#pdid fragment

[chemicalcarousel]

how can i tell the difference between a fragment and an alter i just don't know that well yet?

i think there's someone who's been lurking in the background, but i'm not aware if they have any awareness, role, personality, ect. i have a vague feeling of how they look and maybe some personality traits, but i have no idea if i just made up an oc subconsciously to fit with how i was feeling. but maybe she's a fragment/alter who's sometimes influencing the front. and maybe she is a fully formed alter, but we just haven't gained communication with her yet

thank you for reading!

[fracturemythcouncil]

System who rarely switch and goes like 'oh hey we CAN switch! That means we can try those advices relying on switching!' only to act surprised that it's not how their system work, literally going Pikachu surprised face at how their system only really switches in times of distress

Anyways that's us rn, the fools we are lol

[syscultureis]

not really a plural culture thing, but i wanted to ask if you or anyone else had alters that are.. sort of fictives? like their identity was just floating around like a mystery until they or we saw a character and go oh of course thats them! and then suddenly that’s them now, but they didn’t really “start out” as a fictive, they just sort of “became” one??

We have a lot of fragments that do that.

Like they don't have a huge identity to start with, but then we go through something a little stressful, and they latch onto a character during that time and start to form into a full alter rather than a fragment

(this is a really poor way of explaining it but it's the best I can do as an out of the loop host lol)

[vampirecatprince]

Oough- our headspace is such a fucking disaster right now

Ves has been refusing to speak with me for weeks, we've split AT LEAST three new headmates, I think I fused with a fictive fragment earlier today, traits have been free-floating and are being reassigned randomly, I had probably THE worst headache of my life earlier today, and I'm honestly surprised I'm as lucid as I am considering everything?

[yourlocalnpd]

hey systems I would advise you to keep a certain number of things out of your bio because OSDDID inherently says a lot about your past and triggers so there are certain details only your close friends should know, and not just anyone perusing the internet

your age - predators are more than happy to fake their age to match yours. Being young and plural are unfortunately traits prone to manipulation

your headcount - aside from assholes fakeclaiming you, people can take it and use it against you.

who your trauma holders are, and, more generally, the roles of your alters. it's basically telling abusers who to target and who to avoid

any information about your littles whatsoever. For all the world knows, you have none. same with who age regresses.

any system descriptors beyond DID/OSDD1/PDID/etc. the internet does not need to know if you have complex DID or something like that; it's your trauma.

what your triggers are. people will try to trigger you on purpose. this includes front triggers

all your other disorders, particularly personality disorders - abusers can try to make you dependent, "favorite" them, avoid others, etc.

These aren't rules, and there are obviously different situations that call for different levels of privacy. Just use your judgment: who can see this? anyone who came across my blog or people I friended on simply plural? trusted friends on simply plural? Systems are very vulnerable to further abuse because of their fragmentation and trauma mindsets. Don't let anyone take advantage of that.

[gumy-shark]

^ this guy has guys and there's nothing you can do about it

kageyama ritsu is plural btw. to me. like at least a little bit

[echoes-in-the-multiverse]

"So, which alter is the real you?"

Written whilst the system was blurry.

This is a personal post with educational explanations.

This question insinuates a few misconceptions about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID).

Firstly, the word 'real' in this context implies that the asker believes only one dissociative identity truly exists, while the others are either fabricated or hallucinations. This misconception is not only dismissive but also reinforces the harmful stereotype that DID is not a legitimate condition. It perpetuates the false belief that individuals with DID are simply experiencing psychosis or should be misdiagnosed with a different disorder, such as schizophrenia. This misunderstanding can lead to a lack of proper support for those living with DID, who have distinct and valid identities formed as a response to trauma that initially began in early childhood. All dissociative identities within an individual are real. In DID, multiple dissociative identities have the ability to take executive control, allowing them to interact with the environment. However, the ability to take control should not be the sole measure of their reality. Disorders like OSDD and PDID also involve alters who may not be able to or reluctantly take executive control, yet they are equally real. The existence and significance of a part is determined by their role and presence within the system. 

Secondly, the question mistakenly separates the different parts of a person with DID as if they are distinct, individual entities. In reality, each part is a fragment of the whole individual, meaning that every part is the “real you.” This ties into the outdated concept reflected in the name "Multiple Personality Disorder," which suggests that a person with DID has multiple, fully-formed personalities. In truth, DID involves dissociative identities, each representing a fragment of one complete personality. When integrated, these fragments come together to form the singular personality of the entire individual.

