#they both exist and are both valid and like WTF

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Ace discourse in this year? Its more likely than you think.

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

Can u not tag malleus or other characters when u hate on them pls it makes me sad

Hello, and thank you for reaching out about this! I do apologize for your discomfort 💦

I believe that this ask comes as a result of this post, as that’s the most recent post I can think of which might match the description of “hating on Malleus”. You’ll note that there is now a Malleus Draconica critical tag, which you can block if you choose to. This way, you won’t come across it while browsing my blog.

I’ve also gone ahead and retroactively tagged other related posts (although they’re mostly posts from the past year or two). There are similar tags for other characters, such as #Vil Schoenheit critical and the like. These tags are put on posts in which I discuss why I don’t like a particular character. I hope you can use these tags and the blocking feature to best curate your own experience on this blog.

The reason why I elected to make a new tag rather than exclude my posts altogether from the main tags is because I don’t think that it’s conducive to shut away “negativity” about a character when Twst is a game that actively promotes characters of a dubious nature. It encourages us to embrace both the good and the bad aspects of its large cast of colorful characters—so I don’t think there’s anything wrong with pointing out their flaws or why someone might not like X or Y for them. This can make some people uncomfortable, certainly. However, I don’t think that’s a reason to prevent sharing of this critique with others who might gain new insight from it. I say this as someone who has gained insight myself by reading about characters I dislike, and someone who has been told that their works have entirely changed people’s minds about certain characters. It goes both ways.

Even if someone dislikes a character I happen to like, I find it helpful to read conflicting opinions to gain a fuller perspective. I want to give others that opportunity as well. I realize that not everyone may share this sentiment though, which is why there’s always the option to block what you don’t wish to see. (Prioritize your own comfort!!) I think people should be able to choose not to look at content that upsets them, but I don’t think it makes sense for this content to be hidden from others who may be interested in seeing “the other side”, if that makes sense!

I also believe that fandom—especially as of late—seems to conflate critique with hate, to the point where the slightest criticism of a character or content is labelled as “hate”. This can lead to a dangerous area where anything that isn’t immediate and glowing praise is deemed “bad”. That’s not an area I want this fandom to hit, as it would inevitably limit our ideas (although this also applies to all other fandoms).

In reality, “hate” and “critique” are NOT synonyms of each other. Hate is hostile and exists purely to shame or to tear down the content in question. It doesn’t consider the other side or care to ask questions. Critique is judgment or opinion of that content, and it is usually meant to help improve the content. It has us ask “why?” and “how?” To put it simply, hate is “you’ll never be better” and critique is “you can do better”.

In this instance, perhaps the previous anon’s statements (“[…] now I'm a hater. Like wtf. He’s so incompetent.”) are hate. (Even so, they’re entitled to feel the way that they do, even if the way the opinion was expressed was over-the-top.) I do think I was emotional in my response, but I don’t think I expressed myself in a hateful manner overall. I opened with what is arguably a defense of his behavior and then went on to point out a legitimate character flaw Malleus has and how not everyone reading those vignettes would perceive that flaw in a gracious manner. It’s not blind hatred; it’s valid critique and it comes from a place of wanting to see him improve as a person. I try to not character bash because no one (myself included) feels good seeing others hating on their favorites. Malleus has flaws, and so do all the other characters. Those flaws should be acknowledged, and it’s up to the individual to determine whether those flaws result in liking or disliking that particular character.

I’m not saying that everyone should agree with my stance on the Malleus Dorm Uniform vignettes or how I feel about Malleus in general. What I am saying is that not all negative statements made about a character should automatically be categorized as “hate”. I worry that if we stretch the definition of the word too loose, it could become a situation where any and all critique is silenced 💦 What happens when no critique is allowed? Everyone begins to think the same way or has to be fearful of expressing an opinion, and fandom becomes so much less fun for everyone involved… And, worse still, the canon content itself can feel confident resting on its laurels and not actually put forth the effort to “be better” (since there’s no negative feedback coming from the fandom).

Again, I encourage you to curate your online experience!! Do whatever makes you the most comfortable. If you don’t like seeing something, there is zero shame in blocking it or taking whatever steps necessary to disengage. Lastly, please take care to not to overgeneralize what counts as “hate”!

Thank you for your time 🙇‍♀️ I know I probably rambled for way longer than necessary cnsbjwvuwgejbe

[pokeballvictim]

Sorry I wasn’t clear. It was regarding the HDG post. I just think that it feels like a pretty aggressive way to say “I dislike this fantasy” that villainizes people who do enjoy it.

It just feels unfair to be like “HDG doesn’t acknowledge its own problematic themes” while there are so many (good) posts that paint trans women as sexual predators? And the post really does so in an aggressive way that feels disproportionately pointed at trans women who otherwise agree with/enjoy your posts.

Like I know it’s not your post and I’m sorry for how forward I’m being about it. It just felt like “wtf” to see this blog I really enjoy and post these unethical kinks to post something like that.

Also FWIW most HDG fans I know are fully willing to engage with the fact that it has problematic themes.

I mean okay but like. If you look at a post criticizing a shared universe type of thing and take it as "this user is calling trans women fascists" then that's kind of on you. And you bringing up specific HDG fans doesn't really hold any water because my primary interaction with HDG fans is when they come onto a post that is not about HDG and bring it up. I'm not in HDG spaces discussing HDG.

The fact is that HDG is a shared universe with a LOT of rules applied that restrict what can be done with it, and it takes up a fairly large portion of the kink writing space that it exists in. And that would be fine if it were not such a tightly controlled universe! Let's step away from using terms like "ethical" or "valid" for a second, okay? I don't have any issue with people who like plant women, or get off to reverse colonialism, or want to have that kind of soft ownership. The problem is that HDG establishes these rules around its setting to make it non-offensive, and those rules do not work. By saying that pregnancy is not allowed, but drugs are, HDG is making a political statement about what is "unhealthy or dangerous for the community." By saying that axiomatically, the affini are both imperialist and benevolent, HDG is making a political statement about what constitutes danger! It's a similar issue to people in a faux medieval European setting having coffee, or bananas, or british accents. I'm going to give writers the benefit of the doubt and hope that the rules of HDG are subverted or deconstructed at times, but these rules place limitations on creativity for the sake of creating this toothless, non-offensive setting, which doesn't even manage to be that!

