#multioriented

[caffeinatedcarny]

My pfp for pride I drew! It was made using a screencap of Puffball ^^ this is the Multioriented flag! Multiorientation is when you have more than one sexual and romantic identity simultaneously! Happy pride month!

[aroace-alterhuman]

ok. i'm changing labels and pronouns again (shocking, ik /s). my pronouns are now they/it. my gender is now agender/librafeminine. i'm still asexual but my romantic orientation is now bi lesbian. also still calling myself queer as well.

(i'm also using the labels genderqueer, nonbinary, sapphic, and multioriented as well but the labels above are my main ones)

[thehealingsystem]

do you ever look at old stuff you said that you definitely do not remember saying or doing

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Semibi- Pride Flag

Semibi- (semibisexual, semibiromanti, etc.) or semi-bi- (semi-bisexual, semi-biromantic...): bi individuals only attracted to only one gender or only one sex; bi nonconformity.

While the roots could be trolls satirizing mogai labels as mockery, many reclaimed it or readopted it to mean another thing, expanding the notions of nonmono- orientations. Such as including those who are:

Bicurious, biflexible, heterocurious, heteroflexible, homocurious, homoflexible, androcurious, androflexible, gynecurious, gyneflexible, monocurious, monoflexible, etc.

Bispec people with gender-related or juvelic preferences (femaric, mascic, equaric, or duaric)

Questioning, undefined, or unsure people

Varioriented people such as homoromantic heterosexual or heteromantic homosexual

Abro-/amplusic people fluctuating or flowing through the homo/hetero continuum, or multioriented and centrioriented people

Gayhet people in general, including multigender and genderfluid people

Those who are MGA (experience multi-gender attraction) but is only SSA or OSA/DSA or MSA but only SGA or OGA/DGA/CGA.

Semicelibate, those who are half-asexual half-bisexual, or to chose dating or mating only one gender/sex or only pursuing attraction to a specific sex/gender, despite attracted to multiple

Attractionally monosexual monoromantic but identitarily/identitarianly bi, for any reason

Trixenamoric, torenamoric, neptunic, uranic, penulti-, differo-, similo-, pencontra-, and related identities

A blend of semi- (ie semisexual, semiromantic) and bi-.

Someone who is behaviorally bi- despite being libidinously mono- (cupiospec), or libidinally bi while behaviourally mono- (orchidspec) [not necessarily monofidelitous or uni-partnering]

[redtail-lol]

Presenting, Enderqueer

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My own blankqueer label. I've been wanting to make one for a while. Name and flag based on the End dimension from Minecraft.

Core principles of Enderqueer:

The core principles of Enderqueer are as follows

The right to self identification with little restrictions and rules.

Inclusion of non-harmful identities in the communities they say they belong to.

Respecting the identities of people even if you do not understand.

Giving everyone a chance to explain their identity before deeming it harmful; as well as respecting someone's choice to not explain and assuming good faith rather than passing judgement.

Putting experiences over definitions; allowing all labels to have outliers if they're comfortable with the label even when it doesn't fit them perfectly.

Queer liberation and the advancements of our rights.

Destroying heteronormativity, cisnormativity, exorsexism, intersexism, allonormativity, amatonormativity, and mononormativity (all 3 meanings of mono: monosexuality, monogenderism, and monogamy).

Enderqueer beliefs:

On identity, enderqueer believes the following

Most forms of self identification are valid, however anything that is identified with for harmful reasons (such as transphobia, biphobia/multiphobia, homophobia, ableism, racism, etc.) or things that are harmful regardless of reason (such as transabled, transrace for non-adoptees, transnazi, shit like that), are not valid.

It is okay to ask questions about identities you don't understand or think are harmful before fully accepting them without question. However, if a person doesn't want to answer, that is their right, and it doesn't give you the right to argue against or hate their identity. Assume good faith and maybe ask others who have similar identities.

Identity is complicated and every label, regardless of definition, can and will have outliers, and this is not a problem

Experiences and personal comforts are more important than definitions

All mspec identities are valid and are not biphobic

All aspecs are queer unless the aspec person in particular says they aren't.

All Polyamory, ambiamory, and other nonmonogamy is queer unless the polyam/non-monogam person in particular says they are not queer.

