this is legit just a mini rant about the results of the gayestshakespearecouples tournament thus far. it's me thinking out loud so feel free to scroll past bc i know i'm gonna sound insane
i firmly believe that people who voted rosencrantz & guildenstern in the gay shakespeare tournament have either never read hamlet, have not read it in decades, have very bad media literacy, or are basing their memories of ros and guil's relationship entirely on when they read "rosencrantz & guildenstern are dead". girl you cannot tell me that ros and guil are somehow more queer than hamlet and horatio in the original play. ros and guil have very little screen time in the actual text of the play itself they have like zero basis for queerness at all. now don't get me wrong if we're looking at the play "rosencrantz & guildenstern are dead" there's definitely something there, or at least you could pretend that there's something there considering that ros and guil actually get to, y'know, interact with each other on-page in that play. but no matter how many "rosencrantz & guildenstern are gay" jokes you make while reading the original text of hamlet you cannot deny the fact that those two men are only on page together like 3 times during which they barely talk to each other and also iirc the queerest they get is when one of them (either ros or guil i honestly cannot remember) remarks on hamlet's queerness which would only support horatio / hamlet gayness not ros and guil gayness. feeling insane about this i just cannot believe people thought that ros and guil were more textually queer in the original hamlet than hamlet and horatio were. horatio was not out here "goodnight, sweet prince"ing as hamlet died in his arms for y'all to say ros and guil were inherently more queer.
ALSO i know that in the tournament it was technically hamlet/horatio vs olivia/viola in the bracket and that makes sense like i'd say they're equally matched when it comes to being the gayest homosexuals in shakespeare so that's chill. but it's the fact that ROS AND GUIL were agaisnt BRUTUS AND CAESAR and somehow BRUTUS/CAESAR LOST??? girls. did we do the reading or did we just click the character names we recognized.
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yes i know heartstopper is "cringe" and yes I know you think it's not that deep but you've endured years of cringe oversexualized shows about high schoolers where the gays are delegated to sub plots I'm sure a few hours of queer people being safe and happy and loved won't kill you so please shut the fuck up
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also, i really find it interesting how people can genuinely go about saying "Well this group isn't attacked for their identity so they can't be queer " while then turning around and. attacking said group. for their identity. and exemplifying classic __-phobic tropes. It's really dumb. You are being the thing that you claim does not exist
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the girls are fi- oh.. oh i'm sorry, carry on gentlemen
or alternatively what if we were two butches and we wrestled 😳
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[On the industry] "I think I feel so relieved, because I was thinking yesterday… I guess House of the Dragon was the first time I had been sort of out as a non-binary person at work. Until then I had sort of split my personal life and my working life. And I was just thinking how annoying it would be, to be down the line this far [in their career], and if I hadn't done that, actually just how tiring I think it would be. I suppose I didn't necessarily know what the ramifications- what all of the consequences of that choice would be at the time. I feel broadly really grateful, it just seems to be fine (laughs), it's just fine."
"I feel hopeful; you see and hear about more and more gender non-conforming, trans, and non-binary people in the industry. You know, I guess I didn't know back in the day, that there was space for that. I don't even mean anything by that, I just maybe assumed on some level that they'd always remain separate parts. But yeah, it feels like such a relief. And it's good, I feel like the industry is changing, slowly. So that feels very hopeful to me."
Emma D'Arcy on the entertainment industry & their feelings on being seen as a queer role model (video)
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Other queercoded media shippers: They're gay!!
Author: No. (They're cishet and platonic and bros and I queerbaited for profit. They're gonna get wives now)
Ineffable fandom: They're gay!!
Our Lord and Savior Neil Gaiman: No. (They're so gay that the gay cancels itself out. They're lgbtqia in more ways than you puny mortals can ever imagine. Get trans'd)
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chatters let's scare off the exclusionists together ♡
if you use good faith labels, whether you're usually open about them or not, share what they are! i'll start:
i'm a bi gay sapphillean!
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bro we are NOT calling wwdits bad queer representation this many seasons in just because they're being kinda annoying about a popular ship that may or may not happen, when we literally have a full main cast of explicitly queer characters who constantly remind us that they're queer in a show that isn't even ABOUT romance. its a hilarious mockumentary about a found family of vampires who also fuck each other sometimes. like that's AWESOME! adding a gay couple would be great but the queerness of the characters and the show doesn't solely depend on their relationships!! Yes Even If They're Bisexual And M/F
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ultimately when it comes to shipping and fandom space treatment of aspec characters i just don't accept "aro/ace people can still date/have sex" as an answer from nonaspecs. like yeah. mhm. okay. now i think we both know that you're not saying that out of real interest in the diversity of aspec experiences. so you can turn in your seventeen-page essay on why and how you plan to examine this character's aspec identity within the context of a romantic or sexual relationship complete with evidence from canon and peer reviews from multiple aspec people within the next week or i'm putting you in the pit from the edgar allen poe story
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