Like there was this whole conversation about Stardew Valley a little while ago. There's nothing wrong with enjoying your farming game. But the base assumptions of the game are political! Pretending that Stardew Valley is a cozy, harmless game does a disservice to your own intelligence. You play as someone who inherited land and manages to run a farm on your own! You can't treat that as non-political! The same is true of Human Domestication Guide - by setting these politically charged rules as the default axioms of the setting, it charges everything in HDG with a message. I, personally, find that message to be offputting and kind of tasteless, and I think it reflects poorly on the people who go to bat for HDG. None of these opinions would apply if HDG was a standalone kink piece.

[ihopeinevergetsoberr]

You say talk to me about Viktor and I am here to talk about Viktor. What films would this man watch? Would he have a favourite film? I'm such a film snob that I am so afraid to go there, but would he fucking cry on Star Wars? Is he truly a nerd as we paint them? Or he doesn't even bother with that and plays computer games instead? Or is he an utter man out of this era and just reads books? Does he love The Brief History of Time? Help. HELP WHAT ARE THEESE MAN'S HOBBIES he cannot just be into science, I do not accept this reality. My HC is that he loves Frank Herbert and hates the new adaptation of Dune :v He also probably likes Philip K. Dick. But that's BITCH BASIC I need MORE. And now a praise: your writing takes me to another dimension. It's amazing how I read your stuff and feel no negativity, no worry, just pure appreciation that I am able to interact with something so poetically hot. Loved Fornication, made me want to get drunk and low-key jealous of Reader's relationship with Viktor.

OKAY SO he’s either some niche videogames nerd or he’s that one annoying pretentious fuck who only ever plays chess (this has nothing to do with my fic /srs) it’s just a very tricky 50/50 cause he could easily be BOTH. he looks like could be… idk…. a fucking path of exile 2 nerd. or like he’s prejudiced towards people who game period point blank. bro’s steam account is either terrific or terrifically non-existent.

GOD it really is a tough one. i feel like act 1 viktor could be the pretentious fuck. HOWEVER. act 2 viktor is an exhausted guy who just wants to go home and play some sekiro. do you see the vision…..

as for the books he reads…. he doesn’t read fiction. same goes for movies. like if we’re talking about modern aus i feel like he’s just SO out of touch with what young people even like these days. give him a documentary and he’ll eat it up. i feel like he’d be one of them annoyed mfs who went to see oppenheimer and proceeded to complain about it being not 100% historicaly accurate. and if you make him watch breaking bad he’ll be annoyed it had dubious chemistry here and there.

— viktor, they can’t give us a step-by-step guide on how to cook crystal meth. that’s literally ILLEGAL

— i couldn’t care less. science is a commitment. a flimsy law-suit is a small price to pay for maintaining accuracy

but anyways i feel like he would also be into history. documentaries, memoirs of various historical figures, everything tediously lovely and cool and ACCURATE. i don’t know. i like pulling him out of arcane and placing him into some 80-90s dark academia au. you will never catch me writing him in an ACTUALLY modern setting because i like painting him as this sickeningly charming, detached from the pop-culture sassy man. i love pretentious guys okay. they’re so annoying i want to eat them

i also have this random hc that viktor used to be REALLY into medical shit once but he never wanted to become a doctor…. why? that i don’t know. he’s just. such an erudite when it comes to all kinds of complex stuff. when he read some victorian classics in highschool (dracula, for instance) he was absolutely furious and declared it a horror book not because of all the tame vampire stuff, but because the blood-transfusions were conducted at random (blood types were discovered only in 1901, and before that victorian doctors would just. choose the donor based on whoever looked the least pale that day. i’m genuinely surprised we’ve made it this long. read all this in viktor’s voice, by the way, i feel like he knows all these cools random facts and overshares them A LOT)

your frank herbert hc is totally valid though. I CAN SEE THAT. YES ABSOLUTELY???

like i said — MODERN modern aus are not my jam to write but i love reading that when it’s done tastefully. and you never disappoint <3

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AND THANK YOU FOR PRAISING ME QUITE SO HIGHLY WTF IM LITERALLY CRYING I DONT DESERVE U

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[gingerale2017]

modern fic where kai and cinder get into a really really bad argument that shouldn’t have been as bad as it was if they communicated properly and both sides are wrong and both sides have valid points and it gets so bad that it lasts months and they’re sick of arguing so they decide to get a “divorce” (they delay it so much that they bring the papers home #dead #whyaretheystupid) and their friends are like wtf happened and they’re split on team kai or team cinder (cress is team kai thorne is team cinder iko is team theyrenotactuallygonnadivorceguys scarlet is team whendidwelastcheckuponthem?) and then the night they actually sing the papers kai tears them apart cried and begs for forgiveness cinder thinks she’s the reason it got so bad and wonders why he thinks it’s his fault and why he would want to stay married to her and they go all the way to the root of the argument and realize THAT IF THEY JUST OPENED UP IT WOULDNT HAVE PILED UP (ps it all started bc kai got sick of having to apologize all the time (SUCK IT UP KAI UGH YOU COWARD) bc cinder wouldn’t take accountability and cinder noticed him ignoring her a bit at events and thought it was bc she wasn’t enough but instead of TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT AND CLEARING UP THE AIR (ignoring her was not his intention she was reading into it too much) she get’s petty and jealous (girl yk better)) and they cry and cinder throws the papers in the fire and they wonder if they’re actually divorced bc they signed it but they burnt it and it physically doesn’t exist anymore so the next morning the gang thinks they’re divorced so they send wolf with a congratudolences cake bc he’s team neutral and they don’t know who kept the house and they’re all stocked in a van waiting to see who opens the door bc they placed bets on who lives there (idk?) and kai opens it holding cinder by her waist and everyone’s like wtf and iko was like guys i told you and everyone’s happy and they throw a congratulations on not divorcing paty!

