#the wlw/nmlnm community

[r3m-ster]

hi guys here is a collection of screenshots of tiktoks that i think all of us in the sapphic community can relate to

[chaotic-diaries-of-yours-truely]

I find it funny how I seem pretty straight irl but when I open my mouth and talk to girls I come up with the most, gayest, lesbian, sapphic compliments and people still assume I'm into men only. (I'm ace and omniromantic asf)

[asteramoon]

cw // lesbophobia and misogyny

sometimes i feel so jaded about the lesbian experience. about being so misunderstood and outcast from the queer community. about everyone thinking lesbophobia is essentially the same as homophobia. about struggling to even find community with other lesbians, because other people come in and ruin it. about so many people discarding the word lesbian, and our beautiful history. about my non-lesbian friends never really getting it, and tuning out my explanations. about me being perceived as a bitch for having any feelings about this. about constantly being talked over, or experiencing forced solidarity in these conversations when other people try to say their experiences are the exact same. about having so little lesbian reputation, and it being overlooked so often with queer stories.

[hornyhoundblog]

WELCOME TO MY PAGE!!

about me:

names I go by: Bee, Hound/Hounddog, Mutt, Ink

recently turned 22

genderfluid

uses all prns and xenos

4'8

likes:

animes: mha, soul eater, haiykuu, naruto, etc.

spicy and sweet foods

games, fnaf, cod, minecraft, apex, rainbow 6, killing floor 2, etc.

dislikes:

sudden loud noises

people UNDER 18 GET AWAY

texture of certain things like polyester or some meats

cis men!

dni list and disliked kinks:

dni if you enjoy or post kinks about pee, vomit, shit, organs

dni if your a cis man

dni if you won't respect my boundaries

dni if your a minor most importantly

dni if you are homophobic, racist, transphobic, ableist, xenophobic, or anything along those lines

thank you for understanding and taking the time to read this. I hope to make some friends on here and have a nice day, love yall!!

[7-omen-7]

lesbians please keep safe on twitter!!

lesbians are being doxxed & having their information spread publicly and being outed to their socials (normally parents)

make sure to get rid off any evidence that you’re lesbian or go private

[andyinmiddleearth]

After Jojo Siwa was being lesbophobic by saying that she dislikes the word “lesbian,” I just want to say that lesbian is not a dirty word and that lesbianism is beautiful. It’s one thing to not like the lesbian label for yourself, but what Jojo did was broadcast lesbophobia to a huge audience.

Also, as an asexual biromantic person I stand in solidarity with all lesbians. I see you, I hear you, and I’m with you. We need bi and lesbian solidarity now more than ever. Lesbians get a lot of hate even within the LGBTQIA+ community, and we need to stop that.

[1-cherrychair-1]

When my mum asks about my friends (how they are etc.) she says:

"How are your girls?"

She says the same thing when she is asking me if I listen to female singers at some moment:

"You're listening to your girls, don't you?"

It seems like maybe she knows that I'm gay, but I also think that she completly don't know about that

(Btw, in polish "girl" and "girlfriend" is the same word)

[modiewunderbare]

The beginning

hola lesbians,

my page is going to be a lesbian safe space. I feel like there are not enough lesbian spot were you get answers and help.

The main goal for this page is to inform baby lesbians and give some wlw/nmlnm music and film tipps, I also want to talk about the lesbian historie and explain things like comphet or just give lesbians a good feeling by just simply writing about how everything you feel and your being is beautiful.

[vavialdavi]

I just wanna talk about how blind I was about my lesbianism. My comphet pals, my shot to you!

1- I used to read a lot NaLu fanfics when I was 14-15 on Wattpad (don't blame me, I was bored and delulu (I still am)).

There were always those being-in-love things description, especially butterflies and I was staring at my screen thinking "wow that's bullshit, I don't feel any of this about my crush." Of course when I first got a conscious crush on a girl, it turns out any of this was bullshit- these butterflies, man-

2- Basically, no one ever explain med to me what romantically loving smb means. So younger me, who had been told multiple by guys how ugly she was, thought thinking often about some mid boy who didn't treat them like crap was love (lmao)

3- I used to pick crushes during elementary school. "Oh, he's pretty, that means I now love him", "Now I'm gonna love him!"

