#the syscourse code

[saltedcavessys]

Our syscourse code!

Syscourse code link

Question 1: Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

👎(N) - No

Question 2: Opinions on tulpas?

💚(TCA) - I think it is cultural appropriation and am against it

Question 3: Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma?

📗(MTR) - I think a lot of them don't

Question 4: Opinions on shared spaces?

🔻(ASP) - I am against it

Question 5: Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX?

🟠(TXM) - In some cases

Question 6: Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma?

🌑(DTNO) - No

Question 7: Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)?

🟦(CNNU) - Nuanced opinion / other : If they understand they are not part of that culture and do not speak for people who are bodily part of that culture (and understand the significance of the name), they should be allowed to use the name.

Question 8: Opinion on researched self diagnosis?

🌳(SDXI) - If the person has done extensive research it's okay

Question 9: Sysmed as a term?

🌦(SMA) - Against it

Question 10: Traumascum as a term?

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

Question 11: Endogenic systems using the term 'system'?

🐲 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Question 12: Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'?

🐝 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Question 13: Xeno-origins?

💭(IDW) I don't know what the term means

So yeah! If you want to block us or any of our sideblogs after this then go ahead, just don’t make this a huge thing plspls :3

[cambriancrew]

I think part of our issue with syscoursing - like the thing that makes it unhealthy for us at times and makes us dig in when we shouldn't and what makes us keep going past the point where it's harmful for the people we're arguing against...

We have a very positive view of arguing. For us, arguing is inherently a neutral thing, leaning towards positive. You can argue without fighting. Fighting is when arguing becomes dirty - when you start attacking each other instead of the topic. We argue with each other regularly. The distinction between a disagreement and an argument for us is that a disagreement is a matter of opinions that aren't strongly held and ultimately are subjective. Arguments are over things you want to prove objectively true or false, or right or wrong, and/or things you're committed to believing one way or another. For us, if a stance or fact or belief can't stand up to criticism and debate, it's not worth holding or believing in. Also we enjoy the process.

But for other people, it's not like that, and can easily get into mud slinging territory, and even a far way away from that territory can feel like a personal attack.

Which isn't to say that we never feel like calling people idiots, though we mostly only do that with people showing intentional, willful ignorance. Like trying to claim that a source says something it absolutely doesn't say anything remotely close to, proving they didn't look at the source at all. Like no matter what your stance is that's just plain stupid behavior. It's not kind though, and so we're going to be consciously choosing not to do that from here on out. Which means, for starters, we're no longer going to be using our Twitterpated idiots tag for posting about arguments had on Twitter. Gonna take some time to think about what we'll use from here on out.

We very rarely fight. Our last actual fight was when we were married and our ex was trying to pressure us into getting rid of our Crew. Varyn was willing to dissipate, but others, led by Aery, were willing to fight tooth and nail to stay, and some unkind words, to put it mildly, were said between Varyn and Aery and the others.

Idk where I'm going with this.

But yeah. We're going to start trying to be more proactively kind and considerate in syscourse. Because it's not right for us to cause harm by way of the fact that we view arguments as not harmful - what's not harmful to us, may be to others, and we need to be consciously aware of that.

Anyone we've ever harmed through syscourse, through arguing past the point of causing harm, past the point where it diverges from arguing into fighting and being unkind, we're sorry. We're going to try and do better.

One of our core principles in our Code of Conduct is Do No Harm (as much as is humanly possible) and in 2025 we're going to focus harder on living that out. (And our other two Code of Conduct principles, Take Responsibility, and Encourage Growth in Self and Others, which both tie into this.)

We're going to do our best. And we would encourage other syscoursers to do the same.

[sophieinwonderland]

I’m curious what your thoughts on the Hays code are, with the recent discussion of Split being ‘bad rep but at least it’s something.’ /gen

Oof!

A big part of the theory here is that even bad representation will lead to better representation in the future. Bad rep creates a conversation. That conversation leads to people wanting to create better representation.

What the Hays code did was essentially ban any positive representation. There couldn't be any improvements. There couldn't be any positive portrayal of LGBTQ rep at all. Even if you had a young gay artist in the industry, even if you had executives who would have been willing to sign off on it... they still couldn't create positive representations to counter the negative ones.

It's really a completely different world when the good reps aren't allowed at all.

