where comes in her coworker, a disillusioned embittered man.
A guy who knows all about how messed up the world & people can be and isn't afraid to say it how it is, who in every sphere of life has field experience rather than fictional one- with romance, work, and having dreams & ambitions. Someone flawed and real, someone who won't let her interpret him however she wants without confronting her about it & challenging her to change her perspective.
It took a looot for Marcille to fully stop seeing him as a kid, and in a way I think it was necessary for the dissonance to be both this hard to reconcile and this impossible to ignore: that he truly is a middle-aged man down to his demeanor and family background but that he looks like a teen at most to her. That she literally has to look beyond aesthetics to be able to first fathom then accept and internalize that he's an adult despite his looks. That it was so ingrained and took so long, so much that even while she recognized and said "He's usually the most mature one of us", so much that even as it's implied that she knew logically he's an adult before the changelings, as pictured earlier she still couldn't conceive it. It's like with her calling Laios and Falin's parents kids in a post-canon extra, it's not that she doesn't know it's that it's hard to wrap her head around. Necessary and important because, if Chilchuck was any less loud about being a man she could have gone on unchallenged in her assumptions. If it was an easier to dismantle misconception, something easier to digest, then her arc of coming to see him as he is would have had less impact on her character, afterwards she could continue to run with her own interpretations of people like Falin and Namari without her confidence in being able to pin down people into simple roles being so fundamentally shaken. And it's notable too, that Namari's choice to leave the party to look out for herself situation was decidedly unheroic, but it was Chilchuck who spoke to Marcille about why her decision was both reasonable and had a lot of thought behind it, making her accept that it doesn't make Namari a bad person or even a bad coworker or friend.
Chilchuck is someone who knows that sometimes, bad things happen for no reason, and it's not meaningful or part of a grand narrative, it just sucks and you have to deal with it.
As the foil to her very emotional black and white interpretations of things, Chilchuck represents nuance, and he's impossible for her to ignore.
Prince Charming vs Chilchuck Tims
Chilchuck is so obviously not a prince charming. He doesn't have the looks, the attitude nor the lifestyle. Does he have the virtues for it? Well, no... But also, yes. More on that in a bit. It's also interesting to think of the status aspect to it, because being from an impoverished oppressed class/community is so central to Chilchuck's character, something usually far removed from prince charmings and white knights, and not only status wise but on the topic of virtues... Itâs an interesting thread to explore, the way one may have the means to remain chivalrous rather than becoming distrustful and embittered: sometimes optimism is a sign of privilege, being able to be or remain optimistic through life. I'm sure Marcille would be the first to jump onto the aesthetic and narrative allure of a pauper in love with a princess, of a hero of the people Ă la Robin Hood, but it's still interesting to think of that as another facet of the contrast Chilchuck makes. Alright, tangent done.
But obviously, despite this all they have a great work dynamic and respect for each other's capabilities. It's not like Marcille is mean to people who don't fit these fairytale high standards, no thatâs only when she feels wronged or if there's injustice, rather she becomes dismissive of peopleâs complexity, wether they become an angel like Falin or Marcilleâs shapeshifter of Chilchuck or a villain like Namari and Toshiro or Laios when they met. But my point, my point: she actually thinks very highly of him!
"Heâs usually the most mature one of us" "Heâs dependable, weâre counting on him" "No, chilchuck is definitely virtuous."
And I think the ways in which that shows are very interesting.
^ Ok so this happens, in the Namari chapter I keep talking about. Look at his expression in this last panel. He's always teasing her, but doesn't this here feels a bit... Suggestive? Like he's implying things, not just talking about it in a work setting but also giving her general life advice. Maybe even making an innuendo for womanizers, gentlemen who flirt without meaning a thing and have some hidden agenda. Warning her about smooth talkers that seem too good to be true. Itâs honestly a very easy to overlook but defining interaction for them. Itâs a quote thatâs on his Adventurerâs Bible plus his anime quote keychain merch!
I love his implication that "I say what Iâm about straight up, money, so you can trust me"- and isnât that just the exact thing⌠Because that is what this is, heâs pitting himself against these people who help without asking for anything and he's saying heâs more trustworthy and reliable than them, driving a wedge between him and those people to prop himself up by comparison. His words tie a lot here into his general worldview too, of course here he's â¨Imparting His Wisdomâ¨, but it also ties into his self-image issues I'd say, where heâs hard on himself and calls himself a coward etc: if no one has positive expectations for you on an interpersonal level, then you canât disappoint them. It only goes up from here if you start at rock bottom, can't have unpleasant surprises.
But the meaningfulness of this moment doesn't start and end there: That moment happened in chapter 20, but then this happens in chapters 36-37...

I was always puzzled by the split second interaction between Marcille and Kabru. Marcille blushing is the point, itâs in the anime too and itâs the focus of the panel. That moment of hesitation before she goes back into business mode where she looks at him back, and blushes. And idk I always felt like it was weird timing, like it was a weird beat Kui chose to put emphasis on, why the story even had them make eye contact in the first place, what point it could be making besides "Kabru is handsome and charismatic" which was already made with Hien and Benichidori below, otherwise it's not even like Marcille and Kabru ever interact. Like, maybe it's for it to be a callback when she glances at him while the canaries interrogate her at Thistle's house? Regardless, she blushes, but her expression is more akin to a "Uuhh he smiled at me whyâd he smile at me like that. Oh heâs kinda pretty. Well anyways-" rather than swooning or truly checking him out. Sheâs frowning, even. And like I said, being very naturally charming was a point already made previously.

But then⌠This repeated reminder that Kabru is a lady killer IS the point, Marcille reacting to him in that way IS the point. Kabru is the epitome of âwill say they help you but has hidden motives and might betray your trust if it serves their interestâ (not a diss on him tbf he has understandable goals), he is the epitome of looking noble, welcoming and chivalrous but actually being dishonest and manipulative, and whatâs important here is⌠Marcille turns away and sticks by Chilchuck. Of course this is logical, no one would expect her to go running to Kabru lol, but I implore you to think of the thematics of it all, a princely guy, the closest character of the cast in the flesh embodying the prince charming persona, is giving her some positive attention, and it does affect her a bit but nonetheless she turns away, and strategizes with Chilchuck instead of trusting or giving good faith or getting carried away. She chooses Chilchuck. Unlike so often, she doesnât let aesthetics sway her here, get in the way of her better judgement, distract her from the point. She chooses not to give good faith, even if he seems charming and friendly and smiles. Marcille is serious when the situation requires it that's now new, but this is in line with the lesson he instilled earlier above. And if nothing else, Marcille has a good memory, exhibit B to come later. Here we see part of why Chilchuck was afraid of Laios or Senshi but not Marcille blurting out the wrong things with Toshiro and is party, when push comes to shove they're often on the same wavelength. Marcille and Chikchuck do strategize with specifically each other regularly, they do tend to pair up a lot after all, so this isnât especially new, but itâs the first time thereâs this sense of us vs them imo. Like how earlier Chilchuck was saying that heâs better than the smooth talker type, here we see Marcille implicitly agree.

She just has a passing glance & thought for Kabru but she knows her true allies and true values, and she wants to strategize with Chilchuck. What I am saying is that if she was given the choice to think through going with a guy that seems perfect and chivalrous like her succubus, if she was logical about it sheâd pick Chilchuck over that guy actually, yeah. At the end of the day, no matter the pretty smiles, she knows who her actual friends are. Whiiich on that topic, next section!
Ideals vs desires vs wants
It's succubus analysis time
Her succubus is quite direcly a prince figure, a knight on a white horse who's come to whisk her away. He calls her princess, even! She's taken the role of Daltian Clan's protagonist, essentially. He kisses her hand, nothing short of the most classic courtly romance tropes. He's even drawn in a noticeably more shoujo style, not unlike the characters' faces in the aftermath of getting their energy sucked by succubi.
I made a whole analysis on specifically Laiosâ succubus but it covers some stuff that could be interesting for this analysis as well, Iâll repeat the essential stuff tho: Their succubus all show what type of social connection they desire. Izutsumiâs is familial, Marcille wants someone she can emotionally connect with, seemingly romantic, Chilchuck wants something physical and sexual so he doesnât have to think and worry about anything deeper (betrayal, insecurities, etc, the difficulting that come with a committed romantic relationship- also likely related to his senses & stress), and Laios wants people and friends whoâll accept him and his monster interest- platonic.
But more interesting for this analysis is how succubi work. The goal isnât to beckon, but to incapacitate. The succubus doesn't work on the basis of rationality, itâs not a factor they go for and itâs not one they need to appeal to either, as we see. (Laios is a special case -gestures to the linked analysis- but the succubus doesnât appeal to his rationality as much as it soothes his worries, his friends judging him etc etc, and the reason Izutsumi could remain unaffected is that there is always a half of her not enthralled by the succubus because she essentially has two souls.) Neither Marcille, Chilchuck or Izutsumi could realistically expect any of the people they saw to be real and not fake succubis. They KNOW that, they were actively preparing for the succubi to jump on them and fight back, rationally they know they're monsters! But how this monster works is that it targets deep desires within you that when face to face with it'll make you hesitate, make something in you unable to fight or flight and instead do the third instinctive option: freeze. Or especially in Laiosâ case, the form gives the victim just enough confliction on the matter for them to want to believe itâs real. All they have to do is just not move, stay passive and accept the attention, so itâs not an issue of wether they reciprocate an action or run away. It's so that it shortcircuits you and leaves you open to pick like a fruit.

