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pink-devolve · 1 year ago
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As someone who is a programmed PF-DID system, we need to stop using the term HC-DID. Here’s why ⬇️
1. The system that coined the term is a groomer and is anti-semitic. There is evidence(some screenshots included below) of the MayMay system(The 20y/o coiner of the term) being sexual towards minors up to 5 years younger than them. In MayMay’s discord server, 15 year olds are allowed in NSFW channels that have sexting in them. MayMay has joked about sexually assaulting a 16 y/o. There is a 15 year old that seems to always be with MayMay, and constantly talks about interacting with MayMay in a NSFW context. Etc etc etc. There have also been screenshots of MayMay using the term “Jew” as a derogatory insult.
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2. The term excludes programmed systems that do not have a highly complex case of DID Many programmed systems can not use the term “HC-DID” due to having OSDD, not having PF-DID, etc. All programmed systems have distinct differences from non-programmed systems, but programmed systems without a highly complex case of DID don’t have a straightforward term to describe their experience. I’ve seen a lot of people use the term HC-DID and programmed interchangeably, and imo that’s not fair to other survivors trying to find community.
3. You can have a highly complex case of DID and not be programmed. You can have trauma that is just as extreme as the trauma experienced by programmed systems, end up with a highly complex case of PF-DID, and not be programmed. I’ve met some non-programmed PF-DID systems with insane system structures. One system I knew was not programmed, but had hundreds of different alters, all with very specific roles, hierarchy, and layers, that all fronted to do very specific tasks. They told me they had a specific alter who fronted to wash their hands, and another specific alter who fronted to sleep on wednesdays. Their case could absolutely be considered highly complex, but again, they weren’t programmed.
4. We have terms used/created by professionals, that don’t have any of these issues. The terms mind-controlled DID (MC-DID) and Torture based mind control DID (TBMC-DID) have both been coined by professionals, can be used with other plural disorders(MC-OSDD), or to describe all plural disorders at once(MC-system), can’t be used to describe non-programmed systems, etc.
Overall, I don’t have an issue with individuals that use the term HC-DID, I just think it’s annoying that it’s the default way to say “programmed system”. I honestly think the term is a fine way to describe systems with a highly complex structure, and should still be used in that context. But if we do that, the term should be open to non-programming survivors as well. There is absolutely no reason to fight over this term. It’s really not that deep. But if you’d like to debate respectfully I am happy to.
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brightside-brigade · 3 months ago
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Questioning and exploring potential possibilities: Partial/incomplete programming aka "frameworking"
READ WHOLE POST BEFORE RESPONDING SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO.
The purpose of this post is to note down what I've noticed before my brain eats it all again and see if anyone else has similar experiences, or if what I'm experiencing in sys is something else. Also because I find it interesting as I've always been fascinated by how our system functions and all that.
Disclaimers:
1: I am not directly/for sure claiming to be a programming or TBMC/ OEA / RAMCOA survivor. These are observations I've made within our system that has some similarities to accounts we've heard as well as stranfe happenings within our own system. I fully understand this may not be what's happening.
2: the term partial is used because if the hypothetical is true, nothing ever came of the potential programming, or it was never fully utilized, hence "frameworking,"
3: keep syscourse off this post and our blog. Despite the overall stance of this particular subgroup of the plural community, we are pro endo and consider ourselves mixed origins for multiple reasons. Any hate regarding this will be blocked at best or reported at worst. This post and our blog is not the place for that. Move on if you don't have anything nice to say.
4: in that vain, fake claimers can also swallow a full cactus. Any aggression will be ignored, blocked, or reported.
TW below cut for discussion of the above mentioned topics.
Disclaimer 2: if any of this is unclear, I apologize. I'm having to fight through a bunch of dizzy to write about this and I'm fueled by spite and spite alone.
With that out of the way let me get into the meat of the this.
We are bodily 22, and have known we're a system for six years now, give or take. This is a rough estimate. I am Jack, the current host, hi. Roughly last year I learned about programming in systems, and all that came with it. I got briefly fixated on the topic, as I generally tend to gravitate towards morbid or dark subjects. This does not mean I condone or romanticize them, I'm sure we've all been there.
Regardless, it was last year I started to notice in-sys happenings that point to something being up. I took a step back from looking into the subject as I suspected the fixation may be what was causing it, but after roughly a year of noticing things still going on, and old reactions returning upon looking into the subject, I suspect maybe something is up.