and all the while jacin and winter got engaged and didn’t want to ruin the mood by announcing it so they got secretly married in a courtroom

[starberry-cupcake]

Something I find really amusing about CCSakura lore (as messy as CLAMP can be with consistency) is how Touya and Syaoran both have in common the fact that they inadvertently fucked over Clow's predictions and are now crucially inserted in whatever goes on whether they want it or not, having both insane unpredictable magic.

Touya derailed Clow's plans possibly just by being born and that he didn't consider that Fujitaka could have two kids. Him just existing and finding Yukito already changed everything. Yukito's independent nature from Yue's memories, born from the need of him to ignore his given purpose until the right time, gave him a clean slate of freedom of choice which he used to stick to Touya instead of Sakura, as Clow had considered would happen. Yukito fell for him without even knowing that he or Touya had magic. Then Touya gave Yue his magic, while acknowledging Yue as a different entity separate from Yukito but equally as valid and worthy of being saved, and as much as Yue cares deeply about Sakura, you can't convince me that magic gift in itself wasn't something that finally pushed him to start moving past his grief for Clow once and for all, especially at a time they knew for a fact that Clow was somehow lingering, because his magic was showing up.

Not only that but Touya ended up having even more magic, independent from Clow's own, and is one of the incredibly few people in existence who can control time magic and when asked by Kero, Spinel and Ruby Moon wtf is up with that he goes like 'what, like it's hard?'.

Then Syaoran, after losing his right over the cards, just decides to stick around, risking his life persistently to save and assist Sakura, and instead of feeling a sense of competition forever because of his bloodline and what he was taught to feel entitled to due to his upbringing, he just decides he'll give her whatever he can to help her if she asks, because he loves her. And Sakura also falls in love with him. And the cards become attached to Syaoran because Sakura is attached to him and their magic intermingles in a way in which not only she can lend him cards, they tag along with him out of their own free will without Sakura even knowing because they care for him too, out of Sakura's love and out of their own choice because hey, this kid is good.

And Syaoran develops his magic as a separate form from Clow's and it becomes powerful enough to break through insane powerful magical barriers to reach Sakura when she's in danger.

And neither of them really knew what the fuck they were actually getting into in the first place, because one was just vibing with a guy he met at school and the other one was sent at age 10 by his family to pick some cards in a foreign country and now they're magical beacons forever attached to Clow's legacy.

[sunnysaystuff]

My stance on the Jegulus-Jily-"All Death Eaters suck because canon says so" dispute (or whatever):

TLDR AT THE BOTTOM!!!!!!!!!!!

After receiving MULTIPLE hate asks (wtf I'm literally nobody why do you care so much) guess I have to put this out here!!

first up - stuff I think is important:

Wolfstar isn't canon and it's the backbone of the fandom, so why do we suddenly decide canon is the shit when people write Jegulus/Jegulily fics? "James would've never liked a Death Eater" fanfiction means you can make stuff up, regardless of what canon James would've liked or wanted.

"Canon-compliant Jegulus fics don't make sense" did James explicitly tell you to your face that he would never date Regulus :0 canon-compliant is a very loose term. a lot of the time it just means that canonical deaths and plot-related events occurred, moreso than relationship-related events.

Jegulus haters often say that Jegulus fans constantly villainize Lily, but the fact of the matter is that they don't. You see more Jily fans villainizing Regulus for originally being a Death Eater than you see Jegulus fans villainizing Lily. "Regulus deserves the villainization and Lily hasn't done anything wrong" - reminder that you can hate on canon Regulus all you want (despite the fact that he eventually changed) but you should know that fanfiction might present him differently. Random fanfic Regulus is not the canon Regulus you despise.

Jegulus fans who despise Snape for his actions in canon aren't being very fair. He joined the Death Eaters and then he ended up working against the Dark Lord, just as Regulus did. Yes, he spent years bullying Harry, but do you honestly think Regulus wouldn't have behaved similarly if he had been in a similar position? If Regulus had been in love with Lily, and James and his brother and their friends were constantly making fun of him, and then Lily died after marrying someone he hated, do you think Regulus would have treated the godson of his estranged brother who betrayed Lily, the identical-to-James son of his enemy, with fairness or kindness? Regulus was canonically also not a nice person at all - was literally a Voldemort fanboy, and Snape wasn't even confirmed to be that much - and in fanon he's often characterized as this petty little shit. So do you think Regulus wouldn't have been awful to Harry as well?

Adding on to that, people call Snape toxic and creepy for being "obsessed with Lily" (he loved her because she was a bright spot in his awful life, platonic or romantic. Obsessed? Maybe <- My hot take), but when Regulus does it with James, it's sexy?

"Stop romanticizing Death Eaters" if it's not your cup of tea, don't read. I think these characters are just that, characters, and fanon stuff means you can do whatever you want with them! You can rewrite someone's entire story and personality if you want (ex: THOSE Dark Harry fics, a number of Dramione fics).

my personal opinions:

Jily and Jegulus are both super fun ships. Love 'em equally, though I'd say currently I'm leaning toward Jily.

I love Jegulily. I think it's really fun and has a lot of potential :0

I'm alr with Snape bashing and no Snape bashing (it's not that deep gang, same for Peter 'cause honestly it's kinda silly how people try to sub-in other characters as the 4th Marauder. Peter existed y'all.)