This misunderstanding also leads to the belief that the main host is not an alter, and that only the other identities are. The host is an alter, there is no single "core" or "original personality". Many try to explain this through the analogy of a shattered bowl, asking, "If a bowl breaks, which piece is the original?" However, this metaphor doesn’t accurately represent DID because it implies there was once a whole, unbroken personality that fragmented. In DID, there was never a singular, intact "bowl" to begin with. The system’s personality remained divided due to amnesia and trauma and was never able to form one personality. 

A more fitting metaphor is that of a stained glass window. Each piece of stained glass is meticulously crafted to fit with the others, just as each alter in DID is formed by the brain to complement the others. If all parts were to integrate, they would form a complete personality just as a stained glass window is whole when its pieces are assembled. This analogy avoids the implication that something is "missing" or "broken" and instead highlights how each part is essential to the survival and functionality of the individual as a whole. Even when not assembled a stained glass window is not considered broken and people with DID are not broken.

This is a personal post with educational explanations.

Written whilst the system was blurry.

[sillystarspecs]

Sending love to unconventional systems!!

• Systems with less than 5 OR more than 100 alters

• Systems who remember their trauma but have emotional amnesia OR don't care/got over it (terrible wording but you get it)

• Systems with no internal communication OR perfect internal communication

• Systems without hosts

• PDID systems or front locked systems

• Little/middle heavy systems

• Systems with personality disorders OR

psychotic disorders

• Non-human heavy systems

• Delusional systems

• Systems living with their abusers

• Systems who forgive their abusers (no saying you have to, it is rare that you were abused by someone who deserves forgiveness)

• Open systems

• Systems with alters who refuse to accept the system exists

• Systems with trauma locked systems or alters

• Systems with abuser introjects

• Systems with alters who agree with the abuse

• Systems with alters who hate each other

• Systems with no inner-world / have Aphantasia

• Systems with huge inner worlds

• Systems with bad inner-worlds (that are triggering or actively dangerous)

• Persecutor heavy systems

• Systems with a structure (like a council of alters that make decisions)

• Systems with only fragments

• Systems who are strange!!!

You don't need to be textbook or be represented often to exist and be valid!!

(Og post was pro endo, so here it is for any anti endos who don't want to reblog a pro endo post <3)

[sophieinwonderland]

existential crisis time!! a plural rant

so being a PDID system with very high communication barriers and very low dissociation makes it hard to tell whats going on. and being a pDID system, we have me as a perinnial host, meaning i am permanently frontstuck and have trouble with getting to headspace. but i might also be a shell??? as in i dont truly have my own personality or at least its not dominant if someone else is fronting. which would explain why my kintype fragments have their own identities and personalities that i take on.

but ugh it makes it so hard to tell whats going on with my personality! is this an actual alter? is this a kintype fragment? am i just taking on the personality of characters and shit i like to compensate for my own lack of an actual personality?

its confusing as hell

That does sound confusing.

I was also thinking while reading this, what if, being a front stuck host means you have more experience to draw from and have a more expansive personality than the others.

Like, I imagine it's normal for singlets to have a huge array of different interests and behavior patterns. So if you are always in front, maybe that's what's going on. You might just have a much wider expanse of things that make up you while others in the system could be more focused. This could then give the illusion that you have less of a personality because you can't as easily nail your personality down to one given thing.

Especially since, when other members cofront with you, you're sharing their experiences. If they enjoy something, you're enjoying it with them. If they're miserable, you're sharing their pain. Then when others cofront, it just magnifies the parts of you that you share with them because of the passive influence.

Not trying to say this is what's going on. Just that this is something that popped into my head. Could a wide and diverse personality feel like less in comparison to more focused ones because it's not as simple to label and name what you are?

