#Mixed origin

[theharbingerofxhaos]

We figured this could be a fun post so will attempt to answer as best we can even if we're still sick :(

-Erasmus

How many alters (headmates generally for us) do we have, and do we consider it a lot?

27 😅 Many of us are what we refer to as weaker fronters, so they tend to come out much much less, but others are much more consistent fronters, so although we wouldn't nessacarily say we have *a lot* of headmates, we definitely have a lot for the amount of days in a year there are!

Do we have any sub systems, and if so, how do they work?

We have, 4 maybe? And they all have a colour assigned to them: red, blue, green, and rainbow. Red Sub-System are "Crowleys", just headmates who formed off of Crowley, or another Crowley, they tend to basically be part of the main system but they tend to all share memory to a degree, and when front is fuzzy they can reach each other easier than reaching other headmates. Blue is "Cheshires", they are basically the same as Crowleys, but slightly different in appearance. There's only 3 cheshires, and generally, their fronts are all tied around each other, so if 1 is around, the other 2 are probably around, too. Green subsystem is just dubbed "the women", not much is known about them, except that they are either raging lesbians or raging pansexuals and no in between, they also tend to be fictives, or align heavily with a material that fits their personality. Honestly we only found out 4 of our headmates were/are from green sub-system this past December, and we've been dealing with a lot of other personal stuff so it's been hard to figure out where they are from, why they form, or how they work. The last is Rainbow. Rainbow is a completely separate sub-system. In our head, they sort of feel like an orb, black hole, void, etc. of many many, possibly endless fragments, generally ones that are harmful to themselves, our system, or just ones that never formed into headmates. They don't tend to front, and when they do, they can be anything from a little to a severe angry persecutor. One headmate has formed off of Rainbow, Iridiana, who also now gatekeeps when Rainbow can or cannot front to protect the system better.

Do we have a core?

Short answer, no, and we don't tend to like the phrase either. However we won't talk too much on this now as it's something Moira wants to write on later :)

Do we have an innerworld (headspace for us) and how complex is it?

Yes and no. We have had very intricate headspaces before, but for over 10 years now we have struggled with forming/seeing/having a headspace. Ashe is at times capable of forming a semi headspace, which is basically just a black void where anyone near front has a nice chair. For the past few months we've been having, dissociative dreams almost? In which there is a large round wooden table, with chairs around it that we all sit at or in the case of Artemis who we met via the table, on. Headspaces tend to be a point of discomfort for us though as not having one is, not very nice.

How does fronting work for our system, and do we have a fronting room?

We have an area near what we refer to as front (what would be the closest to the outerworld from out headspace), sometimes we've imagined it as a room, where headmates all sit, and can communicate with who is fronting easier, but it's very hard for us to tell what it really is for our system. Fronting works in a lot of ways for us, it would be hard to explain in one post, but a simple answer would be we all come and go from front, generally there is a brief dissociative period between switches, and gatekeepers try to control the flow of front better to stop slipping and other things.

How do we communicate with our headmates?

Often? We tell @guardianssystem something and hope he remembers it. Communication goes up and down with how easy it is for us, so sometimes it's as easy as directly talking to each other, almost like hearing someone else in our thoughts, sometimes we need to use external things to communicate.

Do we use headmate roles? And which do we use?

Yes! This seems to be a point of controversy for a lot of people, but we find roles help us focus, and give us some sense of being, we are here and this is why we're here, and this is why we're going to stay here. We use the general terms like protector, caretaker, persecutor, gatekeeper, and we also use some other community terms like soother, and internal self helper, but we also use some of our own terms. Moira we refer to as a "technical caretaker", someone who caretakers the technical things for the system like finances, and medical things. We refer to Moroi as a "physical caretaker", someone who looks after the body and acts almost as a protector, and Haytham, an "emotional caretaker", who acts similar to a protector or trauma holder, and protects the system emotionally, helps them emotionally or helps our partner system emotionally. Some caretakers can do multiple, but Moira is rather callous at times, and so doesn't like to act in place of an emotional caretaker because she feels it doesn't fit her role correctly, and it's sort of the same for all of our other roles too.

Who fronts the most, and who fronts the least?

