#how to lose weight without excercise

[dinofelissnow1985]

Hey guys, gals and everything between,

On 18th of March i'll post the first Chapter of 'Lapdog', a darker Cross-centric story.

Have a sneak peek:

"His whole body was sore, everything hurt. He felt the cold from the hard stone floor seep into his bones.

When he tried to curl up to preserve body heat, he felt something around his wrists, holding his hands in place.

Slowly he blinked his Eye Sockets open, only to be greeted by absolute darkness. And silence, the only noises he could hear were his breathing and the quiet shuffling whenever he moved.

He tried to call out.

But he couldn't make any sound. His voice was gone.

No. Not his voice. The Magic used to make his voice work.

Now he became aware of the slightly heavy weight resting on his shoulders, winding around his neck.

A collar. A Magic dampening collar.

Suddenly everything came back to Cross. The fight, him fighting Killer and Dust on on his own because Dream was busy with Nightmare and Blue was chased by Horror through the trees. Killer pinning his hands with his knife and him and Dust pummeling him until everything went dark.

Nightmare had caught him, no doubt.

He was in one of Nightmare's isolation cells. "It's something, everyone has to do, Cross. It's a trust excercise as well as a reminder of why you shouldn't dare to anger me. If you make a mistake repeatedly, you spend a few days in a normal cell. If you speak against me without giving a plausible reason for it, you go into isolation, with random meals so you lose the track of time. Should you ever betray me... well, let's say you won't leave isolation with your mind intact. If you don't have any more questions, i'll see you in three days."

Oh, gods, he was in one of Nightmare's isolation cells after he betrayed him, he also knew what the thing around his neck could do.

Nightmare had explained to him, how he would practically gain control over the Magic of whoever he put the collar on. It couldn't be taken off, once put on, and it didn't just dampen its wearer's Magic to keep them from using it. Nightmare could control which and how much of the Magic would be suppressed.

Cross had seen Nightmare put this collar on some poor bastard and just suppressed their attack Magic, rendering them defenseless, before he would set them loose in the forest, which swarmed with hungry wolves. Unable to defend themself, the hapless victim was torn to pieces by the wild beasts.

Nightmare also showed him on another prisoner, how he could cancel out their voice Magic. During the following torture session they tried to scream, but couldn't make any sound. And in the end, Nightmare slowly suppressed more and more of the prisoner's Magic, even the kind that kept a monster alive. Cross was horrified as he was forced to watch the prisoner dust at a snails pace, only leaving the collar and their pants behind. And a pile of dust.

Cross gulped.

He was so dead."

[i-love-an-alcoholic]

Weight issues

I'm at the normal weight range again.

This is me in June 2021, at my highest weight at around 85-88kg (190-195 lbs). S and I were on a trip to Koli.

How did I get there? By eating the wrong things in excess. In my case it was sweets, baked goods, chips and fried foods with copious amounts of mayo, ranch or any other dip. Those types of foods that are engineered to give you a rush while being unsatiating to make you eat more than you need, are aggressively marketed and readily available in every corner store. I was in early recovery, in severe anhedonia, desperate for some kind of relief. I was also encouraged to gain some weight by my healthcare providers because I was underweight at the time (48 kg or 106 lbs), so I just ate. And ate. And ate, until I was obese.

The process of getting over addictive foods is eerily similar to getting over drugs. I tried to change my mindset first: this is my life now, nothing I can do about it, better learn to love myself the way I am. And I really, REALLY tried: I bought fabulous 3XL(EUR) dresses, indulged in eating and kept telling myself "this is all fine and good". But no matter how hard I tried I couldn't escape the truth: being fat is not fun.

I hurt my knee while hula-hooping, got a lumbago getting up from a chair and had plantar fasciitis in both feet at the same time. The dresses didn't look good on me, are mostly unworn and now have to be sold. I avoided mirrors on purpose, to keep up the "mind over matter" mindset. That's how in denial I was.

How did I do it, then?

The short answer is counting calories, which I began implementing to my daily life in summer of 2022 after mulling over it for a long time. It was very simple in practice: I bough an accurate scale, downloaded an app (Fat Secret, because it speaks finnish) and weighed everything that went into my system. I didn't really change my diet at first, just counted everything and tried to figure out the things that were keeping me fat and made some subtle changes in the process. It is also worth mentioning that I did it wrong from the start by setting the daily limit too low, which caused problems with hunger control: I didn't have a car at the time, so I got a lot of cardio by biking to and from work, which increased hunger and made it harder to stick to a too rigid diet. I also didn't pay enough attention to macros, fiber and those other things, which caused some stomach problems. But gotta go fast and get results, right? I lost about 15 kg in 1,5 years, which is pretty good.

I stopped counting calories in late 2023 and focused on maintaining for a while. I had other things on my mind at that time and weight loss was not a top priority, even though I was still a bit overweight. After I started my current job last September I began losing weight without actively trying. It may have something to do with having a schedule again, I'm on my feet for most of the day, and don't have time for boredom eating. Even though I had to buy a car to get around (yes, I bought my first car at 37) so I get less excercise than before. I guess it's true when they say you can't outrun a bad diet.

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[starryoak]

Honestly, all the stories nowadays about deconstructing Superman really make me appreciate Superman more, but I always end up thinking there isn’t enough focus in stories on having the horror of Superman be the horror of being Superman. Like, we’ve explored the concept of Superman being terrifying from the perspective of other humans in the same universe with him, but that’s not the end of it, in terms of horror and deconstruction.

Imagine being a person surrounded by a world of cardboard. I mean, he said it in his own animated series, and…

“I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die.”

I mean, I don’t know about you, but that would be scary to me, to be a person that powerful. Being surrounded by people who are just like you in every way, who you care about deeply, who are made out of glass. You have to live your life knowing your mother, your father, everyone you know, could die if you don’t excercise control at all times. For your whole life. You can never rest. You can never stop being vigilant towards your own strength, because you live in a world where everyone around you will be hurt by you.

You grow up knowing you are something wrong, something dangerous, even if your parents assure you that you aren’t, that you’re a good person, you still are different than everyone else, you grow up and go through puberty alone and isolated while being surrounded by people you love. And yes, you’re happy, but you still have this insurmountable weight of being surrounded by a world of glass and cardboard, that doesn’t allow you leeway. Other children can throw tantrums, other teenagers can punch walls in fits of anger, but you? You can’t do that. You’re too powerful, too different, and so you have to live bottling up every negative internal reaction for fear of breaking something.

And then of course there’s the ethical questions about how he wants to help, how much he can help, without becoming the sole arbiter of justice. Because, he could. He could fix so many problems, but to do that, he’d have to become a dictator, and he doesn’t want to do that. Because, after all, isn’t there that quote? That a man is guilty of all the good he does not do? I’ve always hated that quote because I have scrupulosity and am overly literal, but let’s examine it! Is Superman guilty of all the good he does not do? Because, he could stop so many things from happening! He has the power to! Is it immoral of him to not stop them?

But to do that, he’d have to become the ultimate dictator, to truly do all the good he possibly could, it would make him evil. He is trapped with that dilemma. That if he is guilty of everything he does not do, he’s a monstrous person… and yet, if he wasn’t, he’d be even worse. Because to truly do all the good he could do, he would have to impose his view of good on the world. And that, ultimately, would make him evil.

So he sits, and watches horrible things happen. Knowing he could do something about it. But he won’t. He’s truly damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t, in a horrifyingly literal sense.

I think these are questions just as interesting to me as discussing the horror others feel about him, and I think it should be explored more. It might be because I love grappling with internal morality due to my own experiences, but I  really do think there isn’t enough exploration of how much Clark must suffer due to the very powers he wields.