I'm progressvly getting more and more pain in my head and neck as I type this and I'm straight up forgetting words. , so I'll keep my points simple.
I'll start with points on why we "probably aren't" programmed.
We have never been a part of any cult or TR, nor has the bodies family had history of those.
Our body does not show symptoms of long term physical abuse (scars, permanent pains, ect.)
We live a normal life currently. (Not saying survivors can't have normal lives or that everything in our lives is pleasant. But we live relatively safely in our childhood home, ect.)
I cannot find a way to fit long term abuse into our timeline. Some trauma, yes. Anything OEA or RAMCOA levels? Not currently.
Those out of the way, I'll now note what I've noticed over time.
General interest in programming with a felt sense of familiarity
On a couple times, I've been able to guess and help with things going on in friends programming (I am not claiming to be able to help or know everything. I am not someone to come to for advice. This is just to point out how on a few times I've shown understanding on the subject I probably wouldn't usually have.)
in my case particularly, I overall tend to be more submissive in actions but not personality. My main concern is usually geared towards helping others and not myself, to the point of experiencing emotional shutdown when others around me are distressed so I can better help them. I also desperately seek praise and affection
I also struggle to do self care things without permission, including the bare minimum of eating and sleeping.
To further this, after learning about programming, I off and on deeply desire a handler
I also find myself wanting to BE a handler, like it's what I should be doing when not helping others. (Note: I would never, I'm simply talking about thoughts and feelings that are not actions.)
Our system occasionally spawns in "blanks," as I've taken to calling them. Blanks are not fragments, but are more like empty vessels that hypothetically could be programmed, which I occasionally feel the urge to do but don't, as I don't know what effect it would have on us. They sort of just despawn after a bit.
Dizziness: it varies. If I read about this sort of thing in terms of what it means for us, I get dizzy. I actually got a migraine halfway through drafting it. If I think about it in relation to OTHERS, however, the Dizziness isn't caused.
This can be accompanied by the feeling of burning skin on the arms and head.
I struggle with thinking I'm constantly "bad," if I'm not actively doing something for others.
We have an alter that only shows up to cause dissociation when whoever is fronting is in distress, though this is rare and we have yet to figure out what kind of distress brings them out.
Headspace itself is very hard to explore, every time I try and go past a certain point I never remember what I see or find and always find myself back in the main hub.
Our system shows signs of being what I can only guess is the "main," one, the ones who upkeep the front, as we really only consist of those who would hypothetically be needed to keep up the day to day.
There is more, but I'll leave it here as those are the main ones I can pull up in my mind rn. Feel free to comment what this could be, or if you've experienced similar. Please refer to the disclaimer points before you make your comments. This took a couple hours to get out due to the migraine that onset but I cannot be stopped.
Thank you, have a lovely day/night/morning/afternoon/purgatory time/ect.
-Jack
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nosophoros-sys · 4 months ago
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hi so after my spiral about being not programmed or whatever, i think i am in some capacity, but i dont know if i fully am?
can that happen? can programming fail or not be completed? perhaps lazily done? does the person programming you need to be aware that they’re programming you? or know what it is? do they have to specifically know what DID is or anything like that?
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nikitasys · 1 year ago
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LIFE WITHOUT FILTER AS A TRAUMAGENIC POLYFRAG+PARTIALLY PROGRAMMED DID SYSTEM
TW : vent, rant, ramcoa, programming, su!c!de mention
(I'm in desperate need for advice, for some kind of guidance or support from other progged systems who may have gone through something similar to what we're describing in this post, or not but who may have ideas of what might be going on with us.)
I stg life has been so exhausting & I just have to unmask & say it SOMEWHERE.
We're a relatively newly discovered+diagnosed system since I realised we were one in August/September of last year (2023). Before that we had been misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder for several years.
When I first realised we were multiple, I progressively began discovering the other alters. The whole process (we're also in trauma therapy) was difficult & messy but overall as days went by I personally felt more & more satisfied to see/feel how much progress we were making, even with all the highs & lows it entailed. I got to meet & learn to know a few alters, we were able to work on some of our problematic in-sys dynamics & slowly but surely understand ourselves better, both as individuals & as a whole.
Long story short, we were PROGRESSING.
