#aptobinary

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Cisbinary Flag

Cisbinary: a conformant term describing someone who is cis* (cisgender/cissex/cisvestic/cismodal) experiencing a binary gender (aptobinary/xorgender).

Inclusive of cisqueer (neocis, cis femache), neobinary (bonusbinary, ambinary/mesobinary, yesbinary), and AGAB nonconforming (ANC) people (plus more).

Counterpart: transbinary.

[soong-type-notinuse]

aptobinary

i already kinda coined this term, but someone tried falsely explaining my own term to me so i'm gonna make an official coining post to clear up any misunderstandings.

in short, aptobinary describes anyone who fits the gender binary. this is about gender itself, as in the identity, not gender presentation.

people who would be considered aptobinary:

people who exclusively, at all times and wholly identify as women, girls or female, with their female identity being feminine in nature

people who exclusively, at all times and wholly identity as men, boys or male, with their male identity being masculine in nature

people who would not be considered aptobinary:

genderless, agender and similar people

aphorians and other people who's genders are removed from maleness and femaleness

people with genders that are in between male and female

xenogender and kenochoric people

multigender, genderfluid, demigender and similar people, even if they consider themselves to be binary due to being male and/or female

men whose male identity is feminine, androgynous, outherine, xenine or anything else other than masculine

women whose female identity is masculine, androgynous, outherine, xenine or anything else other than feminine

the last two refer to identities such as cettreur or cettrix, which describe an outherine manhood or an outherine womanhood, this is again about identity, and not about gender presentation.

one could also say that aptobinary people are people who are always, fully and exclusively either mingender men/boys or fingender women/girls.

this term is important to refer to people who have the privilege to not experience structural exorsexism, as opposed to nonbinary, genderqueer, elsegender and other people who don't fit the gender binary, in the linked post at the start of this post i already went over why other terms do not work.

[rjalker]

"There is no such thing as binary privilege!"

Okay so tell me, when was the last time any big-name video game was released where you have the option of choosing to play as a man, woman, or nonbinary character?

Where are all the nonbinary action heroes, romance protagonists, ect?

Where are all the nonbinary characters in popular, mainstream media? Where is this supposed equality between men, women, and nonbinary people that I'm apparently missing?

Where are my options in the brand new $60 video games to play as a nonbinary character? Where are my options to pick from a list of pronouns rather than being forced to use she/her or he/him depending on whether I choose a female character or a male character?

Why can't I play as a nonbinary character in Skyrim without mods that are only available on computer, and only available at all because nonbinary people make them for other nonbinary poeple?

Where are all the nonbinary NPCS who play major parts in main quests that you are guarenteed to meet when you play the game?

If there's no such thing as specific disadvantages that nonbinary people face, then why can't I play as a canonically nonbinary character in any video game I want? Why can't I pick up literally any video game and at least see nonbinary characters even if I can't play one myself?

Binary people at least /probably/ get the opportunity to play a character who is the same gender and is refered to by the same pronouns they do. For nonbinary people it's pretty much literally impossible, especially if you solely use neopronouns.

Even with mods for Skyrim that let you pick or even alternate your pronouns, the options are still limited to he/him, she/her, and they/them, and that's it. And that's something the modder built by themselves for free.

There's no reason a company couldn't fairly pay its employees to incorporate more pronouns or better yet custom pronouns into their games. But it doesn't happen.

Not even The Elder Scrolls Online, which has plenty of gay, lesbian, and mspec characters, and now literally has the goddess of love say aspec rights, there's only one canonically trans character that I know of so far, and no nonbinary characters that aren't literally just from species that reproduce asexually. And I wouldn't exactly call any of the Sload "characters" in the first place, considering all the ones I've met literally just exist to say evil things and then be killed by you. (Sarcasm: Because bioessentialism, yay! /sarcasm)

I just literally do not understand how anyone can say that nonbinary people face no specific forms of discrimination when, even looking past Literally Everything Else including things that are literally life threatening, we can't even do something as simple as pick up a video game and play as a character like ourselves unless we literally just make up shit about them and ignore everything the game actually has to say.

If I want to play a video game, I have no choice but to be misgendered, whether I play as a man or as a woman. That is not a problem binary people face, cis or trans.

The only way you can think nonbinary people face no specific forms of discrimination is if you don't listen to nonbinary people when we tell you what our struggles are, even the most basic, "harmless" ones like the inability to play as a nonbinary character in a roleplaying video game.

Edit: Binary people can 100% reblog this, thank you for caring enough to listen and learn!

[our-outherly-experience]

Continuing with the explanation of the different outherine qualities, in this second part I'll talk about those qualities that could be considered outherine in some circumstances, but sometimes are considered to be something apart.