[stormcloudsandshadows]

Me, who knows my body and pain levels more than anyone: my pain has been flaring up because of the weather. Things cause more pain on average to do because the cold is messing with me

My mom, who heard my doctor (who said I was just weird not autistic even though she knows I am, so why she believes him I don’t know) say I should lose weight one time: we’ll also you haven’t been doing your stretches and you lay in weird positions all day and you don’t excercise and eat like crap

Like. Okay, yeah, I forgot why I was so “irrationally” scared of telling family I use a cane now. Yeah. Doing one thing with a cane to help vs doing the same sort of thing without (cleaning a client’s room with cane vs cleaning my own without)- I had way less pain with than without but I didn’t bring my cane inside because I can’t risk my parents seeing it. I’m nineteen in three days. But I’m “naive” and lazy and don’t want to be an adult or whatever. I still live with my parents. I’m trying to get my room clean because the baby will be crawling soon and my room isn’t baby safe. But all this- ugh. I don’t know. It’s stupid. Scared to use my aid in my own home, and preferring to be at work because at least my client just. She asked why I had it. I said it helped my back pain. It was over and done with. But I don’t even bring it into the house I live in because I know the woman who raised me thinks the reason I am still in pain is because I won’t work hard enough to not be in pain.

Like. Maybe I don’t want to push myself to the breaking point just for the chance of having less pain. Maybe I don’t want to exercise even if it makes my fucked up muscles stronger. Maybe I know when a flare up is because of the cold, I’ve gone through two winters with this pain after all. Maybe I want to eat food that I like! Maybe I shouldn’t have to make myself more miserable for the chance of lessened pain.

I was just trying to vent and complain about how I was hurting more as it got colder. But thanks, mom, for reminding me my family sucks.

We’ve got mom who was super helpful when I first got injured but as time went on decided it was my fault I wasn’t better yet. We’ve got step dad who has chronic back pain and is sympathetic but never actually talks about anything (he’s most likely autistic but it’s still frustrating that the one sympathetic one won’t talk about stuff). We’ve got grandma who is in extreme constant pain due to aging and so since I’m younger I have no place to complain because that’s daily life for her and so many older adults that can handle it less than a hound person can. And then we have grandpa who prays to a god I hate.

So basically? Fuck.

[randomisedmongoose]

Top surgery rant under cut (haha argh)

So goddamn tired right now. Top surgery can go through, but only if I lose at least 10 kgs. Kay. There’s... I dunno. I have lost a lot of weight in the past. It was hard, it was not good for me, and I was on the verge of an ED. The lowest I ever got was still not very good according to BMI. Then I got pregnant, and pregnant again, and then I took antidepressants and gained 15 kg. And now my weight has been laying steady for around three years. I’ve read up on diets, how they so very seldom work long time, I’ve read up on HAES and how there’s so little actual correlation between weight and health despite every doctor being taught that. I know that it would be good for me with more excercise, I don’t doubt that, and I enjoy it when I do it. But I had put weight behind me and made peace with my body at fucking long last. And now this.

I dunno. I may well be able to lose this, and I will have to, because it is the requirement of the only single solitary surgeon in the country who will give me this surgery without a trans diagnosis (which would take me five years or so and give me nothing since nonbinary is not a legal thing in Sweden and I don’t want T, just top surgery). So I’ll have to do it. But I resent it so goddamn hard because it fucks up everything else that was working: my relationship with my body, my schedule, my spoons. Because this shit will take all the spoons, all of them.

What else can I do, though?

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[bwabysmain]

Hello fellow autistics! I need some tips on how to eat weird textured food.

I’ve recently began to eat healthier and excercise to lose some weight(for health reasons) and I began eating Kale. The texture is SO bad, I get nauseous every time I eat it. It’s really good for you but I can barely get it down. Any tips on how to eat it without feeling like I’m gonna throw up? Perhaps I could make some shakes out of it?

[dracox-serdriel]

It’s time we stopped saying people take “the easy way out” in medicine

I’d really like to stop hearing people say “people don’t want to make diet and other lifestyle changes, they just want pills” as if people wanting (or not wanting) things occurs in a vaccuum.

There seems to be an understanding that capitalism has made life exceptionally difficult, even for people and families in the so-called middle class. In the USA, even someone who is financial secure -- has savings, a retirement fund, “good” health insurance -- can be set back financially for years for injuries sustained in a car accident.

It seems to me that most people in the USA know that they’re not that far off from financial ruin. All it would take is a serious enough injury - or, worse, a fight to surive something like cancer. Suddenly, you go from being financially secure to screwed, and the system is set up so that you receive no aid until after you’ve depleted your carefully saved funds (and, in some cases, anything considered an “asset”, too).

All that hard work to do “the responsible thing” suddenly means nothing.

So when I hear someone say that “people don’t want to make life style changes -- they just want to pop a pill and fix it,” I have to wonder if this person is just generally unaware of the lurking financial crisis hanging over all our heads, or has -- for reasons unknown -- decided to persist in this ridiculous assumption that other human beings aren’t actually invested in the health of their own bodies.

After a patient hears that they are either fully prediabetic or are close to developing Type 2 Diabetes, do people really think that they don’t care that they’re about to develop a serious illness that will put them at risk for countless other maladies -- including a shortened lifespan?

Do people honestly believe that these individuals persist in their old eating habbits because they can’t be bothered by eating healthier? Isn’t it entirely possible that they have made “poor choices in diet” to due circumstances beyond their control? More specifically, isn’t it possible that those same circumstances are still beyond their control, even after they find out they need to “make a change”?

Isn’t it possible that these individuals “have a lunch break” that rare actually happens because of the “lean and mean” scheduling tactic their employer uses to save money? (Which results in them “grazing” rather than eating a single meal - a notoriously bad thing to do if you’re at risk for Type 2 Diabetes.)

Or maybe that’s not it. Maybe the issue is that when they go to the grocery store, their weekly grocery budget isn’t enough to cover purchasing “healthy” options -- not if they want to eat for the entire week, anyway.

Or maybe it’s not even that. Maybe they have enough money to buy “healthy” foods, but by the time they get home, they’re exhausted and hungry, and don’t have energy to cook -- or simply don’t want to spend over an hour preparing the “healthy” meal they’re supposed to eat that night when they’re hungry right now. (Or, worse, maybe they’re responsible for feeding other family members who are also hungry right now.)

The same goes for exercise. Do people honestly thing that other people don’t exercise because they’re lazy? Because “all people want to do is watch TV”? Really? Surely everyone must know that the vast majority of people like at least one activity that qualifies as exercise. (And if you disagree, think about it for a moment. Is there anyone you know who doesn’t like a single activity where they are moving? Anything. Anything where you are moving is excercise.)

But -- if that’s the case -- why don’t people in the USA exercise enough? If we have the desire, why aren’t we doing it?

It’s the same issue as eating “healthy” -- you need to have the time/money/opportunity to do the actiivty you like that counts as exercise. If you like gardening, you need to own (or have access to) a garden to do it. If you like running, you either need access to indoor equipment or an area where it’s safe to run outside. If you like exercises classes - like spin class or other workouts - you need the money to pay for those classes.

Yes, you can cheaply purchase some lifting weights to “exercise” at home. Hell, you might even be able to come up with an exercise routine that costs you no money at all -- but, there’s no such thing as an exercise routine that doesn’t cost you time -- which is often something people just don’t have, especially if they have to work more than one job, or if they have children/family members they’re responsible for taking care of. Surely, people must know that some people honestly don’t have an “extra” hour - or even an “extra” thirty minutes - for anything.