If this wasnât the "reads your heart so deeply that it freezes you to the spot" monster, Chilchuck WOULDNâT be doing anything with these women. Heâs been devoted to his wife even 4 years after separation on bad terms, you think heâd ever cheat on her? If this was a decision he were to make, instead of just freezing, he would reject it. In that similar way, Marcilleâs succubus might not be what sheâd rationally go for. You think if this was what Marcille had to choose, the person she wants most to see and at her side, her most alluring form wouldn't be Falin, alive and well? You think that wouldn't be the thing Laios truly wants most as well? And before people say that canon proved that the latter wasn't with the curse the winged lion put on him, THAT'S THE POINT!!!! You can irrationally desire things, you can desire things to degrees so deep you canât change it even if you wish you could, but if it was truly a choice up to you, you'd choose otherwise. Laios decided to become king, even if that's a lifestyle so far from what he truly wanted, even if it is duty more than fun for him. Like how Chilchuck would choose faithfulness despite for sure having come into contact with many beauties through his four years of separation.
Ideals vs reality are a big Dunmeshi theme in general, same as wants vs needs, and you can see Marcilleâs daydreams and novel themes make it an especially relevant throughline and theme for her. Not unlike how in my opinion General Hareus and Mithrun intentionally look very alike to contrast reality vs fantasy!

Marcille never reacts any particular way to Mithrunâs appearance despite the blatant resemblance, so that makes me think the point/joke is meta rather than character focused. The romanticization of elves and their societal drama in their fiction contrasting heavily with a very real and imperfect product of their military system. The canaries certainly arenât glamorous next to whatever military Hareus is the general of. Thereâs even the fun little details like Hagreusâ lips being drawn with extra details because theyâre full and pretty while Mithrunâs lips are drawn with extra details because theyâre chapped and dehydrated. Hence the fantasy vs reality theme, both in that fantasies can be very disappointing when realized and in that they may not be what you actually want past your mind palace. Marcille doesn't even react to him- which we could almost directly parallel to how pretty young blondes is Chilchuck's type but he never seems to make a big deal of Marcille- he still wants his wife.
So yes, themes of what you actually want vs irrational cravings. Base desires vs actual wants. Needs are also separate, but not relevant for this discussion. To get to the specific definitions Iâm using for the words in this sectionâs header, ideals vs wants vs desires: ideals are your ideal of something, the best degree to which a thing could be tailored to you, and it can be derived from both wants and desires, usually a mix of the two, but for example: Iâd say the succubus is a type of ideal (the platonic ideal of allure to the victim) derived solely from desires, because a want is active rather than passive, acted upon rather than suffered, because a want unlike a desire involves thinking things through. So a want: something you want, you take actions towards getting or achieving it, it can be a very strong feeling but itâs something you pursue or wish to pursue. Finding a cure to death is a want, not wanting to be alone is a desire, see, Iâm assigning desire this more primal or unchanging subconscious nature to it. On the flipside with Chilchuck, sex without ties, easy pleasure, is a desire, but the want is not having to think about his marriage situation because itâs painful, not wanting an emorional connection because itâs all the easier to be hurt with, just wanting to take his mind off of everything for a while.
Thus the succubus targets Marcilleâs wish for a perfect knight who could cherish her forevermore, someone safe and known and fantastical, just hers in a way, free to see and construct however she wants because heâs a character to interpret, and it targets Chilchuckâs wish for pleasure thatâll whisk him away from the stress and pressure and reality of his life, something thatâll make him feel both good and desirable and emotionally uncompromised, not unlike what alcohol does, as he says he likes having his fine senses dulled in the changeling chapter. Idealization is twisting the image of something in your mind to be closer to what you want, but usually mostly desire on a more subconscious level, to be true, almost a wish, sometimes but not always hand in hand with idolization which is to put something on a pedestral. Idealizing things that are easier to reconcile with mostly, in Marcilleâs case: itâs easier to believe that Chilchuck is very young and itâs easier to stomach that Falin hasnât aged much, it's easier to believe Falin is an angel who can do no wrong and if she left with Laios it's not that she chose to leave Marcille, and it's easier to believe Chilchuck is just a moody closed off youngster than an embittered old man. It can be done to people as much as concepts, like the idea/plan to give everyone a 1000 years lifespan, surely that'd do really well and everyone would love it. Wants and desires are both very often about changing reality after all, wether it be your situation or an event in your past or a law of the world like death, but wants are mostly through actions and since desires are more subconscious it can lead to self-delusion easily. Like with succubi, wants engage with your rationality so they target desires instead. The demon's strategy isn't too far off, either, feeding into both and using underlying desires to manipulate its victims. Dungeon Meshi is in part yes about resisting desires, the irrational cravings, mostly through the character of the demon. I mentioned needs earlier, and to ideals vs wants we also add vs needs, both emotional and physical, and needs alongside wants are what Dungeon Meshi wishes to promote for a healthier person, Dungeon Meshi which illustrates very well with the dungeon lords that you can be a slave to your desires.
The parallel between succubi and demons is intentional. The demon is in fact the origin of the succubus myth in-world. No wonder they operate similarly in many ways- the succubi are in a way a more simple straightforward version of the demon, with less convoluted strategies and less intricate manipulation.

Of course the succubus each character sees does say something about their characters, but what Iâm saying is we shouldnât assign choice or morality to it as if it wasnât an ethereal monster whose whole biology is focused on being able to freeze people through appealing to desires, much like how we canât fault people for falling for demonsâ manipulations. Like thatâs their WHOLE thing and they use mind control through enticement shenanigans. I know people sometimes fault Chil for his succubi and if you want hereâs my stance.
Point of this whole thing is, people can rationally choose things that are different from their deeper desires, like in truth Falinâs safety being more important to Laios than becoming a monster. Like how Marcille stayed with Chilchuck to strategize instead of wanting to give good faith to Kabru. Yes, this is the main point I'm coming at with this section lol. Marcille idealizes and idolizes the figure of a perfect prince charming, undoubtedly! But when it comes to what she actually wants, not in some ideal fantay world but in reality, she knows Chilchuck and her imperfect friends are some of the best she could ask for. She's content with them as they are. She would choose a flawed reality over a perfect fantasy.
That's a big part of what her dungeon lord arc is about too, all her tendencies to ignore what others want for what she thinks is best for them or thinks is a perfect course of action: accepting that people are complex with different wants, and that something that's a no-brainer to her like wanting to live for a long long time is a solid no for many. And Laios and the party confront her about it, and Marcille, even under the influence of a demon, chooses to accept reality. Chooses to accept that there are some things that, even were she to be able to, she shouldnât change after all (even for stuff thatâs not forcing everyone to live for a millenium, like bringing Falin back from the dead is something that the party and Marcille had to come to terms with maybe not working and the way they went about it was self-centered). She chooses to come back to herself and the party, to accept the world as it is even if flawed and sometimes hurtful.
And hm, I wonder if Chilchuck had any role in the lead up to that particular decision... I wonder if Chilchuck was a major influence in teaching Marcille that the world isn't perfect and her internalizing things that were outside of her bubble!! I wonder if Chilchuck was directly what made Macille turn towards her party and thus start thinking of giving up on being dungeon lord!! Joking, joking, of course it does. To be continued, see you in the princess imagery section at the end of this essay.
Essentially, this section is to show that: 1) despite what her succubus may suggest, she has indeed grown by that point in the manga compared to pre-canon and her overly idealistic simple black and white vision of things, and it doesn't prove the âchoosing her friends over a prince thingâ wrong, and 2) despite how deeply ingrained romanticism is in her and how it calls out to her, she still has chosen and continues to choose reality and her friends over it. How fantasy is important to her and how much she loves it, and her having the will not to mindlessly succumb to it coexist and it's that resistance against fantastical ideals that speaks of her as a character so much.
And what does that mean, for Chilchuck? For him and Marcille?
Deconstructing realistic romance AKA compromising between romanticism and reality AKA Chilchuck Tims vs Prince Charming part 2
So what weâve covered so far is that 1: idealization is something that Marcille does a lot, including concerning Chilchuck, 2: the prince/knight figure is meaningful & important to her, 3: Marcille isnât a lost cause on it, and for instance, much like how she stops harping on Namari after Chilchuck explains to her how professional reputations and networking work, he can change her mind on things.
Letâs get back to their prejudices of each other for a bit. You might have to zoom in for this one.
Her shapeshifters of both Chil and Laios are influenced a lot by looks and impressions. Sheâs very adamant about Laios and Falin not looking alike at all, for one. Marcilleâs view of Chilchuckâs lockpicks are surprisingly accurate. Meanwhile, despite their first big relationship moment during canon being about how heâs glad to have her and her skills for the dungeon dive, he still ridiculizes her magic somewhat with the crude spellbook. Sheâs still silly and tease-worthy to him, even while he praises her like in the good medicine chapter with Leed he says it himself in the same breath. Silly, or "ridiculous" depending on the translation, is somewhat ambiguous, but I assign it the meaning of 'thoughtlessly reckless', like how again in the good medicine chapter when he's saying this he's referring to Marcille's future job prospects, because law and career are important to conform to for him. Despite this, their shapeshiftersâ behaviors are accurate, although Marcilleâs Chilchuck is nicer and less bitterly reclusive. Note how it's Marcille's chilchuck that makes it furthest and how why she thinks hers is the true one is that her Chilchuck "looks less mean"- this is what I mean when I say she idealizes him and sees him as a little angel, along with his fluffier hair it gives us the perspective of why she'd find him so hair-ruffable and why she likes sticking to him so much, I suppose.
