#im barely in any fandoms

[ecstarry]

listen but rival teachers jeggy where they are both competing for like a very lame prize at the end of the year that the school gives out and they just really dislike each other and how they are as teachers but they keep getting forced into situations where they have to get along like chaperoning a dance or going as the two teachers for a field trip and they kinda start understanding each other better but also they both really want that lame prize so they don't want to care for the other and ugh just absolute two idiots slowly falling in love

[taikk0]

the unspoken broflovski family curse

[biblically-accurate-dca]

rejoice! fish 🐟

[galacticlamps]

ok I have A Lot of thoughts about the staircase confession (well really about Edwin's whole character arc, but all roads lead to rome) but for now I just wanna say that, yes, I was bracing myself for something to go terribly wrong when I first watched it, and yes, part of me was initially worried its placement might be an uncharacteristically foolish choice made in the name of Drama or Pacing or Making a Compelling Episode of Television but at the expense of narrative sense--

But I wanna say that having taken all that into account, and watched it play out, and sat with it - and honestly become rather transfixed by it - I really think it's a beautifully crafted moment and truly the only way that arc could've arrived at such a satisfying conclusion.

And if I had to pinpoint why I not only buy it but also have come to really treasure it, I'd have to put it down to the fact that it genuinely is a confession, and nothing else.

That moment is an announcement of what Edwin has come to understand about himself, but because it takes the form of a character admitting romantic feelings for such a close friend, I think it can be very easy, when writing that kind of thing, to imbue it with other elements like a plea or a request or even the start of a new relationship that, intentionally or not, would change the shape of the moment and can quickly overshadow what a huge deal the telling is all on its own. But that's not the case here. Since it is only a confession, unaccompanied by anything else, and since we see afterward how it was enough, evidently, to fix the strangeness that had grown between him & Charles, we're forced to understand that it was never Edwin's feelings that were actually making things difficult for him - it was not being able to tell Charles about them. 'Terrified' as he's been of this, Edwin learns that his feelings don't need to either disappear completely or be totally reciprocated in order for him to be able to return to the peace, stability, and security of the relationship with which he defines his existence - and the scale of that relief a) tells us a hell of a lot about Edwin as a character and b) totally justifies the way his declaration just bursts out of him at what would otherwise be such a poorly chosen moment, in my opinion.

Whether or not they are or ever could be reciprocated, Edwin's feelings are definitively proven not to be the problem here - only his potential choice to bottle it up - his repression - is. And where that repression had once been mainly involuntary, a product of what he'd been through, now that he's got this new awareness of himself, if he still fails to admit what he's found either to himself or to the one person he's so unambiguously close with, then that repression will be by his own choice and actions.

And he won't do that. Among other things, he's coming into this scene having just (unknowingly) absolved the soul of his own school bully and accidental killer by pointing out a fact that is every bit as central to his self-discovery as anything about his sexuality or his attraction to Charles is: the idea that "If you punish yourself, everywhere becomes Hell"

So narratively speaking, of course it makes sense that Edwin literally cannot get out of Hell until he stops punishing himself - and right now, the thing that's torturing him is something he has control over. It's not who he is or what he feels, but what he chooses to do with those feelings that's hurting him, and he's even already made the conscious choice to tell Charles about them, he was just interrupted. But now that they're back together and he's literally in the middle of an attempt to escape Hell, there is absolutely no way he can so much as stop for breath without telling Charles the truth. Even the stopping for breath is so loaded - because they're ghosts, they don't need to breathe, but also they're in Hell, so the one thing they can feel is pain, however nonsensical. And Edwin certainly is in pain. But whether he knows what he's about to do or not when he says he 'just needs a tick,' a breather is absolutely not what's gonna give him enough relief to keep climbing - it's fixing that other hurt, though, that will.

Like everything else in that scene, there's a lot of layers to him promising Charles "You don't have to feel the same way, I just needed you to know" - but I don't think that means it isn't also true on a surface level. It's the act of telling Charles that matters so much more than whatever follows it, and while that might have gone unnoticed if anything else major had happened in the same conversation, now we're forced to acknowledge its staggering and singular importance for what it is. The moment is well-earned and properly built up to, but until we see it happen in all its wonderful simplicity, and we see the aftermath (or lack thereof, even), we couldn't properly anticipate how much of a weight off Edwin's shoulders merely getting to share the truth with Charles was going to be, why he couldn't wait for a better, safer opportunity before giving in to that desire, or how badly he needed to say it and nothing else - and I really, really love the weight that act of just being honest, seen, and known is given in their story/relationship.

[lucyshypemaster]

keefe was actually insane for this

[charmac]

just wanna say I agree wholeheartedly with your tags on that fandom post. I have been following sunny on here since 2015 and there is a constant cycle of sensitive, and frankly delusional people, who claim the show, make crazy headcanons and justifications to make it tolerable and acceptable to them before they eventually shun and condemn the show altogether. it was very bad in 2018 and made me withdraw from the fandom lmao. I remember being most annoyed with the endless woobifying of charlie and the absolute condemnation of dee above everyone else. like, they're all bad. that's the point of the show. I just don't understand how they could stomach it in the first place

You are a warrior, dude.