I’m also sick and tired of hearing stuff like, “Well, their priorities are wrong. They need to put their health first.”

What?

Tell me, isn’t it “healthy” to have adequate shelter and clothing, so as to avoid sunstroke, hypothermia, and other forms of illness and death by exposure? Oh, it is? Then I guess paying rent (and paying for clothing and clothing management) is part of “putting health first.”

Tell me, isn’t it “healthy” to have adequate calorie intake - even if it isn’t rich in nutrients - so that you don’t starve to death and lose your teeth? Oh, it is? Then I guess paying for groceries - even if they’re not all “healthy” foods - is part of “putting health first.”

This idea that people “aren’t putting their health first” because they stick with a crappy job to afford housing and other basic needs -- despite the negative impact on their health -- is ridiculous because leaving a crappy job (without haivng another one lined up) puts their health at even more risk then it is now.

It’s not that people don’t want lifestyle changes -- they don’t “want” a pill to make it better. The ugly truth is, the way things are now, they need a pill to make it better -- they need the fix to be something that won’t risk their livelihood because if they lose their job, they’re at risk for losing everything.

I have a disorder that’s technically systemic (meaning, it affects all systems in the body), though it’s classified as a neurological or a neuroendocrine disorder, since effects the neurological systems and the endocrine/hormone systems of the body directly.

When I first sought treatment, I was given medicine and some basic guidance on things to avoid whenever possible. Doctors explained to me that I needed to make behavioral (aka “lifestyle”) changes, too, but seemed resigned to the idea that I wouldn’t really bother doing more than the bare minimum (that way, I can say I’m following my doctor’s advice, but still be “lazy” or whatever).

For some reason, a lot of medical professionals seem invested in the idea that patient’s don’t make “good lifestyle choices” because we’re lazy - despite the fact that this makes no sense. There’s no logical basis for this assumption. Yet I see this idea everywhere. As if someone was really, really trying to convince us that other people have poor health because of “poor lifestyle choices” that they could change but simply choose not to. They have to work really hard at it, though, because most of us are making “poor lifestyle choices” not because we’re lazy idiots, but because capitalism has created a system where we’re forced to make “poor lifestyle choices” in order to meet our basic needs.

I was able to switch careers so I could have better pay and better health insurance. And once I had enough income, I was also able to make lifestyle changes. I was able to afford membership in a dojo so I could do martial arts training (which has been the most effective treament for my symptoms, most of which didn’t respond to any medications). I was also able to afford ridiculously high copays for trying so-called “orphan” drugs that had no generic version available yet. I was also able to afford dozens of specialists appointmnets each year to manage my disorder.

As a person who mananges most of her disorder’s worst symptoms by so-called “lifestyle changes,” I’m constantly told how impressed people are with “my approach” to handling my situation. Yes, people have told me they’re impressed with the fact that I am so willing to make lifestyle choices to benenfit my health. It’s very clear to me that these people don’t understand that most people in the USA aren’t being held back by will at all. They’re willing to make lifestyle changes, but they’re not able to implement them.

As someone who has done “lifestyle choices” -- as someone whose life was literally transformed by “lifestyle choices” -- I know how incredibly difficult it was to do. And you know what? I don’t know a single person in my life who wouldn’t do the same thing.

Notice in my story that I mentioned switching careers. I was able to do that because I graduated with a dual degree. I had the opportunity to change not just jobs, but my entire career path, in order to enter a field that has decent pay and health insurance. I only was able to make “better lifestyle choices” to treat my disorder because I made enough money - and had good enough benefits - to make those changes to begin with.

No matter how difficult it was to implement these changes in my life, I assure you, choosing to do it was easy as soon as I had the opportunity to actually choose to begin with. My life is definitely better because of it. But that being said, I am also keanly aware that money was a prerequisite to these changes. Like I said, I don’t know a single person who wouldn’t make the same choices I did, but I know plenty of people who don’t have those choices at all.

It’s shocking to me how people act as if “good lifestyle choices” are made free of charge. Nobody wants “the easy way out” when it comes to medicine. Nobody wants to put the one body that’s their own at risk just because they’re “too lazy” to do anything else. That’s 100% capitalist propaganda.

[futurewriter2000]

Here’s the thing about losing weight.

A friend told me that when it comes to losing weight it’s not about pounds or kg. It’a about losing your mass. I always thought about running to lose weight, or going to fitness but she told me that because I have a lot of muscle mass in my legs that I’ll only gain weight and not lose it. 

She advised me this:

When it comes to eating you can have 5 meals a day. Or three, whatever you prefer. She said when you wake up it’s good to drink a glass of warm water because it regenarates your body and the body makes sure that your digestion is working faster and better. You wait about twenty minutes before you have your breakfast. 

Breakfast: a lot of proteins. (eggs- preferably not scrambled, almonds, oats, tuna, milk-but don’t drink milk if your have stomach problems, ...) 

Brunch: fruit, something not heavy ( like 2 elvita cookies or those weird corn or rice crackers...) . Eat fruit only before 2pm. 

Lunch: everything that’s in the food pyramid. Just make it evenly. And it’s good to eat something sweet but only for the half of the steak, or chicken breast or anything that you have for lunch. 

Before dinner: nuts, crackers, same as brunch but without the fruit.

Dinner: Light food. a salad maybe,  something easy as nuts or gres (idk how you call it but it’s like boiled rice in a milk or smth)

Dinner: Light food. a salad maybe, 

Apple. Here’s the thing about apples. An apple is not a light fruit. So when you eat an apple it needs a lot of time to digest. So if you eat an apple in the morning, it’s going to be digested before you go to sleep but if you take an apple in like 2pm or 3pm or 4pm, than it’s going to be digested somewhere at 4am and that’s just not healthy. It’s a heavy fruit.

Sweets. So it’s better to avoid them but you now we all can’t avoid sweets and all of that bc that’s illegal and all...oh well- but forreal, she told me it’s the best to eat sweets or chocolate after you had lunch. Like I meantioned up there. 

And here comes the classic: Drink a lot of water.

And now the exercise.

So when it comes to losing weight it’s different if you wanna gain muscles or not. Because if you do wanna gain muscles, you’re not going to fall much on the scale. Your kg are going to get higher. 

So scratch running. When you run, you built muscles.

A fast pace walk, rollerblading, bike ride, something that would make you sweat. 

It’s good to do some excercises. choose three for each body part. arms, legs, breasts, stomach...don’t exaggerate tho. You can start off with one exercise. 

OKAY LADIES. Big boobs... yeah..the BBP. Big boob problems. When losing weight you have to be careful for your boobs. You have to make exercises that would make your boobs smaller not saggy.Your choice. There are good exercises on Uncle Google for chest and boobs. 

Start small; Rome wasn’t built in a day.

[comicteaparty]

February 12th-February 18th, 2020 Reader Favorites Archive

The archive for the Reader Favorites chat that occurred from February 12th, 2020 to February 18th, 2020.  The chat focused on the following question:

When applicable, what about a creator’s art might convince you to check out their comic?

carcarchu

I like a wide range of art styles so it's hard to pinpoint specifics but if an artist is able to draw very attractive looking characters (recognizable character designs, outfits that don't look like they came out of 2004 gap catalogue, characters that can still be recognized even when they change their hair style) then i find that very appealing. beyond that how well an artist can integrate the characters with the actual space they exist in is something i find very important as well. a bunch of floating heads can only carry a series so far. if the artist can make the characters feel like they properly exist in the space i think it can really elevate the series although in practice this is something very difficult to do.