Hope my ramblings aren't giving you more to worry about. I just find it interesting. Whatever you are, however much of you that you determine is you, I want to wish you the best of luck figuring it out. 💖

[thecouncilofidiots]

We don't usually talk about heavy stuff, we're more rambles and shitposts

Serious things tend towards important activities like AAC @thecouncil-aac or our alterhumanity @thecouncilofcreatures

But some shit has been going down with our plurality, and I guess we wanted to talk about it

So, we're (we were?) polyfragmented with over 130 members

And I don't know if it's finally feeling safe/comfortable or being on our anti-psychotics or results from therapy, but system things have significantly quieted

We've only split 1 or 2 members in the past few months, and all the fragments we had are... well, they feel gone

Maybe they fused, maybe they're in stasis somewhere, maybe they got lost when we tried solidifying and organizing our system structure via therapy

But we only have 20 members who we suspect are active (and that's not even guaranteed, it can be even less - we're still trying to sense who is and isn't around)

It doesn't help that we have aphantasia and don't have an actual headspace - that'd make finding information easier

It's uncomfortable, we're so used to be in a state of constant stress, of splitting several times a week, of the constant noise and shifting in our mind, the fractured memories and missing information

Hell, I doubt we're even a DID system anymore - we're more fluid and close now (perhaps pDID? OSDD?), memories are more consistent, fronting is more consistent

We don't understand, and that's the scariest part

Why? Are we actually healing or are we just suppressing everything with meds? Will it worsen if we go off them? But we can't, our psychosis is awful

But it's so quiet

I feel so lonely without them

/responses allowed but not required

Edit

Going through, we have 5/6 members left...

That's less than what we started with (7/8)

[anti-endo-polyfragculture]

genuine question.

do you have to be a RAMCOA system to have PDID? we've "officially" self-dx'ed as PDID since its criteria fit what we experience (namely grayout/blackout amnesia, dozens of fully formed alters and many many fragments, and severely less obvious switching) but as we were reading the philosopher system's sources it said that it's caused by RAMCOA.

if it is RAMCOA-exclusive, then we can't use that term as we aren't a RAMCOA system. but the diagnoses of (regular) DID, OSDD, and UDD don't fit us either.

if you or anyone in the reblogs has any info on this, please please let me know. we've already been essentially made to use the wrong name for our disorder and it genuinely scares me to have to "re-diagnose" or wtv.

To our knowledge, we are pretty sure that polyfragmented DID is not RAMCOA exclusive...

Though, if it is we may have an issue /lh as this lovely person has stated, if anyone has information on this, feel free to reblog with it or otherwise spread the word!

[quietforest-system]

🌲: The Quiet Forest System Introduction

⊹ 𝚐𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚕 𝚜𝚝𝚞𝚏𝚏 ⊹

hi there! you can call us forest or fost; we're a polyfragmented, introject heavy DID/PDID system. we have about 250 known headmates, with lots of fragments and subsystems. bodily we are an adult, and we might post adult (not nsfw, but adult) content here. we are anti-endogenic as a system and will post about that as well.

last update: 11/1/24

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🌱 : miles ⑊ xe/they ⑊ 18, age slider ⑊ host, holder, academic ⑊

👾 : hero ⑊ they/she ⑊ 17-20 ⑊ cohost, holder, personal protector

⛓️ : ren ⑊ he/they ⑊ 19 ⑊ original host, frequent, holder ⑊

🛻 : ellie ⑊ she/her ⑊ 14 ⑊ sleeper, frequent, beard wear-er ⑊

🎸 : Glenn ⑊ He/Him ⑊ 39-42 ⑊ Protector, caregiver, 'dad', introject ⑊

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[delphientropy]

please read our DNI before interacting. thank you!

actually, i honestly wanted to talk about our innerworld and system functions in general for a while. so im gonna talk about my system experiences for once i guess

for as long as we realized we were a system (which must have been around a year or less now) we always doubted ourself because our system was just... weird. thats why i never talked about it. i was very afraid of being fakeclaimed.

we do split from stress and trauma, and some of us do have jobs, but oddly, so many of us dont have any jobs at all. it seems like i, the host, do almost everything and am the sole provider of the system, and if i went dormant, everything would probably just collapse.

our innerworld is SO fucking weird. we have no idea whwere our dormant alters go- or most alters, really, because not that many alters have any access or memory of any innerworld. the sections in the innerworld are categorized by source (oddly, source plays a huge part in our system functioning for whatever reason), and even then its all so fuzzy and messy and off.