As for the question of whether bad representation is better than no representation in that case... I don't know. I wonder what it would be like being a queer youth isolated in the 50s. Today, queer people can easily connect with other queer people through the internet. But back then, it must have been incredibly isolating.

So is being able to see other people like you on the TV worth it to let you know that you aren't alone in the world, even if those people are only able to be portrayed as the villains?

Would the Hays Code have been less harmful if it just banned all LGBTQ representation?

I don't know. 🤷‍♀️

[cafedragons]

Syscourse Code!

Syscourse code Carrd

1. Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

👍(Y)- Yes

2. Opinion on tulpas?

💛 (TC) - I think it is cultural appropriation, and other terms are better

3. Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma?

📘(NETR) - People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

4. Opinion on shared spaces?

🔸(NSP) - Shared spaces are good but there should also be specific spaces for disordered, traumagenic, endogenic, etc spaces.

5. Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX?

🔵(TXA) - No, and I'm against transplural

6. Do you think you can have DID/OSDD without trauma?

🌘(DTO) - No, but a DID/OSDD/UDD system can form endogenic headmates.

7. Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)?

🟨(CNP) - If they're given permission by a member of that culture

8. Opinion on researched self diagnosis?

🌲(SDXY) - Supportive

9. Sysmed as a term?

🗯(IDN) I do not want to have an opinion on this / do not have an opinion.

10. Traumascum as a term?

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

11. Endogenic systems using the term 'system'?

🐊(ESY) - Supportive

12. Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'?

🐜 (EAN) - Neutral

13. Xeno-origins?

🐬(XEN) - I don't understand their purpose

[amity-moonrise]

Our syscourse code :p (i dont think we made one yet so here)

Please note: We dont typically engage in syscourse in the first place but we are putting this out here so ppl know what our stances are on things more clearly.

Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

✊(M) - if/when i see credible proof

Opinion on tulpas

💙(TA) - Against

Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📗(MTR) - I think a lot of them don't

Opinion on shared spaces

🔻(ASP) - I am against it

Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🔇(ONA) I have an opinion but would prefer not to state it

Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌑(DTNO) - No

Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟦(CNNU) - Nuanced opinion / other

As long as the name itself is one that isn’t a culturally sacred name or a religious sacred name then I think for the most part it’s okay, it’s better to ask someone from that culture though. If you’re unsure of a name, do your research or find alternatives. Better to be safe than sorry.

Unrelated but I also think that people should just mind their own business about someones name unless they’re very clearly appropriating it (ie, using a cultural name on an OC and making fun of said name, our ex did that once 💀)

Before you come after us for this, yes, we are quite literally a POC system. And we know what its like to see our culture and our names being appropriated and made fun of. So no it’s not like we don’t know anything.

Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌳(SDXI) - If the person has done extensive research it's okay

Sysmed as a term

🌦(SMA) - Against it

Traumascum as a term

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🐲 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐝 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Xeno-origins

🐟 (XEA) - Against it

Syscourse carrd link

[interstellar-cluster]

Syscourse and Plural code!

We took the liberty to answer the syscourse code and the plural code to the best of our ability.

Syscourse code:

👍 / ❤️ / 📘 / 🔸 / 🟢 / Y & 🌘 / 🟨 / 🌱 / ☀️ / 🍞 / 🐊 / 🐝 / 🦭

Plural code:

🌄 / 💙 / 🔦 / 🌲-🌻 / 🐻 / 🎧 / ⚡

Yeah so that's it. Please don't bring arguments onto our page, we're just making our stances clear!

[strawberry-graveyard]

idk why some people get so up in arms about trans sysmates who don’t “match” with what the body “should” be. cuz it’s not even a sys exclusionist thing, that’s queer exclusionist as well. you can be afab and transfem. you can be amab and transmasc. whether you’re intersex or perisex, monogender or multigender, multiple transitions in or zero transitions in, who fucking cares!! genders are weird do whatever the fuck you want with them!!

[starfallsystemblog2]

Does anyone have the syscourse stances emoji code thing?

[moonpool-system]

hi! syscourse code carrd was deleted. so the link in ur pinned no longer works! heres an archive of the carrd tho: https://web.archive.org/web/20240523060149/https://syscoursecode.carrd.co/

ty for this! wouldnt have been able to update otherwise

[amitys-shenanigans]

sup my fellow hiveminds, this is my syscourse blog

Will I regret this? Probably. But honestly this is a place where I will attempt to highlight the stupidity and the hypocrisy of BOTH communities because let’s be real, no one’s a saint here 😭

The system community is at such a low rn and being on it is exhausting. So instead of me trying to rage at one community with childish anger and hatred just because I don’t agree with them (like the 90% of the syscourse blogs, no offence) , I will instead call shit out from BOTH sides so yall are actually paying attention to the right shit instead of blaming each other for your own problems and issues that you caused.