Marcille's arc of not seeing Chilchuck for what he is has steps, it's not like Senshi who does an 180 seeing his changeling. There are a couple of important moments for it that tell us her progress and changes her perspective: Him telling his age -> the shapeshifters (our best look into an objective assessment of her perspective) -> reveal that he has a wife and kid(s) (fully shattering her denial) -> seeing him as a changeling (true reckoning. Putting the nail in the coffin of what reality is) -> bicorn chapter (acceptance. Internalization)
You might notice that the explanation for Marcilleâs Chilchuck is "Even though sheâs been told heâs an adult, deep in her heart she still doesnât get it", and a fantranslation translates it as "Understands heâs supposed to be an adult, but hasnât quite come to grips with the fact internally". This definitely implies her arc of growing to see him as an adult had already started by then. Especially if we compare it to Senshiâs more intense babyfied Chilchuck. This goes back to what I was saying about Marcille watering down people for the sake of aesthetics, some rational part of her knows heâs an adult, but itâs emotionally that she struggles to reconcile the fact with her perspective. Itâs actually pretty ambiguous when she first starts considering he might be an adult. If by this point she was already digesting it, then I think it mustâve been when he told the party his age. Itâs not unsimilar to rationally knowing Falin is an adult at 23 even if it doesnât feel like it to her, or post-canon calling the Touden parents kids even though obviously sheâd know they arenât actually, itâs classic longlived race patronization. Heâs older than Falin, by 6 whole years, and even Marcille isnât that blind to what that'd mean. Wouldn't marcille also have a problem with child labor otherwise? There's also how Marcille pre-canon shortly speculated Chilchuck was in love with Namari in her Adventurer's Bible extra. She for sure has witnessed a lot of half-foots walking around, probably even drinking at taverns. She knows, on some level. Chilchuck even does a whole rant after they react going on "this is why long lived races are condescending assholes". So thatâs my bet, "Is he an adult?" "Well yes but actually no" (Chilchuck), "Iâm an adult now Iâve grown" "Awww youâll always be like a kid to me!" (Falin) Depending on the dub and interpretation, I know for example that when I made my family watch the anime they thought Marcille "See? You're just a kid!" after he said he was 29 they saw it as teasing and playful, unserious, or even disappointed, implying she'd have thought he was older than 29. It's actually ironic how someone as developmentally atypical as Marcille, whose physical and mental growth was unpredictable, unsynchronized and messy, would judge others by appearance and age so much. But well imo appearances are important to her so in that way, she especially judges those because she had to live through being judged by those standards as well. She puts elven standards on everyone the same way she does with beauty standards, so age is included in that.
Marcille here is struggling with dissonance, it's why she "hasn't come to grips with the fact internally". And this all makes sense for the arc that sharing things about himself is what opened the gates of being understood better. Point is, her vision is influenced by her own feelings of how things should be like, veiling herself to the reality of things.
And notice the point that the problem her lack of rationale when it comes people- Chilchuck regularly makes her prioritize rationality over feelings, and well thatâs somewhat his whole schtick when it comes to debating philosophy. With Namari and how her leaving the party and not returning is reasonable even if it feels wrong, just like the "donât trust someone just because they seem well-meaning and generous, strategize instead of swooning", and ironically also the "it's important to take in mind how things like touch when healing can affect parties and create love triangles" lol, "don't be emotional, and also remember people being emotional will stirr up shit". Since sheâs someone pretty swayed by feelings, it balances her out. Ultimately, if we consider the Dungeon Lord arc her culmination, itâs Chilchuck who ends her arc by meeting her halfway through appealing out to her feelings, but thatâs the flipside of the coin of their arc, and itâs her willpower to face reality that saves them so I donât think that contradicts that Marcille had to do her half of the journey & comprise.
I would argue there are many hints of Marcille knowing on some level he's an adult throughout early canon. Not just seriously calling him the most mature of the group, but her behavior at the Golden Kingdom's too for example. Would you act all shy asking a kid to sleep in his bed, especially one she's always felt so comfortable trampling the boundaries of and touching casually? Idk that's weird. She's asking to sleep in his bed because by her own admition it'd make her feel more comfortable. Chilchuck is safe to her and she feels shy implying it and asking for a favor like that. Shy that he'd find her silly for it, and/or shy that this might be inappropriate according to etiquette and in other contexts. To me this feels much closer to two peers, like how in the mandrake chapter she wanted validation from him too, and yes she still infantilizes him and emasculates him into someone who's harmless in her mind- not just someone who wouldn't hurt or take advantage of her, because she knows that, because Chilchuck does protect her (more on that later!!).
He's not heroic, but he's brave, when it matters. He's mean and rude, but also caring. He's responsible, even when it means going the unpleasant route. The aesthetic doesnât fit the role, but the actions do.
He keeps claiming heâs a selfish coward whoâll be the first to dip in a fight, and yet heâs always, consistently pulling her out of danger, or specifically calling out to Marcille when danger strikes. And I think itâs because of the nugget of info we get in the adventurerâs bible that her stamina and athletics are bad, in canon he does call her clumsyhead like once but it never felt enough for me to deduce that on its own personally. So then the reason why heâs always targeting her, beyond the reasoning that sheâs the healer thus the most important to keep alive (which he brings up in the rabbits chapter), he takes it upon himself to help her, save her and pull her away from danger because sheâs clumsy. Sheâs not defenseless, sheâs known to use explosions, and still he feels the need to save her and through the manga heâs even died trying to pull her to safety one and a half times: dungeon rabbits + the drowning- they didnât die in the latter though itâd have gone that way if it werenât for the water bursting out just after, and that situation was especially hopeless regarding Chikchuck being able to do anything to save her at all, yet he still tried.
A little knight in shining armor, a little noble hero, a little prince charming innit?
Chilchuck IS all show and no talk- and she knows the value of that!!! It's why despite all his sour demeanor she respects him both professionally and as a smart guy she can trust, why she feels safe with him and wants him by her side when strategizing or even sleeping. The aesthetic doesnât fit the role, but the actions do. Fantasy vs reality!!! He teaches her how to face reality both with his words and actions, through the contradictions of him, his caring behavior and bitter words, his old manners and young looks!
And actually let's TALK about that drowning scene hello. There, in the collage above, in the bottom left. The context of that is: This is after the demon leaves when the dungeon collapses, the dungeon gets flooded by water and they go under, with no sense of where or how there could be an exit to this. 1: Since the dungeon is collapsing and reviving someone only works in dungeons, there is no guarantee that Marcille or anyone would be able to revive someone during or after this, NONE. 2: He is risking his life for her, he is STRAIGHT UP playing his life on this choice, action hits and shit gets more serious than it ever has, and he yet does it anyways. Perhaps it's the gravity of it that pushes him to make this choice, that this time if someone dies it's for real and he can't accept that, but either way his choice is made in a split second, he prefers dying trying to save her than living without saving her. He is fighting for scraps of hope, seconds more of holding onto life. Which, 3: This situation is HOPELESS. In the end yes they end up being spat out by some exit out the dungeon with the strenght of the flood, but there was no way to know this would happen, and like we see in the third panel Chilchuck and the others actually lose consciousness. That's for "a way out of this", but even moreso, what is he hoping to accomplish? He's small and weak like he always reminded the party in fights, he CANNOT PULL HER UP TO SAFETY, HE CANNOT PULL HER AT ALL, WE SEE HIM STRUGGLE TO AND FAIL. HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT HE STILL TRIES DESPITE THE RISK. You might also say- haha!! You might also say that this is a show of optimism from him!! You could say that after Marcille changed him, pushed him to have more hope in him, he now has the strenght and will to hope that this might do anything, that this might save her! A little similar to the situation with his wife actually, the point is that the chance is worth taking even if it might not turn out like hoped for- the point is that it's always worth trying and keeping hope to fight on, there is risk in being vulnerable and reaching out to his wife yes, there is risk, as with jobs, as with finances, as with anything- It's not that you'll never fail, but you have to not give up when you do- there's a risk but you can't just shut yourself off to the world and to relationships, you can't suddenly care about nothing! That's Chilchuck's arc! And maybe it's because his arc of becoming more hopeful and open yourself to caring centers her that it's her he latches onto here and not Senshi and Izutsumi who are equally in trouble here, maybe it's because he knew her longest or because he still feels this sense he has to look out for her like always, or because he trusts her to breathe underwater least, I don't know, but it's what happens! And listen, by all intent and purposes it was a hopeless situation, they were on the verge of drowning but he still fights to save her, and everything looks lost for a sec, but then the water current miracurously spits them out of the crumbling dungeon. He gets up and he runs to marcille fearing she's hurt but no, they're saved, she's fine, they're all alive and out of danger. It worked out. Having hope was right.
They make me ill I tell you. Like what the HELL, am I supposed to NOT go crazy when this happens??! What if they were the meaning of life what if their arc was about cracking the balance of living and loving healthily and cracking the code of life. Okay. Okay okay okay so anyways so
He can be quite self-sacrificial and noble! Always looking out for others, and giving Marcille particular attention in that regard, likely in part due to her being clumsy in his eyes and her being the healer aka their token of safety.