Deo101 [Millennium]

For me, honestly some art styles are very inspiring to me and that will sometimes get me to read just because I want to see the art more and learn from it. Things like textures, colors, character design... It can draw me in just by exciting me as a learning opportunity

chalcara

For me art‘s the hook and story the line. Come for the art, stay for the story, you know?

Funnily I‘m looking less for pretty art and more for good visual story telling. I want the art to show whats going on without having to rely on dialogue.

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

I'm honestly very picky about art styles when it comes to comics, and that's a personal issue It has some to do with art styles being attractive to me, but honestly, the most important aspects of a creator's style to me are (1) consistency of style and anatomy, (2) level of completion, and (3) clear communication of what's happening. When it comes to whether or not I check out the comic initially, the main things that come into play with the promotional materials, covers, and/or thumbnails are contrast of the image and cleanness of the rendering. Of course, obviously, my personal tastes play into it. (I tend to like semi-realistic styles, sort of anime-ish but with a twist, or painted styles that may resemble concept art.) But honestly, probably more important than grabbing me initially to begin reading is readership retention. And that's where the 3 qualities I look for come into play: (1) Consistency of style and anatomy: This is probably the most important part for me as a reader. If I can't tell who is who because the characters change appearance from panel to panel, I'm ducking out, because that affects the clarity of storytelling. I also cringe everytime I see a particularly egregious anatomy error. I know what people look like. I see them every day. If I feel pain from looking at an artist's work, I'm not sticking around. (To be fair, everyone makes some kind of anatomy mistakes, but really it's if the anatomy mistakes are really awful to me and aren't as a result of a deliberate style CHOICE. Keyword, C H O I C E.) (2) Level of completion: This really just means that if it looks like the artist rushed through the panels or they were being lazy, I feel like their comic isn't worth my time. I mean, if an artist themselves doesn't care about their work, why should I?(edited)

. (3) Clear communication of what's happening: Once again clarity of storytelling is absolutely essential. If the composition of a large portion of the panels don't clearly show the actions of the characters, I can't follow the story. Aaaaaand as a bonus: Please, please, for the love of all powers that be, please, make your fonts legible. If I can't read the comic without squinting because your text is too tiny or hard to read, I'm not going to try. I have bad eyesight as it is. Take pity on your readers. I'm not going to suffer for your work. I have dropped far too many comics to count because the creator didn't care enough to make sure that the font was legible. And this applies to both desktop view, mobile view, scrolling format, and page to page format. Just.... Make your fonts big and clear.(edited)

sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)

That's interesting to think about how recognizable characters are when their hair style changes. I might try to use that as a character building exercise

Deo101 [Millennium]

Solid excercise: can you tell them all apart when they're bald and naked?

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

OoooooooOOOOOOOOOOHHHH

I

Might partake that challenge

Deo101 [Millennium]

Also it's really fun to draw characters in all sorts of hair and clothes so idk what id do if I couldn't tell them apart when doing that!!! That's like 40% of my art!

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

This just convinces me more and more to do AU art

Deo101 [Millennium]

Yeah aus are another 20% of what i draw LOL

Look im drawing the comic most of the time so I wish to partake in non canon things the rest

carcarchu

@sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD) i've read series before where the character gets a hair cut / dyes it and i'm like WHO ARE YOU? IS THIS A NEW CHARACTER?

Deo101 [Millennium]

Oh another good excercise is drawing your Characters in many different styles and seeing if they remain unique when not in yours.

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

I want to do all of this

This is stuff I hardly ever have time for

So I am extra attracted to it

Also, there IS a time later in the comic where a certain character's hair gets partially burned off

And then he cuts it pretty short to get rid of the singed edges

And I feel like his hair is like 80% of his character design

So I'm just a little scared about that

Deo101 [Millennium]

Also, @Cronaj (Whispers of the Past) , I am unsure what you mean by "readership retention" with something that makes you interested in a comic, could you explain?(edited)

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

By readership retention, I mean aspects of the art that decide whether I'll continue reading past the first few pages

(obviously story comes into play as well, but I won't pretend that the art in the first few pages of a comic don't contribute)

Deo101 [Millennium]

Oh okay, I thought you meant like how many readers have unfollowed or something

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

Nah

More like, "oh cool! Your cover and blurb seem interesting. Lemme check out the comic!"

And then after reading the first few pages/chapter:

"ah... Not for me." Or "Nice, I'll keep reading!"

Deo101 [Millennium]

Gotcha

Capitania do Azar

Ohh I don't feel like dissing particular artsyle choices, but I know a few aren't for me. I'm no big fan of ultra realistic, hyper detailed stuff you usually see in super hero comics (other genres pick that style too sometimes and I still don't really appreciate). I particularly like artstyles that are distinct and recognizable, I have a hard time with stuff from different authors that just looks... Like a carbon copy (sometimes, the style being referenced is waaay too obvious and that is always a big no for me) Good use of color is key. Give me some good values too. I want colors to make sense and I am very tired of pink. I also appreciate consistency. If you give me artwork with a more paintery style but then the comic is cellshaded, that might tip me off. But not necessarily (tho I appreciate inner consistency inside the comic itself). Rushed stuff, like mentioned above, is also not a good look, but only insofar as it distracts me from what's happening in the story. Consistency is a very important word here, because I love seeing a common line that is able to take in all the differences that are necessary in character design and backgrounds, but also make me believe that they all could live in the same world.

Oh! And also: if the artstyle involves using lineart, I am really fond of sharp, clear lines with weight variation

sagaholmgaard

I'm curious about what you guys mean with consistency- do you guys not like if an artist's art style changes over the several years it might take to make a finished webcomic? Is it that it peeves you when the backgrounds are done in, say, a painterly style while the characters are done with lineart? Is it when the artists makes ordinary illustration work in a completely different style from their comic pages? (This is genuine curiosity I hope no one's feeling attacked rn ^^)

carcarchu

i personally really like seeing an artist's skills improve and evolve over the many years it takes to draw a series

even at the expense of a more "consistent" final product

sagaholmgaard

Yeah me too, it's one thing i really like about webcomics

chalcara

Can‘t talk about the others, but I get thrown off when one page is sprite comic, the next painterly, third cell-shaded without having a in-story-reasons for those style changes, like flashbacks or pov-changes. But more commonly, the issue’s the classic „comic‘s usually coloured, but oops, this time you only get the pencils because I had no time to update“. If that happens too often and/or doesn‘t get fixed for the archive I just lose investment in the comic.

Art evolution is natural, both in webcomic and published work with a dedicated artist.

Ah, that‘s another source of inconsistency - people switching colourists or even artists around. Once in a while is fine, but if it happens every month or so, I tend to get annoyed by it. It‘s actually why I killed my first webcomic twenty years ago; it was a collaberation and life kept getting in the way forcing me to switch colourists every five pages or so.

carcarchu

oh actually i have read a webcomic where they changed artist's 18 chapters in. i really fell in love with the magical and dark tone of the original artist and was engrossed in the world that they set up. they had a painterly style and it really set the atmosphere of the entire series but then the new artist had a super clean and cutesy art style and the sudden tonal shift really threw me off. in the long run the new artist was actually extremely consistent and better at actually releasing long chapters and very good quality chapters and the writing actually improved too because of it but it was never able to recapture what it was that i really loved about the original art style. also the new artist changed the character designs a little so the heroine was no longer even recognizable as the same person

since it was relatively early in the series i definitely would have preferred if they just got the new artist to actually redraw the first 18 chapters in the new style just so the change wouldnt be so incredibly jarring

chalcara

Any harsh breaks like that will cause some people to break away from the comic, I found. I dumped one of my favourite-for-years comic because the creator got bored by their main character and completely sidelined her in favour of a group of minor characters I had absolutely no interest in.