4- I was exagerrating my fictional male """crushes"""(I thought they were cool) because I apparently was hyped enough

5- I thought I couldn't blush about love- For context, I'd almost never turned red outside of when I was lacking air and I'm somehow black (in my one of those light-skin carribean that are in fact mixed with everyone on that earth but mostly africans) since blk ppl don't blush that has my head messed-up.

But in junior year, my friend was making fun of me about the girl I was smitten with and she yelled "OMG you're blusing!". Here was the moment I realized my cheeks had this ability...

6- I didn't get why ppl (men-lover girls) would get crazy over yaoi/bl but def got it about yuri/gl (bfr)

7- At 13, I once asked myself how can gay men not being attracted to women... but never have I ever reversed that question for lesbians

8- I stared at lingeries ads/posters but rolled my eyes and feel sick at any image of man's 6 packs

9- I liked the idea of having boyfriend (I mean by that havung smb in love with) but whenever I tried to picture life together that would stress me out and gimme distgust

10- I never felt anything when I kissed my ex-boyfriend I was apparently in love with but after all this time I still remember the sensations after the first two girls I kissed. I even spent hours with a butterfly in my stomach about one of them even though all my feelings for her were entirely platonic!

11- I first rejected my ex-boyfriend but two days later I had made-up feelings in my head bc as middle-ugly person I was so flattered smb was finally interested in me and didn't to waste my only chance to be in relationship.

Turns out I was into his girl bsf the whole time

12- I prefer the guy pov in romance stories bc it was "mOrE iNtErEsTiNg AnD iT hAs SmTh MoRe"

13- When I tried to write romance I always made the guy fall first but I had to drop them bc I couldn't get the girl to love him back, I didn't know how to- (help)

I now am completed multi sapphic fanfics writer

14- I was unable to explain why I like this or that guy outside of "he is nice and pretty" (which weren't even true) Meanwhile, I easily wrote those +400 words long poetic text about that girl who friendzoned me and that love inspires to write a 120k words romance novel

15- I kinda like fanservice for the boobas

Btw, I'm asexual so even more confusion lol

[kentoscowtie]

I LOVE THE GAYS I LOVE EM I CANT GET ENOUGH OF THEM I PERSONALLY THINK THERE SHOULD BE GAY PEOPLE IN EVERY FORM OF MEDIA FROM HERE ON OUT

[vibrant-the-artist]

HEY YOU! Want some Pride Potions?

Luckily for you, I have some!

Each is made with its own little guardian to protect the essence of pride that these are made from. There are only five that have crept into the open so far, but more are on the way!

As of currently we have:

Kuradow Crow, Guardian of the transgenders. He's saving up shinies for everyone's gender-affirming care.

Blissy Bat, the Bi Guardian

Carmine Cat, who did it for the girls and the gays

Fallon Frog, who's literally turning the frogs gay

and Olive Owl! The Guardian of Asexuality and Kuradow's bestie.

All of these guys are available as stickers over on my Redbubble, and I'm hoping to make more if they start doing well:

https://www.redbubble.com/people/A-Splash-OColor/shop?asc=u

[salisbury-at-the-stake]

man i love being a lesbian

[rollercoasterwords]

ok i'm back at a desk for 8 hours w nothing 2 do so here's the longer post re: nwlnw (nonwoman loving nonwoman) + nmlnm (nonman loving nonman). i think my issue with these terms as labels is that. i see their origin + use coming from this urge to draw really clear + distinct lines around labels in a way that ultimately reinforces gender essentialism. like here i'll trace it:

people use "gay" and "lesbian" as umbrella terms to broadly describe relationships involving two men or two women. so, in the context of fiction + fandom, people will talk about gay + lesbian fics/ships etc

some people decide that "gay" and "lesbian" aren't inclusive enough as labels, because what if one of the partners is bi/pan/identifies as something other than gay or lesbian??

ok, so we need a more inclusive term! let's use words like "sapphic" and "achillean," or "wlw" (woman loving woman) and "mlm" (men loving men)

wlw + mlm start to become more popular as umbrella terms

but wait!!!!! what about nonbinary people?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!