Then things got even messier as our trauma therapy caused even more lifting of the dissociative amnesia in our childhood & we progressively realised we were polyfrag & had been through RAMCOA & programming. (That happened end of February/beginning of March 2024)
The whole process was getting more & more chaotic & distressful but we (me + the rest of our group of main fronters) were pretty determined to figure things out & keep on going forward, which was extremely annoying to a bunch of programmed alters who immediately tried their best to keep us quiet/isolated & make us feel insane/terrified by trying to make us go back to our primary abuser, OR convince our psychiatrist to put us on antipsychotics & hospitalise us, OR leave the place we live in to go who-knows-where & ghost everyone we knew, OR off ourself etc... in a nutshell, it was really freaking hard.
But some of us were determined to keep trying to do what was best for us, to keep trying to get better, to gain at least some kind of free will, to LIVE.
I'm sorry, this post is way too long.
But anyway, now it's been a few months since I just don't know what's going on with us anymore. The veryyyy little visualisation I could have of our innerworld is gone, all the main fronters seem to have truly disappeared (mass dormancy?) as well as the vast majority of alters we had identified up to this day. It seemed that I was frontstuck for a long while, & now it's been a few weeks that alters just randomly pop up (whether they front or stay co-conscious) & then disappear almost immediately after as if nothing had happened & I just... I feel so lost.
It's all just so frustrating you know ? To me it truly feels like something MAJOR happened inside both to our innerworld + all the alters & I'm being deliberately locked away from the truth of what it is. I feel like I'm being punished, & tbh I probably am. I'm in a lot of denial about our programming but the whole thing definitely feels like one (or more ?) internal handler/programmer has been orchestrating some kind of system reboot or hardcore scramble or... I DON'T KNOOOW 😭 I just don't know anything anymore. It's like nothing ever happened & it's particularly distressing, you know ? It is SO weird to know deep down that massive stuff is going on inside yourself but at the same time you know nothing & it all makes me wonder if I ever knew anything in the first place ? These thoughts make me dizzy af. It just feels like since syscovery there was overall progress happening, & now there's just nothing. As if everything had been suddenly turned off & restarted or... I just don't know.
Anyway. I realise no one will read this post entirely, but if for some reason you are doing it, first of all congrats & also, THANK YOU.
Don't hesitate to contact us via DMs or comment if you have any questions or advice, we'll be more than happy to answer you to the best of our abilities. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP 🙏🏻
— host (I think?)
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coining-system-terms · 8 months ago
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Advenafide (remake) : an alter who holds a strong belief aliens are real, not because of science but because of the use of "aliens" as a OEA or ITBC tool
Fictusfide : an alter who believes in something that is not real due to that thing being used in ITBC against them.
Flag meaning: The grey shades in the center represent programming and trauma based mind control. The teals represent aliens and otherworldly creatures similar that were used as a tool. The reds represent things that are false, beings that are ficticious and were used as a tool.
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ghost-jester-sys · 1 year ago
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a reminder that we are traumatised
we are also M-HSN autistic and struggle with communication
(rant below the cut)
mentally, although we are 18, our capabilities are not that of an 18 year old.
i feel like especially systems who arent ramcoa/oea/etc survivors dont always understand that and it honestly hurts
like communication is not our strong suit, and this had lead us to fall victim (on many occassions) to manipulation and unsafe relationships because our "mental age" is incredibly inconsistent and much more immature than would be expected
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milo-by-the-fishtank · 4 months ago
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After you’ve been tortured, everything and nothing is too much stimuli
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celestialsyndicate · 1 year ago
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I decided I wanted look through some of our poetry today and wanted to post some I find.. a lot of our poetry is used as a way to vent things we don't otherwise know how to process.
I'll give this a Heavy TW: CSA (incxst), echoes of abusive language, and RAMCOA
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Let's mourn grandpa
The way his hands caressed my hips
Little red wagon
Push me
Push in to me
Your scratchy mustache kiss
Poison me
Liar Liar
Don't you love him
Cry Cry
You're supposed to cry
Break for him
You're making it up
Little slut
Ruin a dead man
Why?
I'll kill it out of you
Don't you dare talk
Let's go to church
Let them stalk
Stay till 3
Your life is ours
Don't you forget
You belong to me
Your words
Your body
Under our roof
You are mine to kill
Mine to train
You mean nothing
The father is the head of the house
Rotten girl
Poison words
The words we forced in to your mouth
You keep that sorry face shut
Put down the knife girl
You have no where to run
Your dreams
Your time
Your existence
Is Mine.
