#gay people to trans people for decades

[anti-potato]

when you killed your kids were you by any chance taking inspiration from medea from greek mythology

is that another potato blog?

[dkettchen]

Did I expect the black mirror s6e3 robot astronaut episode to turn into a transphobic hate crime metaphor this quickly rather than just a working from home metaphor? Nope.

Did my frantic googling (while trying to avoid actual spoilers) to see whether the “tragedy” the plot summary was on about was gonna be some world ending cataclysm that would upset me prepare me for this? Oh it sure fucking didn’t, so this is a PSA for y’all now

[not-poignant]

Your post about queer history really resonated with me. As someone who identifies as queer but also aspec and cis, it's sometimes hard to feel like I have the right to use that identifier. I've seen a lot of "queer spaces aren't for cis people" rhetoric or aspec/bi/pan erasure around me and it's really nice to see a post that calls that out. Thank you for sharing!

'Queer spaces aren't for cis people' is honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, because most gay and lesbian folk fit into that category (most gay folk are cis, most lesbian folk are cis).

So to use the word 'queer' to rule out like generally the bulk of the statistical proportion of like actual queer people is like meeting a species of fish that has decided to talk and purposely misuse words, like, it literally makes no sense.

Whoever is sharing those messages literally understands nothing about queer culture, what it means, or dare I say it, even what the word cis means. There are plenty of cis people under the queer umbrella, it's not a word only trans people own, for example.

There's definitely still a lot of ace/bi/pan erasure, and there sadly always has been (along with nonbinary erasure and so on), though in some ways, and in some circles, it's getting better. But it only gets better through vigilance, education and compassion, and a big part of all of that is making sure everyone understands queer history in the first place, because our queer ancestors - the ones who laid a path so we could write like this without being afraid for our lives (for the most part) - didn't fight so hard for us to just ignore everything they did for us.

But my god, 'queer spaces aren't for cis people' made me laugh, that would automatically eliminate almost a huge chunk of the LGB part of the LGBT~ acronym, and I can't with how mind-numbingly off base that is. Like, toss those fish back in the ocean, anon, or turn them into fish fingers. The only version I've heard is tbh the radfem version that trans people don't belong - and I've certainly seen groups eliminate the T in 'LGB' - you can sadly find those sorts of radfem groups on Facebook. But again, a total waste of time.

I am always here to call that stuff out, and you're welcome to go back through my queer culture tag for similar posts!

[artificial-ascension]

I saw someone talking about the hatred towards bi lesbians and in the tags they mentioned that bi gay men aren't given near the amount of hatred and I think that boils down to two thing:

1. Women aren't allowed to do anything, as an ex teen age girl I can confirm that no matter what you do as a women you will be judged (ex. Girls who like traditionally girly things are all judged as boring and basic and girls who don't are seen as "not like other girls" and "vying for male attention.)

And 2

Femininity it upheld as the golden standard of purity in alot of circles and therefore being a lesbian also attracted to men is seen as somehow 'tainting' the purity of being a lesbian by likeing icky icky men while on the other hand being a bi gay man would be viewed as the opposite, making up for liking men by being also attracted to good pure women.

And obviously not the case always and not all circles hold up the flawed belief that anything associated with men or masculinity is evil, but I think it's good food for thought and it all boils down to a mix of misogyny and man hating.

[fussypaws]

idk what the deal is with people suddenly wanting to include men in lesbianism but dni if you are or support mspec/bi/pan lesbians

[tunglrsillyman]

Shouldn't be this emotional over an album that entirely reprise remixes but god if it doesn't hit right it hurts

[waitineedaname]

I think everyone should listen to the making gay history podcast

[fencesandfrogs]

One of the best moves of my life has to be reenacting an AIDS protest on 80s day in my senior year of high school.

[mythicalcoolkid]

If I had a nickel for every time I had to watch "I can't believe they're doing this!! This is heinous, who could have seen this coming?! <thing a minority group repeatedly and explicitly said would happen if x other thing went unchallenged>" I could afford to live somewhere with fewer human rights violations

[ichayalovesyou]

Kurtzman Trek is The First Time I Have Hope They’ll Confirm Queer Spock. (GASP!)

It continues to boggle my mind that people are accusing Spock of being written like a ‘typical horny straight guy’ in SNW

When literally all he’s tried to do

Is have a decent relationship

With his fiancé

And pretty much only his fiancé!

And yet, and yet, people are acting like Spock is some kind of, woman of the week tomcat everytime he talks to a woman, Uhura, Chapel, or T’Pring. He says something nice to a female character and it’s like “HETERO ALERT OMFG IM GONNA THROW UP” Ugggggh.

Which honestly actually pisses me off. And not just because of the entitlement and biphobia baked into it. Although that part does make my blood boil.

