#Persecutor

[system-cypress]

IMPORTANT PSA ABOUT 'PROBLEMATIC SOURCES'

If you ban certain alters from certain sources from your space, you are being abelist. No one controls how introjects form, no one controls their source and no one exists just to trigger you. Try to take a minute to realize that excluding those alters alienates so many systems. It's not up to you how systems cope.

[frenzy-sys]

Dangerous Persecutors

The thing about persecutors is that there is a high level of nuance that systems as a community (especially the cesspool of syscord) don't talk about in a way that can help recently discovered systems navigate a healthy relationship with these alters.

In case you need to hear this; yes, some alters and persecutors are not safe for the system or responsibilities outside the system. No, some alters are not ready to work on themselves through the power of 'magic and friendship'. Some are violent towards the body or other things like animals/pets, wanting to destroy precious items or spend the system's money maliciously, or intentionally wanting to hurt people close to the system. THIS IS NOT THE SYSTEM'S FAULT OR THE COLLECTIVE ACTIONS OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WHEN AN ALTER DOES ACT THIS WAY. However: It is the system's responsibility in this situation is to do everything it can to control said alter's fronting or take appropriate actions to minimize this behavior/damage.

"That's not nice :(((" is going to mean nothing to them. Some will take years of help and patience to become a team member in the system, and safe to front alone.

One of our oldest members was a persecutor who did not begin his healing until almost 8 years later. It was not until his actions led to him losing the most important person and the only thing he cared about for him to finally be ready to listen and see his faults. And for some alters it will unfortunately be the only way to get off that path and listen.

This alter is not a bad person for how they formed; it is so important to remember that alters form as they are for a reason, and persecutors are most often doing things or believing fully their actions are the right ones, for the system's well-being or their own. And while you need to keep your system safe, you also have to have that patience and system teamwork extended to the struggling alter. In extreme cases, professional help is most often what is needed, especially when they pose a physical threat to others or the body.

They may spit in your face, and threaten that the second they are free they will do horrible things. But It is going to take a combination of both listening to this alter and granting them humanity, while also protecting yourself and people who are at risk of these alter's actions.

[sysboxes]

[Text: This system’s persecutor isolates, please don’t feel hurt if we ignore you for a while.]

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[imp-in-black]

I support 'problematic' alters.

That;

Cause problems constantly

Get people angry

Get banned and blacklisted in servers

Are hated by their system members

Don't regret any of it

Are not allowed to front due to all the above and more

You are good enough, you are allowed to be upset and angry. You can be yourself. You are not less for being 'problematic'.

[freakthingg]

shoutout to people who have persecutors that are genuinely dangerous. persecutors who are abusive to other parts in the system. persecutors who recreate abuse by beating, s/aing, and killing other parts. persecutors who have to be locked up or kept from front for the safety of the system and the body. persecutors who target children, or animals, or other vulnerable alters in the system.

not all persecutors are the edgy, meany part who says not nice things sometimes. some persecutors are genuinely horrible to the rest of the system or those outside it even. not all of them can 'get better' by being talked to gently and told nice words. some need to be locked in places insys or otherwise punished for the safety of the system itself.

i'm not a bad person for having parts like this, nor am i bad person for the way i HAVE to deal with them. i cannot heal them on my own, i need a therapist in order to safely do so. and that doesn't make me a shitty person.

[theoraclesystem]

The only exception to not writing alters as murderous and homicidal to me was the manga series, Deadman Wonderland. This series is a massive comfort and special interest to us that we have multiple introjects from the series.

The only reason I consider this an exception is because of how well it was written and the fact that Shiro was conditioned into murdering animals and people at an extremely young age and throughout her life was conditioned into believing she was in the right for doing it to anyone and anything. She even wanted to stop, but her abuser convinced her that the world deserved it and she was in the right for it.

The creator also obviously did research on Dissociative Identity Disorder before writing it, as they understand that it happens at a very young age due to trauma, understood amnesia and how protectors/persecutors can work, and even understood integration and final fusion and had Shiro and Wretched Egg integrate and final fuse near the end of the series. Their final fusion also created someone who was not like Shiro OR Wretched Egg, meaning the two fusing created another identity that was the two of them fused, as is usually the case in fusing. Wretched Egg was even an introject of Ace Man, a super hero that Shiro and Ganta were obsessed with on TV.

Anyway, check that series out if you want a good story for a character with DID.

[thecataclysmic6]

Hi yes I am persecutor alter and this is my emotional support little.

[positivitycombopack]

Shout out to persecutors who aren’t “reformed.”

You are in your system for a reason. You were split from blood, sweat, tears, and trauma. So much trauma. Someone needed to be mean. Someone needed to be the asshole. And you’re the person who got that job.

You may not like your job. You may love it. But regardless, it’s yours, and you are needed here.

You don’t need to be “reformed” - you don’t need to be good to be welcomed. Yes, the goal is recovery, the goal is to become better - but everyone is at different stages of recovery, and sometimes, that point of recovery just is not attainable yet.

Shout out to persecutors. You don’t get enough love.

[momett]

"yeah YOUR persecutors might be redeemable but MINE aren't-"

shut the entire fuck up. there is no such thing as a "redeemable" or "irredeemable" alter. and if you think so then you are part of the reason why people see persecutors as inherently evil. as if we aren't traumatized indaviduals who were programmed to act like our abusers. as if we deserve to be locked away because we don't perform victimization good enough for you.

[presecutor-userboxes]

Random assortment of Persecutor userboxes I made because I couldn’t find any I liked.

Use these as examples for my work.

Credit is not needed but appreciated.

[non-dys-sys]

Persecutors deserve better and not because they’re “misguided protectors” but because they’re people. -Kage

[flagsandtags]

Could you do a flag for a bpd persecutor?

Bpd persecutor

Alters of a system who take on the role of being a persecutor due to the bodies bpd

Flag made by Saturn!! Req by asker

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[thecorvidforest]

listen as a persecutor in recovery i cannot stress enough how weird and gross and fucked up it is that some of y’all in the plural community treat persecutors so badly just on merit of them being persecutors.

i read something recently where the OP encouraged systems to permanently lock up their persecutors so everyone else can heal and they can’t. i’ve seen posts where hosts and protectors brag about the awful things they do to persecutors. i’ve seen so many depictions even by other systems showing persecutors as irredeemable evil subhuman creatures. it’s fucking disgusting. you know what kind of behavior that is? abusive. it’s abusive behavior.

[persecutor-punk]

Shoutout to the persecutors and other stigmatized alters who arose out of cults and other organized high control environments. We're often seen as unpalatable but we're still here. We're not alone

[pluralcultureis]

Plural culture is having "persecutor parties" where after a rough day all the persecutors end up fronting at once and just dissociating so hard because 3 of them won't stop yelling at each other while the other two are trying to do chores

(spoiler warning; nothing gets done and we stare at a wall for like 3 hours)

[reimeichan]

I was having a conversation with @artisticdysfunction and a few others the other day in one of the servers I'm in, and the topic of persecutors came up. And how most people see persecutors as stereotypically aggressive, edgy, rude types.

Persecutory alters can come in all shapes and sizes and behave in any way. They can be incredibly peppy and polite in a toxic positivity sort of way. They can be shy and introverted to the point they refuse to open up to anyone. They can be be friendly but reserved while in the background they mess with thoughts and memories in a way that hurts the system.

I'd argue that any alter can be a persecutor, or at least engage in persecutory actions, in different circumstances.

What's important is trying to see where these hurtful actions stem from and then trying to address the issues together, as a team. Helping each other out, listening to each other, giving each other space to express yourselves in healthy manners.