#testosterone discourse

[thetransomen]

can't post this to my main account, but omg orgasms off t are sooo much better.

i quit t a few weeks ago and just started birth control this week - my pussy feels like it did when i was in hs. like, wet and soft, softer than it ever was on t. and it just feels different, more transcendent and magical. also more full-body involvement, whereas orgasms on t were always short-lived and (somewhat) unsatisfying.

there's also something else i can't describe - a kind of pain i get afterwards, a soreness i guess that i don't get on t. or if i do, it's worse. the pain off t is like, inside and throughout my whole sex organ, whereas on t it's just on my clitoris making it more painful.

it's not a bad pain either - just kind of a lingering soreness after

please note i'm not a detransitioner, just non-binary and getting in touch with my feminine side.

terfs don't interact

[angelfacemjj]

People forget a lot that transmasc/transfem/transneu don' necessarily mean trans man/trans woman/trans nonbinary/gender neutral, n that honestly annoys me many, many times.

[fandomfluffandfuck]

It's probably mostly due to all this press being for Materialists and thus with the film being a romance movie where sweetness and silliness are appropriate, but I think I'm actually falling in love with Chris Evans all over again purely for the fact that he is absolutely unconcerned with more classic, harsh masculinity the older he gets. He's always been a giant child, don't get me wrong, haha, but there's something about it lately... I think, if I had to boil it down to one thing it'd be that he feels very comfortable and like he's not putting anything on. He's not trying to be the leading man and it feels like this space is actually where he lives, so he shines. He's laughing like always but I feel like he's been even more self-deprecating in a very charming way lately, seemingly enjoying being the "underdog" in Materialists. Just, things like Dakota calling him a tiny little raccoon, being unable to open a jar and handing it over to Dakota, dropping things, talking about how he can't cook but he does clean, etc.

[6b4tgsl]

TRAs: "women can have penises & men can have vaginas", "clothes don't equal gender"

ALSO TRAs:

Idk why yall keep saying "being gay or trans is illegal in Algeria" like what tf does that have to do with anything!? No one is saying Imane is gay. JKR never said Imane is trans! Pls stop being slow!

[snowsoracle]

My last resort in arguments around transition is that my wet dreams raped me in my sleep, I only get wet dreams when T courses through my veins, and I never wanted to be raped. My body just gave me dreams of it, and then I woke up in a cold sticky puddle of my own cum wondering why I felt so bad. Growing up I was told males can't be raped, if theres an erection (let alone cum) "you wanted it," it never gets met with empathy. Most GC's, Detrans, and transphobes, argue in accordance to "you wanted it" T means you wanted it, get therapy (which I have), and you should detrans. I can argue against those. But today I got empathy, I can't stomach arguing against that. Maybe I need to chill on the underhanded arguments if they're getting to be empathetic towards amabs because then I can't weaponize myself against them and my arguments fall apart. There's just no way they can actually feel bad because their argument revolves around trans femme being abusers, and no mind to the idea that social pressures could cause gender dysphoria in amabs.

[void-galaxy-shenanigans]

the testosterone has made me extremely queer for a lot of people. like...¿tattoos or dyed hair on any gender? 1000/10. but also fictional men, & androgynous/trans people, & intersex people, & men who smile soft when you infodump, & women playing with my hair &... *vague gestures* I’m very queer. 🏳‍🌈

(I didn’t realize I was aspec until HRT changed that 😅 You don’t notice/struggle to define a lack of something until you have the contrast of having/experiencing it, ¿y’know? I’m still demiromantic (I’m the slow burn trope embodied), but not asexual anymore. I think I’m in a grey area between bi/pan and demisexual.)

literally playing video games like “oh, I wanna romance him👀” & then frustrated to find out the game doesn’t allow bisexual companions so my male character can’t romance the hot male companion 😭

(& this isn’t Stereotypical Hot Man™ either. like....¿Malavai Quinn from SWTOR, when you give him a gift & he says “I am overwhelmed, my lord”? very hot. it’s personality & the way they talk to me, & has very little to do with most aspects of physical appearance. the exception is witchy/fae/fantasy vibe outfits &/or dyed hair & tattoos, but people who decorate their mortal form that way tend to also be the personality I like 🤷‍♂️)

to simplify, I am experiencing ✨queerness✨ and honestly I’m not mad. people are hot. and I want kisses 🥺 (but why do my favourite people live far away 😭 or they’re fictional)

~Nico (he/they)

[sapphire-theseainequator]

Can your problem with fandom really be solved if you are a person who thinks the only media can cater to you are made by the same people who share the same genitals (or hormones) as you

And your problem is that people who share the same genitals (or hormones) as you are not always making what you want

And instead of learning fandom navigating skill, you would rather put yourself in a dome where you think anyone who make what you demand must have different genitals (or hormones) than you?