I think the Black sisters deserve more attention :0

Yes sometimes the characters are ooc in fics!! What to do when you see this and don't like it is click the back button!!

I don't have a problem with Remadora, but I prefer Wolfstar :)

I don't believe in canon casanova of gryffindor tower; I think it's cute in fanon though<3

endnotes/tldr since I wrote a whole essay:

ship and let ship. every (non-proship) ship is valid. this is what fanon's for.

let people hc and do what they want omg pls stop throwing hands over little things

have your opinions they're valid! just don't try to force them on others!!

feel free to argue with me in notes if you want; just be respectful please! I'm down to hear others' opinions; you might change my mind on stuff!!

might add more if I missed anything! I just thought it was lowkey important to put my opinion out here.

[altocat]

Smh too many people here lately who just don't understand any of these characters. Wtf FF fandom

I'm fine with different interpretations. To each his own. But I don't like the recent surge of victim blaming going around for Seph, Genesis, and Angeal. I think it's wholly possible for fictional characters to be both victims worthy of sympathy and victimizers worthy of blame. But it's important for people to pay attention to context in BOTH regards. And everything points back to Shinra. All three characters are exactly what Shinra made them and they all act accordingly. If not for Shinra they either wouldn't exist or would have had healthier, normal lives where their actions wouldn't have even been an issue.

They're all deeply broken, deeply exploited individuals. Individuals with FLAWS, both human and inhuman. And it's fine to lean more towards one way than another in the victim/villain spectrum. But it's also equally important to acknowledge the other side of the coin as well.

More than anything, I'm tired of the mentality that any moral grayness is automatically seen as giving these characters a pass for their actions. No. It doesn't. It contextualizes and adds nuance to their actions, NOT validate. The goal is to understand these characters, follow their arcs and stories, and fill in the missing pieces when the writing falters. That's how you build a story and its mythos. To lump characters into basic categories drains them of their color and potential. It takes away all a fandom could be, rich with lore made by people who love these characters and want to explore them and the world at large. And god, even MORE so when you sit there and put labels on passionate people who are just trying to enjoy and escape. It sets a harmful precedent that shames people for being curious, for opening their feelings, for showing any empathy at all.

BE curious with these characters. Be empathetic. Be their potential when the writing fails or the story stumbles. Breathe for them and add your own emotions and rhythms. That's what keeps characters alive, what keeps FANDOM alive.

[au-wannabe-the-very-best]

For the, what I'm calling, Arceus Creation Akari AU, Ingo needs to take Akari on her own journey of self discovery. He wants to see his Akari again, not the Panic and Depressed Akari that came reom her realization that she's a Clone of Champion Dawn.

Also, my idea is that Akari and/or Rei are from a Failed Platinum World, like the Failed Diamond and/or Pearl World, where Cyrus succeeded, with Akari and/or Rei being safe because of Arceus. But because of Cyrus using Giratina, that world dies and Arceus takes Akari and/or Rei to Hisui to start fresh, not counting on Ingo deciding that he will take Akari and/or Rei with them back home.

Ingo going on a journey with Akari is really sweet!!! Maybe Ingo, Emmet, and Akari go on a break from everything and travel around another region for a while. Emmet needs the break, he's been working both his and his brother's shifts for years and a vacation is long overdue. Ingo needs the time to acclimate to the new living conditions that he's just not used to anymore. Both perfectly valid excuses that won't make Akari feel like she's eating up their time worrying about her!

Because she will try to close herself off. She came to the future with Ingo under the assumption that she would eventually be reunited with her own family. She was not meant to be Ingo's responsibility, especially not in the long term. Ingo may have taken her in after the revelation that she doesn't "exist," but that might just because of obligation— after all, she brought him home, so maybe he feels like he has to put up with her, rather than truly wanting her around.

Going on a vacation and journeying around with her could potentially put her fears to rest, in that regard. Now it's just Ingo and Emmet trying to get her to understand something that might be a bit difficult for her; you don't need a purpose to live. Sometimes you just exist.

I want her to eventually get to that point where she realizes the only "purpose" she needs to have anymore is to love a lot and enjoy her life as she lives it.

In regards to the "failed platinum world," I find it really difficult to imagine simply because Cynthia... is perfectly capable of beating Cyrus' ass. It's actually kind of wild to think of but the protagonist in the DPP games wasn't necessarily needed to save the world, they just did it because they wanted to and they happened to be around.

Actually like. Shame on Cynthia and literally the entire Sinnoh league for leaving everything into the ten year old's hands, like wtf you could EASILY have handled that clusterfuck yourselves. What are you even doing.

[luserat]

Me and my friends are facing a lot cancelations from multiple communities [Read below to know more]