Redundant terms are okay

Multigendered and genderfluid people are "really" their genders. The existence of their other genders or the temporary nature of their genders don't make them less real

On paraphilias, enderqueer believes the following

Paraphilias are morally neutral. Paraphiles who's paraphilias are nonconsensual or harmful to themselves or others deserve support and recovery, and paraphiles who's paraphilias are not harmful should be allowed to act on it. Paraphilias that can either be harmful or not harmful should only be practiced in a safe and ethical way.

On flag discourse, enderqueer believes the following

Flags should not be gatekept from certain groups unless they are specific to one identity or one group of identities. people can decide to use your flags based on your beliefs.

Controversial original flags can be used regardless of if you agree with the creators, but replacement flags should not be used by people who don't agree with the sentiments behind the cancellation. Racist transphobes should not use the orange and pink lesbian flag. Mspec lesbians and supporters should not use the new pan or aroace flags. This is because the new flags have a goal: punish the original creator for a belief by replacing their work. Using replacement flags is accomplishing that goal, and if you agree with the original creator, you shouldn't punish them.

Multioriented and abrosexual people are "really" their orientations. The existence of their other orientations or the temporary nature of their orientations don't make them less real

Other things enderqueer believes the following

Queer labels should not concern themselves with non-queer issues, as that is a different part of one's identity. Making queer labels that concern themselves with non-queer issues excludes the people who are either uneducated on the topic or have no business voicing the opinion because they are not a part of the community or even adjacent.

Gender is real. Social constructs are powerful things that can cause real and observable phenomenon in the brain, and gender being real doesn't invalidate any funky gender identity

Gender Abolition is transphobic. Gender is the identity, and taking away gender leaves nothing but biological sex which may still allow binary trans people to exist if they experience dysphoria but will definitely erase all nondysphoric and nonbinary people.

Transmisogyny and transmisandry are real

POC queers are an unremovable and important part of the queer community

What does enderqueer explicitly support?

Enderqueer supports the following identities, actions, or forms of identification:

Unlabeled identities

People who use few labels for themselves

Termcollectors and labelhoarders

All aspecs, including loveless aros, any sex stance for aces, romance stance for aros, friendship stance for apls, etc, and atertiaries

Anti-contact, pro-recovery paraphiles who's paraphilias are harmful to themselves or others

Paraphiles who's paraphilias are not harmful to themselves or others

Paraphiles who's paraphilias can be harmful or can be safe who only act on them in a way that is safe and ethical

Mspec monos

Mspec gays, veldians, lesbians, cenelians, enbians, straights, etc who do not consider themselves monos

Straightbians, straight gays, straight veldians, gaybians/velaurians, and other labels often used by multigender people

Lesboys, turigirls, ceneliboys and ceneligirls, enbiboys and enbigirls, trixiboys and trixigirls, and toriboys and torigirls

Any other form of "contradictory" labels

Aspec and non-aspec SAM

Xenogenders

Xenidens, or xenoids used in reclamation

Allion orientations

Gender nonconformity, including pronoun nonconformity

Neurolabels, when used by people who have those conditions

Reclamation of slurs and derogatory terms, even when used as an identity

Transracial adoptees

Transspecies therians

Transage chronosian or transage age regressors

What does enderqueer explicitly denounce?

Enderqueer denounces the following identities, actions, or forms of identification:

Radqueers

Winterqueers or Winterpunks

Transidentities that are not transgender, transrace adoptees, therian transspecies, or chronosian/agere transage

Pro-contact harmful paraphilias or neu-contact harmful paraphilias. This also applies to unethical or unsafe ways of acting on a paraphilia that can be done in a safe, ethical way

Comp-contact for paraphilias that can never be safe or ethical in practice

Anti-recovery for ANY paraphilias. Nonharmful paraphiles may choose to recover anyway

Anti-contact for paraphilias that are never dangerous or unethical

Radical feminists

Not recognizing attraction to elsegender people as being just as real and valid as attraction to aptobinary people. This includes calling all exclusive lesbians monosexual, saying all sexualities inherently include elsegender people, thinking enbians are choosing to date nonbinary people or cenelians are choosing not to date aptobinary people, rather than recognizing that they are attracted to other elsegender people, potentially exclusively, or calling WLN and MLN labels transphobic or enbyphobic

Bad faith labels such as superstraight, quasihomosexual, animesexual (though animesexual can be reclaimed by fictosexuals), and others made to mock queerness or justify bigotry

What is enderqueer neutral on, or what does enderqueer not believe needs to be part of a blankqueer label?

