#jegulus discourse

[sunnysaystuff]

there. did you see that? I just reblogged a jegulus post. and then...and then I reblogged a jily post.

let it sink in.

it's possible. please STOP throwing hate at people who ship jegulus exclusively (or jily exclusively, except they don't get NEARLY as much hate as the people who ship jegulus exclusively...) !! you're turning off people who ship both jily and jegulus to the fandom on the whole, and even jily!!

(I love jily SO much! I love jily more than I love jegulus, but I really hate what some of the jily fandom has become.)

[andyxcds]

i think i finally found the root of the discourse but by God, why are we talking about facism without really understanding what it means?? or being able to seperate a writer from the mature content they might write?

[cowboylikeyouu]

my favorite gender is men finding out about the concept of shipping non-canon ships

[queermediaismypassion]

hey so the ship doesn't fucking change in any way depending on who you think tops or bottoms in the bedroom. also some people switch! stop being so WEIRD about what gay people do in the bedroom.

i am so sick and tired of seeing people argue about ship names because of the stupid fucking practice of putting the top's name first. i'm talking people using harco instead of drarry cause they see harry as The Top (to use a ship most people know as example)

YOU'RE FUCKING WEIRD !!

the ship name should be determined by whatever the fuck sounds best. i've seen people trying to push for using "neuvithesley" over wriolette "because wrio is the bottom". i don't give a fuck what you prefer when you read about them, wriolette is just objectively a better name.

i've seen actual ship wars between people who ship the same two characters but think the top/bottom dynamic is so important that it changes the ship. just goes to show how many mlm shippers simply fetishize gay men and don't give a fuck about the actual relationship aspect.

what people prefer in bed is not necessarily reflected in their behavior in everyday life. not all gay couples have a sub/dom dynamic. some people like to switch it up. y'all seriously need to work on your stereotypes surrounding queer relationships.

not what this post is really about but side note: people also tend to feminize the percieved bottom so much. sometimes it gets to the point where it ends up looking like a straight relationship and it just smells a lot like lowkey homophobia with a whiff of internalized misogyny.

i don't necessarily think this is on purpose/done with malicious intent, but do better.

sorry this was very mlm heavy but femslash readers/writers are usually a lot less weird about this..

[thebibutterflyao3]

Fandom thoughts for today:

A rare pair is a ship that isn’t popular and has very little representation in a fandom. For example: James Potter/Mary Macdonald

A crack ship is an absurd, out of timeline, impossible, crossover-style ship and is often chosen for humorous reasons (i.e. as a joke). For example: Remus Lupin/Bruce Wayne or Grindelwald/Lily Luna Potter

Every time I see Jegulus referred to as a crack ship, my eye starts twitching. James and Regulus went to the same school at the same time, were close in age, and had Sirius in common. It is not implausible that they knew each other and interacted at some point. As far as I know, no one is claiming that it’s canon that they dated.

Jegulus was originally a rare pair that began as soon as Regulus was introduced as Sirius’s brother. Best friend’s brother is a popular romance trope and it appealed to a small group of people in the early 2000s.

However, a group of TikTokers a few years back chose to make fun of the ship by creating Jegulus Week and calling it a “crack ship.” Some of them even claimed that they came up with the ship (they likely hadn’t heard of it, but it did exist). The best friend’s brother trope (particularly with the angsty Black brothers) again appealed to a lot of people and it became popular.

*No hate to anyone who called it a crack ship, but there is a distinction.*

[maladaptivewriting]

the people who make tiktoks like “what’s a sirius black headcanon you hate?” are soooo annoying. like get a new thing. make original content. jesus christ

[venturelock]

On a post about whatever ship-

*Oh what about X-ship though?"

*Okay but X-Ship are litteral soulmates though*

*PLATONICALY*

*X-Ship makes no sense though?*

*But in canon...*

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPP

LEARN TO LET PEOPLE SHIP WHATEVER TF THEY WANT!

LEARN TO HAVE SOME FUCKING FUN OR LEARN TO BLOCK A FUCKING TAG!!!!