So me and my friends are facing lot of cancelation from a lot of communities. We had spiritual brainwave entrainment project. It combines two types of view point, neuroscience and spirituality. It brings a classic debate of science vs spirituality where ever we are invited to talk. Keep in mind, we don't go to various communities and look for approval, they first invite us because we have done extensive research on the area. But when we are invited by a neuroscience community, yes the science nerds.. yes they see us with speculation, even though impressed with seeing with results they question the validity of how the research was done. They then berate us according to their country/university, laws, regulations and ethics. Which hey? We don't belong to your country. Not every country laws, regulations and ethics are like USA. There are other much larger democracies that exist in this planet. Sure, spiritual terms and concepts are not in your science books, doesn't change the fact that there are such experiences observed by spiritual people, and they have defined explained those concepts and processes. On the other hand when we are invited by spiritual communities, they devalue our work and say these science tools can never give us enlightenment or help us in spiritual progress because spirituality is beyond those tools. We can never measure the quality of work with quantitative approach. Okay? Then tell me this, when man discovered fire, it was a scientific discovery and we use it for all sorts of spiritual purposes, should we stop using fire all together? At the end of the day brainwave entrainment spiritual tools are tools any tool requires a bit of skill to be used and it depends on the user how they use it. Such as a knife is a tool, you can use it to make a salad or kill someone. Both requires a different style of skill and intent and purpose of user changes the outcome. Then comes the part of big tech such as google forcing us to register as an organization in play store console account because hey, spiritual meditation falls in "Health and fitness" apps category so it medical software and medical software can only be made by organizations not individuals? Then another issue with big tech comes is that since they are so big they think they are above everybody and can dictate things technical side of things? Well hello? Your big systems and expert / specialist reviewers can make errors too. Doesn't mean you make your erroneous decision absolute and walk over others. Our app used play asset delivery for android but apparently google play console reviewers are unable to utilize that system because hey? guess what, the play asset delivery of google during app review time doesn't work. So what we should do? We should go ahead suspend the app, and remove it from the play store. Because we are "Google" we are so big WE KNOW EVERYTHING! yeah as if? But people chose US! Nope, you just brought your way in to everyone's availability and accessibility. That's it. You are monopoly, you SHOULD BE BROKEN UP! In niche game dev communities we face cancellations from other game dev such as the character is not dark enough, you are white washing the character. WTF? There are all sorts of colors in human race with all sorts of skin tone!! We are not required to include every skin tone humanity has with couple of characters a game has. And yes some countries' regions do have dominance of one skin tone over other. Stop making this a USA culture issue. No we didn't included LGBTQ characters because guess what? Not all countries have that big or vibrant communities of LGBTQ, some country cultures are more traditional and see it as inappropriate to show these to children.

Have an open mind the world and universe is bigger than you know or believe!

I guess that's the end of my rant.

[riverstixxelf]

I love the SPN fandom but honestly it’s so stressful sometimes 😭

For example earlier today I googled “Misha Collins girlfriend” because I heard a rumor that he has a girlfriend, I couldn’t find much besides stuff talking about Vicky so I scrolled down and saw a tumblr post saying something about Misha being attracted to men (which I don’t necessarily disagree with, but I don’t want to tell another person what they are) and women so I clicked on it and it was a huge post (like, a couple paragraphs) talking about some strange things. I don’t remember exactly but at one point the user brought up the “fact” that Misha makes jokes about women and sex?? As in making jokes at the expense of women… and I was like… are we talking about the same Misha here? He DOES make jokes about sex but I don’t recall him ever making jokes at the expense of women. Only thing I can think of is that one story about one of his earlier acting jobs and he didn’t know the “no tongue rule” but that was mostly at the expense of himself. Then I scrolled and found another post that was pretty disturbing…

Someone had screenshotted a regular instagram caption that Jensen posted just talking about how he just got done traveling, he wanted to take a nap, something like that—nothing sexual about the post at all or anything that would suggest that—and someone captioned it with something talking about him and Misha rubbing their [babymakers] together??? I audibly laughed out loud because wtf 😭😭

I don’t want to shame Jenmish shippers (I say Jenmish because Cockles is just a… very interesting name), even though I think it’s the slightest bit strange to be shipping real people… but again I never want to put anyone down for anything because I myself have said some stuff about Jensen and Misha that might suggest something between them.

Another thing is just the amount of hate for various cast members. Mostly the hate I see is for Jared and Misha; J2 fans who hate Misha, Jenmish fans who hate Jared, etc. There’s a lot of love in this fandom but ohmygOD there’s so much hate too. I guess that’s true for any fandom, but it’s so tiring sometimes.

Also, in this fandom, you’ll get hounded for any opinion you have. If you don’t like destiel, you’re homophobic. If you do like destiel, you’re also homophobic for some reason because queer bating or whatever… for the record i’d like to state that I am a proud destiel shipper just fyi. But I see so many people take it to the extreme, make little things into big things or something along those lines. Same thing with cockles shippers I was talking about earlier. I feel like I have a pretty neutral viewpoint on stuff regarding destiel; I see most things how they are, and I make my assumptions based on CANON things. I don’t say “Dean and Cas are definitely fucking”, I say “Dean and Cas love eachother but they cant express it, because Cas wasn’t even sure what love was and Dean’s highest ideal of love is family, which is why he says Cas is like a brother to him”. Now, if you don’t agree with me, guess what… that’s okay! If you don’t think destiel exists, that’s a valid point, and i’m not gonna dox you just because you have a different opinion than me. Because that’s just it, it’s an OPINION.

I could get into Sam haters and Dean haters and stuff… but I’m tired. Actually, you know what, screw it. I WILL GET INTO IT!!!

I’ve had a few experiences with Dean haters especially, and most of the time they just ADORE Sam and thinks he’s done nothing wrong. Let me clarify that I don’t hate Sam- like- at all. Then again, Dean haters who happen to be Sam stans have warped my view on Sam a little, but I won’t let that get in my way of honest judgment.

Sam. has. done. bad. stuff. DEAN. has. done. bad. stuff. Please don’t compare their trauma, they both have their own issues, one isn’t better than the other.

I might be biased because I relate to Dean so much (like a crazy amount it’s not even funny…), but for the millionth time in a row I DO NOT HATE SAM. I saw someone saying how Dean was the cause of almost every single world-ending event that happened in SPN… like honey no. Another person replied to their comment listing all of the world-ending events… and guess what… Sam was the cause of most of them!! Does that make him a hate-worthy character? No!!

I don’t know what point i’m trying to make here. I just think there’s so much in-fighting within the SPN fandom and as much as I love being in the fandom sometimes you just gotta have a break from all the drama. If you made it this far… go outside or something don’t pay attention to me i’m chronically online.

[ashironie]

OMG I JUST LISTENED TO THE NEWEST EPISODE AND—

Gerry sound so… happy

At first I didn’t recognize his voice and assumed Jonny just named another character Gerry, but then Gertrude was there and…

That all makes me so happy.