I will post my own thoughts on here, I have my opinions too, but I am not gonna be harassing anyone (and if I have offended you or hurt you in any way then I am very sorry ;-;)

Quick boundaries before anything:

- USE TONETAGS IF YOU CAN PLEASE

- If you are not even gonna bother reading my entire post then don’t respond with bullshit

- I am not gonna be trying to justify if endos are valid or not or which side is better, the whole point of this blog is to get both communities to stop being dicks at each other, so please don’t harass us over the validity of non-traumagenic ppl and try to “prove to us” that endogenic systems are scientifically possible because we have our own beliefs on that and we will decide on our own terms and do the research ourselves. On the flip side, don’t harass or annoy us for simply listening to pro endos voices who are genuinely concerned and hurt.

- If you can’t handle seeing someone have a wildly different opinion than you then don’t talk to us

- If you wanna vent, you can, but please do keep in mind that this is primarily a blog for syscourse and to also be respectful. I get that it can get painful and that you are hurt, but calling people names and shit and being toxic because of their stance hurts everyone. If you are too angry then maybe you should vent elsewhere or take a step back for your mental health. KEEP THE VENTS IN ASKBOX /nm

- If you notice something wrong within your own community, you can tell us. We recommend showing us screenshots and other evidence if possible, however, this is not necessary.

- Tell us immediately if something is inaccurate. Do not assume that we will fix it on our own if we don’t know.

- I DO NOT TOLERATE BULLYING. YOU WILL BE REPORTED, BLOCKED, AND CALLED OUT IF I SEE YOU BULLYING ANYONE

Anyway heres the DNI:

- Sophie (you better not touch my damn blog)

- Radical blogs (get out)

- Transphobes, homophobes, racist, MAGA supporters

- Radqueers

- Proshippers

- Shitty debaters/if you can’t have a healthy argument with anyone without being a dick (go read a book first before you come at me with weak arguments and harassing me for bs that I never said)

- Anyone who is harassing my mutuals for no good reason

- Ableists

Who can interact:

- Anyone in the system community, including but not limited to: anti endos, pro endos, endo neutrals or other stances, traumagenic and non traumagenic systems, mixed origin systems, questioning systems, etc

- Anyone who actually knows how to read 😭 (please actually read my posts carefully before getting mad at us for something that we never said)

- Anyone who doesn’t fall under the DNI

MASTERLIST POST :

Navigation:

#general syscourse - general shit

#call outs - calling out the idiots

#heavy syscourse - heavy shit

#—amity posts - normal sane posts

#—vents - vent post

#—amity askbox - shit from da box :p

#—random - random shit

#—amity syscourse code - our syscourse code, please read

[eldricourse]

Syscourse Code

pt: syscourse code

link to code

👍 || 💜 || 📘 || 🔸 || 🔵🟣 || 🌘🌒 || 🟥 || 🌲 || ☀️🌤 || 🥖🥧 || 🐊 || 🐜 || 🐳

Question one - Do you believe in endogenic plurality

👍 : Yes

Question two - Opinion on tulpas

💜 : Nuanced opinion / other

Question three - Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📘 : People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

Question four - Opinion on shared spaces

🔸 : Shared spaces are good but there should also be specific spaces for disordered, traumagenic, endogenic, etc spaces.

Question five - Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🔵 : No, and I'm against transplural

🟣 : No

Question six - Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌘 : No, but a DID/OSDD/UDD system can form endogenic headmates.

🌒 : Nuanced opinion / other

Question seven - Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟥 : Yes

Question eight - Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌲 : Supportive

Question nine - Sysmed as a term

☀️ : I support it's usage

🌤 : I support it as long as it isn't misused and still means it's definition

Question ten - Traumascum as a term

🥖 : I think it's harmful

🥧 : I am against it

Question eleven - Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🐊 : Supportive

Question twelve - Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐜 : Neutral

Question thirteen - Xeno-origins

🐳 : Supportive

[forget-meabh-not]

Wishqueer

Wishqueer is a blankqueer term for those who wish for acceptance and for everyone to stop fighting! its for those who wish that online spaces will be more friendly and open and less hostile! its for those who are just so so tired of constantly having to prove that they are "valid" and just wish that they could relax.