Don't you dare forget it
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sunshinesystem20 · 6 months ago
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People who don't believe RAMCOA/TBMC exists are basically denying that trafficking and cults exist
-Matthew
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ratinacoat · 8 months ago
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also m sorry for all the questions lol. what are ur thoughts on the terms torture/childhood torture? and how they compare to childhood abuse. and also sadistic abuse and how one knows it’s sadistic abuse and not abuse?
No need to apologize. I don't mind answering questions.
This will mention descriptions of abuse/torture
My thoughts on the term torture aren't anything much. As far as I'm aware it's not a term that shouldn't be used but I'm not going to know every term that is good or bad of course. It is still abuse but it is a severe type of abuse.
Torture is the act of severe physical or mental abuse to break someone (in this case a child) down. Why depends on the abuser, but the basic idea stays the same. It's a type of abuse that's used in programming/extreme conditioning. It's not different from abuse but rather a type of severe abuse.
Sadistic abuse I also don't have much thoughts on but what differs sadistic abuse from other abuse types is the sadistic aspect of it. To be sadistic is to enjoy inflicting physical or mental harm onto someone. If abuse is done for purposes of enjoyment/pleasure, it's sadistic.
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pink-devolve · 1 year ago
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One of the worst parts of being a ramcoa survivor is not having a space to talk about your story, because it’s too upsetting for other people to hear about.
Not only can I not vent about it, but I can’t even talk about the things I went through. I’ve had two therapists drop me because they couldn’t handle it. One time when I was in the hospital, my nurse started crying and had to go home for the rest of the day. One of my ex partners broke up with me because they didn’t feel comfortable being with a 🚦 survivor. And I didn’t tell any of them the heavy details of my abuse. Just me surviving something I was forced into was too much for them.
And that’s not unique, every ramcoa survivor I know that has tried to find help for their trauma has had similar experiences.
I’m lucky enough to have finally found a therapist that knows how to treat me. And a week ago I said something that had happened to me, and idk what happened. He jumped and said “oh my god” like he just watched someone get killed. He immediately apologized, but it hurt. Why did I have to go through something that is so revolting to everyone.
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ramblesofakio · 1 year ago
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If you don’t believe RAMCOA/TBMC is a genuine thing, please block me
I’m tired of seeing people post about how “it doesn’t exist” and say that “ramcoa doesn’t exist but the trauma does.” It’s irritating to be told what I went through doesn’t exist and does exist at the same time.
It’s important to hear survivors and to be able to understand that this shit happens and still does. Cults, trafficking rings, etc. they all happen. Just because you think that someone can’t force a system doesn’t mean it’s not possible. Do you know how much trauma that someone faces within shit like that? How easy it is for someone to see that there’s so much dissociation and use it against them?
I’m tired of so many people thinking that ramcoa survivors aren’t real. We are, we exist.
If you don’t believe it, please block me.
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ghost-jester-sys · 1 year ago
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wompwomp get shoutout posted:
@coining-ramcoa-terms
super epic blog!
if you're a ramcoa / programmed / oea / tbmc system, you are welcome to request terms and flags to help you understand and explore ways to explain your system or browse terms there
we personally are helping to design flags and will design a flag for a term if you request it!
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outnumberedsins · 5 months ago
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OEA Terms - Clinical/Academic vs. Community
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This post aims to provide comparisons and sources for OEA community terms and their academic counterparts. This is not a post that serves to say what terms are more valid or not, just a review. I may not be able to find references to everything, so if I say a term isn't clinical and it has been mentioned, feel free to correct me. This is a long one, so buckle in. This may be updated.
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Overarching Acronyms
for the sake of clarity, im going to use 'OEA' throughout this post to serve as the general acronym.
RAMCOA - Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Organized Abuse
RAMCOA stems from the ISSTD developed special interest group, the "Ritual Abuse Mind Control Organized Abuse Special Interest Group" (RAMCOA SIG) in 2008. [1] This, along with OEA, is the most common acronym used. There is a lot of controversy over this term, and much of the community has begun to switch to OEA.