[finalexpenses]

gary i need testosterone

[homunculus-argument]

I know I'm opening a can of worms with the female socialisation/male socialisation discourse again, but the funniest thing about being a trans guy who had a Hyper Feminine Repression Phase at one point is being conditioned to subtly and discreetly keep a certain kind of guy at an arm's length to not attract their attention. Not like out of fear or anything, but the same way you'd sneak past a chatty toddler because you don't want them to pick you as the target of their avalanche of nonsensical toddler yapping.

I've been on testosterone for like seven years now and can't recall the last time someone read me as female in any context. Imagine being a straight guy just minding your own business somewhere and some unremarkable manlet of absolutely no interest to you could just unpromptedly blurt out that it's not that he'd dislike you, he's just trying to make sure that you don't want to fuck him.

[renthony]

"Are you TMA or TME?"

Good question! I don't fucking know!

I'm intersex and nonbinary with visible tits and facial hair. I am neither transmasc nor transfemme. Baeddels have called me a "vaguely transmasculine butch-ish whatever theyfab" and terfs have called me a "stupid fucking tranny who will never be a woman." Doctors look at my natural body and call everything a symptom. A doctor once lowered his voice and apologized to me like someone had died when prescribing a blood hormone test, because the assumption was that I would be shocked and in mourning over my "condition."

Assumptions get made about what I want to do with my own anatomy. I get mistaken for a trans woman and a trans men by both cis and trans people. People have complemented me on the effects of both testosterone and estrogen based HRT, when I'm not on any form of HRT. Trans people act just as fucking weird about my body as cis people do.

I'm pretty sure I lose no matter what. I'm pretty sure my actual identity doesn't matter to anyone involved in trans discourse as long as they can feel superior to it and me.

TMA and TME are two sides of yet another false binary, and intersex people have repeatedly said this only to get ignored.

Am I TMA or TME?

I don't know, and I think a better question is, "why do you need to know in order to treat me with respect as a trans and intersex person?"

[qweerhet]

"no children are being forced to take hrt or have surgeries that change the appearance of their genitals" intersex children are, actually

"everyone was assigned a gender at birth" there are intersex people who were not assigned a gender at birth

"trans women are amab trans people and trans men are afab trans people" there are intersex people who were assigned male at birth and later transitioned medically and socially to male, and intersex people who were assigned female at birth and later transitioned medically and socially to female

"assigned gender at birth is a 1:1 predictor of tma vs tme experience" there are intersex people who were assigned female at birth and experienced violence for being a woman with a penis + testes + secondary sex characteristics like facial hair + having a testosterone-dominant hormone profile, and had to transition medically and socially to be socially and medically recognized as women as adults

"bodies born with sex variations are medically nonbinary" no, they are intersex, and intersex people can be a binary gender if they want to be

"nonbinary people who want non-cisnormative sex variations are mentally ill/diseased for wanting a disordered body" no, bodies with sex variations are not disordered, and it harms intersex people for them to be seen as disordered regardless of if the body in question was born that way or created through surgery

"cis women don't experience transphobic body policing/will never understand how it feels to have your womanhood constantly in question and subject to violence over things you can't change" intersexism overlaps heavily with transphobia and an intersex woman can both identify as cis and have a penis, testes, be testosterone-dominant, etc, and have visible signs of those traits. an intersex woman can also have been amab or be currently legally designated as male by the government and still identify as cis.

stop saying intersexist shit in your trans discourse thanks

[bitter-limelight]

I am begging everyone on any side of any bit of bullshit discourse to realize the fact that *transitioning does not equal passing.* These are not synonyms. Trans men do not have this magical trans power some of you seem to think we do where testosterone makes us look like men. Even a high dose. Even after years and *years* of transitioning. Even after top surgery and the right hair cut and a deeper voice and legal document change and care in how you move and speak and only wearing men's clothes and only being around people who never knew you Before,

Some of us don't pass. I'm so exhausted hearing this bullshit from 15-20 year olds about how all a boy has to do is put on a hoodie and he passes as a man or hearing that we can't understand how it is to be treated as a woman "after we transition." Like I WISH I lived in this fantasy world you live in where choosing to transition means passing and the ability to be stealth. Please tell that to the men who throw a fit seeing my skinny titless facial hair having ass in the men's room multiple times a week.