[that-one-gay-from-the-gay-club]

THE MARAUDERS ARENT REAL PEOPLE CAN MAKE WHATEVER CHARACHTERISATIONS THEY LIKE

THE MARAUDERS ARENT REAL PEOPLE CAN MAKE WHATEVER CHARACHTERISATIONS THEY LIKE

THE MARAUDERS ARENT REAL PEOPLE CAN MAKE WHATEVER CHARACHTERISATIONS THEY LIKE

Theyre fictiona charachters babe nobody cares that "real people wouldn't forgive their brother for joining a hate group" (wonderful to know you speak for EVERY SINGLE SIBLING ON THE PLANET but dont actually take real people who have real thoughts into consideration bc i would, in their situation, 10000% forgive my siblings. I would understand. Also remember that regulus CANONICALLY BETRAYED THE DEATH EATERS when youre making this argument)

They can be gay!!! They can be straight!!! They can be whatever the fuck we want because theyre fictional characters!!!!

Some people dont understand that theyre fictional, adjective, imaginary, not real

Toodles, start as many arguments if you want

Infact send me hate anons too, ill respond i promise. Youll regret it, but i promise ill respond

Or better yet, go on not anon and prove your brave

Or even better, get a life. This fandom is made of REAL PEOPLE, who wanted to ESCAPE. The writers and artists in this fandom are spending time out of their day to create things for others consumption, for fun, for free. They dont deserve to be sent hate anons. I literally just scrolled past someone sharing anons that called them fat and racist, as if that had ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. The racism in question: regulus watching anime. Thats. Thats why.

This fandom has went really downhill recently and im actually really upset about it. I joined this fandom about two years ago when i was goung through a really stressful point in my life and its been an escape ever since. Earlier this year, i started writing. But i havent touched my WIP in at least three months because I havent had the motivation because i dont feel comfortable in this fandom.

And Yes, im tagging a lot of possibly unrelated things across the fandom because everyone needs to see the message

[gem-wildee]

I ship Remus and Regulus and I’m really happy about it. The thing I don’t understand is why Wolfstar or Jegulus Shippers are so pissed off about me shipping them.

Leave me alone and let me enjoy what I want.

[thirteenandahalfcrows]

Y’all so fucking wierd for calling jegulus shippers nazi sympathisers- sincerely a Jew

Like the whole discussion around the death eaters being a metaphor for the nazis is so wildly uncomfortable to begin with because j*anne is literally insane and is genuinely wierd with her portrayals. If u wanna have that conversation we can, but the matter of the fact is that that discussion has nothingggggg to do with the ship.

So please for the ever loving fuck shut the hell up, ur not being politically correct; ur using a tragedy to try manipulate ppl to stop shipping a ship u don’t like, which is so unbelievably gross and holds no ground. U can dislike a ship that’s so totally okay, just can we not with the nazi thing, it’s such a disproportionate response to a non-issue

Sorry for putting this discourse on the timeline that I’m sure we are all tired of seeing, but I had to put in my two cents cuz it makes me feel so icky

[northlt03]

Seeing much discourse on twitter about marauders stans being the same as harry potter fans and how all we have are headcanons and I wont argue on that hellsite bc I hate it as a principle and I think people who use ONLY use twitter are out of touch with their roots (tumblr)

But like no??? Idk about all marauders fans but lately I see mostly non hogwarts aus. Sure, there are fandom favourite fics set in the wizarding world which was created by jk rowling and as such has her influence and horrible world building. But like???? what fics I see more are muggle aus.

And yk what? Yeah all we have are headcanons. WHO CARES ??? I USED TO MAKE MY BARBIES KISS AND NOW I DO THE SAME TO MY SPECIAL GAYS !!! WHERE IS YOUR WHIMSY??? WHERE IS YOUR IMAGINATION???

make them gay and trans and stupid! reblog art and read and write fanfics! and above all else, never participate in fandom discourse just scroll away, kids, it's for your own good 👍

[sunnysaystuff]

"but [insert ship] makes no sense!!!!" u make no sense if ur getting pressed over someone shipping fictional characters. grow up

[jaxofalltraits]

Can we as a society making shipping fun again because I'm tired of saying I ship two characters and then some annoying little mosquito starts yapping in my ear about how "it's never going to be canon" or "they barely interact"

Like learn to disagree in silence please and thank you!

Ship whatever you want as long as it's legal!!

[thehumblefigtree]

Okay friends, I’ve been having thoughts and I want to know y’all’s opinions.

I’ve seen a few people equate drarry to jegulus and I just… don’t see it. I get that there’s some similarities (the whole Gryffindor/Slytherin thing, playing on opposing quidditch teams, fighting on opposite sides of the war, one’s a Potter and one’s from the Black family, etc) but as far as their personalities and general relationship dynamics go, I really don’t see the connection.