once again, people decide that mlm + wlw are not inclusive enough umbrella terms, because they do not encompass every possible label that someone might identify with

"nmlnm" and "nwlnw" are introduced as even more inclusive umbrella terms

so here are the issues i'm seeing in the evolution of these umbrella terms:

1. hyper-focusing on labels in this way is not productive

like. let's go back to "gay" and "lesbian." let's say, for example, that two women are in a relationship. even if both id as bi, there's nothing wrong with calling that a lesbian relationship, because functionally, that relationship is going to be treated as lesbian by society. like, if we are focusing on experiences and not labels, then gay + lesbian work perfectly fine as umbrella terms. their purpose is not to encompass every single possible configuration of identity that two people in a relationship might hold; their purpose is to communicate to people looking at the label that this relationship falls under a broad category of relationships that are received a certain way by the world at large. y'know?

no umbrella term is ever going to encompass every specific experience that falls beneath it, because that isn't the point of umbrella terms. umbrella terms are useful for grouping broad categories of people who share experiences, even if they don't necessarily share specific identities.

furthermore, both "lesbian" and "gay" are, in and of themselves, somewhat nebulous terms that not everybody is going to use in the same way, and they are also culturally + historically specific terms that have changed over time. if we start to try and draw really clear lines around them, or set firm rules around who does + doesn't get to identify a certain way, eventually you're going to encounter someone who doesn't fit the rules you've created, and that's how you get stupid fucking online debates about shit like whether or not trans men are "allowed" to identify as lesbian.

the utility in labels is in identifying shared experiences. ok? what matters isn't nitpicking each other's language, it's looking at the way we're treated by the world as queers and finding sites of solidarity. so somebody referring to categories of relationships as "lesbian" and "gay" isn't excluding anyone, unless you're hyper-focused on labels rather than experiences. it's like fucking.....vampire rules. like i'm throwing a party, and the door is wide open, and then u come up to the door and ur like "umm u need to invite me in." and i'm like ??? the door's wide open if u want to come in u should just come in....and ur like "no u don't understand i have to follow VAMPIRE RULES and that means u need to follow them too or ur excluding me!!!"

like. ur not a fucking vampire babe. just come inside.

2. feels like....a weird conceptualization of "nonbinary." to me.

because "nmlnm" and "nwlnw" have basically just become interchangable with "wlw" and "mlm," it kinda just feels like....people grouping whatever they consider women and Women Lite, and then men and Men Lite. y'know? like babe i'm sorry but if u are actually trying to break down all gender binaries here to include every single possible nonbinary person...well where is a boydyke like me supposed to go between ur little labeled "nonman" and "nonwoman" boxes hmm?? sorry but ur gonna have 2 get rid of the "man" and "woman" from ur labels altogether i fear. which leads into...

3. saying "non-man" and "non-woman" still ultimately leads back to gender essentialism bc it requires u to define "man" and "woman"

like. either we accept that umbrella terms have leaky borders and will never fully encompass every possible identity, but that's okay because, again, the borders aren't these clearly drawn lines but rather porous and amorphous and shifting--or we insist that labels must exist within clearly delineated boxes so that we can Categorize Every Identity, in which case you end up with labels like "non-man" and "non-woman" which, though supposedly inclusive, require you to provide a set definition of both "woman" and "man" in order to explain what you are defining your category against. and once you start trying to find set definitions to categorize "men" and "women"....well guess what's gonna happen babes!!!!!! that's right!!! we're gonna stray back into the territory of gender essentialism.

like. at the end of the day i basically just see "nwlnw" and "nmlnm" labels as an extension of this exhausting tendency to try and draw really clear borders around every identity in the queer community, which is antithetical to what queerness even is and ultimately leads to a bunch of useless in-fighting. i'm sure the people using these terms are just trying to be inclusive, but the issue is that your "inclusivity" relies on exclusivity in the first place by treating labels as strict borders that are exclusive to anyone who doesn't fit the criteria you've decided they need to fit to claim them. y'know?

in conclusion: i will be sticking with lesbian + gay + dyke + fag for my umbrella terms thank u very much <3

[genderstarbucks]

i'm (slightly transmasc) nb but i love women in what i consider to be a queer way, and my feelings towards women align a lot with the sapphic/lesbian community, are there any words for this experience?