AND THEN AN ALICE AND GWEN INTERACTION!!! DYHARD FOR THE WIN!!! SURE THEY WERE AT EACHOTHERS THROATS MOST THE TIME BUT IF YOU SQUINT IT SOUNDS LIKE MILDLY UNHAPPY ROOMMATES!!! THATS BETTER THAN VERY UNHAPPY ROOMMATES!!!!

Ugh, they are so in love. They sound like a toxic st8 couple that’s been married for 50 years and makes ‘ball and chain’ jokes.

GEORGIE GEORGIE GEORGIE GEORGIE GEORGIE!!!!!!!! YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!

Also the statement seemed like… ok here’s a list of everything I could get from it

“and feelings of the uncanny” (about liminality) (1)

Two things for this quote “it creates an effect of absence despite presence, an ‘architectural hunger’ of a sort.” (4)

“The top of the tower… featured unmatched panoramic views of the surrounding rural countryside on all sides.” (3)

“a soulless fairground,” (regarding the previous area) (2) (4)

“there were less and less people every night.” (2) (4)

“There was a nebulous haze across the entire car park…muted colors punctuated with more vivid reds, whites and yellows… I realized it primarily hovered above the asphalt.” (1) (2) (4)

“the phenomena was accompanied by a disquieting sense of absence. Of hunger.” (4)

“kaleidoscope” (1) (4)

The description of the “You Are Here!” Woman (1)

“a particularly high tide of color swept down the corridor toward me.” (1) (4)

The repeating patrons of the Restaurant (1)

The Void (3) (4)

“Their grip on me tightened, a dozen hands pushing and pulling me as one.” (1) (2)

“opened his mouth, and bit into me.” And the ensuing cannibalism (? Is it really cannibalism if you aren’t human?) (2) (4)

“leaping out one of those windows into pure oblivion” (3) (4)

Okokokokok SO! I’ve put numbers to everything so I can talk about everything easier. (1) The Uncanny (both from The Stranger and The Spiral, they have similar enough vibes to me) (2) The Lonely (3) The Vast (4) The Hunger/The Nothing.

The uncanniness of this statement is undeniable, reminds me of the previous episode actually. It’s also worth a mention that the author constantly denies the validity of anything he says and just thinks he was going through an episode, which could be Spiral coded or just statement stuff. Since everything is copy and pasted that seems closer to that idea but still.

The author keeps talking about the lack of people at the beginning and a particular fixation on how they act (seems very Martin domain core to me). Also fog. And the people stuff reminds me of Mag 48 Lost in a Crowd, the otherness you feel, the loneliness because of it. Maybe this is a cannibalism and animal nature as a metaphor for the ✨horrors of other people✨. That kinda feels like a stretch but it makes sense in my head.

Ahhhh, the call of the void, the fear of uselessness to things that don’t even know you exist. The void is obvious Vast coded, especially with the oblivion comment (imo). I don’t have much to say that I’m not gonna say next but this needed its own section bc the void.

My favorite theory about wtf is happening in this episode that I made the fuck up right here right now. At multiple points in this statement does ‘Hungry’ and ‘Hunger’ come up, specifically when talking about your reaction to a deficit in something. This could also be cannibalism coded, being so desperate for someone, anyone, that they eat the only ones around. Which brings me to the second half, the nothingness. This is mixed with basically all the Lonely and Vast feelings of this statement, a lack of something, be it people, color, etc. This could maybe be something that is trying to be more like sensory deprivation, the more deprived you are the more your brain tries to make things to be less deprived, and the more empty you feel because of it. This episode kinda gives me overwhelming feels too? Like when everything is too much and too little at the same time? Overstimulation and understimulation mixing to make the worst thing in the world. Idk

[radiostatik]

Would you consider yourself more of a Hazbin Hotel or a Helluva Boss fan, or are you into the entire Helluvaverse fandom as a whole?? I've known some folks who are fans and care more about Helluva than Hazbin and I've met others who care and love Hazbin more than Helluva, I'm someone who falls into the second category and even when I was a HB fan, I've honestly always loved Hazbin and it's characters more, IMO. I also wanted to ask if you have any concerns and worries for HH since it's not that far from release and we only have a couple of months, HB S2 hasn't been the best and some have expressed their concerns for HH as HB hasn't been the best honestly, I honestly wanted to know your thoughts if you don't mind responding and answering, it's up to you! 💗

I don't mind answering questions at all!

When Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss both released their pilots these were my first thoughts

Hazbin Hotel: I was awestruck by the pretty and unique art style and animation, I thought the jokes were pretty funny, and it seemed to have a lot of heart. I loved Charlie, she makes a perfect protagonist for taking place in hell. She's clever, optimistic, good hearted, but not afraid to throw a punch.

Sir Pentious was so silly, and had such a fun, hilarious dynamic with Angel Dust.

Alastor drew me in with his goofy, non chalant subtle sadistic personality, along with his old times radio voice that sounds straight outta the 30's.

I enjoyed the pilot and had a lot of hope that it would be a good series. An adult comedy with an appealing art style, an lots of heart is hard to find.

Now let's talk about Helluva Boss

I decided to check out the pilot, but it's whole existence weirded me out. I was like, "Why are you making a pilot for another show right after just making one? Why not just make episode 2? Isn't it a bit early to be making a spin off of a show that has barley started? The view count also said a lot, with Hazbin Hotel Pilot having almost double the views of the Helluva Boss Pilot. And I can see why.

The characters... aren't all that likable. They are all just mean to each other. I know Millie loves Moxxie, she gaslights him when he's rightfully upset.

There's a noticeable difference between the main couple in Hazbin (Chaggie), and the main couple in Helluva (M&M):

For example

Chaggie:

Vaggie: *Is rightfully upset at Angel, but is getting a little too worked up*

Charlie: *Agrees with her and tells Angel what he did was not cool, tell Vaggie to try to relax, things will be okay.*

Meanwhile M&M:

Moxxie: *Is rightfully upset at Blitz for stalking and filming him and Millie , but is maybe getting a little too worked up*

Millie: "It's not that big a deal" "Calm down, you're gonna have another panic attack"

👁👄👁 Millie wtf. How do you not validate your husband's concerns and condem Blitzo's action.