This changes a lot, it tends to be protectors or caretakers who front the most, and littles and trauma holders that front the least, but that is not always certain, we have had trauma holder hosts at times etc.

How often do our fronting/host patterns change?

It's really random honestly, often influenced by external events, or our own mental health. Right now we have a planned out front schedule all the way to mid october, because the past year and a half has been full of front stucks, and big trauma stuff, and so we're attempting to catch up on headmate birthdays, and time out for those who haven't had much. Though the schedule is, flexible because sometimes people just, come out haha.

How often do we switch?

This is another harder question to answer, sometimes we can switch like 10-20 times in 1 day between any number of headmates, sometimes we can go months without switching. Right now it's about 1-2 times a day, if we need a caretaker or protector etc. or if someone wants to see Guardians :) Seeing Guardians tends to be a very, very common reason to switch we get lonely :(

Do we co-front with alters often, and is it easy or difficult?

It really depends. And depends on what you want to consider co-fronting, sometimes there will be multiple people at front, but not nessacarily "co-fronting". Ashe and Moira tend to co-front *A LOT* though, because they're dating. Sometimes if we need, multiple protectors will co-front, and that does tend to be extremely exhausting, even Ashe and Moira don't tend to fully co-front, just hang around very close and switch between each other. It works easiest on headmates who have a very close relationship, and even then it's not a very consistently achievable thing unfortunately.

How long does it take us to switch?

This is also very situational, if someone is weaker at pulling people out, if someone is very hard to reach, if there are more dissociative barriers than usual, can all affect how fast we switch. It can be anywhere from a second to a few hours. Though Guardians says the average is around 20 seconds or so :)

Do we have specific voice claims for how headmates sound inside?

Not really, our fictives sound like our fictives, and we all have a personal pinterest folder with things that look like us, or feel like us, hair styles etc. Sometimes there are things that sound similar to us, like recently Moroi sounds kind of like Dracula or Alucard from Castlevania, but it's not *exactly* how he sounds, it's hard to find exact things for how we feel a lot of the time, but it does sound interesting :D

Do we have any introjects, and if so what are their sources?

Plenty! We have Moira and Ashe from Overwatch, Edward and Haytham from Assassins Creed, Erebos who is alongside other things a multi-loki fictive (various sources), Jinx from Arcane/LoL, Lotor from Voltron, Zaheer (they go by Lotus though) from Korra, Stoat from Inscryption, V from V for Vendetta, Winter/Wolf (Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier) from Marvel/MCU, and a couple of people loosely formed based off of Guardians :) And Scarlet is technically like a triple source fictive but that is a whole different story.

Do we have any hosts/co-hosts?

Yes we have (after checking, we have not actually updated this on our simplyplural but we think we remember correctly) 3 co-hosts, we're pretty sure it's Moira, Scarlet, and Winter at the moment :)

If we have a headspace, can we see it while fronting?

Sort of? It depends on how formed it is at the time, and it does technically mean we can accidentally leave front trying to feel around inside, but we tend to be able to see inside without leaving front :)

Do we use any origin terms?

A few, not really often but as a whole we call ourselves a mixed origin system, made up of various traumagenic and endogenic headmates :)

Do we have any NPCs in our headspace?

We genuinely have no idea how to answer this one moment while we consult Guardians, and ask if our chairs count - Okay we are still uncertain on what does or doesn't count but we don't believe we do

Has our system created any rules our headmates are expected to bide by?

Yes, on multiple occassions, although it does change situationally. Just basically a general this is okay to do, this is not okay to do that anyone normally would have.

This was really fun to do! And if there's any other questions people have we will either make its own post about it or respond in a comment etc. we love answering questions so feel free to ask anything ❤

-Xhaos

PLURAL ASK GAME!! ⋆˙⟡

⊹ ࣪ ˖͙͘͡★ get 2 know ur sys!!

!! this post is for everybody! u may use this regardless of origin/beliefs, just remember to follow ur own dni

🌸 - how many alters do u have? do u consider yourself to have a high headcount?

🧩 - do u have any subsystems? if so, how do they work?

🍧 - are there any alter(s) who u would consider the “core”? if so, are they the host?

💞 - do u have an innerworld? how complex is it?

💧 - how does fronting work for your system? do u have a “front room”?

🍀 - how do u communicate with ur headmates?