Enderqueer is stanceless on the following:

Syscourse

Shipcourse

Self diagnosis

Furries

Alterhumanity (OP supports and it's close to queer discourse but ultimately I decided it was far enough removed that it didn't need to be included)

Engaging with problematic media and/or creators

Kink at pride (I know this one is super relevant but I don't have any strong opinions and the ones I do have are very mixed)

Enderqueers may have no opinion on the above issues, or a stance that they do not believe is important to a blankqueer label. Or they may just agree with everything else included under enderqueer and choose to use it.

[genderstarbucks]

I believe multioriented is like using multiple labels. For example, being caligosexual and demisexual, being lesbian romantically and lithromantic. So not essentially mspec.

It's like unlabaled, it could be but doesn't have to

Yeah it's not essentially mspec but for some people it might be, bc for me I use it cuz I'm mspec gay

[eyeofperidott]

intro post . .

Salutations ! Im Peridott or Perii . i use he / him & che / cyr

Im radqueer neutral for personal reasons , but agree with ( most ) radqueer veiws . im nuanceship ( link ) in regards 2 syscourse .

im pro endo & pro willo ! !

i personally use TransIDs, PermaIDs, & MUDs ! so that is that . .

im disabled ! ! i have Autism , ADHD , GAD , anxiety , keep that in mind when interacting !

some more info under cut ♡

“ gender identity . . multigender ! transfemmasc, androgyne, mascfem, stargender xenogender user .

“ orientation . . multisexual , multioriented ! arose aplatonicflux

“ trans & perma ids . . transshadow ( link ) , transsonic ( link ) , transtatto , marshmallowamian , galaxmigalactablood , chocookiescentien , sugarscentien permasilly , permafidgeting , permacollared , permabandaged , permahandbandaged

[redtail-lol]

Yea sure.

Good Faith is a basic concept that's applied to lesboys and gaybians but is actually a lot more broad than that scope. Good faith means that someone is doing something with no ill will, or good intentions. If an identity is said to be good faith, then it means that despite controversy, it is identified with in earnest, not with malicious intent to invade or erase other people's identities as exclusionists often say. If a question is asked in good faith, it means the asker is genuinely looking for an answer and is willing to accept it, not attempting to start an argument or have a gotcha moment. You are actually showing an example of a good faith question right now! Good job.

A lesboy is anyone who identifies as both a lesbian and a boy. This label is primarily used by multigender individuals, such as bi/tri/etcgender people, genderfluid people, pangender people, and others who identify as fully or partially more than one gender, with one of those genders being "man" or man-aligned. However, it is also used by man-aligned nonbinary people like demiboys, solarians, libramascs, and xenoboys, butches who use the word "boy" to express their masculinity, and trans men who do not feel misgendered by the lesbian label and find it more comfortable than calling themselves straight. It's also sometimes used by "cis men" who later come out as transfem, finding the lesbian identity easier to accept first and using lesbian identity as a way to explore their gender and come to fully cracking their egg. In that case, it's usually a temporary identity.

Gaybians are people who are both gay/veldian and lesbian. The people who use the term are almost always genderqueer, be that nonbinary, multigender, genderfluid, outherine, agender, xenic, androgynous, neutrois, or anything else. I have yet to personally see anyone who's strictly aptobinary using the term gaybian. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying I haven't seen it. They are also usually multiattractional or multioriented, being either users of the split attraction model or abrosexual. Less commonly, gaybians can be using historical definitions of gay and lesbian that were non-exclusive to express multisexuality (bi/pan/poly/omni/etc) that is gay in both directions. Alternatively, gaybian can also be a term used by systems who have both gay and lesbian headmates, and are trying to create a collective identity by combining the orientation labels of different headmates.

Hope this helps, I would have put this in the replies but they're restricted.

Is anyone able to explain Good Faith and/or Lesboys and Gaybians to much? We really don’t understand the concept and would like to learn <3

Sorry if bothering!