The reason it took me so long to join Sunnyblr in the first place was the fact that ~early 2020 I was rarely seeing anything here that was based in canon, mostly weird headcanons that made no sense to me, and Reddit genuinely seemed like a more based place to exist for this show.

I literally needed a friend to give me specific accounts to follow because the tag was (and, sorry, lowkey still is) a nightmare. (Though to be fair I’ve been in fandoms on Tumblr for over a decade and literally never liked scrolling tags.)

I got into Sunny and I fell in love with Sunny because of canon. Because it’s so fucking weird and fucked up but it’s FUNNY, and there’s genuinely nothing like it. The characters are horrible stupid terrible people but they’re actually deeply complex and rich to study, so much so that you feel extremely compelled in a multitude of ways to dedicate yourself to some part of them, or all parts of them. But.. if you strip them of those core identities, of what the characters stand for, that compulsion is gone, void, irrelevant.

Because it’s the extremely raw, almost purely acting on basic instinct, unfiltered humanity, worst parts of the self, inability to recognise or follow societal norms aspects of these characters that are relatable. It’s relatable in a way that *should* make you uncomfortable, feel unsettled, and maybe a little relieved that these parts of people can be acknowledged... That’s a unique and interesting feeling, something people engage with media like this to explore and expand upon, and it’s often something that genuinely helps or supports people who wrestle with a lot of the heavy concepts Sunny satirises (and sometimes just, shoves at you head on).

When people start to disregard all of this, for whatever reason they do, that’s when you end up with the Fandom using Sunny Characters as an “ability to project” or (much worse) a “near blank canvas to play with” (because, yeah, if you strip them of their literal reason for being created and continued existence, ofc you lose their whole identity!?)

The problem seems to be that either 1) they just don’t understand the show well enough to get that they’re disregarding this aspect of the plots and characters, and so they genuinely don’t recognise that the fandom for Sunny exists because of these terrible compulsions and insane trauma exploration and that’s why we enjoy discussing and playing with these characters or 2) they do understand this but they can’t engage with it without some kind of personal moral conundrum or extreme discomfort, so they have to sanitise or completely alter the characters to enjoy them.

The thing is, if you fall into category 2, you just don’t belong in the depths of it all, and it’s an unfortunate truth you have to face. If you cannot enjoy canon, if the actual show makes you extremely uncomfortable and you’re only here for a gay ship or to project your gender and sexuality onto one character, you need to go stan something else. I say that with the greatest intentions for you. As Anon here has stated, it’s an insane cycle in this fandom over and over, you’re just going to upset yourself and resent the show and the people here, because we like the canon and the fuckery because that’s what the show is for. That is the literal point of the show at the end of the day.

Now if you’re in category 1, I heavily encourage you to actually *talk to people about the show and the characters*, read analysis, watch the episodes with different frames of reference and in alternate states of mind. Do your own analysis or character work, try and just write out the plot of your favourite episode and put to words *why* you like it. Hell, try and write a fanfic or a spec script from the mind of one of the characters, even if you think you can’t write.

Honestly, honestly, honestly, if you genuinely like this show at face value but you’re only engaging with fanon because you feel like you ‘shouldn’t’ openly enjoy the canon because it’s seen as ‘bad,’ the best thing you can do is have a conversation with someone, or multiple people, who get the show.

That being said, I do wanna open this shell Discord I’ve made to people. For people who *enjoy* the canon, who want to discuss actual Sunny (and also have fun with it, of course!) you’re welcome to join.

A lot of you get it. I’ve made some amazing friends in this fandom and regularly have extremely stimulating and insanely throught provoking convos with the people I’ve met here. I love it, it drives my insane passion for this show and I am eternally grateful to have found people who love this show for what it is. I hope, if you’re struggling to figure out why you like this show or struggling to accept that you like media like Sunny, you reach out or join a conversation and learn to love it too. And if you don’t, if you genuinely hate the canon of this show and only like the version of Macdennis you saw in a dozen different Tiktok edits to Taylor Swift songs, I really hope you move on for your own sake.

[peipakao]

various sonic and flash related tweets i made that i think are at least mildly amusing

[jimjimenezzz]

watching 9-1-1 (because i kept seeing it on my tumblr feed and why the hell not, lone star was good so this should be good too) and im on s2, just got hit by "you two have such a cute son" said to eddie and buck. how did it take them 5 seasons to take any steps towards this??? i really thought y'all were delusional like loki/mobius shippers but apparently not

[oceanwithouthermoon]

sometimes i think about how the people who hate on my takes on here would talk to each other and its always phrased like the twitter fandom drama i see but completely irrational and it makes me giggle

"calling kusuke abusive just because he shot his brother with a lethal weapon, plotted his murder, planned to use their grandparents to assist in hurting/killing him, and tried for years to expose his secret to the entire world against his will and through knowingly hurtful means in order to destroy everything he cared about is so stupid! what a stretch!"