🍡 - do u use alter roles/labels? which ones do u use?

🌺 - who fronts the most? who fronts the least?

❄️ - how often do ur hosts/fronting patterns change?

🥝 - how often do u switch?

🪷 - do you co-front with other alters often? is co-fronting easy or difficult?

🌷 - how long does it take for u to switch?

🌨️ - do ur alters have specific voice claims for what they sound like in headspace?

🌱 - do u have any introjects? what are their sources?

💐 - do u have any hosts? co-hosts?

🍃 - if u have an innerworld, can u see into while you’re fronting?

💗 - do u use any origin/-genic terms? what are they?

🌿 - do u have any npcs in your headspace?

🍬 - has ur system created any rules ur alters are expected to abide by?

[theredstargalaxy]

A good chunk of plural Discord servers have/are run by minors, and as an adult, it's difficult for me to feel like the guys and I belong there. So, I figured I'd make my own. However, there's a problem:

I don't know how to go about it. I mean, I know how to moderate, how to add categories and channels, and how to kick/ban people. But I don't know how I should theme it-- or if I should theme it at all. And I also don't know how to install most bots. So, I would need someone to help me out with that.

I've honestly been stewing on this idea for a while now. So, I may just bite the bullet and make it.

[notsimplyplural]

HELLO INTERNET. 🫵🏻

I (<- System) have a SimplyPlural account with 384 members logged and quite... some.... not logged in. The thing is... I need the whole thing organized, but motivation is my worst enemy.

And so I saw this trend going around a while back where people went "5 likes and I do this, 10 likes and I do this, 100 likes and I do this" and I wanna do this too, but with a twist.

For every interaction I get on this post, I finish one of our simply plural profiles. And for every 10 profiles I get done, you 🫵🏻 get to see the profiles... or... I don't know maybe I'll draw someones request or something (I can draw, trust me /hj). I feel like drawings will be more fun, but this is so up to whatever you folks want.

Why do this? Because pressure from others is the only way I can get things done! So help a buddy out! Maybe I'll draw your silly ideas as a thank you if you leave a note in my inbox! 🫵🏻

[d33pwaterabyss]

when you're plural, every game is multiplayer!

[system32sys-hub]

Shoutout to Black systems!

Shoutout to Brown systems!

Shoutout to Asian systems!

Shoutout to Indigenous systems!

Shoutout to mixed race systems!

Shoutout to fat (not just chubby or palatable fat) systems!

Shoutout to physically "unhealthy" (unhealth is a redundant concept; learn more about healthism) systems!

Shoutout to physically disabled systems!

Shoutout to intellectually disabled systems!

Shoutout to systems with personality disorders!

I love you. You are part of the backbone of this community, and I am so grateful that you would be a part of it. You're not seen enough in this community, and I will always fight and advocate for one where you are.

Love yourself today, in whatever way that looks and feels like for you personally. And ideally, love yourself tomorrow and beyond too.

Radqueers, TransID, and proship DNI

[4sqadia-8anthen]

been doomscrolling the “anti endo” tag

and omfg

the amount of misinformation, the amount of hate, the amount of anger, the amount of exclusion

anti endos sending endos/supporters death threats and telling them to off themselves

it hurts to see all of this :(

we are just trying to live our lives, but there are so many people/beings thats whole existence on this app seems to just be about hating endos

like, we just chillin here dude, yall callin us ableist and saying we invading ur spaces when we are just tryna show ya that there is plurality without disorder that we are caused by something other than trauma, whether disordered or not

im just fucking sick that we have to block so many damn people because we are on everyones dni im fucking sick of being hated by everyone

[frame-os]

A few origin based blinkies we made! free to use ! , no credit needed ! more coming very very soon !

( ANTI ENDOS / RADQUEERS DNI )

[werewolf-pack-system]

I don't see this talked about very often, so shout out to the non-disordered systems who have disordered traits!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have dissociation!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who experience dissociation between switches!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who struggle to ground themselves!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who experience dissociation which is totally unrelated to their plurality!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have amnesia!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have strong barriers between members, making it hard or impossible to share memories!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who are amnesiac due to a traumatic brain injury, rather than their plurality!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who forget things easily and have to write notes to remember!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have to write notes to be able to communicate with other members!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have both dissociation and amnesia!