OEA - Organized Extreme Abuse
From the ISSTD as well, emerging in 2020 as the previous SIG was renamed to "Organized and Extreme Abuse SIG." [2] This is believed to be because of the controversy surrounding the previously named group.
SRA - Satanic Ritual Abuse
An outdated term that comes from the satanic panic era in the 1980s. Much of the content that used this term is conspiracy-like in nature. However, some early OEA research (typically from 1990-2000) and books use this acronym and are genuine, so it requires a lot of critical thinking. [3][4]
RA, SA, CRA, ORA - Ritual Abuse, Sadistic Abuse, Cult (and) Ritual Abuse, Organized Ritual Abuse
These are more casual terms used in the 1990s-early 2000s before RAMCOA was established, when 'Satanic' was no longer accurate, and when there was a search to coin a new overarching term. Despite the name, these terms were used as overarching acronyms for things outside of RA as well. I've included these all in one due to their similarities and/or due to the fact they weren't used frequently. There are also a variety of other terms mentioned that I've noted in one of the sources below.[5, CRA] [6, SA][7, RA as a general term ][8, ORA, review of other terms]
DIDMCSRA - Dissociative Identity Disorder, Mind Control, and Satanic Ritual Abuse
A barely used term from 2016 coined by a community member. It seems to have existed very briefly and didn't extend past a couple of members. However, the community aspect provided is interesting.
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MC-Specific Terms
terms specific to mind control and programming
Programming
Programming generally has the same definition between the community and clinicians. It is defined as "systematic torture that blocks the victim’s capacity for conscious processing, and then employs suggestion and/or classical and operant conditioning to implant thoughts, directives, and perceptions in the unconscious mind, often in newly-formed trauma-induced dissociated identities, that force the victim to do, feel, think, or perceive things for the purposes of the programmer." [9]
TBMC/TBCMC - Trauma/Torture Based Mind Control/Trauma Based Coersive Mind Control
TBMC is a term that clinically describes programming. However, within the community, this term can expand to include other types of mind control as well. The earliest mention I can find of this term was in 2007. [9]
Scripts - "Structures."
The term 'Script' is a community term to describe a phenomenon in programming where programmers will utilize certain media to program system structure. I have a whole other post on this. The term Script itself comes from an unreliable source, svalispeaks, but the idea itself is mentioned in literature under terms such as "Structures" of the innerworld. I'm just going to leave a link to my post about it if you want to explore the sources themselves, as this one is complicated.
Side Systems / 'Left' and 'Right' Systems
Sidesystems are a community made term that describes a structure in programmed systems where a set of alters are completely separate from the others, functioning as a completely separate system. In the clinical sense, this is sometimes referred to as the "left" and "right" systems, with one side being full of programmed parts and the other being daily life parts. However, sidesystems don't necessarily have to be to the left or right of each other. I'm also going to link my post that goes into more detail about them, but it doesn't provide any more clinical sources, so just take it how you will.[10, pg 131]
Screen / Cover Memories
Screen Memories are created memories that programmers use to "cover up" the abuse. They use impossible or highly improbable events, for example, an alien abduction, to discredit the victim and hide real memories of abuse. This is also called Cover Memories/Programs, and it is the same within the community. [10, pg 197]
System Reset / Epochal Division
Epochal Division refers to the phenomenon of where major life changes cause systems to replicate some or all of their alters, with the previously existing alters either remaining active or becoming more covert/dormant. OEA survivors sometimes call this a system reset if it derives from programming, though this term is the same as an endogenic coined one and is often frowned upon when used in reference to OEA. This is first documented by Kluft in reference to polyfragmented systems. [11]
System-Hopping
In the OEA sense, system hopping refers to the action of a part traveling from a sidesystem to the main system and vice versa. I am unsure of the origin of this term in OEA spaces, but it seems to be a community-made term that shares the name with an endogenic term. As far as I'm aware, this did not originate as an OEA community term and has existed in endogenic spaces years prior between the years 2001-2003.
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Program Names
i won't go through all community terms for specific types of programming, only the most common ones I've seen specifically mentioned in literature or other official sources, as well as any very common within the community. these are not the only possible programs, but this section is already very long. if desired, i can make a separate post going more in detail about all of them. Sources here are triggering and often repeated.