Sit your ass back DOWN you are in no state sir. Despite her biases Marcille is still observant, she still loves dissecting people like in that pre-canon party relationships chart in her extra, she's still the one to say "Chilchuck is the most mature here". Marcille still notices things! She has an interest in people and Chilchuck is someone she especially likes to "study". She read him like a book in the bicorn chapter, and if she was able to itâs that she looked, she remembered, she saw. The way he doesnât like waiting on people, that heâs very reserved with feelings, the way he often doesn't pick up on others' and even his own- It all comes through in her quote unquote analysis of him, what married life with him would be like and how he reacted to his wife leaving.
Point is, Chilchuck is very harsh on himself, but there are gems inside of him, there is gold hidden away if you dig at his heart. And point is, Marcille is good at highlighting those. And besides, isnât humility a mark of heroes?
Okay. Sooo there's not that much to say about the changeling scene actually, for both Senshi and Marcille, the chapter just previous where Chilchuck reveals he has a wife and kid is what fully reckons them with how Chilchuck is a fully fledged adult, and for both of them seeing Chilchuck as a tallman is the final nail in the coffin. With Senshi it's a rather fast 180, and he mourns the sweet kid image he had of him where he poked his cheek and ruffled his hair, but for Marcille it's just an extra "he's really really REALLY really not a kid. Really". It has a bit of a reversal of Marcille and Chilchuck's dynamic, since now he can manhandle her instead of her manhandling him. This is a rather pleasant experience for him from what we can tell, whereas Marcille is struggling to keep the party's walking pace and complains about the heat implying half-foots are more sensitive to temperatures, Chilchuck finds having his senses dulled relaxing, has no problem of the sort Marcille is having AND! And! He can pull her around. The fight with gargoyles happen and he's pulling her arms, picking her up, he even throws her both before it and during the fight, he has the physical power to push her away if he wants to and also to pull her out of danger- the way he later tries to in the rabbit chapters and with drowning, but also when the Faligon reveal happens. He still doesn't look like a knight in shining armor, and he still doesn't have the demeanor of one, but he has the most power to protect her than he ever has. Anyways so yes, further "oh Chilchuck is an adult. And he's kinda knightly and can protect me wow. And also ugly not at all like elven beauty ewwwwww. I won't be able to unsee it now if I try to ruffle his hair after this".
Itâs always a question of seeing more facets to someone and slowly digesting them and internalizing them, like Kui puts it herself in the shapeshifter explanation for Marcille's Chilchuck. And this illustrates a bit what I was saying in the section about Dalclan and tropes and people being "digestible" to her. She has to get used to the idea first and it's a slow process.
And during the succubus chapter as well, right after the bicorn chapter where she fully accepted Chilchuck as an adult, Marcille doesnât falter when sheâs confronted with seeing Chilchuck as, for a lack of a better term, a sexual being. She even cracks a (albeit sfw) playful quip about it, about them being all blondes. I suppose with the crass jokes he made like during the frog comic that might have prepped her for it lol.
And on that topic... We're here guys. The holy grail of Marcille and Chilchuck.
đĽThe bicorn chapterđĽ
The chapter finishes both Marcille and Chilchuck's arcs about harmful idealization vs not being a doomer, so to speak. It's the culmination, the ultimate balance found, the moment where the lesson gets fully internalized on both sides at the same time. It is a MASTERCLASS in how to do relationships arcs and character studies.
Chilchuck starts the chapter being dismissive of Marcille and her interests again, it opens with a narrated bit about his bad experiences with romance in past parties and he admits he has contempt for people who find the topic of love fun. He sees her still a bit as both a fly circling around him and a venus fly trap waiting for the opportunity to pounce on him and not let go until he spills everything. He ends it though, willingly giving up information on him in conversation with her, opening up, and appreciating her perspective on his romantic troubles.
Marcille starts the chapter having mostly processed that he's an adult, asking him about his wife, but she's still Weird about him and his personal life- and okay, that doesn't quite change, but something does change- everything changes for a moment, in fact.
And what's the catalyst? The cataclysm, even? Chilchuck lies and says he cheated on his wife.
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We get to see live Marcille's esteem for Chilchuck plummet and freefall to the ground. And Chilchuck often acts like hassling and teasing between them is onesided, that she's always the one harassing him, but since early manga Chilchuck has always liked to tease her every opportunity he gets, often initiating interaction just for it... During half of this chapter Marcille is giving him the cold shoulder and we get to see that he misses her, we get to see her fully shut down the (racist) joke he throws at her and see him be SHAKEN over it. He wasn't expecting his lie to tank his reputation and relationship with the party members this much, maybe because before whenever he called himself selfish and cowardly no one seemed to think less of him for it, and he's at a loss for what to do like we see here. He misses their friendship. He's always said he didn't care for having a friendship with them all and whatnot, but here we see him grapple of the aftermath, of knowing what it would be like without them as friends, without them at all.
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And like with his wife, he has a choice to make. Be passive and spiteful and do nothing, or be vulnerable and communicate to win them back over. And this time, after a manga's length of learning little by little to be more open (and literal coercive torture) he chooses to do it, to try and clear up the misunderstanding.
And listen, on Marcille's end this was NEEDED. He DROPS in her eyes to deserving no respect- but even in these times we see her be jealous of Chilchuck opening up to Senshi, implicitly still caring about what he thinks of her, and most importantly that she does still care about him himself when the bicorn breaks his arm and she runs to his side to heal him, worried. Why was this needed? Because Marcille was forced to have her full, complete vision of Chilchuck shattered. Not only is Chilchuck not little in her eyes anymore, but he's also no angel. He can MASSIVELY- borderline unforgivably- mess up. He is an adult who can royally fuck up, even be immoral. She calls him a depraved adult man.
It sounds negative, but what this does is actually strip him from any idealization and infantilization in her eyes. Is there something more adult than adultery? Is there something less honorable, less wholesome? In this chapter Marcille is forced to reconcile the Chilchuck she knows with this man who did something vile to his wife, even the mother of his child.
And then Chilchuck clears things up, he takes the risk of an argument and actual rejection and sacrifices the secrecy around his family situation to make up with her. And it works. Instantly.
And so he goes "Okay so one day she left me and I have no idea why, probably for no reason. The end. What a petty thing to do am I right. We'll probably never talk again." and she's like "Bet? Actually I have several ideas as to what could have happened and you WILL listen."
(For a Chil & Chilwife analysis go over here instead btw.)
She was always perceptive, but she always had a bias that made her vision of others flawed. Her lens of novel worlds and narratives. Remove, or at least shift that bias in a productive direction, and you get a strength rather than an hindrance. The skill of self-inserting (literally. The half-foot depicted as his wife is even literally Marcille a a half-foot, and his child looks just like him, to show just how good her imagination is lmaoo) Marcille is such the "If I wanna hit the ball⌠I must become the ball" type. As proven by how she controlled her familiars in the hypogriff chapter. "If I were your wife Iâd be overjoyed to go out with you and would get myself prettied up while you complain about me taking a long time, your friends would tell me that Iâm cute and nice and thatâd make me happy, but Iâd also be sad because you wouldnât tell me that you love me enough. Then I'd leave to test your love, and you're failing that test rn but if you came back to me even after a long time I'd take you back for sure." And see these! See Chilchuck frowning there in how she thinks of him, how he gets peeved when she takes time to get ready.

No because, this means everything. Marcille started out the manga thinking he was just a kid with a party pooper attitude and even in the shapeshifter chapter where sheâs more coming to terms with her having been wrong about him, her shapeshifter of him is sweet and cute and nicer like "No the REAL Chilchuck is much less nasty! âşď¸". But in the bicorn chapter it all comes to a head!! Learning that "Chilchuck cheated on his wife" made her esteem of him tank to rock bottom almost, finally acknowledging that Chilchuck can both make adult mistakes and be significantly flawed. But then! The chapter ends by him opening up which in turn make her esteem of him comes back up, but things have changed, still. What she does with her "virtuous husband" bit might seem like idealization again, and she is being optimistic about the wife'smotives, but sheâs not making him into something heâs not! She recognizes his flaws (embraces them even.) Like how as the wife she thinks of an angry/frowning chilchuck, how he complains about waiting on her, which he's also done to Marcille before...

Even the way she says "he wouldn't say that he loves me enough" IS DIRECTLY SOMETHING FROM HER OWN EXPERIENCE FROM THE MANDRAKE CHAPTER. Because then she wanted to hear from his mouth with his words that he does value her, that he does appreciate her, that she's not a burden to them! She knows how it can feel like he doesn't appreciate you even when he does, and how insecure it can make someone! Now when she flavors things, she takes the embellishments from her own experiences instead of from novels! Reality, too, can be romanticized without becoming pure fantasy. Fantasy doesn't have to be dry and bitter, it can be beautiful and fun, too. Her "if I was your wife, life would be something like this and I'd feel like this" is truly based on her own perspective and feelings- her empathy and interest in others is not a weakness like Chilchuck thought, it's borderline a superpower.
She doesn't just keep his flaws in mind, she also hypes up his qualities!! He is virtuous, bicorn approved, devoted even after separation!! And that hyping up, and optimism that things wouldnât necessarily go bad if he tried to mend things with his wife, really gave him hope, and also finished up his arc about optimism not always being bad, sometimes even being necessary.