Didn‘t mean the comic got worse - by all accounts its still beloved by quite a sizable audience - it just wasn‘t for me anymore.

sagaholmgaard

Ahh that I can relate to. I get super attached to the main character and usually have a hard time getting into any spinoffs with the rest of the cast, even if I want to (and im a hypocrite because i also want to make spinoffs for ever side character in my own comic LOL) i guess if the style changed a LOT from page to page that would throw me off too. that feels like the artist is trying to experiment, maybe making sort comedic comic strips would be more acceptable then? Every style would at least be contained to one strip at least

DanitheCarutor

That's... actually a really good question. I don't really go for a specific aesthetic. Sometimes what's going on in the thumbnail attracts me, or it could be the use of color, the style, a character design. I'll check out a comic with just about any art style. I guess maybe if I have an idea of what the creator is going for with their art? Like, the art may have a lot of kinks, but maybe being able to tell what style they're trying to go for makes me want to check out their work? Honestly, I don't have a really strong art bias, as long as the comic is readable I'll go for almost anything. Maybe I won't check something out if the style looks extremely uninspired... like if it were the most generic, based off Japanese cartoons, style ever then I might give it a pass. But even then I do sometimes check it out anyway, so I really don't know! This question is surprisingly hard to answer! To give my last quip about last week's topic, since I don't want to derail the current one. I feel the creator's personal life is no one's business. I understand if they're a legit bad person, but digging into a creator's life to see if they qualify to be supported is... I dunno. This mindset makes me feel that if someone who liked my work ever tried to get to know me, they would be doing it solely to see if I'm good enough for them, which feels really invasive and predatory. I fully understand most people can't just enjoy something, that's how the world is, it just kinda sucks sometimes. The world kind sucks sometimes. Alright! I'm doing with giving my final thoughts on that subject.(edited)

Deo101 [Millennium]

The question is specifically about what draws you to art, rather than what turns you away so if you don't want to rag on any art styles that's not what it was asking for I think! Though yes it's very closely related (and it's not bad to say what you don't like)

Eilidh (Lady Changeling)

I definitely am more likely to read a comic that has a distinctive style - no particular style preferences, really. Interesting use of colour/value is definitely a bonus. But as long as it's engaging and the composition is good/readable, I don't really mind whether the art is "good" or not.

DanitheCarutor

@Deo101 [Millennium] I wasn't trying to rag on anything. I couldn't specify what about someone's art would draw me to their comic, it was easier to the one thing that might not, but I still said that I may be drawn in regardless. Sorry if I came off like a douchebag, totally not my intention. <_<'

Deo101 [Millennium]

No I know, someone earlier said "I don't feel like dissi g particular styles" I'll be honest I was typing my post as you were and so I didn't even read yours til after I said something(edited)

Just kind of a general thing! Feels like it went to what turns us away instead of what draws us in so just kinda a reminder of the op

sagaholmgaard

Readability is definitely important for me to want to continue following a comic, but what about the art that makes me want to read something...? I definitely have a preference toward cartoony styles overall. A solid character design will make me wanna check out a comic. If the main character has a recognizable silhouette and interesting shape language. I also love really bold lineart, especially if it's used to create shadow and contrast. Interesting color schemes too. I think how the background is drawn can really make me want to read something as well. I know BGs aren't people's favorite thing to draw but to me if the setting looks very well though out and designed, that definitely motivates me to check something out. And awe-inspiring sceneries are always hella cool! I read a lot of things outside of my artistic preferences though, but I think these are the things that might make me pick something up based only on the art itself.

keii4ii

I think I tend to find more appeal in certain compositions, which is a more subtle aspect of style. I am a major sucker for evocative use of backshots/ not-showing-the-(whole)-face, for one thing. Compositions that make full use of the three dimensional space around the figure(s) is another (this doesn't necessarily mean putting a lot of stuff around the character; you can have a mostly empty space and still make it feel very 3D).

(I hope both of those things show in my own works... I just love those things soooo much )

Deo101 [Millennium]

Oh I LOVE when a panel like... Cuts a face. Something about it makes me lose my mind every time

DanitheCarutor

@Deo101 [Millennium] Ooh! Lol sorry about that! I was so caught up with off computer stuff that I didn't notice anything else typing while I was. I haven't read the whole conversation yet, but I can see how it would turn to that. "What draws you in" is a hard topic to stay on. At least I imagine it would be since it's hard for me to talk about.

Ah! I admit I really like shots focused on scale, specifically ones were you can feel how tiny the MC is compared to what the camera is focused on. Does that make sense? Like the panel shows this ginormous thing, and it has the MC in it to show how massive it really is. That's awesome when done right.

Deo101 [Millennium]

Tiny little person. Yes. Very good

DanitheCarutor

Tiny people in giant worlds are the best!

keii4ii

I love those too!

DanitheCarutor

Oh, also this isn't a webcomic, but I've been interested in reading Vinland Saga after seeing this page on Twitter.(edited)

Something about extremely hideous expressions on semi-realistic faces jives with me.

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

What draws me in easiest is the design aspect of characters, environment and the webcomic title! It's a bit of a turn off when the title doesn't look polished. That's one of the main draws for me is an intriguingly designed logo with a catchy name that follows through their chosen aesthetic. I've seen many comics that stand apart from the title image they chose and it's a bit jarring to see! Great examples of wonderful execution of these aesthetics are BlackOut City, O'Sarilho, Sink Your HookTeeth and Shadrunners(obvs there are many more) I have to agree with @sagaholmgaard about backgrounds! There are quite a few creators who avoid them and stick to simple colours and gradients that just dont keep me in the comic- though my fave genres include a lot of world building, so BGs in a romance may not be emphasized as much. Lastly, dynamic character design!! I love a wonderfully crafted cast that allows me to read the characters easily no matter what setting or outfit they're in. Also it's really random but i do love an artist who can draw really good shoes?? That is always a draw in for me (edited)

Capitania do Azar

Oh I meant it in the way that if you spend a lot of time experimenting with different styles and techniques, you'll never be good at any of them. Style and approach changing over time is, imo, inevitable and good :) @sagaholmgaard(edited)

@@FeatherNotes(Krispy) I constantly think my logo looks like crap next to other webcomics', so thank you (edited)

DanitheCarutor

Oh god, @FeatherNotes(Krispy). Titles and logos are legit my weakest point, that part of the comic creation process is the worst! I have this cosmic-horror/fantasy comic I've been developing since 2005, and it took me till just last year to come up with a decent title. It'll probably take another 14 years to come up with a passable logo. Lmao!

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

It is really hard! Because that image/logo and name represents the body of work so firmly, its also got to stand strong with what it's representing and stand up to other titles too! Basically, i like to think of something that will help generate top results when i search on google for the title, which to me helps it stand on its own on the web, and sound catchy enough for pitches in person! I don't want to steer the convo away too much from the prompt, but there is definitely more to discuss about titles and their chosen aesthetics

varethane

@DanitheCarutor have you read Golden Kamuy? If you love hilariously hideous expressions in manga, it seems like it may be your jam lol

(it's also set in a specific historical period and contains a lot of really interesting material about the time/place it takes place in)

Also I feel like I have never, even one time in my life, come up with a good title for anything-- both Chirault and Wychwood are placeholder titles that I used just to kinda name the story for myself, which I initially intended to change when something better came along, and then nothing ever did

LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)

I know I'm generally drawn into a comic if it's just... generally a visual feast? And it doesn't even have to be a beautiful feast - just... a feast! A super intriguing artstyle, beautiful or not, is something for my brain to pick apart and enjoy. Detailed backgrounds, intricate costumes, fascinating presentation/layout... all the way to crazy expressions and fun asides, and even some gory or scary bits to make me go EEK. Basically, if I'm reading it, and my hand is twitching with the prospect of drawing fan art, then I'm in for good.

