#pro timsteph

[punkeropercyjackson]

Local cis woman thinks she slammed the patriarchy because she crushes on bad boy characters instead of goody two shoes male protagonists

[jasontoddssuper]

Tim Drake antis are so stupid to me as someone with a 17 year old brother who acts exactly like him.Abusive this,toxic that,no you'll notice that is actually a teenage boy

[welcometogrouchland]

[ID: An animatic of Stephanie Brown as Robin set to Tears over Beers by modern baseball. The images are paired with the lyrics. Stephanie as spoiler staring longingly at Bruce, Tim and Cass on a rooftop is paired with "he needed more than me". A compilation of sketches of Steph as robin go with "im friendly and thoughtful and quite awfully pretty". Finally a redraw of Steph's firing as Robin is paired with "but he needed more than me". End ID]

been trying to finish a comic for. Weeks now (just been hitting a lot blocks) and quickly threw this together as a break from it! Do you guys ever think about Stephanie Brown…

[spite-and-waffles]

Pros and cons of stealing a very delicious JayTim plot from an author who bashes Steph and Damian in what seems like every fic they write, without tagging the character hate, despite repeatedly being asked to, who also puts that shit in the TimSteph tag. Discuss.

[the-shark-is-a-mammal]

Amg, por favor me ajuda! Como é que vc acha que tá indo as vendas da HQ do Tim? Eu tô muito preocupado pq eu só vejo homofóbico e fãs chatos de timsteph jogando hate. E alguém no twitter deu a entender que viu os números de venda das duas primeiras edições e parece que não ta vendendo bem ( mas eu não consegui achar em lugar nehum qualquer tipo de número de vendas desde agosto então eu não sei de onde essa pessoa tirou isso). Sério, eu tô amando tanto TD:R, tá sendo tudo o que eu queria pro Tim há anos mas eu não consigo mais nem ler uma edição nova sem ficar com medo de que série seja cancelada.

Oi! Desculpa só responder agora, eu não tinha visto a mensagem antes, mas é acho que o pior aconteceu. Foi mesmo cancelada. Eu fiquei bem deprimido, pq eu tava amando aquela série, mas enfim, fazer o quê. Vamos torcer pra que pelo menos o Tim e o Bernard continuem juntos, mesmo que não tenhamos uma dose mensal deles.

[ahoforaveryho]

It’s official. My hatred for Steph anti’s has officially outweighed my hatred for TimSteph and now I ship them out of spite.

Long live TimSteph, I guess.

Still hate the little fucker and that will never change.

[batfamquotes]

if you’re out here thinking timsteph is incest you’re a fucking idiot

please explain to me how they’re related oh wait they aren’t

how stupid do you have to be to think that’s batcest? have you never picked up a comic book or done any research before running your mouth?

stephanie, unlike the other robins, was never adopted by bruce wayne or one of his biological kids

do you morons think dickbabs is incest too because they’re also members of the batfam?

being in the batfam is not the same thing as being members of the wayne family. for example, luke fox is batwing. he is a member of the batfam, but he is not a member of the wayne family, he’s a member of the fox family. so if he were to say, be shipped with, for example, dick grayson, it wouldn’t be incest because, say it with me now: they are not related by blood or adoption!

so if you’re out here thinking timsteph is incest just because they’re in the batfam even though they aren’t related, and you post hate in the tags, again, you’re an idiot, you have brain worms, and you deserve to have your eyelids ripped off

[phoenixkaptain]

Why would you want to ship one thing when you can ship everything? Variety is the spice of life.

[everydayily]

if your ships are not “relationships goals” you’re doing something wrong

[thatblondeperson]

What's your favorite timsteph moment from comics and what's one you've written?

Oh man, I have too many!!

Favs tho:

Their first date in Robin issue #57 and the moment at the end.

Neither of them wants the night to end, but just loOK AT TIMMY!!!! He's so happy that he just has to do a little flip on the swings, it's the cutest shit ever. And even though this next panel is from Convergence: Batgirl, it still is a part of this date and it's too cute not to add into the compilation of dorks being in love. LOOK AT IT.

Do you know how many times I've made this my wallpaper? Too many times.

Also this itty bitty bit of a page from RR issue #10:

Do you see it? Allow me to read too much into something. (And I don't even mean Tim still feeling like it's his job to protect Steph)

It's this.