And shout out to all the other non-disordered systems who have disordered traits and combinations of traits which I haven't mentioned here!

Too often, we see the assumption that dissociation and/or amnesia + system = disordered, and as a non-disordered system who experiences dissociation ourselves, it's somewhat frustrating to feel left out of the discussions. To be disordered, there needs to be the key element of clinically-significant distress.

So, to everyone from the most dissociated, amnesiac system out there who doesn't feel distress from their symptoms, to the system who has only occasional bouts of dissociation from sensory issues, to the system who has difficulty remembering things due to brain injury, this post goes out to you!

[sysmedsaresexist]

Template

[joypunk-plural]

Shout out to mixed origin systems!

(Pt: Shout out to mixed origin systems!)

Shout out to traumagenic systems with endogenic members!

Shout out to endogenic systems with traumagenic members!

Shout out to systems who have both intentionally created members and unintentionally formed ones!

Shout out to systems who have both spiritual and psychological members!

Shout out to systems that struggle to pinpoint their origins because they are mixed origin!

Shout out to systems where their origins blend together.

Shout out to systems who don't know what community they belong to because they're mixed origin. You'll always be welcome on our blog :)

Your systems experiences are unique and beautiful <3

[moonpool-system]

Saw an anon somewhere else make a great point and we wanted to elaborate on it:

There should NOT be the hard lines between concepts of traumagenesis and endogenesis that currently exist in the plural community. There's a ton of overlap between the two in reality, and it's a little disconcerting that while "endogenic" is very explicitly an umbrella term, "traumagenic" is constantly considered a singular origin with no leeway, and anything not labeled specifically with that word (EVEN when the definition explains trauma is involved) is thrown under "endo" by medicalists & anti-endos.

Have people not come around to the understanding that "traumagenic" is also an umbrella term? That there are many, many ways for a system to be traumagenic, and sometimes those ways entangle inseparably from other origins? Has no thought gone to the autigenic-identifying system whose plurality came from masking trauma? To the soulbonder that connected with their companion out of desperate isolation and pain? If it were not for the manufactured divide claiming "traumagenic" as singular and separate, there would be a wide range of terminology and conceptions to describe the various ways one can be traumagenic, and it'd be a dramatic boon to the traumagenic plural & CDD communities.

Instead, we're severely lacking in a significant point of plural understanding because of the lateral aggression around here, and it's extremely damaging to our progress as a marginalized group attempting to make our voices heard and understood. How can we articulate the way traumagenesis and endogenesis intertwine and contrast if we're too afraid to even look?

The origin binary in the plural community needs to end. If "endogenic" can have many specific origins fall under it then so can "traumagenic".

[plural-the-way-you-dont-like]

Mixed origin/multigenic mediple flag

Requested by anon.

[theredstargalaxy]

Opinions on harmless TransIDs? (ex: transheartpupils, transcatears, etc)? (We personally don't use these nor do anyone we know, just curious on your guy's take)

As long as said transIDs don't involve harming yourself or others, then it's completely acceptable in our eyes.

~Kai

[notsimplyplural]

HELLO INTERNET 🫵🏻

And welcome to "I'm actually keeping my promise of working on SimplyPlural", the internet show where I (the amazing host) decide to update you with my newest simplyplural nonsense!

On my pinned (if you haven't seen it, you should absolutely check it out <- shameless promo), I also said I might aswell share some of our new simplyplural profiles... here:

These are 3 out of the 30 profiles I have done (and the 400+ profiles I need to do) but ... everyone starts somewhere!

They're very simple, but honestly? With as many members as we have, that's probably the easiest way to keep up with all of this. Most information (such as age, likes, triggers, etc) are now instead stored in the super amazing custom fields section;

I will keep you all 🫵🏻 updated. (Also: thank you so much for all the motivation and kind words, that were left in the comments 🫵🏻 you are awesome! 600 notes in just 5 days is 599 more notes than I expected when uploading the original post)

I want to share our folders and everything eventually; and hope to finish all our profiles over this next week now!

ALSO for those of you who send in art request, don't worry >:) I'm working on them

[d33pwaterabyss]

Me: *makes an oc*

The Brain: is for me?? new member for me?? 🥺🥺🥺