Greek Letters
The greek letter system of programming originated from the community and is not used in clinical literature. Many of the terms originate from very untrustworthy sources (Fritz & Svali) but have expanded to be commonplace. I have also found evidence of Greek letter terms used in the community in 2003 and 2016.
Alpha / Base
The earliest mention of 'Alpha' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, it is described as "base" programming and similar terms clinically. The term refers to newly formed splits that have gone through basic programming (ex. loyalty to the group, following orders).
Backups / Doubles
Backup programs are the presence of programmed parts meant to replace other programmed parts should they fail or be 'disobedient'. Often, these parts will be the exact same as the one they're replacing and receive the same training. Both of these are used as clinical terms, though doubles less commonly. [10, pg 110, pg 144]
Beta / Sexual
The earliest mention of 'Beta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. Within the community, this refers to any sexual programming, which is very commonly talked about academically. I'll link one seperate example. [12]
Callback / Re-Contact / Return
Return programs are very much talked about in literature, and all three of the above terms have been used both inside and outside the community. These refer to any programs created to have the victim return to the group/programmers. [13][10][14, pg 115 ]
Delta / Violence
The absolute earliest mention of 'Delta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, violence programming is referenced in multiple official sources. In the community, Delta programming refers to any programming that revolves around violence towards others. [15]
Epsilon / Nonhuman / Paranormal
Epsilon is the community term for nonhuman programming, or parts that believe they are animals or other nonhuman creatures. This is used for a variety of reasons and doesn't have a specific term, mainly just listed as "parts who believe they are animals/nonhuman."[10, pg 51][14, pg 74 ]
Internal Handlers / Programmers / Enforcers / Organizers
While "Internal Handlers" seems to be more of a community term, Internal Programmers, Enforcers, and Organizers are used in a clinical sense. All of these things refer to varients of programmed parts that internally enforce, replay, and replace programs and programmed parts in some way. These are also often called "higher ups." [10, pg 160, pg 133] [14, pg 63]
Monarch
Project Monarch refers to an alleged subset of Project MKUltra. The idea is created by a conspiracy theorist. However, within the community, "Monarch programming" either refers to: 1. The government-led mind control that occurred during MKUltra/Project Artichoke itself, or 2. Any programming that is government-controlled, government-funded, or that came from a government connected group. It is also referred to as "Monarch-like" programming.
Omega / Suicide / Self-Injury / Lethal
Omega is the community term for all types of Lethal and Self-Injury programming. This is referred to in many different ways academically, but stick to the same general theme. [15]
Organization / Hierarchy
Both in community and clinical senses, there are various types of organizational programming mentioned. Most notably, soldiers, religious alters (angels, demons, etc), and cues such as numbers, shapes or letters, and colors. Usually, these organizations will correspond to a hierarchy. This is used as a way for programmers to more easily organize the system and keep parts in check. There is no 'one size fits all' when it comes to organizational programs, so those with the same type of organization may have completely different meanings to them. [10, pg 49, pg 131 ]
Reporter / Observer
Reporter programs refer to the same thing in community and clinical terms. They describe programmed parts whose duty it is to report back to the group and/or update them on the systems habits. This often ties into callback and routine programs.[13][10]
Routine / Internal Calender
Routine is the community term for programmed behaviors where the victim does things on certain times, days, etc. Often, this pertains to rituals. Routine programming is sometimes also referred to as an 'Internal Calender' in clinical literature and can be linked with callback programming. [14, pg 57] [15]
Scramble and Varients
In this section, I'm including any sort of programming that causes specific disorentation to make this shorter. Scrambling, Flooding, Rapid Switching, Spinning, Trance, Mist, 'Dead Head,' and other terms have been created and used to describe types of programming that cause the victim to become heavily disoriented, confused, foggy, or otherwise not able to think. There are a wide variety of clinical terms used for these types of programming, but the terms most commonly used in the community are scramble, flood, and spin programming. [14 , pg 88][15][16]
Shell
Shell alters are simplistic parts that function as a 'screen' that other alters speak through. This is used to make the victim not seem multiple and mask other symptoms caused by programming and multiplicity. There is a brief mention of "shell" parts in the context of OSDD, and some non-programmed systems may have experiences that are similar. However, a programmed shell is much different from other described experiences. [14, pg 56 ]
Silence / Speaking Programs
I've included all programs that mention voice in this section. Silence and group-specific speaking programs (programmed responses) are the two I've seen mentioned clinically and may tie into reporter programs. Terms such as hyperverbal are also used in community spaces. [15]
Theta / Religious
The absolute earliest mention of 'Theta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, it has been widely used within the community outside of that. Theta is a community term that refers to any kind of religious programming, which is well documented in the clinical sense, often just referred to as religious programming or specific examples of programmed parts.