This is my Ao3 pic and I'm gonna be a massive fangirl and say that even though this isn't like an official kiss, it's one of my favs because Tim's eyes are just ever so slightly open, like he wants to keep them on her. You've got both of them with those gentle touches on their jaws. Not to mention the subtext of Tim's memory of this being in pink, giving it a literal rose-tinted view, meaning this is a positive, optimistic, idealistic memory. Now these could mean many things, but given the nature of their relationship in RR, I'd say this is a sign of Tim forgiving the past a bit. He's not thinking negatively about Steph, he's remembering working together and being in love. It's cute, and imo displays some of those lingering feelings pretty blatantly. Your ex I'd about to be shot and you're thinking about how you two used to make out?? Priorities, Tim. (RR Tim was way too horny 🤣)

Plus next page you get this:

Look who's in love again.

LOOK AT HIM.

And this, in Robin issue #102:

I will never be over that intense look on Tim's face when he's planning on making Steph soup, it's just so intense! MUST MAKE MY SICK GIRLFRIEND THE PERFECT SOUP!!

And then he carries a massive pot of soup across Gotham and on the subway to get it to her. He loves her 🥰🥰🥰

And don't forget their whole date in Robin issue #111. The infamous piano date. Like I've said it before, @incoherentbabblings just made a post about it, but Tim and Steph aren't great at communication or opening up about difficult things. This arc is one of the better ones for their domestic growth, but I just love how vulnerable she allows herself to be in front of Tim, and how respectful and supportive he is of her. Is this sort of thing I wish we could see more from them, then leaning on each other and finding a space in each other that they don't have anywhere else. Little things like this that when over time it builds up, you end up with a relationship where they know each other so well, and can read each other easily. It's a special bond that they have, not broken even if they aren't romantically linked.

Also these, which are old edits by @fragileicicle I believe? But I love the quotes. They give me heart palpitations.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😭😭😭

They were so in love.

BUT HEY YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT MY FAV MOMENTS IN MY FICS!!

Which hey, thank you, I always wanna talk about my fics. People should ask me about my fics. Gonna put it under the cut though to not be annoying...

There's a lot of little things I like in my fics. I loved writing drunk Tim in Un-Bottled Feelings, especially the idea of him trying to picture a bigger Arkham built around the current Arkham to stop the breakouts. I just like the image of him strategically planning that out as a viable solution to keeping the worst criminals locked up instead of running amok.

I just loved writing completely helpless Tim being super flirty. The loss of inhibitions allowing him to be subconsciously unfiltered. It was fun! Though I need to fix that fic...the pros and cons list doesn't format right on mobile. Alas...

I really like the simplicity of Kisses From Tim Drake. I just saw a list of kisses and I was like "WHY NOT ALL OF THEM??" Any excuse I have to write happy couple TimSteph being affectionate and sweet with each other, building a relationship and whatnot.

For Finding My Way Back to You, just getting to write their flirtatious banter was fun, giving them a punchy back and forth. It's really fun in their first collision in their suits when Steph continuously calls him her potential sidekick. I like giving her the upper hand a little bit, even if I wanted them to end up in equal ground.

The whole Tim/Kon/Bart interaction in ch 5 was SO FUN! That was a chunk I had written way back before that fix was even written. I knew I wanted if in the fic, I just didn't know where. The whole bit with Tim climbing into her window at the end because he's scared of her mother, but he's just reminiscing on days when he used to merch out there smitten with her.

I kinda liked doing things like that in that fic, rewinding and resetting. The smack to the face, the casual Tim stalking, the coming in through the window, the usage of Scarecrow since he appeared in turning point fights for both of them, the starting over at the playground. A sort of "go back to the beginning to move forward" sort of therapy for both of them.

LOVED getting to address Tim's burn scars. Such a point of tension for both of them, but there's so much potential in allowing them to be a healing symbol for the two of them as well.

The whole little "not date" in ch 9. Funny thing about that...I pulled R-Patz name out of thin air because I assumed this fic is taking place in like 2011 and I looked up popular actors of the time, and of course Twilight was huge...but then after I wrote that he got cast as Batman and I just decided to keep it. It was perfect.