You can still use the terms sapphic and/or lesbian! Just because you're not a woman doesn't mean you're excluded from using these labels. Yeah, sapphic is usually considered wlw but lots of nonbinary people use it too! You could also use the term trixic (nblw) or faunic (nmlnm)

But if for whatever reason using sapphic and/or lesbian doesn't resonate with you, here's some labels

Azalean / QLW is an orientation where one is queer, in any form, and loves women. They can also love any other genders.

Qlw flags

Saphboy flags

Lesboy / Lesbimasc flags

Lesboy or boy lesbian (boysbian) is an identity for an individual who in some way identifies as a boy/man that is gay/queer for women (lesbian). It can include:

- An individual who is cusper between transgender man and a cisgender butch lesbian.

- An individual who is cusper between (lesbian) transgender woman and gender non-conforming cis man.

- A cross-aligned lesbian, such as a man-aligned/solarian girl or a woman-aligned/lunarian boy.

- A multigender individual or an individual who otherwise identifies as male and female simultaneously (girlboy) and feels attraction to women.

- An individual who is genderfluid and identifies as a lesbian, even when they are male.

- A centrigender individual experiencing a gender in between fiaspec and miaspec while femaric.

- A lesbiangender, sapphicgender, lesbiagender, or sapphogender man.

- Anyone else who is in some way a boy/man/masculine and feels their attraction to women is gay/queer.

[empress-hancock]

I am so sick and tired of the gendies treating being bi as something bad!! They all identify out of it! They’re pansexual or omnisexual or they call themselves lesbians but still like dick and pretend that makes them lesbians because the dick is attached to someone who calls himself a woman. They id as nonbinary so they can call their attraction to both men and women gay, they call themselves boygirl f*gd*kes and qu**r and make up usernames with f*g in them and talk about how gay they are. Even the ones who still id as bi will call themselves wlw, sapphic, gay, nmlnm, before they call themselves bi! And not only that but they do that with lesbian too, as if they’re trying to erase them both and make them interchangeable! And all of this because they think being bi isn’t “gay enough.” But that’s the thing, of course it isn’t. Of course being bi isn’t gay enough! It’s being bi! It’s different! It’s not something to be measured against other sexualities! Being bi is a completely separate experience from being gay! The same people who claim “being bi isn’t any less lgbt than being gay! Being bi in a het relationship is still qu**r!” then go on to try everything they can to id out of being bi because being bi isn’t lgbt enough for them and they have to make themselves gay. These people lament “bi erasure” but they are the ones erasing us!! And erasing actual homosexuality as well! I’m sick of it!! The lgb are no longer part of that community! We’re old hat! We’re not interesting enough! They’ve done everything they can to replace our identities with new, made-up ones! I really do not get how the few people within that group who still call themselves bi haven’t woken up to how fucking stupid it all is, and I also don’t get why, among those of us who have woken up, we have hostility between the l & b. Lesbians are like the only ones who aren’t trying to erase bisexuality! Lesbians are the ones trying to establish that there is a difference between homosexuality and bisexuality, instead of trying to mush us all into one group where our experiences are completely indistinguishable from someone else’s. For so long bisexuality has kind of hopped onto the back of homosexuality in terms of culture and that’s why we don’t have a long running culture unique to us (a fact often used, unfortunately, to defend the idea that being bi is the same as being gay), but this is the perfect opportunity for us to create one and we’re not doing that! We need to take the baton that lesbians have passed to us and run with it! They are our teammates! They are the only ones not trying to redefine us! We need to focus more on addressing the rampant biphobia and homophobia of homophobic bisexuals who want to do everything they can to either identify out of bisexuality, or make bisexuality and homosexuality indistinguishable, instead of fighting with the lesbians who support us. We have an enemy and it isn’t lesbians and I don’t see enough discussion about biphobic bisexual genides

[frostycl0ver]

SAPPHIC DISCORD SERVER ALERT !!!

I made a discord server for anyone lesbian, bi, pan, sapphic, wlw, nmlnm, etc! joiiiiiiin