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Bruce: Jason and Stephanie love to spite me, that’s why they eloped and got married in Vegas
Bruce: joke’s on them though, they only proved me right. I saw this coming the moment they started dating
#first day officially dating bruce told them to be careful bc they’re both impulsive#they got mad at him and did something impulsive to piss him off#jaysteph#jason todd#stephanie brown#batfamily#batfam
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(Red Hood and Spoiler extracting Red Robin after HE was dosed with truth serum)
Red Hood: Come on, Replacement.
Spoiler: He's surprisingly heavy. I thought he would be lighter.
Red Robin, wistfully: I miss Kon. It's been awhile.
Red Hood: I bet it has, buddy.
Red Robin: I love his jacket. Oh my god! His jacket is so hot. Makes me melt.
Spoiler: Is this how he felt when he had us?
Red Hood: Maybe?
Red Robin: And his tongue-
*Spoiler and Red Hood both cover his mouth)
Spoiler: We need to apologize for thinking he was exaggerating what you got from someone on truth serum.
Red Hood: Yeah, we do.
#incorrect quotes#dc comics#incorrect dc quotes#batfam incorrect quotes#jason todd#stephanie brown#tim drake#jaysteph#timkon#They thought he was exaggerating#he was not#karma's a bitch#next time maybe you won't doubt him#i thought writing this would be fun#i was right
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Jason todd's type is women who would tell the cashier he asked for no pickles and men who could dismantle governments in their spare time. he's THE Sub.
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"Oh Steph wouldn't like Jason just because they have similar backgrounds because he kills people/is a criminal/fights the bats!!"



This is in the 90's BEFORE he even tortured her. She doesn't go through with it, but she sees the evil he's capable of and its enough for her to justify it. She only doesn't because it "goes against what Batman taught her" but well.
That's the same man who would let her dad's friends infest her house for MONTHS until BLACK CANARY came to Gotham and handled it

A grown man who would go on to verbally degrade her, withhold the tools he gave everyone else, keep her intentionally isolated and then use her lack of resources against her.





So yeah. I'm sure Steph's faith in Batman and his teachings have wavered plenty. Just because DC casually discarded the way she was treated so she could play happy family with the boys, but she has NO REASON TO. Before she was aged down there was definite tension between her and Tim, and while Babs worked to get that relationship back, Bruce did no such thing. "Oh I'm just as proud of you as I was with the boys" when he thought she was dying doesn't fucking change how he treated her.
And of course, there's her own forray into betraying the family and being a criminal in The Next Batman series.