(And, just as a disclaimer, I have read drarry pretty extensively and not jegulus; I’m not against it or anything, I just haven’t gotten into it. So that might be clouding my judgement. Any jegulus fans reading this: please let me know what you like about the ship, maybe I’m missing something.)

Here’s how I see it: Regulus is James’ best friend’s little brother. There might be tension there (they’re in opposing houses, plus Sirius’ strained relationship with his family, conflicting values, etc) but to my knowledge that’s pretty much the extent of it. James is a prankster and the perfect example of a Gryffindor, he’s brave and noble and a bit of a prat but has a heart of gold and would do anything for his friends. Regulus is pretty quiet and reserved but is always two steps ahead of everyone and is definitely someone you wouldn’t want to cross and not just because of his family name. He’s smart, to the point where he outsmarted Voldy when he was just a teenager. Despite the differences in values of their families, they both grew up in wealthy pureblood households.

Meanwhile, Harry is a mix between Gryffindor and Slytherin. He’s brave to the point of recklessness and has no sense of self-preservation, but he also desperately wants to prove himself worthy to his friends, professors, etc. I would argue that this mostly stems from trauma rather than just his personality but he definitely exhibits mixed traits rather than a poster child for Gryffindor. He bottles things up (I.e. not telling his friends about Umbridge’s abuse) and also rages to the point of destruction (I.e. destroying Dumbledore’s office after Sirius’ death). He’s protective of his friends and values his relationship with them but he also struggles to let them in at times. He doesn’t really care about school at all, though that might be due in part to the fact that he’s always fighting for his life. Draco is shown as arrogant and obnoxious and a bit of a drama queen, but he’s definitely seen some shit, especially in the later books. He’s smart, second in their class behind Hermione, and has a mean streak, though he presumably has at least somewhat of a decent relationship with the other Slytherins. I’ve always assumed that even though he uses his father and his name to boost his social status, his relationship with his father is cold at best (but maybe that’s just because of Tom Felton’s facial expressions in the Diagonal Alley scenes in the Chamber of Secrets movie). But you can’t deny that he grew up wealthy and quite spoiled, juxtaposing Harry’s neglect. Harry’s a half-blood who grew up with his abusive muggle relatives, while Draco is the heir to two of the most pureblood families.

But with drarry, it goes deeper than that. They’re thematic parallels. They’re both used as pawns on opposite sides of the war, and they both had their paths cut out for them from birth (Harry by the prophecy, and Draco by his family). They’re both stuck in situations that they don’t want to be in, fighting an adult war as kids while the adults in their lives fail at keeping them safe. And they are canonically obsessed with each other. No matter how you interpret their relationship, they are way more involved in each other’s lives than is normal for two people who aren’t friends and in different houses. Harry thinks of Draco as his nemesis, more so than the guy that’s actually been trying to kill him since birth, and Draco goes out of his way to antagonize Harry as well. And I’m not even gonna get into Sixth Year.

I just don’t see the connection between the two ships beyond surface level similarities. What do y’all think? Am I missing something?

[canisconstellation]

I'm begging y'all to reflect, as the marauders fandom runs off its biggest creators once every few months and it's been a consistent trend for the past decade but it's getting worse. Wolfstar especially, but I'm seeing an sizable increase in jegulus creators getting targeted. It costs nothing to move on and not write whatever impulsive or accusatory reply/ask your cooking up. We'd all experience a lot less cortisol if we simply went "not my cup of tea" and moved on with our day. It also only costs a little to send a really positive message to the creators who spend so much of their personal time providing art, often with little to no compensation!! I need to do this more myself. Doing so will remind or inspire others to do the same, and maybe we can buffer the voices that makes creators lose their joy in creating.

In a fandom that's trying to distance itself from a discriminatory writer, attacking people about legal kinks (only specifying legal since I know some would jump in immediately with criminal activity, which is NOT a kink), genderfluid/enby/fem or masc presenting representations, and dismissing works exploring themes like sex, murder, violence and drugs puts you a lot closer on the side of a certain demographic. There is not a place for purity culture in the queer community, as we are oppressed by radical groups with these same values. We ourselves have been labeled taboo, and pushing that agenda on queer creators only sets us back, not gain something.

[howtotrainyourrei]

a redraw of a rwrb scene but its james and reggie!!!