DanitheCarutor

@FeatherNotes(Krispy) Urg that is such a nightmare! And there are only so many different styles you can do for a logo, and so many variations of words, it's like how there aren't any truly original stories anymore. I got lucky with the title for my current comic, it's the most generic thing ever, but fits in a tongue-in-cheek way. @varethane I've never heard of it, but the face compilations I'm seeing are intriguing! Man, I love stupid facial expressions.

Capitania do Azar

@varethane golden kamuy, I see you are a fellow of taste as well

varethane

(I love it so much)

Capitania do Azar

@DanitheCarutor oh idk about the "only so many things you can do with logos", I've seen amazing things in this world, if there's a limit I'm not seeing it

varethane

(I can always tell exactly when I was binging it because there's a big chunk of my phone's photo gallery that's all screencaps of Asirpa making dumb faces)

Capitania do Azar

@varethane guys shooting each other in the woods? I'm always in for that

DanitheCarutor

@Capitania do Azar Lol I guess? I can't see how you can have an infinite number of designs for writing, while still trying to keep it vaguely readable. But I really don't like lettering, so my imagination is hardcore lacking in that department.

Capitania do Azar

Lettering and logo design are their own fields of expertise, it's ok

meek

Hmm I'm similar to a lot of previous responses where I can't pinpoint a specific style or trend of art work that draws me in because the styles of comics I read differ incredibly. That being said, there are some things that I do look for to keep me coming back: 1) Consistency of style/anatomy: unless there's a specific reason for the general art style to change (not including semi-deformed or chibi versions of characters), I appreciate characters staying proportionate or just otherwise consistent throughout the comic. And art evolution isn't something that's at odds with consistency, it can actually help that by making characters more distinct and easier to distinguish from each other. 2) Potential for art evolution: Almost the opposite of the previous point lmao but if I find a new comic and I see the latest page is of a much higher skill level than the first page, I'm immediately hooked. I want to see the journey. And I want to see how far that journey goes, even past the point where the art "gets good". There's at least one comic that I can think of where once it hit the style that it wanted to, the art has stayed consistent for the past several years but so much so it's almost plateaued and become stagnant. It's still good art, by all means! But I want to see it grow and evolve more. 3) Good panel/speech layout: Okay it's not quite art in the same sense but someone else mentioned this above and I think it's important too? There are so many comics I can think of that I couldn't read or I dropped off at a point because reading was a chore, either because of giant or unsightly speech bubbles, tiny or ill-fitting font, a combination of the two, etc. Sure, graphic design and layout is a skillset completely different from pure illustration, but it's one worth knowing because otherwise you could do a disservice to your art and your story.

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

@meek Seriously, the text is so important to me, and I consider it a large part of page layout and design

meek

Agreed!! It's something that bothers me with printed comics all the time. I've tried to read so many "classic" graphic novels and I just.. I can't get past the giant text boxes with small font with miniscule kerning and ESPECIALLY if they then add color to it. Please, keep in mind your readers with reading difficulties But to turn this into a positive One of my favorite things that also helps make a comic feel more personal is when the creator turns their handwriting into a font or otherwise have FUN with the speech bubbles

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

YES. As someone with bad eyesight, typography is one of my favorite aspects of finishing a comic page.

Deo101 [Millennium]

It also is super important for me with ADHD, reading is hard enough as is! so bubble layout and clarity can really bring the whole thing together and elevate a comic

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

I tried that but got the feedback that my text is hard to read and the way i format my speech bubbles is distracting (: But some people have said they really like it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Though I do think I could have done better with the font. I have good eyesight and bad handwriting do I think i have a much easier time reading weird text than many. Since you guys care so much about text, would you mind taking a quick glance at my comic and telling me how readable it is? It'd be nice getting feedback from random people as opposed to only my readers who felt strongly enough to leave a comment unprompted

meek

Oh man I have this specific panel in mind from some early 2006 Avengers comic of like.. what not to do Basically it was a bright yellow text box with this white/light blue font. It was just. It was a nightmare to read Oh sure!! Definitely send me a link

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

Yep! Send me a link too! I'd love to help you out

I also have a good typography book to recommend if you're interested. I can drop it into #art_resources(edited)

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

Here is link: https://www.webtoons.comen/challenge/puppeteer/list?title_no=290620

Thanks for taking the time to give me critique!

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

The link's not working, but I can probably find it on Webtoon

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

And I think i dould find a typography book interesting, so yes please do send the link

Sorry, i think the link is missing a slash

Did we both delete the link

Deo101 [Millennium]

did we both delete a

yah

i got it

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

Lol

Deo101 [Millennium]

https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/puppeteer/list?title_no=290620

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

Thanks

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

I found it

(The font is a bit small on mobile, but the font is fine?)

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

Wait can we move to shop talk?

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

(maybe we can have this discussion on shop talk channel? )

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

Sure

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

OH LOL

DanitheCarutor

@Capitania do Azar Oh god, they so are! I envy anyone who enjoys that craft, I'm a lot better than I was, but lettering is still so hard. ;v; At least the fancy stuff is hard, regular speechbubble lettering is easy as long as my hand cooperates.

Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)

There's a book I had to read for a web design course I took, and it is seriously a life saver

It put text in a whole new perspective

DanitheCarutor

I do all my lettering traditionally, but maybe that book would be helpful, I legit hate doing it no matter what medium I use. (sorry for continuing to derail the channel.)

Capitania do Azar

@DanitheCarutor i used a website that converts handwriting to fonts + font forge for tweaks to get personalised fonts

DanitheCarutor

I used to type bubbles out, and I've thought about it for my current comic but I mix up words and letters really bad, and I forget to add words entirely while typing. It wouldn't be so bad if my brain saw the mistakes while rereading everything, although sometimes it takes a couple days or another set of eyes for me to actually see them. When I write the bubbles in with a pen I make a lot less mistakes since it takes more effort to write out each letter, also my brain can keep better track of the ones I do make. I feel like that's an excuse that makes no sense.

Deo101 [Millennium]

no it totally makes sense

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

I can't say I'm ever especially drawn in by art? Besides the sense of "it looks like a lighthearted action story and I like lighthearted action stories", not much catches my eye. Though, I will drop a comic if I'm put off by the art. Like I can forgive if some things look janky at the start of the comic, but if that jankiness doesn't improve over time, I'll drop the comic. I'll also drop the comic if the character designs are bad (i.e. indistinguishable from each other, or in rare cases just too gross to look at). But again, I can't exactly say "good character designs draw me into the comic" because a lot of comic banners/thumbnails don't really show off full character designs.

chalcara

Varied bodytypes are catnip for me. And I like comics with expressive characters over comics that limit expressiveness to keep the characters pretty.

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

Oh, definitely agree with that second part. Comics where it looks like everyone has had a ton of Botox is a huge pet peeve of mine

Like, eyebrows are not the only part of the face that can move.