Ainulinity

[PT: ainulinity]

Ainulinity is an aporine masculinity. An abinary quality that shares characteristic with masculinity while having no connection to aptobinary and midbinary ideas of gender.

Because it's aporine, ainulinity can could be:

A neutrality that can can be comparable to masculinity.

A brand new quality that can be comparable to masculinity.

A mix of both things above.

It's in the two last case that Ainulinity can be considered and is outherine.

Ainuline genders:

Herrlein

I also experience viresque (a term I coined. A kind of abinary proxvirhood) and proxvir as ainuline genders. But that's just my interiorisation and usage of those genders, and not something those two genders inherently are.

Aineminity

[PT: aineminity]

Aineminity is an aporine femininity. An abinary quality that shares characteristic with femininity while having no connection to aptobinary and midbinary ideas of gender.

Just like with its "masculine" counterpart, the abinary aspec of aineminity can be:

solely neutral

Solely a brand-new quality

A mix of both things

And just like ainulinity, it's only outherine in the last two cases.

Madchen (herrlein counterpart) hasn't been defined as ainemine the way herrlein is ainuline, but it could be internalised as such.

Same goes with lieresque and juxera, counterparts of viresque and proxvir respectively.

Gender ambiguity / ambiguinity

[PT: gender ambiguity / ambiguinity]

Gender ambiguity as has been signified in this post, is defined as:

"Having a gender expression which draws on neither femininity, nor masculinity, and exists independently of all other forms of expression as well"

(...)

"If androgyny is a mixture of masculinity and femininity, then ambiguity is entirely opposed to the two."

In this last sense, gender ambiguity is similar to altraeninity, in that both qualities exist outside the fem-to-masc continuum, while being in "opposition" or "the counterpart" to both.

It's in this similarity with altraeninity that I consider gender ambiguity to be outherine.

But ambiguity has another meaning: something that has multiple interpretations. Following this meaning, ambiguity is:

Paradoxical

In between identities

Obscure

Ambivalent

None of these characteristics make a gender quality that could be considered inherently outherine.

Some ambiguous/ambiguine genders:

Ambigue

Ambinique

Ambesque (coined by me)

Ambiguine

Ambix

Ineffalinity

[PT: ineffalinity]

With this last one quality we find ourselves in some kind of paradox.

Ineffalinity is defined as: "the quality of a gender that cannot be categorized or defies all forms of classification. No currently existing label or category fits and any attempt to label or classify an ineffaline gender will fail or be rejected. An ineffaline gender is adamantly not masculine, feminine, androgynous, neutral, outherine, xenine, or any other existing gender quality, and it is not in between or related to any existing gender quality. It is also not necessarily genderless. (...) An ineffaline person can be strongly gendered, and fully confident in their gender, but all labels or descriptions that exist do not seem to fit."

And now you're thinking "well, it's says it's not outherine", and you'd be right. The problem here is that in this definition outherine's been used as an specific gender quality.

But outherinity isn't an specific gender quality, at least not the way femininity, masculinity, androgyny, neutrality, etc are. It's a category for gender qualities that cannot be described as fem, masc, andro/angi, neu, epicene, etc, while still being neither xenine nor genderless.

Potentially the number of gender qualities that can be considered outherine is infinite and there are (potentially) outherine qualities we aren't aware of/haven't coined yet.

This fits ineffaline, even if it has no connection to other genders and qualities that are commonly associated with outherinity, and so we could consider it to be somehow outherine.

But, if the rejection of pre-existing terms that characterises ineffalinity is as infinite as outherinity, then it cannot be say to be fully outherine, and could be classified as a quality or characteristic of qualities that goes in parallel to the different outherinities.

How an ineffaline person defines it, depends on the person themselves. It's not my place nor my intention to force them to consider themselves outherine.

What I do believe is that, regardless of how they consider their gender quality in regard of the outherine gender quality umbrella, outherine people (of any kind) and ineffaline people have a lot of experiences in common, and ineffaline people are more than welcome to share their experiences here*. And so are people of all the "not inherently outherine" qualities mentioned here or any other quality that could be, but not necessarily is, outherine that I haven't mention here.

Remember, this blog uses "outherly" because it includes both outherine and outheric (outher-aligned) people. So, if you think your gender, expression, etc is "not technically outherine, but quite" or that it shares similarities with those qualities deemed as outherine, this space is open for you to ask questions and tell your experiences.