She inspires him to think that things can work out, that he can still be pleasantly surprised even with all his bitterness. After all, he opened up to Marcille and they talked just now, and she forgave him and they made up, didn't they?
And he must have never quite let go of all hope, must stil lhave some left in him hidden somewhere, because in all those four years of separation never has he stopped calling her his wife in present tense, because even after all of them he has stayed faithful and never moved on.
And all of this with the chapter ending with Chilchuck eating a sweet and savory sandwich, which he thought would be bad and inspired disgust in him at first, and being like "Huh, the sweetness actually complements the bitterness pretty well."
THE SANDWICH IS THEM. "Syrup in a sandwich? Sweetness has nothing to do in a meal." IT'S OPTIMISM AND PESSIMISM COEXISTING. IT'S SWEETNESS AND BITTERNESS BOTH HAVING THEIR PLACE IN A DISH. IT'S MARCILLE AND CHILCHUCK COMING TOGETHER TO HAVE THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO SAY "It might not go well like in stories, but I'll still try".
Remember what i said about compromises earlier, balance of optimism and pessimism? He tries it, and it works out despite having no faith that itâll be good, and heâs pleasantly surprised. SURPRISES CAN BE PLEASANT! They're not just life-shattering, not just dangerous, it is possible to be pleasantly surprised! And this is why Kui is a goddess of telling stories through food.
Heâs opening up to her, as he takes that last bite of the sandwich, he willingly and easily gives up an information about his family for the first time <3
And this isn't only chilchuck adopting her perspective either, it's him completing it. Marcille still simplified the conflict between him and his wife, still couldn't have the whole picture, still put a positive and hopeful and romantic twist on it all, but she did have a point. Chilchuck reaches her halfway, is inspired by her, but he also complements her, says okay, but also this, also it might not go as well as that, not going against it but building on top of it, not trying to replace it but instead this optimism and cynicism coexisting, joining together. Marcille brings him back to the reality that he doesn't suck as much as he thinks and things aren't doomed, but he also brings her back to the reality that that may not be enough, and in that uncertainty called life they're learning to be okay with it, to smile about it, to want to be part of it, hearts open.
Notice how she defends his virtues directly taking from Daltian Clan for her reasoning, as well! Comparing chilchuck to her novel characters to explain him, rather than overwrite him.
Sheâs such a wingwoman. Such a cheerleader. Couple therapist. Emotional support friend. 10/10.
Marcille: "he has a shitty personality sometimes but if he was my husband Iâd still cherish him" Chilchuck: "damn I needed that" /hj
So this neatly ties the last bits of Chilchuck's reluctance to care about others and being cared about in turn, yes yes Marcille reads him like a book so well that he's left shaking, and this is it, really, their arc is about the balance in loving too much and loving too little, in stifling others with that love and care and interest the way Marcille does vs showing it so little that others don't even know if he cares at all, Ă la âif we want the rewards of being loved, we have to submit to the mortifying ordeal of being known.â
Marcille has a whole theme with the prince charming trope, with her idealization and storybook motif and this is sort of the "Well someone perfect like that isnât very realistic and romance is usually more complex- and thatâs ok and good, and flawed people can still be â¨virtuousâ¨" conclusion. Again, fantasy doesn't have to be perfect to be worth it, to be valuable and lovable and great and precious.
Heâs the devoted virtuous man that she wants not the storybook prince thatâs unrealistic and could crumble like a script at any time. Heâs the perfect example of a flawed realistic but virtuous and devoted and loving family man. Far, far from a prince charming, but not fully detached from it either. Something worth fighting for despite the flawed cracks.
Marcille has this grand fantasy, this ideal of prince charming, a chivalrous gentleman knight, but through canon especially with Chilchuck she learns to not idealize people so much. That acts are more important than aesthetics. The bicorn chapter is all about Chilchuckâs romance being realistic: flawed. And itâs no coincidence that this is what ties their interwoven arc closed, because they learn to compromise, his pessimism and her optimism. Marcille sees and recognizes a romance that is both flawed and beautiful and is able to balance the two decently, meanwhile she convinces Chilchuck that yes it is worth fighting for and having hope for. Repeating myself but itâs easy to think sheâs still idealizing Chilchuck during the bicorn chapter, BUT itâs important to notice the differences with the shapeshifter chapter, where her shapeshifter of him was "cute/sweet" "not nasty", an angel who could do no wrong. In the bicorn chapter, not only does he fall from her esteem a lot because she believes he cheated for a good part of it, thus acknowledging that he can be flawed and adult enough to commit adultery, but also! When she roleplays as his wife, she doesnât erase his flaws!! She knows he has a short fuse and isnât always pleasant, but believes that heâs worth loving anywaysâŚÂ
And see this is the point!! She romanticizes his life, not idealizes it. The difference may be subtle, but it's there. In romanticization there's how Ghibli depicts mundane scenes of daily life, portrays doing chores like cleaning clothes as something that feels good, something worth doing that doesn't have to be miserable. In Chilchuck's life, in his flawed relationship with his wife, she sees the beauty and light and love to highlight so even if the lifestyle is humble and even if the relationship is tense it seems nice, it seems worth fighting for. She's using aesthetics again, but to inspire instead of stifle, the way she uses them to hype herself up sometimes too.
This is it this is the thing! Her worshipping and idealizing the image of perfect prince charming that will whisk you away on an ethereal romance becomes her romanticizing a realistic flawed middle aged dad with personality issues and a failing marriage, that he still is worthy of love and having his cute grand romance story and his happy ending!!
Marcille has a very hard time conceptualizing a point where love canât conquer all, right. Sheâs optimistic and if thereâs a will thereâs a way etc etc etc. Notably when Marcille speculated about Chilâs wife, she centered around the theory that his wife wanted to "test" him by leaving, that she didnât feel loved and left to see if heâd chase after her. She believes that his wife would be ecstatic to see him again and reaching out would make them reconcile and happily get back together, no problem. Chilchuck and his wife have been separated for 4 years. When Falin left the academy she and Marcille were separated for 4 years. Marcille has to believe Chilâs wife is waiting for him, that she hasnât moved on, that she wants to be found. There's a different perspective on time, but there's also... Just parallels. Parallels everywhere. Miss coping, meet coping in an opposite way! And so she teaches Chilchuck to not assume everything is lost before having even tried, and so he teaches Marcille to let go when it's needed.
And please notice how she doesn't even really think his wife may have just wanted to leave him, no the goal was for them to be reunited with their love strenghtened- Combined with her glazing Chilchuck, the underlying energy is that to her someone not wanting to be with Chilchuck, wanting to break off things with him and leave, is unthinkable. For sure she'll be overjoyed to see you, for sure she's just waiting for you to come back to her! Is there a sign of higher faith in him, of higher fondness? There's respect and like and loyalty there. She truly values Chilchuck, always has but it keeps only getting more and more cemented, more and more real the more he opens up and she gets to know him. It's embarrassing for people to know your wife left you? Think again! You've just gained 50 friendship points with your trendiest friend and she has categorized you as a catch!
She specifically loves characters who think they canât be loved and pessimistic and dramatic⌠And story-fying him is literally what she does when she engages with the story of his breakup with his wife like itâs a story to decode, reinforcing the whole narrative about tropes and princes and how he comes to shape her view on them.

Even if the context here is explicitly that she relates! Which, she finds being able to relate to them comforting and a positive point so it being a "type" thing isnât fully off- but this is what I mean when I say she always keeps a film of emotional distance from people, she wants to love and be loved and know people on the deepest level possible so bad but itâs something that scares her too so she prefers to chase after the safe: the unreachable- the fictional. Like Chilchuck. Bit of tangential speculation, but she wants to crack his shell and make him open up- but itâs also easier because he pulls away instead of pulling in/closer so the relationship is fully in her control in that way, if it werenât for the teasing⌠Making her into someone silly in his mind is how he keeps himself from putting weight into her words, how he gets himself to automatically dismiss the wise lessons she tries to instill to him, nope sir he doesn't have anything left to learn, he's an old crouton who understands everything there is to know about this cruel cruel life yes sir. Because trying and being rejected hurts! Because if it wasn't fated to turn out wrong, then it means there was luck or choice, and that makes failures almost more painful! But people leave!! People leave and people come back and new meetings happen and choices are good, choices shouldn't be taken away! Not like how Marcille tries to forcefeed immortality to humanity, as a dungeon lord...
The chapter ends with a panel of Marcille and Chilchuck bantering again, with everyone else going about their business seeming nonplussed while the two are being very loud as if to say, ah, classic them. Return to normalcy, return to their usual closeness and shenanigans. All is well.
The Princess imagery
And now weâre falling into the rabbithole. Imagery doesnât have to be anything more than imagery, but I discuss romantic connotations in this section (amongst the platonic reality of things ofc), you can skip to the conclusion if youâd rather but you will miss important analysis of the dungeon lord balcony scene, a big piece of the puzzle in wrapping it all up. I found the meaning of life & the world in marchil but itâs ok I get it if you wouldnât... We're all built different ig. The character with princely chilvalrous knight parallels in the manga is moreso Laios, but Laios too breaks the trope a lot. Chilchuck gets prince and knight parallels but by contrast instead, in subtext more than any explicitly drawn. There's a lot to Marcille's princess imagery and though I've never fully covered it I try to somewhat tackle it here.
