Petition for there to be a complete redraw of the last laugh because I physically can’t watch another Nightwing edit full of cool shots then get an eyeful of those bright ass colors during such an intense scene
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Remember when Dick was beating Joker to death, and before Bruce and the others arrived on the scene, Helena was like, "I think Nightwing can handle the Joker, Batman."
And Bruce was like, "You misunderstand, Huntress. It's the Joker I'm worried about."
It's the same exact vibe as Damian beating the shit out of Joker, and while Dick and Jim were heading to the scene, Jim was like, "My God. Does that poor kid have any idea what he's dealing with?"
And Dick was like, "It's not him. It's the Joker I'm worried about."
Oh ho ho ho the irony.
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one thing that always bugs me is when people get mad at bruce for bringing joker back to life in last laugh after dick kills him.
bruce didn't bring him back because of the no-kill rule. sure, that might've played a part in it but it was not the reason. he knows that the world would be better off without the joker, but he also knew that dick wouldn't be able to deal with the blood on his hands. he knew that it would kill him.
he doesn't want joker alive. but if he can't kill the man that killed his son, then he has to keep that man alive so that he doesn't lose another one.
he did not save the joker's life. he saved dick's.
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I'm gonna have to reread Dick killing the Joker. But like I'm 85% sure he was not okay with having killed the joker out of anger. Even after Batman brought the guy back. Dick was not okay with what he (Dick) had done. Maybe with time he would have been okay. But he holds to the same code Bruce does and a has that whole guilt-complex thing.
Of head canons are great and if I can ignore how Grant Morrison portrayed Talia or Lobdell (whatever his name is) wrote Kory & Roy. ... then certainly how the dude wrote that issue can be ignored. But I feel like I read something completely different rather then it just being head canons and fanon.
Of course memes about Jason being mad Joker's alive and Tim knowing Dick killed him remain amusing to me and fanfiction about it is very fun to read.
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holy shit y'all the jason and dick camping photo is real
look how fucking ugly this jason is wtf
honestly not the worst dick though! better than his other portrayals in thiss issue
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Was just reading some fic and realised with a start that I hadn’t consciously noticed how divergent the “I’ve just heard about this moment” version of Dick beating up Joker in the Last Laugh is to the comics.
I mean, I knew that the “Croc tries to drown Tim, Joker is blamed for killing Tim due to arranging the situation at Arkham” bit doesn’t get communicated properly and gets boiled down to “Dick thought Joker killed Tim”. But HOW and WHY Dick stops is also missed.
Fandom telephone says “Bruce revived Joker” and I really don’t think it was anywhere near that simple (and also the simple version is more likely “Tim revived Joker”).
Like, we don’t GET details of the resuscitation, but there were five heroes present. Bruce, Helena and Steph arrived together. You’ve got Dick having a guilt breakdown and Tim who had to HANG OFF DICK’S ARM to get him to stop.
Panel staging suggests that the most likely situation was that it was Tim and Bruce who revived Joker (and probably Tim initially), but the idea that Helena and Dick were also taking turns is so goddamn tasty.
Because Helena, who was thinking she’d seen the remains of Tim being EATEN BY KILLER CROC, walking in to see Tim desperately trying to revive the Joker? That Helena, seeing the hero she considers a little brother, performing CPR? Helena, who’s standing closer to Joker than any of the others when he wakes up? Who says “we should have let him die”? She 100% could have felt that it was a wasted effort and still stepped up to help her little brother Tim, because he’s just a teen like the students she misses. She could have helped while still disagreeing with the outcome. She’s played by the rules while disagreeing with them plenty of times.
And did Dick? Does he just have his breakdown while Tim’s trying to revive the Joker, or does he step in to help out of guilt and because a team effort is more effective? Does Bruce order him to help as a way to try and get Dick out of his head? How does it feel to have the hands that punched Joker in the chest to the point that his heart stopped be the same hands that performed compressions to try and restart it?
(I largely suspect Steph did NOT participate and may have been sent to scout the rest of the Cathedral, due to her mask being in place, probably being the least CPR-qualified of the group AND she hadn’t had a chance to go “Tim you’re alive!” yet. Helena would have current first aid via teaching, and Bruce would be religious about it for himself, Tim and Dick. And Bruce IS training Steph at this exact point in canon, so would be across what he’s taught her and what he hasn’t)
Anyway, I’m having a lot of feels about Joker: Last Laugh today, because the character dynamics are so tasty.
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