I got to do so much either this fic. I pulled out every cliché, I got to write jealous Tim, horny Tim which was recieved better than I thought it would be, I got to write Tim slowly opening up more and being more relaxed and carefree, a side of him we only got in internal monologues by RR it seemed, I liked writing Tim trying to apologize fof being a jerk while they're both in the middle of a hand-to-hand fight, I liked writing a new piano scene which no lie, that almost kiss was also drafted well before I'd even written ch 1. I loved getting to name Tim's fishies too. They deserved names.

I think the things I think of the most with that fic when I looked back on it were:

The scene talking about Steph's death. I saw a post saying that Tim doesn't have to apologize for that and people who expect her too are being ridiculous yadda yadda, but much ruder. And here's the thing...no she doesn't have to apologize for running off without telling anyone, that was her decision and she had her reasons, but that does not mean she wouldn't. People were still deeply affected by her absence and the grief of losing her. I loved writing this little bit especially:

"It's alright," Tim said, pulling out of their hug. Come back… He brought a hand up to her face and stroked her cheek lightly with his thumb. His hands really did feel nice, so incredibly nice. "I can't pretend to understand everything you went through, but I just… I wish you would have told me."

Stephanie leaned forward, letting her forehead rest against his, staring into his pale blue eyes. "Would you have let me go?"

Tim stared right back into her eyes, and Steph could have melted into his touch. "Would you have listened to me?" 

Steph smiled softly. Of course she wouldn't have, and Tim knew that because he knew her. Nearly every last piece of her. It was easy to feel safe with him. She wondered how much Tim felt the same in regards to her. 

I just loved that section of dialogue. This whole scene of them breaking through some of the worst of their shared wounds, all while tim is stitching up a physical wound? I'm just really proud of myself for that.

The whole ch 18 talk/kiss interaction was originally very different but there's one paragraph in there that I desperately love in regards to Stephanie drinking her peppermint tea.

It tasted like Tim. Like late nights on rooftops poking fun at other heroes, watching the way Gotham came awake at night, making constellations with the lit up windows on the buildings when they couldn't see the stars, locking lips while the ambient sounds of the city rumbled around them. She gripped the mug tightly and brought it close to her chest while Tim cleared his throat, tapping nervously on the side of his own mug.

The whole point of that fic was to cover EVERYTHING. I read so manh panels of do many comics, trying to get all of their low points and traumas out on the table so I could go through them in the most constructive and healthy way possible while still playing true to their tendency to kind of be hot and cold with each other before they find a comfortable thermodynamic equilibrium space. Getting them to air out their skeletons so they can move on and start anew. I've wanted to write that fic since I got hooked on that ship. It's my masterpiece.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ASK!!!! I'm sorry this was so long, I loved this question though. This took me forever to write up. I'm doing g this on mobile with like...10 tabs open. But thank you!!!! ❤💜

[danny-chase]

24 35 and 45

24. Ship(s) that makes you cringe.

Incest ships (fr why is j*yd*ck the most popular relationship in the JOSEPH WILSON tag y'all need help). DonnaDick makes my heart hurt. DamiRae, WallyRae, DonnaTerry, JayRoy, joyfire, DonnaJay, BBrae, JayKyle simply confuses me, TimSteph, DonnaWally, DamiJon, BruBabs, JayBabs, TimBabs, HarveyBabs, KoryRoy, if DickJon or ConnerJay becomes a thing because they're interacting in canon rn those ones too. I don't necessarily cringe at birdflash or TimKon but I feel like they're overdone and there's more interesting ship dynamics out there, and they highly centered around the batboy and rarely explore the non-batfam member.

35. Have you read any bad comic book PSA’s?

Yes! Robin 1993 has a pro-life awful psa that i read, as well as a few random teenage gambling informal psa's shoehorned in for undiscernible reasons.

45. What’s the worst take you’ve seen about [x] (popular or not)?

(specified Raven later). Joking takes from discord are pretty cursed, I think the worst one there was Terry licks her toes (gives me damage typing it). I think the popular take that's really been limiting her character and doing the most damage to her is that she's goth.