-Arthur

[bi-lethh]

can people please fucking listen to bi people when we say our attraction is to more than one/multiple genders? why do i keep seeing (and no hate towards pan/poly/omni people) non-bi multioriented people (who are technically bi+ yes but i’ll use non-bi multioriented people for simplicity) keep using the definitions “two or more,” “same and other,” and god forbid just “two.” bi people have CONSTANTLY asked that the fluid and more inclusive “multiple” or “more than one” definition be used and y’all still cannot seem to do that because you INSIST that “two” needs to be in there somewhere. it doesn’t. it really doesn’t. please for the love of god listen to bi people i am begging you.

[yourfavusescontradictorylabels]

What does that mean

Mspec: Multisexuality is an umbrella term for any form of attraction to more than one gender. It is synonymous with m-spec (multioriented spectrum), along with all other terms that broadly describe attraction to multiple genders (i.e. pluralian, bisexual, etc). It can describe individuals who are pansexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc, or can be used as a stand-alone identity if one does not wish to specify their sexuality further.

Mono: Monosexual refers to someone who is attracted to a single gender. Monosexual refers both to exclusively gay individuals, straight individuals, and anyone else who is attracted to a single gender. It is typically used by bisexuals/multisexuals to refer to anyone who is not bispec or mspec.

Combine the two words and you kind of get an idea of what an mspec mono is. But if you need an example then think of someone who identifies as bisexual and gay or someone who identifies as pansexual and lesbian.

If you need a bigger idea of what an mspec mono/gay/lesbian/straight is, here's a really good post I made a while back exploring what an mspec mono is a little bit more and explaining why someone may identify this way.

[liomstargloww]

hello i saw your post on your other account about the -oriented label and im very excited about it i was wondering if you could con panoriented (if you havent already) /nf

decided to make more than just panoriented :D

bioriented | homoriented | multioriented omnioriented | panoriented polyoriented | veldioriented/turioriented | vincioriented

i completely forgot about lesbian hold on one sec hJKADGF will do more soon-

[anaalnathrakhs]

Alternative Multioriented-Spectrum System (AMSS)

Are YOU tired of panphobia in the bi community and biphobia in the pan community? Are YOU tired of discourse about what each label means? Worry no more my friend, your friendly neighborhood m-spec person is here to help. 

Three words to define your m-spec orientation without decades of more-or-less trans-friendly/nonbinary-friendly history behind them

Di- (disexual, diromantic, diplatonic, disensual, etc)

From ancient greek δι, meaning “two” or “double”

Attraction to two genders

Holo- (holosexual, holoromantic, holoplatonic, holosensual, etc)

From ancient greek ὅλος, meaning “whole”

Attraction to all genders

Pluri- (plurisexual, pluriromantic, pluriplatonic, plurisensual, etc)

From latin plures, meaning “numerous” or “multiple”

Attraction to multiple genders, but neither less than three nor all of them

If you don’t want to use these terms for any reason you may want to check the Juvelic System, to encompass both your orientation and your gender identity/a simplification of your gender identity.

If you see a problem with this system, or have any question about it, please feel free to send an ask to my blog or a pm. 

If you decide to coin more terms fitting in the AMSS/design a flag or multiple flagsfor these words, please tag me or send me a link, I’d love to see this!

Please note that none of these definitons indicate how I define their equivalents in the traditional m-spec system. I do not think every bioriented person is attracted to exactly two genders (and/or that these genders are men and women). 

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Monospec Pride Flag

Mono-spec (mono- spectrum): an umbrella term for identities related to experiencing attraction to one gender [plus affection/relationships involving one gender].

The spectrum includes those who are exclusively attracted to sole one singular gender only (suptilic), and those who are fluid (i.e. abro-, novo-, amplusic), multioriented/centrioriented, varioriented/variangled, also mspec (multispec), cupiospec, orchidspec, or otherwise a-spec (e.g. arospec, acespec, aplspec, etc.) [along with other possible combinations].

For example, someone who is both gay and bi could consider their homo attraction as monospec. Lesbihets/straightbians could be monospec as a result of being multigender/genderfluid (could be a form of novosexuality). Anattractional viramorics or feminamorics could be monospec because of their affection or relationships, instead of their lack of attraction.

[genderstarbucks]

im curious, would a multioriented person be considered mspec? https://www.tumblr.com/haunted-thing/725423147928666113/multiorienation?source=share

Depends on the person! For me personally, yes, but for others maybe not