For as much as the bicorn chapter is what ends their arc about balancing pessimism and optimism and finding healthy compromises, the arc of their RELATIONSHIP is in the dungeon lord chapter where he fully opens up to her, inviting her to meet his family and all. AND MY GOD, the princess imagery!!
Listen I am trying so hard to keep this unromantic, and to be clear subtext is subtext for a reason, it doesnât have to be concreticized or "acted upon" perse, but⌠I think itâs there in this scene, at least a bit. Iâve spent a long time trying to pin down what was so charged in it, besides both of them blushing, despite him offering for her to meet his family, despite it calling out to a genuine deep instilled desire in her heart enough for it to work- for it to make her turn towards them, despite the first thing she does after is shower him in romantic gifts, and it eventually struck me⌠Itâs the parallels with other media, with tropes!! This is HIGHKEY Romeo and Juliet type shit!!! The stuff you see in every couple new kinda trashy romance kids movies! A lady, stashed away in a high tower by her lonesome, waiting for someone to call out to her from below⌠Romeo courting type shit with a heartfelt spiel implicit confession from underneath her balcony, offering him flowers because he succeeded in calling out to her heartâŚâŚ.. And they have to CLIMB to her.
Remember her succubus' words? "Oh, princess... I can't believe you slipped away from the castle yet again... Honestly, what in the world shall we do with you...? Come, let us return." Again like with her succubus, sheâs living through a storybook trope but with Chilchuckâs twist, more nuanced and realistic yet just as meaningful, even if it isnât strictly OR at all romantic and if itâs more complicated and less glamorous. Sheâd have to peel the layers to get to the vulnerable truth of it, like anything else. I'm just gonna drop this here...
Doesnât it sound like a proposal. One thatâs both so storybook-like, and contrasted with such real yet unromantic and grounded words, all about the implications rather than in your face grand gestures "Donât you want to meet my family?". They literally have an arc about the topic of romance and this is the climax/pinnacle of it like god?? Iâm not saying this was all intentionally crafted to be romantic but it nonetheless exists in the subtext, ripe for analysis. Of course they talk about planning together his reconciliation wit hhis wife, but the same thing happens regardless, he fully lets her into his life.
And again thereâs something to be said about how that is what makes her finally turn around! This is extremely meaningful not only to Chil but to Marcille, the enticing thing that finally hooks her, gets her to finally look down at them. An offer to meet a flawed manâs flawed family, to help him mend it and its issues. It isnât through the filter of a book, or mere gossip to her, she knows this man and she wants to be involved in his life, to know him and his family herself, ready to meet them and form connections. The clumsy, imperfect reality of a friend telling her heâll let her into the other spheres of his life even if that means she witnesses the embarrassing and the ugly. Itâs vulnerability on both their ends, offered and received, a gambit that was worth taking, both in the moment to talk Marcille out of being dunlord and long term of letting her in to see the deeper sides of him, there are take backsies once someone knows something about you after all. SHE STOPS BEING A DUNGEON LORD IN GOOD PART BECAUSE HE TOLD HER HE'D LET HER INTO HIS LIFE. SAY IT WITH ME, A FLAWED REALITY IS WORTH IT MORE THAN STAYING IN FANTASY!!!! In denial of reality, both that Falin hasn't grown older, that everything can turn out perfectly, and that everything is lost and there's nothing Chilchuck can do to make his wife love him again or even make his party listen to him.
Chilchuck says this after he sees her materialize her parents as doppelgangers. And so he goes on to say- hey your family will never go back to how it was when you were young, my family will never be what it once was either, but we can both move on and make the best of what we have anyways, isnât that what you taught me, there are more out there! Iâm opening up myself to new relationships and friendships because of your pushes, and now I want you to do the same! Life goes on and thereâs always more joy and connections to be had! Stop isolating yourself, dammit!
And the thing too with Marcilleâs arc is that she canât get what she wants. She canât. She canât get everyone to live forever if she doesnât take othersâ free will away, if she doesnât make the world stop for her as she plays god with the laws of nature and the cycle of life. And everyoneâs important to that arc obviously, Falin during the story is the main object of that fear, and itâs moreso her death that pushes her arc along but itâs still extremely influential, Laios is the main one who sees her insecurities and talks her down, Senshiâs always harping on ecosystems and laws of nature and how resurrections arenât natural and is there to offer comfort and support, Izutsumiâs someone new Marcille gets to take care of and her farewell talk with her reveals a lot about how sheâs grown, but seeing this itâs easy to see why Chilchuck is paired off so much with her on their respective arcs, right? The one who tells it harshly how it is even when the reality is unpleasant, who gives up quickly when it's about things turning good for him but who always pushes and fights on when it matters with the party, who challenges a rose tinted glasses perspective head on.
He looks nothing like a knight but he still acts like one. Heâs nothing like a prince or a dashing romantic courting lover but still he gives her a novel worthy balcony heart to heart scene. Heâs painfully real and raw but she does bring that twinkle of hope and romantization that makes the world feel more wonderful to him, but like she tells him, heâs virtuous and he should give things a shot because people see good in him too and not only the bad he always shittalks himself for, sheâs not making it up, he always had that sparkle of knight and prince in him.
Like, giving someone a handkerchief is literally a romance trope associated with nobles and princes. And Chilchuck has offered Marcille his handkerchief at least twice! The second time in the cockatrice chapter as a bandage. He keeps it in his pouch, with his tools, like the most must-have to offer it Marcille at any moment, ha /j. Prince behavior <3 The neckband like a knightâs favour, a token from a loved one he cherishes above all and keeps on himself at all times... Which I'll remind in her Chilwife roleplay she directly theorizes she was the one to knit it for him! Beautiful story tropes shit.
He IS a prince figure instead that now itâs not about idealizing the grand and overt itâs about romanticizing the small things in real life!! About finding joy and beauty in things that seem normal or mundane and uplifting them to make the world feel kinder!!!!
And man this whole angle makes the "Donât you want to meet my family?" "-gasp- I really do want to! -turns away from eldritch power and living in her demon-made dreamscape that can allow her to live in fantasy to instead go back to flawed reality with her friends-" all that more meaningful and striking. A fitting end to her arc, a fitting hook to get her to turn back towards her and tempt her to give up on being dungeon lord. Itâs always been just asking things and anecdotes about him and his family, never talking about meeting them, but by having someone so "fated with doomed love" open up and reach out to her "fated to never love", she opens up too, is willing to take the risk that any relationship entails, the same one that he took by offering it, the same risk theyâre both averse to and scared of, loss and rejection. By actually meeting his family she involves herself in the stories she creates. It makes them real. Sheâs finally involving herself intimately with others, despite the real threat of loss that she will have to experience, wether through time and death or rejection.
Marcille and Chilâs arc, manâŚâŚ.. See, this is why Iâve been tilling the fields of that analysis for months this is why Iâm insane about them, not only is there so much to say but her relationship with Chil straight up deconstructs her perspective on the world as idealized and influenced by fiction and fantasy and optimism. Like, heâs at the core of that part of her arc and man!! Man.
And the way that this is the culmination of their arc together⌠Like the âChil calling out to dunlord Marcille on the balcony has Romeo and Juliette romance novels imageryâ take is one thing but the âtheir arc is about growing to see beauty even in the non-idealized, in the flawed and in the realâ... It makes it so so perfect if she were to lower her ideal from a perfect elven prince to a virtuous halfling man (which she does romanticize).
So she doesnât want a prince, she doesnât want a general, she just wants this guy she knows, this friend she trusts as reliable, who has good intentions even if wrapped in unpleasant demeanor, thatâs all she needs to be content and well and feel safe. By the end, he might even have become something of a prince charming to her, won over with heroic acts and virtues.
After all- Remember when I said she wouldn't be able to be as touchy so lightheartedly as before with him? Well wrong, apparently! This parallel from chapter 23 just before the red dragon fight vs chapter 96 at the final feast confirms that her like of him and behavior with him was unconditional of him being a kid or an adult. Marcille is just Like That and that she just likes him. A good part of what reads as infantilization truly is just how she cares for people in general.
Conclusion
Sheâs afraid of change, so it's only fair that he would be perfect to teach her a thing or two. She had fantasies but he had experiences, both had bias. Their arc is about how bitterness isn't an efficient solution to hardships, about how assuming the worst from everything is a trap that doesn't reflect reality either, a trap people fall into just as much as rose tinted glasses.
Their arc is about how relationships need work and how it's worth the effort! You can overwater a plant but you can also neglect it, to find a balance between each's needs can be hard but is always important. Friendships just like romances shouldn't be taken for granted, and doing the extra steps of deepening your understanding of others and opening to them is rewarding.
Their arc says that love is a beautiful thing regardless of loss. Something both of them needed to remember. Life isn't like a novel. Sometimes an ending ISN'T satisfying, you don't get closure and it might not even be happy, but that doesn't mean nothing can end well, doesn't mean every farewell is bitter. Peace is worth both fighting for and making for yourself. You can't shut yourself off from the world because things sometimes hurt, there's more of life to live- won't you come meet my family? Won't you meet new people, won't I try to mend relationships that are dear to me? My family is flawed, but it's still worth meeting, still worth loving, still worth fighting for and keeping even with all its flaws, no? Elven storybooks don't feature half-foots, but they're worth spinning grand poetic and romantic tales for all the same. Life is bittersweet, and that's an acquired taste to have, but one good to be able to stomach as a whole.