Wishqueer is pro:

-Mogai/Liom

-System/plural

-Letting people identify how they would like along as it is not (genuinely) harmful

-M-Spec lesbians/gays

-"Contradictory" Labels

-Neopronouns

-Desirdae, Dissomei, Intusui, and other transID alternatives

-Acceptance of paraphiles/paraphilias

-Recovery for those who have harmful paraphilias

-Self Expression(such as body mods, "weird" ways to dress, etc)

-Kink at Pride

-Reclamation of slurs

-Alterhuman/Nonhuman

Wishqueer is neutral on:

-Shipcourse

Wishqueer is anti:

-Harrasment

-Radqueer

-[harmful]transIDs

-Xenosatanist

-Fakeclaiming

-Exclustionist

-Contact for harmful paras

-Minors in kink/nsfw spaces

-Syscourse

-Demonization of mental illnesses

-Forced recovery

Emoji Code: 💫🌨️

:D!

[buntress]

[ID in alt text by @horrgores ]

『 ✿ ⋆｡˚ 』 Old Queer

[PT :: Old Queer]

✿ Overview ✿

A blankqueer label // stance for queers who are too old for this shit. It believes that queer // mogai discourse and infighting is stupid and harmful to the community at large and that as long as you aren't harming anyone do whatever the hell you want. One doesn't have to be a specific age to ID with this term, just share the general sentiment. The emoji code is 『 🪻💚 』

✿ Stances ✿

What Old Queer Is ::

Pro MOGAI // Xenogender // Microlabels

Pro Mspec // Contradictory labels

Pro Endogenic // Non-Traumagenic systems and Anti-Syscourse

Pro Queer Education and Research

Pro going outside and becoming active in your irl community

Pro Recovery Paraphilia // Anti-Contact harmful paraphilia

Pro Kink at Pride

Pro Reclamation of slurs

Against the idea of Cluster Abuse ( NPD abuse, BPD abuse, etc)

Anti-Harassment, live and let live.

Pro fucking with bigots for fun

Pro harm reduction

Pro Therian // Otherkin // Alterhuman // Transspecies

What Old Queer isn't ::

Pro Radqueer

Pro TransID

Pro Xenosatanist

TERFs // TIRFs // Gender Crit // Gatekeeping

Exclusionary

Minors in kink // NSFW spaces

Tagging :: @radiomogai @io-archival @redacted-coiner @genderdenied @mimiscoiningcafe @discrophy @dsm--v @kiruliom Simplified flag + color meanings below the cut!

[ID in alt text]

✿ Design Meanings ✿

Shades of purple and blue-green because the colors purple and green are some of the oldest colors to represent the queer community

Yellow lines to represent queer joy

White to represent unity

Violets because, once more, it is one of the oldest queer symbols we have. While violets originally held a meaning for sapphic love, here it is to represent educating yourself further on queer history to understand your community better.

The lacy top and bottom lines to give it kind of a "grandmas lace" feel, making it feel older!

[heavens-roses]

Octocon and RAMCOA survivors

pt: octocon and RAMCOA survivors

cw: RAMCOA, number names

Felt I should share this as I haven't really seen it talked about in system or RAMCOA spaces. When you use Octocon your parts will be attached numbers to each part based off who was created first. While it's likely due to how to code the easiest. it is important to remember that if you are a survivor who has parts who were forced to be called a number, are a survivor who was called a number collectively/bodily, forced to refer to others as numbers or has any trauma related to number names please tread carefully.

I know as a survivor it can be extremely scary not being able to control your name or having anxieties related to not being called your number too. Please know you are not forced to use Octocon just because other people are using it. If plural kit or simply plural work best for you than keep using them. You do not need to switch over and risk your own mental health. Being a survivor who was dehumanized to numbers is horrible and whether you decide to reclaim your trauma or are healing by moving away from it know your triggers are valid.

Know you are never alone in healing your trauma and note this post is for education. This is not to bash in the creators of Octocon nor is it to tell you how to feel about the app/bot. At the end of the day how you find support with yourself is for only you and your system to decide. With thet being said do not interact with this post if you are pro/neu-endo / believe in any form of "plurality" outside of being trauma based. If you are a questioning system, a cdd system who is syscourse unaligned or apathetic you are more than welcome to repost and interact.