The whole Helluva Boss Pilot has terrible pacing. We have a flashback within a flashback, the first few times seeing it I was so confused. When Loona says "Come on, you know why", I expected the next flashback to explain the "Moxxie is fat" joke. But there's no explanation. Just another scene of Loona being mean I guess?

The next scene is of Loona telling Blitz he has a phone call. These flashbacks are supposed to show us how mean Loona is. But the Stolas phone call... doesn't show that. It just shows how Blitz has another problem because this one night stand is acting really clingy. We then get the flashback, within the flashback, of Blitz stealing the book.

Blitz says the line "If I hadn't slept with that privileged asshole, non of us would have access to the living world." Nothing wrong with this line, but the way it's delivered makes it seem like having access to the living world is a bad thing?? Maybe the line would make more sense if he said "Sleeping with that privileged asshole is the ONLY reason we have access to the living world." It still works even with Moxxie saying "You what?😶"

There are a few funny lines in the HB Pilot, but a lot more gore. The only "gore" in Hazbin are egg yokes, and some blood from an insect Katy kills with her pen.

The gore in Helluva is amped up and a bit disturbing. A child is shot, then mutilated. That scene made me sick to me stomach.

The kid wasn't even that mean. He said to Moxxie "If I wanted to hear from a spineless jackals, I'd Rip out your spine." Implying that Moxxie DOES have a spine.

Speaking of the kid, how did he enter hell without turning into a demon? How are they able to shoot him without him responding back into Hell? Why did I.M.P. even take him with them? Give him back to his mom or just leave him where you found him! It's weird to think they cared enough to take him with them, yet they'd kill him despite not getting any money for it.

I'd love to get into the other Helluva episodes, but maybe if I get another ask about it.

There are some thing I like about Helluva, but a lot of things I dislike. So, yeah I'm more of a Hazbin fan, but I still somewhat enjoy Helluva and look forward to new episodes coming out. (No matter how disappointing some of them have been)

Do I have any fears about Hazbin Hotel coming out?

I'm glad it's finally coming out, but I'll be honest, I wish it were under better circumstances. This is not the way I wanted it to happen. The entire voice cast has been replaced, the animation style has changed, the main characters all received major downgrades with their redesigns, and major characters that were part of the original lineup (Baxter, Mimzy, + Crymini) all appear to have been dropped from the series. So much for female focused.

I'm still excited for it tho because it will still have Charlie and Vaggie, and we will hopefully get to see more concrete proof that they are a couple within the series.

I'm hoping the new voice actors will do the characters justice, but I'm still not over how Viv screwed the pilot cast over in the way that she did.

[lili-cat]

Canon vs non-canon in my writing

Dear readers of my stories: I. Am. Not. An. Expert. On. Canon.

A lot of my knowledge on the au characters and the image that has stuck with me comes from other fics and fanart. This was the biggest reason why I was hesitant to continue woyb, I was terrified of taking on four characters of which only one I was actually comfortable writing at the time.

For Dust, I am not deliberately straying from canon, but not trying my best to match it either. There's this version of him in my head that makes perfect sense to me and that's what I'm going with.

Nightmare literally exists just to make this sequel possible. I'm useless at his lore, and I have no problem admitting that.

Killer is a weird one. There's some canon stuff I know and utilize, some stuff I kinda don't get and deliberately don't go for, and some stuff I've completely came up with myself. His character took the longest to grow on me, and only when writing him the way I do, I finally "get it". So I'm sticking with that.

And yes, Horror. I know, he's pretty far from canon. Fics have totally shaped his character for me, and that has become the Horror I like. Past of cannibalism (maybe?), sweet foodie giant with memory and speech issues, can get pretty feral if he isn't in touch with reality. But this literally comes up in the third chapter of htyw so I'm guessing that people either roll with it or stop reading there.

Sure, I could do more research on canon, or I could just continue my story and do wtf ever I want. Both are valid options.

Also, ALWAYS feel free to tell me more about these characters. Tell me what you like about canon. Tell me about your headcanons. Anything. I'll eat it all up. Every little detail shapes up my version of them.

[jalebi-weds-bluetooth]

IPKKND thought i would love your take on:

I think when it comes to Shyam's revelation scene the only disappointment i felt was in Arnav's reaction which we can chalk upto Barun's unavailability but its honestly not surprising that other members didnt respond very strongly. We have a bias as viewers since we are witness to everything so we are aggressively countering Shyam's arguments from our screen. But for everyone else its a massive shock and they dont wanna jump the gun about a decision which will possibly break the family. Even with Khushi, she was a victim and its very unfair for us to expect her to counter this logically like a debate. This took a heavy emotional toll on her which is why its understandable why she is mumbling even if she is in the right. Same with her confrontation scene with Arnav. For Khushi, these moments are too overwhelming to be able to answer the questions thrown at her with logical. Maybe once her emotions are settled down a bit but in the moment i totally understand it and i dont feel its OOC like many claim. I would've loved to see her actually sit through it and talk it out with someone who has the emotional bandwidth to help her or atleast listen to her. But yeah I don't understand when people expect her to be bold and bindass when she is confronting (kind of) her abuser.

Hi Anon,

This is an absolutely valid point. You see my issue with these scenes is actually not the characters but the INTENT of these scenes and the tightness of the writing and how well it delivers a payoff.

As you’ve aptly put out - expecting rationality from Khushi from either situations is unfair cause she’s in deep stress and there’s a HUGE shock for most characters when they come to hear what Shyam and Khushi have to say.

But the INTENT is what ruins both of these scenes.