Like, what happened to Geordi and Data, Bashir and Garak, Malcom Reed, all that Rick Berman fueled sexist queer rep smothering bullshit, is NOT what’s happening, at all.

This isn’t trying to hook up Garak with 18 year old Ziyal, or trashing the Dax/Bashir friendship arc in favor of having him hook up with Ezri, or Reed being really gross about T’Pol, or deciding Chakotay & 7 of 9 would be hot because Jeri Ryan, established romantic subplot and wlw Janeway energy be damned.

Spock is trying to make things work with his fiancé that is literally it.

Honestly, I’m not exaggerating when I say if we are gonna get any kind of non-subtextual non-book confirmation on queer Spock it’s gonna be NOW.

Kurtzman Trek is responsible for pretty much all the not one-shot outright queer rep that we have in the franchise! Stamets and Culber! Adira and Gray! Beckett and Jill! Heck, this era has proved it isn’t afraid of making preestablished characters canonically queer thanks to Raffi and Seven in Picard! Lower Decks is where we got the Spirk engraving at the space station bar!!

Check your perspective. Damn.

[ironmanstan]

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[very-uncorrect]

Some people got so agro about people headcanoning Encanto characters as non cishet that some people tried to say that "LGBTQ didn't start until the 1960s" and "this is a kids movie, don't make it gay!" (actual things that people have said) like bruh let people relate to characters stop being babies about it lmao

[stickers-on-a-laptop]

people reblogging my toku/bl posters and it's like honestly that's just the SURFACE and also that's just the bls like if you did queer stuff in general it gets even LARGER and ALSO ALSO several tokus did their queer stuff before their toku shows like it's not even a pipeline at this point i dunno what it is but yeah people who say it's not a thing (dudebros looking at you) are just so wrong lmao

[beefcake007]

I’m still mad about something that happened on tiktok last week and I want to do a post about it and explain an aspect of transphobia I’ve observed.

A cis user made a video asking that trans people share more banger music that they make, but clarified saying “by trans people, I mean trans women” because trans men only make that “sad ukulele” music. There was much discourse, he doubled down and said trans men couldn’t take a joke, other trans people threw the offended transmascs under the bus, or insisted that they can also make club music, yada yada.

I want to know if the queers who haven’t been queer as long as I have know that this exact drama was had with gays and lesbians. Do you know that some transphobia is repackaged homophobia and lesbophobia? I feel like that’s something we should be allowed to say and examine without someone shutting you down and insisting you’re conflating the gays and transes.

But yeah, for decades the joke has been that gay men are the fun flamboyant ones that make good art and dance music, and that lesbians are angry and dress ugly and make sad folk music. It’s pretty much an identical bias and resulting disrespectful jokes.

And it’s shit! I’m not going to let anyone, let alone a cis person, get away with transphobia just because it’s directed at trans men. It’s rude and harmful to devalue our art, and our art doesn’t need to be easily consumable to you. We’re allowed to be pissed and offended when you write us off, minimize the harm you’ve done, and exclude us from the conversation. It’s obvious when you only tolerate the queers who can serve you, and that you don’t actually care to listen or learn about our lives, struggles, and art.

[cupcakesandhags]

the way ppl online regularly get more heated over the use of the word theyfab because it 'invalidates' their identity or w/e than the fact that almost half of the u.s. is actively trying to make it a crime to be visibly transgender in public via drag bans and eliminating access to all gender affirming care. like femme presenting afab identifying nonbinary ppl are definitely the people that need to be centered THE LEAST in the conversation about transphobia. as a nb identifying lesbian i am shook this is even a sustained discourse. in what world am I subject to an ounce of the oppression of transphobia and transmisogyny transgender people are facing right now.

[genderqueerdykes]

butch is a term that has such a long and intense history, i can't really fault people for not knowing a lot about it. it's fine if you don't have the time to read into how it's been used by various parts of the queer community, even the butch lesbian community alone given how much there is to look into, how much nuance there is to it, and what kinds of people use it.

for those who don't have that time or can't find a good place to start , just know that when folks (terfs) push to say "only lesbians can be butch," they then turn around and tell their lesbian communities "transmasculine people, FTMs, trans men, bi/multigender, genderqueer and nonbinary lesbians aren't lesbians." it is part of a long daisy chain of terfs trying to cause infighting and ultimately just remove trans people from the gay & lesbian communities.

it will never be factually incorrect to say that butch is a term that's important to the lesbian community. it's been a big part of the lesbian community for decades. but the people who are telling you it's important to lesbians and that's why it needs to be lesbian exclusive are always leaving out one massive detail, that the butch lesbian community has always been densely populated by genderqueer, nonbinary, multigender, FTM, transmasculine, transsexual & other trans lesbians. if you attempt to speak on the importance of the term, but forcefully exclude half the people who have historically used it, you aren't telling the truth.