[communistkenobi]

if we want to talk about where trans men tend to be overrepresented in transphobic discourse, it’s in relation to scaremongering media profiles of detransitioners, framing trans men as misunderstood women with internalised misogyny who have mutilated our bodies and are now left ‘ruined’ because of HRT and surgery. This is used to argue for policies that restrict access to trans healthcare, especially for minors (notice how often we are talked about as “young girls”!) putting a ‘sympathetic’ face to transgender hysteria by talking about the “victims” of transgenderism. But this is still an incomplete picture without accounting for transmisogyny, as trans women are the “perpetrators” of this victimisation, convincing “confused young women” to cut off their breasts and take testosterone. It centres around the ‘corruption’ of femininity, as trans men forsake our ‘natural’ femaleness and trans women as ‘appropriating’ it.

This is why Matt Walsh, JKR, and other prominent transphobic figures asks the question “what is a woman?” and not “what is a man?”, it’s why Posie Parker advocates for armed cis men to go into women’s bathrooms to “protect women from men invading women’s spaces,” its why terfs are so fixated on trans women as ur-misogynists, it’s why right wing politicians like Pierre Poilievre & the Conservative Party of Canada focus their ire on blocking trans women from public spaces.

Saying this is not a denial of trans men as victims of transphobia (hello! I am a frequent one!) and its endlessly frustrating that these conversations get derailed into “well what about MY experience where XYZ horrible thing happened to me” as if the conversation about transphobia should only ever remain in the realm of interpersonal violence and victimisation. It’s very handy to stay in that arena because the only rebuttal to that tactic is to deny this random person’s experiences or “ignore their lived reality.” But I’m not talking about experience! Transphobia is a structural force in the world which means we don’t actually need to rely on individual accounts of violence to understand it. taking stock of that structure is only a “threat” to “trans masc voices” if you think structural discussions of oppression are de facto “misandrist”

[turgidscum]

autoandrophilia, huh? this is a fetish to you. being trans is a medical condition bro. if you're gonna go on t just to get off on yourself being a man, don't fucking call yourself a transsexual. we need this shit to live, you do it for fun.

i luv being my own doctor. stopped blockers and upped my t dose just wanna punch shit and masturbate, lush

[genderqueerdykes]

I remember when I was still pretty new to the intersex community, I was debating on whether or not I was part of it because I only just had PCOS and nothing more (although I could never be certain) and so many people that I saw in the tags discussing it were mostly discourse types who were arguing on whether or not it should be considered an intersex condition. I felt like I didn't belong in the community despite having similar experiences with intersex people (being forced on hormones as a teenager, medical professionals not taking my issues seriously without obsessing over my diagnosis, being bullied and ostracized by peers for more non-feminine/masculine presenting traits) and it made me feel like a freak.

One day, while scrolling through the PCOS tag, I saw one of your posts talking so openly about PCOS as an intersex variation and it made me feel comfortable with being part of the intersex community without feeling like I'm an invader. This had actually gotten me to learn more in understanding PCOS, what other health issues could be related to it besides the "scary" masculine traits that my doctor pushed on me as a teenager, finding other ways to manage my symptoms with the help of tips from the community, as well as advocating for myself with regards to my health.

All that to say that I'm very grateful that this blog exists and you had been a huge help in helping me understand myself and my condition while also trying to help family members and friends who had also gotten diagnosed with PCOS recently. From the bottom of my heart, thank you!! 💛💜💛

hey glad icould help with that! i hope things are going well for you, and i hope you're able to receive proper care for what is going on with your health

i don't get why people are like this with PCOS in specific but its been happening for years. it's so mean. as far as i can tell, it's people who are angry that there are cis women who have PCOS who pass as cis women and for some reason that's upsetting or insulting to people w/ PCOS who "look" intersex or don't pass or whatever ? i don't understand it. like why. that's intersexism. some intersex people don't "look" intersex, why are we constantly excusing profiling people?

i feel like there's a lot of misogyny at play here as well because i feel like people view PCOS as a condition that "only women" have or whatever or associate it with cis women so they hate it. it really is a petty thing to say that PCOS can't be an intersex variation. i don't know why people single it out. i don't get why people with PCOS should feel ashamed of themselves? that's what really disturbs me is why do people with PCOS deserve to feel ashamed or whatever?

a lot of people w/ PCOS deal with elevated testosterone levels and it shouldn't have to be the most possible in order for anyone to take it seriously as an intersex condition. even if someone isn't "visibly" intersex, they should be taken seriously. i hope people learn to be kinder to intersex people who have certain variations. i don't get the hostility. i don't get why people immediately jump to "that doesn't count!!!!" said who? what does that mean?

anyway, thanks for the support, appreciate you! stay safe, take care of yourself