"the saiki k fandom is so damn sensitive. i shoot my brother with massive guns all the time and its not abusive because he just blocks it!" HELPEKSJJSJSKSKKS

[batboycentral]

may be a long shot but are there any d/Deaf or HoH that would like to beta a batfamily/batman fic that features Deaf/HoH characters?? pls feel free to dm on here or discord :)

[reallemonmeat]

i feel like this is something people probably already figured out but im 100% convinced sr pelo based john and jack off the cop dudes from child's play (1988) considering we already have the very obvious chucky parody - i havent seen anyone bring it up though and i just wanna ramble bc i find it interesting lol

i mean, the guy on the right's name is literally john and looks like him. thh eguy on the left is named mike but he still looks like jack. idk i just kinda thought it was cool to think abt lol

as i said i feel like this is probably something a bunch of people probably already noticed and/or im WAY behind (i havent been into spooky month for like a couple years or so) but. idk!!!

[im-getting-help]

i miss saltburn??

i feel myself slowly drifting back into the IT fandom again and im sad

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

comparing elia martell to princess diana is kinda insane

cause the real princess diana of westeros was rhaegar

[dolokhoded]

how would this go down in your au

ooohohohoho charlie i have THOUGHT ABOUT THIS you have NO IDEA. you've given me the perfect opportunity to talk about the Disciple Van Road Trip that doesn't actually happen in the AU because they have no money or time to actually do that but i still have thought about extensively.

john brought up the idea and simon immediately agreed and these two are unstoppable forces so by the moment they agree on something it's happening

literally Everyone else complains but does it anyways

thomas is very against the idea because he knows "we'll all take turns driving" means he, big james, jesus and susanna will take turns driving until susanna gets bored, james has to settle an argument or console someone and jesus has some petty fight with judas and sulks in the back of the van

matthew and john do most of the planning. john because he's enthusiastic and matthew because nobody's trusting john to do this by himself

also he's very detail oriented so he'll do it properly

big james has several objections. most being on how set simon is on this when he knows he gets car sick like 30 minutes into a drive

philip and andrew have accepted their fate and are buying snacks.

little james buys noise cancelling earphones.

magdalene borderline refuses and goes home but susanna and thad talk her into it

the trip happens anyways because of course it does.

as predicted an hour in john and judas are throwing chips at each other

susanna is threatening to turn the car around and go home

matthew gets overstimulated and borrows little james' earphones which leaves him having to cope with andrew panicking over forgetting to pack the most insignificant shit

peter and andrew are insulting each other's mothers

(peter and andrew are half siblings now. lore change. i don't remember if i've ever shared that)

(generally several changes are being made)

simon has gotten car sick and wants to die. big james is trying his best to comfort him instead of calling him an idiot and saying he told him so

magdalene and jesus are engaging in polite conversation

john goes through phases where he's either super hyped and energetic and non stop talking or silently huddled next to matthew in the back of the van probably dissociating

nathanael gets bored and is trying to get thad to make out with him

several people are throwing things at nathanael

thad asks to change seats

big james realizes susanna is a hundred percent for real and is going to turn around and go home so he gently offers to drive for a bit

simon barfs out the window

they all agree it's time to make a little rest stop and get fresh oxygen back into their brains

things go slightly more smoothly after that

simon's not sick anymore and also he and james in the front seats means they're in charge of the music which means there's good music

jesus and judas have resolved whatever they're currently going through at a gas station which means jesus is in a good mood again and can make sure the group isn't falling apart

he comes up with a bunch of ridiculous road games that keep everyone busy enough to not start throwing stuff at each other

peter and andrew apologize for insulting each other's mothers and share a bag of fritos

peter and magdalene on the other hand have fought during the stop and are currently not on speaking terms

nathanael and thad might have made out. nobody's sure and at this point they're not sure they really wanna know.

magdalene and judas smoke out the window despite agreeing not to but at this point nobody's willing to pick a fight about it

jesus and thomas take turns driving while everyone sleeps. some of them occasionally wake up and keep them company because apparently sleeping in a van is not most convenient

mostly nathanael cause this guy can't sleep in a regular setting nevermind a moving vehicle. sometimes judas.

john has a nightmare at some point which he really had hoped wouldn't happen but here we are

thomas notices and he wakes big james and james makes him pull over but eventually they go back to sleep

the rest of the night is mostly uneventful

philip wakes up at some insane hour at dawn and asks thomas to pull over again in some field so he can watch the sunrise

thomas wants to go home or drive the van into a wall but he can't do that so he sits with philip and meditates on the dirt instead.

[an-aceofspades]

you ever wonder what the hell a bristol accent is supposed to sound like?

cus remember, gotham is in NEW JERSEY.

what in the goddamn does a posh new jersey accent sound like????

[finnsfunworld]

jonathans short 👍 hes much shorter then argyle, prob shorter then steve idk i havent watch the show in a hot min but hes short and im standing by that.