Do more

renieplayerone

Yeah i agree with the janky art thought. I think it helps me follow through the jank if i see that the later pages, the artist has shown growth, and i dont want to force anyone into a "gotta redraw it" loop if thats not something they want (of course everyone has their reasons and theyre also valid af) Ill tend to be more forgiving about the jank if i know its someones first webcomic or first comic in general, because you cant learn how to make comics without actually sitting down and making the dang thing. So yeah, the jank can be a double edged sword(edited)

What super draws me in is comics with a great sense of color. While i love anything vibrant, if the softer watercolors are done well, they're chefs kiss. Prime example of that is Stand Still Stay Silent

mariah (rainy day dreams)

I've been thinking about this question all week and I think I finally boiled my answer down to something short, sweet, and to the point. It's gotta be some kind of spooky and some kind of cute I have a pretty broad range of art styles I like and I definitely also read stuff that doesn't fall under those categories, but I think my favorite stories or artists are some blend of those two things. I don't really have a preference between color and greyscale. Like I definitely love a good color feast comic, but if you know how to use your grey tones or even just black and white well it's just as good for me. Maybe that's also just me trying to justify being mostly a greyscale artist to myself TuT

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

@mariah (rainy day dreams) devils candy would def be up your alley then!

mariah (rainy day dreams)

Devil's candy v good

renieplayerone

Devils Candy is amazing

mariah (rainy day dreams)

I love to combination of cute monsters and action also.

DanitheCarutor

@renieplayerone I'm not sure if it fits totally with your preference, but if you're looking for watercolor Lost Honey is gorgeous! https://www.losthoney.com/

mariah (rainy day dreams)

Lost Honey is another great comic great to look at, really interesting world

DanitheCarutor

It's one of my faves! ;v; There is another comic that was half watercolor half digital that I used to love reading (if I remember right pages set in the current time were digital, and backstory stuff was in watercolor.), but it has been discontinued for years now. It was called Toilet Genie/D00R, a comic about a genie who was locked in a public toilet and was awakened by a pug that got thrown out by her owners. It was so pretty, with such an interesting style!

mariah (rainy day dreams)

Oh wow I haven't thought about that comic in 5 years! X'D I didn't read much of it, because I don't think there was much of it available at the time, but yeah, that one was also very pretty (edited)

renieplayerone

Oh those colors are really pretty!!

DanitheCarutor

Right? Lost Honey is total eye candy. @mariah (rainy day dreams) Yeah, it's sad the creator never got to finish it. I think about it every so often since it's one of the extremely rare (semi)watercolor webcomics out there.

Also I'm extra attached to traditional mediums since I work in a traditional medium myself.

mariah (rainy day dreams)

Same. Got that ink wash/watercolor bias.

Eilidh (Lady Changeling)

My current comic is marker shaded but I so want to do something with ink wash after this one...

DanitheCarutor

Yeah, right now I'm working with color pencils since they're cheap but I want to give gouache or acrylic a try for my next project, depending on which story I do.

Kabocha

Hm, the question is... a lil' challenging to answer. I think in a lot of cases, the art isn't necessarily what gets me, but when it does -- Sometimes it's when someone uses a resource I like/made and I can go "OOOH! I know that thing you used!" Screentones are another one that gets my attention pretty quick. Sparkles... And probably effective spot color use. As much as I enjoy many full color webcomics, there are many that get tiring to try to read for one reason or another (usually it's either a font or a saturation issue - too many similarly saturated colors near one another gets tiring to read). Also, soft coloring. Oooh, just... when the art feels like it ought to be printed on those soft-touch covers... Yeah, that gets my attention. ...and watercolor/inkwash, too. ... okay that's a lot of things that grab my attention, but tl;dr: oh hey look at all that cool stuff that people can do!

mariah (rainy day dreams)

That was part of what was so hard for me thinking about this question cuz really, a lot of things get my attention X') and the more I thought about it the more I was like "I like when a comic is like X, but oh also Y is great and I do really enjoy Z as well!" I just ... like so many things. But I think that's better than being really picky. I've meet some folks that are super picky about art and basically only like one style and I'm just like... you're missing out on so many amazing things!

Kabocha

Right? And heck, even in some comics where the style would normally be unappealing (to me), there's just something about the art and the aesthetic that clicks to make it all work together for that project.(edited)

I do think, though, that there's always going to be a special place in my heart for greyscale or screentoned comics. There's just something about art that knows how to effectively make use of shading and contrast to make their work... well, work for me.

kayotics

Art is probably the first thing that draws me in to read a comic. The top, top tier thing that gets me to pay attention to a comic is really strong inks. I love inking, and unusual inking styles. To those who know me, that's probably incredibly unsurprising. I also love really angular styles. Some other stuff I gravitate towards: cartoony styles, expressive faces, and kind of ugly characters. I enjoy seeing characters that might be described as plain or are drawn in a bit of an ugly way. The last thing that draws me in? Hands. If an art style pays attention to hands, then I'm all for it.

mariah (rainy day dreams)

Does a comic have characters with big, crooked, toothy grins? I'm down for the count X'D https://media.tenor.com/images/618576ebcc4f6d2a12438624be77c54f/tenor.gif

varethane

oh hey, did someone mention webcomics done in ink wash/marker?

Chirault was that!

1367 pages of..... ink with greyscale marker..........

FeatherNotes(Krispy)

honestly blows me away that you toned it traditionally like, all of GJS is inked trad, but to ink AND tone in marker is just.....damn

sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)

I love ugly characters

RebelVampire

When it comes to art, I'd say there are about four factors that will draw me in. First, readability. Can I visually follow wtf is going on in the comic? I have no interest in the visuals if I can't understand what action characters are taking. So the first point is always for if that is true. Second, character distinguishability. Can I tell one character from another? I am notoriously bad even in real life at being able to tell people apart, so when reading for fun, it's super important to me that I don't have to put a lot of effort into telling characters apart (exceptions for identical twins, of course). Third, personal appeal. Do I think the art is pretty or cute? Like, obviously this is subjective so I can't really put into words why I'd find one style appealing and the other not. But ya know, I like stuff I think is pretty to look at. Fourth, backgrounds. If a creator puts a lot of effort into their background scenery, I'm very sold on it. I love beautiful backgrounds, and the effort put into them give me an overall better impression of the comic as a whole. Since it takes some real passion to take care with backgrounds. All this being said, I'm not much of a stickler for art. If a comic is well-written enough, they can fail all these points and I'll still read it. This is just a list of what aspects have to be in the art for it to draw me in.

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

My points are pretty much the same as Rebel's, with the addition of a few things: I adore comics with dramatic facial expressions and consistently excellent anatomy. Also, if the art style is unique? If I feel like I've never seen someone draw that way before? That's ++. So good. I've read comics where I thought the art was good but the story was mediocre, but I've never read a comic where the art met all my points (and Rebel's), where it made me go, "holy fuck," audibly, and then had the story disappoint. Comics where the art made me go "holy fuck" audibly: Excecutioner's Academy: The art is so pointy and colorful and detailed and weird. It's full of personality and life and so are the characters. Warning: hiatus comic ): https://tapas.io/series/Ex-Ac Ava's Demon: You guys know about Ava's Demon, right? With original music and animations ending every chapter, this might be the most effortful comic I've ever seen. https://www.avasdemon.com/pages.php#2611 Sfeer Theory: Everyone looks so different from each other, it's fantastic. Some characters are not conventionally beautiful, yet they're still so appealing. And backgrounds! And a thought-out and unique magic system! https://sfeertheory.com/comic/01-00/ Electric Bones: Backgrounds! Banter! http://electricbonescomic.com/index.php/comic/page-001/ I also loved Prague Race, but unfortunately it was cancelled ):

If anyone else has recommendations for comics with amazing art, I'd love to hear them!

Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)

For me, it just has to be an art style I like to attract my attention. I generally like realistic art, stylised art, or pretty much any style that hasn’t been done to death (like generic anime art; much as I love manga, I’m really tired of the over-saturation of bland and soulless anime-inspired art). Pretty much anything unique and well executed will grab my attention. I especially like greyscale and limited palettes.(edited)

And just to clarify, I do like anime-style art when it has expression and/or skill behind it; just not when it looks generic and manufactured. Overall, though, it’s the writing that’s ultimately the most important thing to me in a comic, so I’ll enjoy comics for their writing even if I’m not a fan of the art.

[autumnleaves-andpoetry]

Workout routines? Advice?

Yeah I guess I went for a run today, cut short since I'm really not in shape and my asthma is kind of a bitch, but frick I want to be more active and get into shape. I really dont need to lose weight, just excersising and toning. How do I get myself to a point where I can run/go on a jog at least every other day without feeling like I'm dying. It felt really good to get out today, so I want to keep that up, and add some other excercises to my routine. Anyone have advice on how to encourage yourself and stay motivated every day? I'm going to start listening to music again while working out and I can already tell that's making a difference, so I at least have that. Thanks!

[egg-emperor]

Has Eggman ever needed or put on a diet at some point

There have been attempts but he can't lose weight from it that effectively because he's mostly unsuccessful with it. When he's trying not to go too far into the 300s to avoid having to get his clothes tailored again, he usually just plans to excercise more. But sometimes he decides to try a diet too after Orbot and Cubot suggest.

He's reluctant towards it and will be grumpy all the while but if it means he doesn't have to push himself quite so hard with excercise alone then he at least tries. Orbot and Cubot help him restrict and eat different healthier foods but he complains about how much he hates it and still feels hungry the whole time.

Because of this, he wakes up in the night with terrible hunger pains and finds it too difficult to relax. He sneaks to the kitchen without Orbot and Cubot's knowledge to help himself to anything he's been craving and however much he wants. He's ended up gaining more through that, reminding him and the robots that it's impossible for him to stick to a strict diet. He's been eating the way he usually does for all his life and that isn't going to change.

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[calorieworkouts]

A woman`s balanced workout plan

Slim down and also tone up by following this easy seven-day plan.

You've determined to begin exercising to lose weight and condition. But like several of us, you're crazy busy with your work, youngsters and also endless responsibilities. Exactly how do you do it? Lets break down some of the typical mistaken beliefs that may be holding you back.

Myth #1 Just work out for hours on end as well as you'll lose all the weight you want.

To construct your health and fitness level and burn optimal calories, you need a well-planned routine that includes cardio conditioning, strength training, proper nutrition and sleep.

Follow a workout program that you like and will certainly stick with.

Consume smaller parts at dishes as well as consume slowly, add 100-150 calorie energy-producing snacks in between dishes that integrate fats, protein and carbs, such as energy bars, carrots with almond butter, and trail mix, always stay hydrated, and decrease alcohol consumption.

Shoot for 7-8 one hours of rest in a dark area at concerning 68 degrees 6 hours or less can actually contribute to weight gain.

Myth #2 Strength training builds large muscles.

Pound for extra pound, a female's stamina development and physical fitness possibility is really similar to a mans. The big difference is that females can not create muscle mass dimension (hypertrophy) the means males can. Exactly what you can do, however, is boost muscular tissue fitness.

Myth #3 The only means to execute cardio is to do HALF AN HOUR constantly and on a day-to-day basis.

While the American University of Sports Medicine advises doing at the very least HALF AN HOUR of cardio each day, you can damage it up if essential and also build up HALF AN HOUR throughout your day at a moderate to vigorous rate. Aim for a minimum of 150 mins a week and as much as 300 as you gradually raise your conditioning.

When creating a 7-day workout strategy, you'll intend to integrate something that's stimulating and flexible enough to change-up every day. Being able to perform the workouts at residence without pricey fitness center memberships or fitness equipment also makes a workout simpler to keep for some people. Bear in mind to begin out slowly, be modest, listen to your body, and never ever overcome the discomfort. Muscle mass soreness is a regular process of getting fitter, yet this will subside as your body adapts.

7-day balanced workout plan What you'll need:

Assorted pinheads from 2-10 extra pounds (use reduced weights initially)

Set of three double-handle resistance tubes (color-coded for easy, moderate as well as heavier resistance)

Door jam to secure tubing

Circular resistance tube to position about knee or lower leg (for lower-body lateral exercise motions)

Optional floor covering (if you have soft floor covering or carpets, this might not be needed)

Optional jump rope (you can likewise simulate hopping rope without a rope)

The trick to obtaining fit, losing weight, toning up as well as sticking to it is really extremely basic: Find an exercise that is enjoyable, reliable and effective.

We have just one body with which to navigate our lives, so keep it operating well. Follow these standards, and start acquiring the body and also wellness you desire.

What you'll do:

Pick one cardiovascular exercise (7 days/week)

Start with 10-minute increments, working up to 30-60 minutes of continual workout. Throughout this stage, 50 percent must be strenuous, difficult and exhausting (i.e., you can hardly say a couple of words without having to catch your breath), HALF ought to be moderate (almost a complete sentence without catching your breath).

Walking

Jogging

Biking (indoor or outdoor)

Stair Climbing

Jumping Rope (higher strength for shorter bouts)

Pick one upper-body exercise (2-3 days/week)

Do 2-3 sets of 10-12 repeatings per set (the last 2 reps should be a difficulty). Relax regarding 30-45 seconds in between sets.

Pushups

Lat Pulldown

Standing Row

Scaption (pulling shoulder blades down and back to strengthen deltoid and potter's wheel cuff muscles)

Pushups

Keep body involved and directly for entire movement

Bend arm joints to 90 levels for each and every push-up, keep head according to spine

To customize, carry out push-up utilizing your knees

Lat Pulldown (with tube)

Anchor tube over top of door

As you bend elbow joints, draw shoulders down as well as back

Squeeze shoulder blades together while pulling

Standing Row (with tube)

Keep shoulders down and also back, with your back straight

Squeeze shoulder blades together while rowing

Scaption

Stand with small bend in knees

Using light dumbbells, place arms down by sides with palms forward

Slowly raise arms out to sides keeping shoulders down, shoulder blades drew back as well as down

Only raising arms up until dumbbells no longer function against gravity

Pick one lower-body excercise (2-3 days/weeks)

Do the very same number of sets and representatives as above.

Squats

Back Lunges

Lateral Stepping

Deadlifts

Squats(with dumbbells)

Keeping back right, squat down like seateding in a chair

Knees should not go over toes

Keep heels on ground throughout whole movement

Back Lunges(with dumbbells)

Step back with one leg each time, keeping back straight

Front knee need to not review toe

Keep front heel on ground for each rep

Deadlift (with dumbbells)

With slight bend in knee, maintain back straight as well as bend forward

Keep slight arch in back so stance remains strong

Only go as much as body will enable your back to remain straight

Lateral Stepping (with circular tube)

Start with legs with each other, round band just here knees

Take wide step sidewards, maintaining back straight and also feet alongside one another

Take several actions one direction, after that the other

Pick 2 core-conditioning workouts (4-5 days/week)

These works out improve posture and also minimize pain in the back. Each addresses a different component of your core.

Prone Spinal Extension

Bridge

Plank (could be customized utilizing your knees)

Side Plank (can be customized utilizing your knees)

Prone Spinal Extension

Lie on belly, loosen up reduced body

Bring arms down alongside body with thumbs appeared and also out

Lift upper body, reducing shoulders and pressing shoulder blades together

Bridge

Lie on back with knees curved to 90 levels, shoulder-width apart

Brace core (involve muscular tissues) and also prolong hips

Shoulders, hips as well as knees ought to be aligned

Side Plank