During the final showdown between Arnav and Khushi on the terrace - the very fact that Khushi’s attempt to unalive herself is treated with comedy is disgusting and disparaging.

Out of everything that could’ve been a trigger for Khushi to demand the truth, for her to go with Arnav has married her to get rid of his fault on his astronomical birth chart is so stupid. The makers are going “lol, Khushi so crazy she can think anything!”

The show keeps branding Khushi as “crazy”, which, to be honest, after a point is offensive because Khushi’s inability to rationalize is a serious problem if it’s leading to her justification on unaliving herself over things that don’t exist at all.

She needs help, serious help.

It’s not even played for dark humour. Rather slapstick humor.

And when I talk about her and Arnav’s conversation - the dialogues aren’t veered towards an angst or angry conversation! In fact a few things are kept in mind for their showdown.

1. Arnav needs to insult Khushi’s character as much as possible (right after she tried to unalive herself for his happiness - WTF?)

2. Khushi has to be fulfill the necessity of a good bahu. That is, her motivation to hide Shyam’s truth is never the honest threat it posed to Payal’s impending marriage. Rather Khushi is such a nice bahu that she wants to preserve Anjali’s ideals of marriage and happiness. This is very very ITV sanskaar coded because Shyam has harassed Khushi at multiple points by this time and it’s never shown that she’s bound to preserve Anjali’s marriage by no choice but that she truly believes Anjali should be kept happy (because Arnav won’t be able to take the truth?) and that Khushi is perfectly fine with Anjali staying married with a harasser.

3. No acknowledgement of Khushi being harassed and absolutely nothing to show Khushi being at fault and nothing to indicate to Arnav he might be mistaken. This is critical. The show keeps wanting to maintain that Arnav’s terrible opinion of Khushi is unchanged! Arnav’s PTSD is conveniently forgotten (which they remember every other time) and Khushi will absolutely not clear anything that can give Arnav another perspective. The show, despite showing harassment multiple times, sidesteps from acknowledging Khushi is being harassed. So Khushi obviously has no “idea” of the terrace. And it’s not written that she’s so traumatized she has suppressed it.

4. Khushi needs to prove herself to Arnav. Arnav has emotionally and verbally abused Khushi multiple times in this marriage and they had to ensure that this is all about Khushi proving her character to a man who never believed she had one. It’s terrible because Khushi needs to prove that she’s not having a relationship with the man who has been sexually harassing her. No justification is expected from Shyam and he’s pretty much Scot free for sexually harassing Khushi.

This showdown was everything. We needed a PAYOFF. A payoff for why Arnav was quiet for three months. A payoff for the whole misunderstanding.

You realize this would’ve been perfectly angsty if Arnav came to the conclusion that Khushi ultimately chose to condemn Anjali in a terrible marriage because it would protect Payal’s marriage. This was a valid reason to be upset on Khushi that is non sexist.

And Arnav makes far more sense in these episodes than Khushi does. And this is important because for the show Arnav has to maintain his misunderstanding of Khushi.

Khushi dissociates in traumatic situations - again this is not addressed and this is a grave situation.

And now coming to the Shyam revelation scene. I feel this was a perfect situation to give the other characters dialogues to explain their utter confusion.

Because the intent of this episode was to show “oh Arnav believes her over everything” and the whole family needs to have doubts over Khushi’s character and I was just personally DONE with a female lead’s character come up in question multiple times.

And the intent is to make Arnav feel heroic for slapping Shyam.

That’s why it makes no sense why Khushi admits she said she hated Arnav and wanted his property to lure Shyam out. What is the intent of this?

To show Arnav still believes her and he’s hero?

Shyam had the best dialogues and Arnav had the least impactful. They needed to give Arnav dialogues (everyone else could have had more valid follow up questions). Arnav’s dialogue is so bleh and the things is Arnav KNOWS.

He isn’t blindly choosing Khushi - he just saw Shyam switch narratives because Shyam himself told Arnav that HE is obsessed with Khushi and he’ll do anything to get Khushi back!!

And it’s again to really horn in that “oh Arnav has defected towards his wife who we can’t quite trust,”

So you see these cause an issues.

It’s not a payoff to Arnav having misunderstood her so grossly. They tried to do it but it came out flat as best barring Shyam - man what amazing dialogues and it’s so in character because he IS a lawyer.

And like what was with NK behaving like as if he was going to flip on Khushi?

See moments like these heighten my issue with these scenes. Neither gives a payoff to the misunderstanding of the terrace night.

So these are my point of views.

Thank you and take care,

- JWB

[that-golden-lyre]

Ohohohohohohohoho

HOW DARE-

How DARE you @flowerflamestars

The way I SPED through and CRIED. I am unwell. I am UNWELL. Wtf is this!!!! ❤️😭❤️

Ok why don’t we just stop making me re-live my Francesca era please and thank you. Because is he wrong??? NO.

Sexy murder

I cannot express to you how many times I SCREAMED reading this-

But no really Elle is SO valid for that because SAME babe 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Literal “whoop”-ing noises made. 👏🏾

The fact that Star kissed her? I’m NOT over iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Also, not you making Jason Todd into the most green flag or ever green flag amongst all of the green flags??? (Am I ignoring the murder? Yes. I have selective sight, thank you very much 😌). But also, if a man came to find me, offered me a hair tie and then proceeded to pour his heart out to me I would simple cease to exist. So understood 🫡.

I feel like this is the reverse of the “But did you die” joke that Jason constantly spins and @flowerflamestars it was perfect. I’m literally giggling a kicking my feet. I’m sitting here in a puddle of my flimsy little emotions because they’re both MAGIC and magic is blood and love and pain and I’m UNWELL. How could you do this to me @flowerflamestars 🙃🖕🏾.

(Now off I go break my own heart again and read your Padme and Maul fic AGAIN because I have ZERO self preservation skills 💋.)