Part one

[neopronouns]

flag id: a flag with 5 vertical stripes, with the third being twice the size of the rest. they are copper brown, golden yellow, white, green, and dark green. in the center of the flag, not quite as wide as the middle stripe, is a dark grey minus sign. end id.

banner id: a 1600x200 teal banner with the words ‘please read my dni before interacting. those on my / dni may still use my terms, so do not recoin them.’ in large white text in the center. the text takes up two lines, split at the slash. end id.

antiaptobinary: a gender defined as being the opposite of aptobinary

[pt: antiaptobinary: a gender defined as being the opposite of aptobinary. end pt]

an antigender of aptobinary as a base for a request! it uses the same format as other antigender flags (antigirl, antiboy, antienby) and the stripes are adjusted from a color-inverted aptobinary flag.

tags: @radiomogai | dni link

[your-bigender-big-brother]

can you do a midbinarine/midbinarish and a binarine/binarish (or aptobinarine/aptobinarish) flags? similar to abinarine/abinarish, but with midbinary and binary/aptobinary. it would be the counterpart to extrine I guess

Here are two ideas I had, anon!

Some gender quality flags, including abinarine, use the five-stripe vertical format. Others use a nice gradient with five or six stripes. I thought it'd be nice to have both options. I hope you like them! 💙💚

If you enjoy my content, please feel free to tip me here! It would help me out a lot!

[significantouther]

With the exception of some labels, most mspec labels do not inherently exclude or include any gender. You don't need to be attracted to both binary genders to be bi or ply. Nonbinary genders are their own genders and count separatedly. And even labels like trixen or toren that inherently exclude aptobinary men or women, may not exclude viabinary and ambibinary men and/or women, and do not necessarily inherently include every other type of nonbinary gender.

A person can be trixen and be:

1) Attracted to aptobinary women and every nonbinary gender, including viabinary and ideobinary men.

2) Atrracted to aptobinary women and every nonbinary gender, except those in the miagender spectrum.

3) Attracted to aptobinary women, genders on the fiagender spectrum, and some other group of nonbinary genders.

It's not necessarily "every gender but aptobinary men", it's "two or more genders, aptobinary women + at least one nonbinary gender, and never aptobinary men"

As a cetero, I'm not attracted to intrine genders, but other cetero people may be attracted to:

1) All nonbinary people;

2) Only to abinary or only to midbinary people;

3) To all nonbinary people, except those who identify as man/guy/boy and/or woman/girl;

4) Only to those who have an strong sense of gender;

5) Only to nonbinary sociegenders;

6) Only to xenogender, kenochoric, etc genders;

7) And many other ways.

If you see someone identifying as bi lesbian or bi veldian and think they are attracted to both binary genders, because in your mind there's no other way to be bi.

Congratulations! You're a bimiser and and exorsexist. You won a get better soon, bitch.

P.S: "gay" is an umbrella term. Not every mspec gay is an mspec veldian/turian.

[redtail-lol]

Do you know of any terms that means attraction to women and Non-binary people without it being exclusive?

Okay lemme sift thru the hoard

1. Enbian sapphic (or enviolet)

2. Enstellic (nonexclusive attraction to nb) and Trixstellic (nonexclusive attraction to women) or Femaric and Enboric

3. Agatic (WLW and WLNB)

4. Brownitian or Ammolic (NBLW and NBLNB)

5. Begonia (anyone who isn't a monogender aptobinary man attracted to women and nb people)

6. QLW enbian

[losergendered]

hiii what binary and abinary flags do you use?

the one on the left is the binary/aptobinary flag i use, and the one on the right is the abinary one!

[imoga-pride]

is there a label like gai but for anonbinary people? or is it possible to be gai and anonbinary?

there's nogarian and cypraette; I believe it's possible. likely, even aptobinary people can feel their attraction is non-binary for certain gender. check gae

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Cfiagender Pride Flag

Cfiaspec/cfia (cfiagender spectrum)/cfiaty/cfia or cisfiaspec/cisfiaty (cisfiagender/fiacis/fiacisgender): umbrella term for anyone on the "cis female" side of the viabinary-to-aptobinary spectrum.

Similar to cisera (cisgenderera/cisgendera/cisgendrera), cfeingender (cisfeingender)/CFEIN/cisfein and cfingender (CFIN) or cisfideospec/cfideospec. However, this flag includes anyone who fits both spectrums: cis* (ciaspec) and woman/female/girl/gal (fiaspec or wifgender), regardless of birth assignment (assigned gender/sex).

[soong-type-notinuse]

not all aptobinary/adjacent trans people or whatever but why is there this recurring phenomenon that when certain people identify as genderqueer/nonbinary they make very cool and normal content but then they come out as aptobinary trans/adjacent and suddenly they become a bigot? i've seen this shit happen time and time again, for years, where people as soon as they realise they're actually a trans man/woman, they suddenly become exorsexist, throw genderqueer people under the bus and are often also shitty in other ways.

contrapoints is a prime example of this.

but also so many random people on social media who during their genderqueer time are well spoken about important things and then it's like a switch flips and they're like "whoops, i'm a man/woman now, time for ~accidental~ ableism/racism".

not saying genderqueer/nonbinary people aren't exorsexist, racist, ableist etc. they are, we are. it's just a weird mask off phenomenon i guess.