Thereâs a lot of reasons why someone would love fictional characters but be afraid of love in reality, not unlike with Laios' and Chilchuck's own experiences love has a layer of danger and fear because it can hurt to love and it can hurt to be loved. People can leave you, and in Marcille that fear's mainly through death but for Chilchuck thatâs through just⌠Leaving. Through giving Chilchuck optimism and hope, drive to keep going despite these realities, sheâs also growing to be more comfortable with the thought of relationships ending and moving forward regardless. And I do think that was part of her arc of growing to accept that Falin might be dead dead, I think Chilchuck was a big part in that. Falin is the passive object of the arc but Chilchuck is the active actor pushing it along, in a way.
Because people can always leave, Falin will leave to travel the world, but she might come back- and that's okay. And thatâs exactly the thing that the story wants Marcille to make peace with! Falin wants and needs to leave and Marcille needs to be content just taking what she can get, wether it be time with people or the boundaries they set with her. THE BOUNDARIES! THE BALANCING OF OPTIMISM AND PESSIMISM! IT'S CHILCHUCK'S DOING!! "The world isnât all good, but you should be able to see the bright side of what you do get" is what she and Chilchuck learn. To learn that she can still enjoy when she is there, and still reach out to her and keep in touch through letters- to do what you can and to get what you can and to accept that as enough, for it to bring you the joy and peace it can. Don't push your expectations onto others, wether that's being overly intimate or overly judgemental, don't be too pushy but also don't be too afraid and not do anything at all.
In many ways even before, even on the regular Marcille was his gateway into being more lighthearted, always exchanging playful jabs, laughing at her. Teasing her because she teases him, lowering himself to her level until he looks back and realizes heâs having fun with it instead of just throwing jabs bc heâs the master of sarcasm TM.
Chilchuck smiling casually and softly, genuinely, when saying that things donât work out sometimes, is just so powerful. From the man who always assumed the worst of everything, who always spoke of life and the world bitterly... By the end, while saying these things heâs smiling openly rather than smirking smugly. Carrying on with his go getter attitude with a touch more optimism in his heart. Now he's made his peace with life and sees the good in it, still.

It's all about... How flawed relationships with flawed people can still be made into somehing good and healthy that make the world brighter⌠How flawed relationships are still worth remembering and cherishing. Except the winged lion, there to represent abusive relationships you need to fucking DITCH.
Marcille and Chilchuckâs arc is about how in life sometimes books do close and end, but other ones can open and start, and to never give up on that. Peopleâs lives, relationships, these things are temporary and inevitably end, but thereâs meaning and joy in having been there for them, and focusing on the end and the pain and being pessimistic in it doesnât keep anyone safe, not meaningfully. "Itâs not all nice like in the stories. Sometimes, a book just ends." "And another opens."
Dungeon meshi promotes the important of balance for both a healthy body and a healthy mind, and optimism vs pessimism is one such case <3
MAYBE IT'S ALL COMPROMISES MAYBE IT'S ALL SWEET INBETWEENS. Maybe we'll take our vision of what we thought we could be and make something new together! DRINK IN MODERATION!!!!!! SEE LIFE LIKE FAIRYTALES IN MODERATION!!!!!!! THE RIGHT ATTITUDE LIES BETWEEN IDEALIZATION AND PESSIMISM
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To be clear! Does this arc exist in the text, the whole tropes and idealism vs pessimism thing, do they have tangible impact on each other as both characters and narrative devices? Yes. Is Marcille and Chilchuck the central piece of the story? No. Is Dungeon Meshi about this and how it all culminated into a cool Romeo and Juliette scene? Lol no. Chilchuck isn't the most important person to Marcille and her story nor is Marcille the one most important to Chilchuck. Just like the other major characters in the story, their dynamic and progressing relationship is a plotline/subplot amongst others, and the level of layers and subtext it possibly has doesn't erase any other part or subtext of the story. Arcs can coexist. Multi-layered relationships can coexist. Just a reminder that this is my own analysis and interpretation of canon.
Dungeon Meshi is about food and how it ties us to a life thatâs worth living, about unity and trying to understand that which you do not, to not demonize that which is different or unknown, to connect with others even if itâs hard, even if itâs in unusual or undescribable unlabelable ways, and Marcille and Chilchuckâs relationship is certainly a pawn in these themes like every other relationship.
Iâm having fun, but I donât want anyone getting lost in the sauce. It's unfortunate that to many, acknowledging there's any merit to analyzing this subtext is equal to supporting a ship they dislike, but this isn't ship propaganda, this is analysis of canon text where I happen to see a more niche angle. You can disagree with an interpretation without saying that it's nonsensical.
Like I donât wanna say Iâm a marchil truther but if you define it as believing canon does have genuine and credible basis for it then yeah I guess I am. I feel insane everyone acts like they have no chemistry and no material and??? We exist on different planets I think Like I know I implied some romantic undertone but in canon it totally can start and end at two coworkers bonding and getting to know each other better and see each otherâs perspective and it influencing them both for the better. No buts, you can totally do that. Although this plus the crumbs it drives me up a wall when people say they have no chemistry or âhow come people see anything in this pairing?â Theyâre literally a comedic duo? A comedic duo that interacts so so much that gets paired off in scenes, a thematic duo which is even acknowledged and reflected in the animeâs opening. He teases her 24/7 canonically because he finds her reactions fun/cute, the only person he teases on the regular, and sheâs obsessed with knowing more about him and loves being touchy on top of it, plus reads him like a book because she files away every little thing about him in her memory, like if that isnât a strong basis for a ship I think the bar has gone too high. Iâm derailing but yeah just. Do you see all of this? They drive me insane, I feel like Iâm reading the necronomicon when analyzing them, picking up on subliminal messages, I keep always seeing new threads. And itâs been my otp for like 2 years now, idk when theyâll stop having a grip on me but????? Thereâs just so much to dig into with them. There will never be another pair like them. Do you hear me thereâll never be another duo that hits all of these like this, do you see this insanity? They are my lifeblood and if iâm eating up anything them-related itâs because theyâve earned it so hard tbh. So yeah if Iâm ever dramatic about marchil itâs because I have this 100k words novel narrative in my head and marchil is the meaning of life to me hope this clears it up
Which on that note idk what or when my next Marcille & Chilchuck analysis will be. I might very well make a bite sized, summarized version of this analysis because asking people to read all of this is kind of insane of me... And full disclosure Iâm also very likely to edit points in or tweak bits every so often in this analysis because idk if Iâll ever stop thinking about it, and phrasing can improved. This has been in my drafts and outlined more than a year and Iâm literally still adding extra points save me. I might also do a different angle on their arc because here yeah I mostly just dug at the prince trope angle, at ONE of many angles... Like one interesting thread in the manga is Marcille emotionally maturing and becoming more like her mother, on top of her regularly being a mom type friend the way she looks after Izutsumi and Falin, which could be interesting to pair with the fatherhood of Chil. Hmm. Anyways
And obviously do whatever you want, but this analysis and all is why I personally canât stand the fanon that Chilchuck and Marcille have a father-daughter undertone. It goes against their arc together, which is explicitly, literally about her acknowledging him as a man, an adult, about coming to see each other truly as peers and her coming to validate him as an adult, then a father and husband from an outside perspective and a friend, and inversely him coming to not belittle her profession and philosophy. Their whole arc is about learning to see each other as an equal and equally value each otherâs perspective and opinion. You could argue itâs also the arc that happens with Izutsumi, but honestly with her itâs a lot about Izutsumi learning to compromise and others instilling lessons to her onesidedly while learning to respect her perspective and boundaries, itâs not nearly as much of a reciprocal thing. Izutsumi needs to be heard, but she also needs people teaching her and guiding her. Imo it cheapens the arc, the whole point is that theyâre just two people who grow to see each other as equals, that the Laios party is coworkers turned friends. Marcille doesn't need a new parental figure, she needs friends who'll keep her in check the same way she does them.
I do love the way that the manga avoids romance. For every romantic undertone thereâs a platonic explanation that is just as compelling and especially to this degree itâs both rare and wonderful. I think that a lot of people need to learn that sometimes ambiguity is the point instead of something that needs to have a specific objective answer. Sometimes the intent is for something to be able to be read in different ways in itself, or that the complexity of the relationship is canonically something that cannot be put into a neat box. Which! Next analysis I'm very intent on making is gonna be about unlabeled relationships in Dunmeshi and queerness, see you there!
Fast and dirty TLDR
Marcilleâs personality is very serious and direct. Due to this, she frequently gets into arguments with the master of sarcasm, Chilchuck. Chilchuck views Marcille as âthe friend who cannot shut upâ. He is often the practical foil to her more imaginative or idealistic views.
She actually thinks very highly of him! "Heâs usually the most mature one of us" "heâs dependable, weâre counting on him" "No chilchuck is definitely virtuous", and at first itâs also through this twisted lense that heâs a kid, like she has to put people into boxes so theyâre more digestible, tropes, in line with aesthetic, and at this stage itâs hard for her to see Chilchuck as being even able of wrongdoing really. And gradually that gets challenged when she sees that yeah, heâs an adult, and then BAM bicorn chapter- Because by then ok fine heâs an adult, but it hasnât quite fully settled yet as we see in the shapeshifter chapter and she still has a warped view of him a bit, she has an accurate grasp on his behavior yet still sees him as a little angel. And then she "learns" he committed adultery. Her esteem for him hits rock bottom and she spends the chapter cold to him, she still cares and comes running when heâs hurt, but sheâs set on mean mugging him, until itâs revealed that- He didnât actually. Oh, actually he just has family angst. And she starts roleplaying and having her novel vision again BUT THIS TIME HER MIND VISION OF CHILCHUCK IS OVERTLY FLAWED. Heâs angry and his wife left him, heâs *flawed*, but heâs still worth hyping up, still worth having his own romance story, still has a shot of winning back his beloved. She sees him for what he is, human and real and not a carefully scripted character that fits an aesthetic, and she thinks itâs still worthy of love and admiration, worth fighting for.