it all looks like the incomplete worldbuilding of a kid. loopholes, unanswered questions, random splits and no roles, nothing is organized and everything is chaos- bad memory, basically only one alter is doing everything ever and hes fucking stressing out (and nothing we can do about it because he cant voluntarily leave), random islands in fucking space— what about the oxygen? it really just screams made up fantasy world some child made. like our entire system is run by some small imaginative kid whos obsession for fiction and fantasy and chaos and yet also control while being disorganized.

ive been told many times that our coping mechanism is to avoid. forget. distract. comfort. thats why we have a MILLION fictives. its like a machine in the back of our mind, always humming, always making more fragments that act like characters we know and find comfort in. nah they dont have a role theyre just. there. it doesn't make sense. theres no gatekeepers, rarely protectors, just fictives. fictives with no roles just fictives and fictives and more fictives. one day itll work. every problem will go away if we just make more fictives, the machine whispers. if we just have more comfort, all of it.

i guess it all ties into our kind of trauma and our other disorders which cause chaos and disarray. everything is unexplained. the random pain. dormancy. the entire innerworld itself. its seems complex and structured on the outside, and it sure is creative, but theres no structure. its a kid throwing multiple concepts together to make a really dumb world and a dumb story with it.

if i could make it organized and make it function, i would, but i can barely see it. i cant make up shit and suddenly our brain functions normally. i cant pretend like our innerworld doesnt have patches and holes and never answered questions. i cant trust anything and suddenly it all works. thats why i dont like a lot of the advice im given. "just trust that your alters wont fuck it up and youll switch more!" i do trust them. there are some i trust with my entire being. but i just cant switch. it wont let me leave. im that inner childs favorite character, favorite doll, that needs to be out of the toybox at all times.

im so scared to try and get diagnosed or just any kind of help. because im sure i sound absolutely bonkers when you read all of this. but its a frustratingly bad functioning system. and currently, the only option i have is to just stay in front and do everything. i initially thought i had PDID for this reason, actually. im like the ""main alter"" but i certainly dont have any control over our world. i dont know what to do. and with how therapists keep abandoning me, i wish i could just heal and figure it out by myself. but i cant.

[syscultureis]

Having a fragment just kind of wandering around with no solid form but they repeatedly try and cling onto any source possible and they've done this six times like mate pls you're confusing everyone-

We struggle with this too, and on top of that we have a shapeshifter who has identity crisises all the time and becomes fictional characters to cope so we never know when we actually get a new fictive or not ;-;

[caeliangel]

i dont know how to ask this since it may sound a bit personal but could you tell me a bit of your experienced as an osdd1a system? I am questioning if i am one but i can never find people talking abt osdd1a , its always ossd1b , pdid or did + 😭 its okay if not, im just curious

So one of the first thing that I experienced was seeing people in my head but not just from imagination nor psychotic episodes, I could actually interreact with a younger version of me, Cel, who's like, myself stuck in the ages of 6-7. I then realized that whenever I'd do bad things, I could intereact or be influenced by someone that reminded me a lot of my mom (negatively, sort of). This is more like the specific experiences of my system, but I also had multiple versions of me that would influence and intereact me through the day, but then sometimes, they would completly disappear. Osdd 1a is weird, murky and fuzzy. Are they really me? Are they really alters? I'm not sure. I call them fragments. It's like experiencing being a shattered piece of glass, literally. I also have blackouts but thats not needed!! Plurality is very complicated, especially my own plurality to myself.

What do you experience / do? I'd be happy to hear ^_^

Edit: describing my plurality is really hard for me because I usually ignore it and go on with my day. And the only fragment I share an headspace with is Cel, and I struggle to talk with her.

[help-an-alter]

This may be an odd question but fragments are the terminology that seems to escape us the most so far as definition goes. We're, I believe, a pdid system and while a lot of us have to my understanding fully fledged personalities and such, but also sometimes feels like we may be a bit more one dimensional to the host especially? (not out of disrespect). Sorry if this is the wrong space for this but figured it was worth asking! Hope you have the sweetest day <3

hi so the wording of this definitely confused me. if you're asking for the definition of a fragment, it's an alter that may have formed for one thing, doesn't have a full personality, or may feel not like a full alter. this account is mainly for fragments but alters who have trouble with their identity may also get help here!

feeling one dimensional can be common from what i understand, if you need help feeling "full", you can send an ask in!

if this doesn't answer your question, you can send another one in and another mod or i can respond better. ~ mortuary