[help-an-alter]

INTRO

Hello! Welcome to our blog.

blog is for fragments, by fragments.

THIS BLOG SUPPORTS PALESTINE!

THE MODS!

Creator (alters listed);

anything with a ".here" at the end of the name is the creator (the one who came up with this!!)

S (Any pronouns)

55 (Any xenos or he/it.)

RAINBOW (Any, preferably feminine but they dont mind)

Rs (He/him)

A (masculine pronouns of any sort.)

J (he/they)

Red (Any masculine pronouns)

Some have chosen to hide their real name, and instead use a code name. --------

Other mods here!!! (create a template of your own if you want)

mod cupid / mod 💘

Bitter (they/them)

Adorerine (she/he/they/it/love++)

Cherie (she/it/mew)

Mimi (she/needle)

(that's all the alters we know are gonna help sometimes)

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jinx / helena / mortuary [they/them]

sayona [she/they]

ven [he/him]

ari [it/she/glitch/pop+]

ithaca [fog/they] -----

Oz (they/them)

Lei (they/any)

Cog (he/him)

G (he/they)

Sol (he/they)

Boo (she/her)

On this blog we will collectively go by Shiver (they/them), some of the alters helping out have stayed anon with fake names! -------

Sprout (He/Him)

Mousey (She/They/Adore)

Other alters might pop in but it’s mainly these two!

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Hi, I'm Mod Celestia (System)! We use any pronouns (including neos and xenos) :3

I can't guarantee alters will do sign offs but they might, and if so they'll probably do their name then .cel

Some alters who will likely help this blog are

Anne Marie (she/ghost/blood/fire/wing/death)

Niki (she/they/it)

Row (they/it/he/xe/paw/fern/allium/hydrangea/hyacinth)

Draculaura (she/they/fang/bat/blood)

Collei (she/vi/bloom/pain)

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rapture/ajaw (he/rapture/it)

all alters from our system will have a .crow on the end of their name, but expect to see me more than anyone.

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Mod FireFly/Mod Lupin (it/fae/xe/they)

Zero/Oliver/Maveryck (he/it/creach)

Ronin/Butcher (he/it)

RagDoll/BabyDoll (he/she)

We most likely won't be specifying which alter is posting the requests!

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mod 💫 (hy/dae/they) we will mainly be posting as one on here, so no need to worry abt alter names or anything :)

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mod niki (they/them)

probably wont have alters do individual sign offs, but if they do, it will be “__ of niki” !

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↓ more under the cut! ↓

wowweeeee is that an anon list!?!!?

DNI:

supporters of Endos or any non disordered 'systems'

any non disordered 'systems'

people who see this as build an alter. its different. read the FAQ

Pedos, zoophiles, anti furries, anti regression, anti system in general.

Syscourse

Racists, Zionists, pro-israel

Pro r/systemscringe

Sophieinwonderland (she cant follow dnis so thats why shes here)

FAQ

"What is "Help an Alter?"

You know that really ableist "build an alter"? yea? its like THAT, but for fragmented alters with no sense of identity. We do not build alters, we help them find themself.

"I have a question!!"

Questions can be directed to our inbox.

"syscourse blah blah"

Syscourse is NOT welcome on this blog.

"Im an endo and..."

Endos are also not welcome.

"Whats your main blog?"

We aren't comfortable with sharing.

"Are you hiring?"

Not at the moment, we have enough mods :)

-- END OF QUESTIONS --

Thanks for the questions !

Special thank yous: @syscultureis and their followers for helping us find the name, @anti-endo-safe-space for being so comforting with your messages, @anti-endo-polyfragculture for being so epic and inspiring us, all of our main blog mutuals for supporting us (you know who you are!!), @systemterms for being so helpful, @syspport for the awesome userbox (shown at the end!!) and everyone else!

[plural-confessions]

I'm so. Fucking. Tired. of constantly looking over my shoulder, hiding our digital footprint, using codes, passwords and end-to-end encryption, only being able to express ourselves through symbolism and subtext. I hate that I have to hide such a key part of who we are.

Being closeted sucks. The syscourse community sucks. And we can't get a CDD assessment without our abusers being involved -- at least, not for years.

At this rate, I'm not even sure we'll make it that far.

«✦⅋✧»

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