The prince charming figure has importance in Marcille and Chilchuckâs arc, where she romanticizes things to a sometimes worrying degree or idealize people into something more poetic, easy and digestible (like Chil being a kid, and then him being a virtuous â¨â¨â¨husband), and where she needs to learn to value aesthetics less and actual acts and facts more, be more grounded (like seeing people for what they are flaws and all, but seeing their virtues too, like accepting that people need money and not pulling through on principles of honor or unity shouldnât get Namari shamed) and a part of that is accepting that Chilchuck is BOTH flawed and virtuous, a loving husband that still has shitty moods and fumbled his marriage so bad etc etc. So itâs like, her image of perfect prince charming that will whisk you away on an ethereal romance -> realistic flawed middle aged dad with personality issues and a failing marriage but who still is worthy of love and having his cute grand romance story and his happy ending.
Their arc together is literally learning to 1) see each other for how they are and not undermining their qualities and capacities etc etc while still not leaving flaws unchecked either and 2) opening up to people. Marcille LITERALLY makes Chil open his heart up to hope like idk man. What do you want from me. Heâs literally the guy helping her through deconstructing novels and fantasy and rose tinted glasses and like. Deconstructing the prince charming figure into something more real but still a virtuous husband like KUI KUI STOOOOP STOP IâM ALREADY HOOKED IâM ALREADY-
#Dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#analysis#character analysis#Meta#Marcille donato#chilchuck tims#dungeon meshi manga spoilers#spoilers#The day has finally come#Initially I just wanted to share the kabru bit but then I realized that you need so many building blocks to see my vision oogh#Marchil#Marchil bc the analysis is about their relationship in canon not bc this is a truthism post to be clear. Pls give this a chance#if i've ever managed to amass good faith with you and the topic interests you even just a bit please read this... Please maybe perhaps...#Yâall know me i analyze every second of chilâs life. Would I stab you in the back. Trust meeee#Iâm here for a fun time pls pls no sending me hate just take the hot take or donât#If you wanna know why iâm most brainrotted about marcille n chil in dunmeshi this is why!!! This!!#'what do marchilers see with their special eyes' GESTURES TO THIS!!! Welcome to the marchil necronomicon#started this analysis in january of 2024 send help#Flexing my literature analysis diploma⌠Insane overthinking shit layers deep like we did in college.#Dragging the subtext into the light-kicking screaming#this is so long and wordy sorry i'm attempting to communicate why their arc is so magical to me. Also I don't want my post to be misconstru#Fumi going deranged simulator descending into madness. This makes me ILL and TINFOIL HAT whenever I work on it like oh my god#RATTLING THE BARS OF MY CAGEEEE#it's all connected it's all So Much they make me want to BARF so much my mind expands. help#They were literally (narratively) made to complement each other and change each other for the better I'm so okay#fumi rambles#Man Marcilleâs âfrom idealizing him to liking him even for all his flaws bc his personality is often kinda shittyâ arc#and Chilchuckâs âprejudice against elves and mages into respect and trustâ arc are everything to me#âCome back this instant *princess*!!! Smh smh what are we going to do with youâ reenactment of the dunlord scene in spirit <3
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I love how kid Ichika is on the top of the jungle gym. It shows how when she was small she was more reckless and willing to jump into a situation. She acted first before she thought. She is at the top, maybe because she was the first to go there. Maybe it represents that she saw herself more highly?
But now I'm thinking of the fact that Ichika has lost that trait because of middle school. She overthinks now, about texts, about what she should put in her music and, in the past, about why her friends left her in middle school
But in her Hoshi wo Tsunagu card she is still at the top. She isn't there anymore just because she was someone to act first, but she now has something else that makes her stand at the top still. She is at the top, and most people will notice and see her. Her music skills have improved as well, she isn't as self deprecating anymore. She has the platform to voice her feelings now, and she will connect the world with her most precious friends. All on the jungle gym
Which could mean nothing ;^) but I don't care
#and now I'm hoping they will compare light sticks to a starry night because that would be incredibly SYMBOLIC!!!#They'd be connecting the people!!!! The stars!!!! HOLY SHIT!#ichika hoshino#leo/need#gattocatto's silly posts#gattocatto's ramblies#project sekai#blorbos
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A concept:
This is their entire relationship
"I grew up in a cave and my motto is I DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF GIVING UP!!!"
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"I was raised in a forest but am older with a wife and somehow (?) can act responsible"
They love each other. I feel like that panel is just how they interact ya know? Magic Cave Boy is excited and Disturbed Forest Boy is. somehow still acting responsible.
Also going through the comics and?? Like every frame with them is like this
More of their goofy little dynamic:





Art and odd little dudes from Jojo @linkeduniverse au
#'Hello yes I'm you but younger with less sadness and more magic'#I think Hyrule connects to Time's younger self- magic and excitement. And gremlin.#He subtly brings out the gremlin in Time- and the dad 'shit he's me when I was nine but not nine and ended up with magic'#not kidding these vibes are like %90 of when we see them together#(also I have not played some of these two's games so might have gotten details wrong? idk)#linked universe#linkeduniverse#Lu time#Lu hyrule#I think I'm funny sometimes this made me laugh :P
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a masterful filmmaking moment, in which the audience is placed in celebrimbor's position, where we both feared and sympathized with sauron presence. we can feel his eyes bore unto him, seeking understanding in a moment of open vulnerability and the desire to be heard, perhaps a moment of clarity after being called out for the abuse he laid on celebrimbor.
the camera zoom in, a rare moment of closeness, that lead us expecting a reasonable answer, and then, "you chose it."
the intimacy gone. the camera stilled. the connection has been cut. sauron is now is in the same position as melkor, and celebrimbor is now in the same position as mairon. repeating the cycle.
#the rings of power#rings of power#trop#rop#trop meta#rop meta#silvergifting#sauron#mairon#annatar#celebrimbor#telperinquar#like i'm obsessed with the camera movement here it's so subtle!!!!#the slow zoom in!!!#this was the moment celebrimbor lost all connection with sauron#the moment he realized âholy shit đđđ let me out of here đđđâ#woke up from a longggg nap and this the first thing i do
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moth-flowers #21
#moth flowers#comics#my art#blood cw#autobio comics#pen and ink#Made this one a few months ago a little after we first made out and i was lowkey getting rlly obsessive and it sucked ass#Like recognizing its infatuation doesn't make it go away as it turns out ToT#Anyways. we were fwb for a while and it was cool n chill then they ended it. and i thought i was cool n chill and over it but SIKE#They get a BF and I am consumed by an overwhelming amount of the Jealousy Beast and overall lots of Big Emotions.#That was what the 'dyke drama' post was about btw#Its been a few days I'm doing a lot better and I'm greatful for that. lotta help from my friends by just hangin' out and talking and asking#For their opinions n shit. been pretty good. made a cake and it fucks and im so sexy for that actually#Like damn the person who was lowkey my ideal partner told me they weren't in a place for commitment#And then they get into a commitment. and although i know it realistically wouldn't have worked out in the long-run (I'll b moving. they def#aren't) I was still fucked up about. But I bet I'm a better cook than him. and also sexier and cooler#(IM ACTUALLY FRIENDS WITH THE GUY AND HE'S PRETTY COOL BUT ALSO LIKE. LET ME BE A PETTY I THINK I'VE EARNED IT)#Annnnywayssss. This is lowkey one of my fav comics i think :D i mean i feel that way about most of them.#But i REALLY like the way the perspective n stuff turned out. like ough fuck yeah#And i make references to the last line all the time with friends that I've shown this to.#ramble in the tags#Thank u to whoever is reading this. pls share ur thoughts and experiences! connection and shit is one of my fave parts of this <3
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Just had three days off work and spent the first basically just sleeping and the next two possessed by an art demon. Anyways, here's some screenshots from a scum villain animatic I'm working on
#lake's art#my screenshots#needless to say. do not repost#digital art#svsss fanart#svsss#work in progress#art wip#animatic wip#i'd love to say it's the âcurrent wipâ but actually I've been chipping away at it intermittently since october 2024 so#man drawing all those peak lords almost got me lmao#kudos to anyone who guesses the song right because i can't remember the band name rn#âkeep the style relatively similar throughout the whole animaticâ art challenge or whatever#idk why i decided to go so stylistic with this one but i like it. now i just need to keep it up till i'm done#i did the math and i'm about 69% done. nice#mobei jun#shen qingqiu#peak lords#cang qiong mountain sect peak lords#fun fact that peak lord in the bottom middle is doing the âi connected the dotsâ pose in my mind#which implies that it's yqy saying âyou didn't connect shitâ in response lol#and yes. it's a sqh-centric animatic despite the absolute lack of him in these screenshots. i just haven't gotten to his part yet lol
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