[isobug]

Pls do a intersex aptobinary flag

Done here !! Enjoy anon

[obnebulant-mogai]

how does neobinary work? is this similar to nymbinary?

Hi! The definition of Neobinary (pasted from this post) is as follows:

Neobinary is described as “A gender experience that exists to reshape and redefine the gender binary. An individual who is neobinary or who considers emself to have a neobinary experience may partially or mostly relate to the gender binary but can decide that their connection to the binary is outside of conventional standards of gender categorization. This is genderqueerness and genderfuckery specifically within the scope of the gender binary.”

The definition of Nymbinary (pasted from this post) is as follows:

"Nymbinary (nymby) or abinby (abinbinary): a binary aphorian, a person who identifies as a binary in a way removed entirely from the gender binary system. It is a type of binariness that is abinary in nature (ABIN), and therefore lacks ties to the gender-binary, including a relationship to aptobinary genderedness (aptobinariness/aptobinaryness) or ambinariness/ambinaryness, (fe)maleness, (wo)manhood, boyhood/girlhood/birlhood, (fe)male-alignment, binary masculinity/femininity, and most other widespread connotations of binary-ness. Nymbinaries (nymbies) may even see their binaryhood as anonbinary or something else entirely.

Could be an umbrella for nymboy and nymgirl."

This is the first time I've heard of nymbinary, so take this with a grain of salt, but my understanding is that neobinary is a gender experience that takes the traditional gender binary (male and female) and remains connected to it, but is also fundamentally different in some way, while nymbinary is a gender that is part of a binary, but not the traditional one.

If you are coming from my thresiboy and thresigirl coining post, the definition for neoboy/neogirl is as follows:

Neoboy/neogirl is a gender with a connection to masculinity, but in a way that's largely different from how most boys/men are connected to masculinity. Neoboy/neogirl is a non-binary identity that is mostly separate from being male/female, though it can be described as a gender that is masculine/feminine-aligned, neutral-aligned, min/fingender, and/or mia/fiaspec.

Individuals who identify with neoboy/neogirl may identify with the term because:

They feel like a "new" kind or type of boy/man. They feel like they're fe/male and connected to femininity/masculinity (partially or entirely) but in a "different" way. They feel like a boy, but outside of the gender binary. Individuals who identify with neoboy/girl will also generally feel neutral-aligned in some way or in some extent as well as being masculine/feminine-aligned but this isn't always the case.

[neopronouns]

can you help explain midtrinary to me? with some more specific examples. I'm having trouble understanding the difference between midtrinary and trinary.

maybe some help with binary and midbinary too? I guess maybe midbinary would overlap/be included under binary, but midbinary is specifically for nonbinary genders related to male/female, so it wouldn't include just binary male and female.

i'll start with midbinary, since it's a bit simpler, so let's define it first:

midbinary: an umbrella term for nonbinary genders that are in some way associated with one or both of the binary genders

this post has a useful phrase in it: 'existing within the context of the gender binary but not strictly one or the other'. this makes it seem to me that the 'binary genders' in that definition i listed would probably be better described by another term:

aptobinary: a gender that is exclusively and entirely female and fingender or male and mingender at all times

compare this to the common definition of nonbinary, which refers to any gender that is not exclusively and entirely one binary gender at all times.

midbinary, then, refers to non-aptobinary binary gender experiences. these experiences are binary, but they're also nonbinary (and may, depending on the person, be felt as neither binary nor nonbinary) making midbinary the sort of center of a binary-nonbinary venn diagram.

now let's define midtrinary:

midtrinary: an umbrella term for nontrinary genders that are in some way associated with one or more of the trinary genders

we also have to add in the third gender of the trinary — this can vary if you're in a culture with a recognized third gender, but for this, we'll go with the third gender being entirely neutral. and like before, the 'trinary genders' in the above definition is probably better described by:

aptotrinary: a gender that is exclusively and entirely female and fingender, male and mingender, or neutral and ningender at all times

so midtrinary would describe non-aptotrinary trinary gender experiences, which are trinary, but also nontrinary (and, again, may be felt as neither trinary nor nontrinary to the person), thus ending up in the center of a trinary-nontrinary venn diagram.

[your-bigender-big-brother]

can I get a midbinaryn't flag? it includes abinary and aptobinary identities together with some anonbinary experiences

Here are two different versions, similar to the flags I made for midbinarine. What do you think? - 💙💚