Other / Misc Programming
Things like Body Illness Programs, misc Emotional Programs, Recycle and Amnesia programs, and Isolation programs have been listed in sources provided, among many others not listed here. These are the ones I see mentioned less frequently, and thus, I haven't given a full section. If desired, I'll create a specific post going over all of them.
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System Types
as a note, i do not think systems who have been through OEA are inherently more complex. as mentioned, i personally disagree with HC-DID and its creator. this is simply grouping terms i've seen together.
C-DID / Complex DID
Complex DID is a term referring to polyfragmented DID. The term is mentioned by Bennett G. Braun and R. P. Kluft. It is not specific to OEA victims, and many use it as an alternative to polyfragmented.
EC-DID / Extremely Complex DID
EC-DID is a term initially coined by R. P. Kluft in reference to polyfragmented systems, very similar to C-DID. It is not an OEA specific term. However, ritual abuse is mentioned as a cause of said complex system structures. [11]
HC-DID / Highly Complex DID
HC-DID is a community-made term coined by someone later outed as a racist and being inappropriate with minors. For the term itself, the words "highly complex" have been used to describe some system structures and cases in literature. However, it is not a separate clinical term itself and was never said exclusively about OEA survivors. The idea that all programmed system structures are highly complex is also incorrect, as there are small systems that have been programmed. Some members of the community still use this term, while others discredit it. Please keep these things in mind when considering using this term.
RA-DID, OA-DID / Ritual Abuse DID, Organized Abuse DID
These are community terms I've seen used as an alternative to HC-DID as an attempt to create a term specific to OEA survivors. These terms are rarely used and are completely community based.
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Thank you for reading. If you have any questions or additions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and I am just doing my best. This post, in particular, is likely to be updated, and I will reblog with changes.
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requiemsystem · 1 year ago
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COMMUNICATING WITH ALTERS
building communication as a system can be difficult, and there are many different ways to communicate with alters, so i want to talk about some of the different ways and give some advice and examples in this post INTERNAL COMMUNICATION internal communication can come in many different forms, such as passive influence, speaking to other alters in your head, sharing images between each other, etc. passive influence is a common form of internal communication that often happens unintentionally, some ways to recognize when this is occurring is identifying a feeling that feels "other", something that feels like its not coming from you. this can be another thought, another emotion, another desire, etc. and try to identify who it could be coming from. this can help to improve communication, you can also ask if anyone is influencing you or around front at the time and see if you get a response speaking to other alters internally is another form of internal communication that often takes a bit more effort, the best way i can describe it is like passing thoughts back and forth. the other thoughts do not come from you, and its like having a conversation with someone else in your mind. this can be difficult to do without a lot of work, but a good way to start doing this could be asking if anyone has any input on your daily activities and just see if anyone has anything to say! you may get an answer, or you may not, and either way is okay! it takes time to build any form of communication EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION external communication is often easier than internal communication, and is often done in the form of leaving notes for other alters when they front. these notes can be left in a private discord server, in a phone notes app, in a journal, or anywhere likely to be checked by other alters the best advice i have for building external communication is to leave a note in a place that you know other alters would check, and just wait for a reply when you switch. once you have established some form of communication, then you can move the notes to wherever you want to permanently keep them, whether this be a notes app, private server, or wherever else. communicate this to other alters, so they know where to check OTHER ADVICE some alters may not be ready to communicate yet, this is okay. it comes with time. do not force an alter who isnt ready to communicate to communicate with you, as you may not be ready to know what they hold or meet them yet for a number of reasons if you are first meeting the alter(s) you are trying to communicate with, it may help to write some form of introduction where you introduce yourself and ask about them. keep in mind they may not be willing to share information about themselves yet and this is okay once you establish communication, it will take some level of maintaining. it is a consistent effort and not just a one-time thing - grey
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planesofdelusion · 1 year ago
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programming things that suck:
programmed migraines
programmed seizures
programmed arousal
flood programs
spin programs
God, everything about being programmed is awful
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