[punkeropercyjackson]

'Teenage boy characters acting stereotypically teenage boyish is worse than male characters being straight up bad people and that's why teenage girl characters dating the latter is a female fantasy' is such an insane ass take and i'm fucking loosing it at the fact that so many people still get away with it.What is this privileged ass and patriachy brainwashed 'praising men for less than the bare minimum' bullshit

[jasontoddssuper]

Not to expose myself as an eldest sibling who spends a lot of time in fandoms but i think only children should be oppressed

[incoherentbabblings]

i'm kinda interested in what the press thinks of Stephanie and by extension Timsteph

I guess it depends on the angle of bigots or biases!

Cons for Steph:

Crappy father, mother a former drug addict, comes from a meh neighbourhood and background, was a teen mum, not exactly up to par with high society norms and keeps putting her foot in it.

Pros for Steph:

Long history of knowing members of Wayne family (Cass and Tim) before ascension into extreme wealth, demonstrably close with other close members like Damian and Babs, Cinderella angle of being a victim of circumstance and being an underdog, thriving in adversity, paying herself through college, working a part time job and close relationship with local Gotham hero Leslie Thompkins, sympathy angle of victim of gang war who got her life back together and is thriving...

IIIIIIIIIIiiii think it would be a situation where - and I kind of touched on it in a couple of my fics - where the press would like her actually. Finding the Cinderella angle too neat to ignore. 

The general public would probably like her as a result (not to compare to like actual royalty but I think of the absolute fawning that Diana, Kate and Meghan got when the first got married... like that level of awe for what sometimes looks like simply existing) because again, underdog story everyone loves a fairytale etc... and Steph would have the drive to keep admirable works and actions going, enough to build her up a lot of good will.

Gotham high society would absolutely loathe her though. Interloper, social climber etc. Luckily their opinions don’t mean shit and Steph would continue on her merry way. 

I can totally see it going the other way though. I can see an argument for old money that can be more accepting of the different than new money, as they have ‘less to prove’ and are more stable in their superiority. Less likely to be threatened by one nice white blonde girl. However the press and general public can be vicious as we all know. 

I’m coming at this from a very British perspective though. I don’t really know if American press or society would behave like that. So uh, happy for a discourse if need be?

[sohotthateveryonedied]

I was playing BitLife (don’t judge me) and one of the automatically generated law firms was Brown & Drake, and now I’m just thinking of Lawyer!Timsteph. Steph insisted her name would go first because it would “scare off all the people who think you’ll defend them because they’re your dad’s friends.” They have a very Kirsten McDuffie/Matt Murdock relationship. They take too many cheap or pro bono cases because they just can’t resist.

I LOVE THIS

[bludhavan]

✨ about me/byf ✨

ABOUT ME

• my name is maryse (pronounced may-ris)

• nineteen, she/her, straight, asian

• dc comics, studio ghibli, avatar the last airbender, legend of korra, marvel, and occasionally aesthetics

• entp 

• aries

• my main ships: dickkori, jayroy, joyfire, midpollo, superbat, dicktiger, timsteph, stephcass, & katerenee

• blacklisted: gore, vore, blood 

• i love jason todd, damian wayne, jaime reyes, cassie sandsmark, koriand’r, bart allen, & stephanie brown

• i’m a multifandom blog but most of my posts and original content will be about dc comics

• urls that i have used and/or saved: babaragordons, dameianwayne, helenabrtenelli, babara-gordon, wondergjrl, bludhavem, bbartallen, bartahlen, bludhavn, kanesbette, stepaniebrown

BEFORE YOU FOLLOW

don’t follow me if: 

• you’re an insensitive asshole who can’t shut up about the characters you dislike 

• you’re above the age of 25

• you believe in shipping whatever you want

• you are pro-trump

• you’re an adult and you support or produce content sexualizing minors 

• you ship inc*st / pedoph*lia / abuse (bat boys with each other, bat boys and bruce, shaladins, etc.) 

• you are racist, homophobic, sexist, a terf, etc. 

• you are friends or associate with anyone who does any of the above

READ COMICS

*italized are favorites*

• teen titans (2003) 

• young justice (1998)

• the new 52: batman & robin 

• grayson

• the new teen titans

• robin: year one

• robin: son of batman

• batman: the long halloween

• batman: dark victory

• red hood & the outlaws

• red hood: lost days

• batman & robin eternal

• batman & robin (2009)

• injustice: gods among us

• batman (2016)

• batman (2011)

• robin war

• batman incorporated 

• li’l gotham

• supersons