That's without getting into how she was compared to Jason, the way she watched a murdered east end kid be toted as another violent, reckless, idiot who didn't think and got himself killed.
"Oh but he tried to kill Tim!" First of all, you didn't read that comic. Jason was TESTING him, they were 2 years apart MAXIMUM, and Tim FOUGHT BACK. Jason gave him a little cut and a nose bleed that he slapped a bandage on and was fine. Damian also started his first meeting with Tim antagonistically and even though he was actively hostile to her, Steph still formed a close sibling bond. Her first meeting with Tim she threw a brick at him. He spent a not significant amount of time belittling her and telling her she wasn't cut out for hero work when she came back. This is the same guy who hallucinated Jason just so Jason could be like "Oh I got myself killed don't be like me!" Can we be real she doesn't give a shit. I guess you could count Hush but. I know they retconned it so that was Jason but when the fuck would he have had the time to do that between death, catanoia, the All-caste, and his murder tour.
Stephanie understands better than anyone that desperate circumstances lead to desperate people who do bad things. Stephanie understands being belittled and compared to a rich white boy who never had to fight to survive like you did. She understands being isolated from the hero community. She understands the evil that exists and the ways the system is corrupt, and that the bad guy never STAYS caught. And it's not like she has any big problem with people who kill, Babs said in 90's she would fucking LOVE Joker to drop dead and Dinah has killed multiple times. She literally switched places with Lady Shiva? These are both women Steph looks up to. You don't think Steph would feel any admiration at all for someone who gave Bruce a taste of what it feels like to be shown up? Someone who made Roman's life hell? Someone who made Tim put action behind his shit talking? An alley kid who came back and refused to be another statistic, who showed everyone who spent the last decade calling him stupid and reckless EXACTLY how cunning he can be? None? At all?
I just find it a little hard to believe.
#You can hate Jason if you REALLY want to but that doesn't mean you can sand down Steph so she will too#“but he kills people” “okay. and?”#“he beat up your ex boyfriend?” “oh cool me too.”#“um. he was mean to Bruce?” “lmao I hope he cried”#If anything she's mad he HASN'T killed black mask yet#dc#jason todd#stephanie brown#hmm#I need to make a panel by panel comparison#because they mirror each other SO MUCH#like I really do think you guys undersell that they are narrative foils#they are meant to parallel each other#and yeah obviously similar stories don't mean they'll like each other.#but. literally why the fuck wouldn't they#you just hate to see two bad bitches win I'm convinced#Jaysteph#saw someone say that the ship only uplifts Jason??#your honor. only if you treat her like a prop that passively reacts to everything the boys do#kind of like Timsteph funnily enough#anti tim drake#bruce wayne critical
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So I was just thinking about how most of Jason's non-canon ships are just a big fuck you to his family, and I needed to compile it. It just became funnier with that.
Disclaimer: I do not include batcest, but beside that, it's not about what ship is good and what not. You don't ship it, that's okay. I don't ship or loke some of them either. It's just about hillarity of it all. Be respectful.
JayRoy - steal your brother's ex-best friend (or even funnier, steal your ex if we want pas DickRoy)
JayKori - and I know it's canon they have a romance/something but it's still funny in the context of Jason being a steal your ex guy fpr Dick.
Joyfire - steal your brother's ex-best friend (or ex-boyfriend if we want) and ex-girlfriend/fiance
JayBabs - also sem-canon, but is it really... Do I have to say it again? No. But I will anyways. Steal your ex guy.
JaySteph - steal your other brother's ex (althought personally I'm a fan of Jason and Cass being a steal your ex duo)
JayKon - ✨️steal your best friend✨️
Jayde - when you get together with your ex's (a firiend I guess) father and your brother's worst enemy. Hillarious. (Beside, I like to think Rose would try to get revenge by seducing one of his brothers or, even better, getting with one of Jason's exes. I just think Rose, Essence and Artemis should meet.)
JayKyle - that one is the least fuck you, but like... Kyle's a green lantern, so i'll take it as a win.
#it's just so funny to think about dick and jason's interactions in that context#dc#shipping#red hood#jason todd#dc comics#batman#jaykyle#jayfire#jayde#jayroy#jaybabs#jaykori#sladejay#jaysteph#onnahu's thoughts about Jason
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I would love the dynamic between Jason and Stephanie being:
Other bats: hey Jason don’t do the thing trust me on this
Jason: fuck you! *does the thing*
Steph: *not saying a word because she gets why Jason is doing the thing*
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Steph: hey Jason don’t do this thing please trust me on this
Jason: okay *doesn’t do the thing because Stephanie doesn’t normally ask something like that unless she has a good reason.
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Other bats: hey Stephanie tell Jason not to do the thing
Stephanie, who gets why Jason is doing the thing: no
Stephanie: *goes to help Jason because he is an idiot but her idiot*
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Stephanie also: hey Jason I’m going to do something dumb
Jason: tell me what we need and I’ll get it and help you
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TOP 10 Jason Todd "Red Hood"
1.-Jason Todd/Dick Grayson (8699) 2.-Jason Todd/Tim Drake (7011) 3.-Jason Todd/Roy Harper (3179) 4.-Jason Todd/Bruce Wayne (2147) 5.-Jason Todd/Slade Wilson (1114) 6.-Jason Todd/Damian Wayne (861) 7.-Jason Todd/Marinette Dupain-Cheng (837) 8.-Jason Todd/Stephanie Brown (565) 9.-Jason Todd/Kyle Rayner (440) 10.-Jason Todd/Roman Sionis (407)
This list doesn't include fanfics tagged with Jason Todd/Reader.
Please don't comment hate messages, this post is purely informative. I don't want my notifications to be filled with ship wars/hate or mean in general :/
#jaydick#jaytim#jayroy#brujay#sladejay#jaydami#maribat#jaysteph#jaykyle#romanjay#jason todd#dc comics#Dc#dick grayson#tim drake#roy harper#slade wilson#damian wayne#kyle rayner#stephanie brown#roman sionis#marinette dupain cheng#for some reason...#charts#statistics#Danny Fenton almost made it into this top
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When they’re an assassin and your ex’s older sibling 👀 upgrades people!
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Bruce has a whiteboard with all the pairings that should be avoided:
Dick it’s mostly fine with everyone, except maybe Cass (they have a little acrobatic competition going on and sometimes it envolves broken limbs, Alfred it’s not happy);
Duke and Damian it’s a no no, Damian can be very persuasive and Duke tends to go along with it;
Babs and Tim is a danger zone, with their skill set they can be very dangerous when bored;
Steph and Jason??? Absolutely NO! Completely chaos, disaster and madness. Avoid at all costs;
He’s just glad Tim and Damian haven’t figured out the potencial of destruction they have together. They’re both extremely determined and ambitious, one is a genius and the other is a ninja. So while they use it against each other, the world should be safe.
#once jason and steph went on a mission in california#they came back married in vegas somehow#batfamily#batfam#damian wayne#tim drake#jason todd#bruce wayne#dick grayson#cassandra cain#duke thomas#stephanie brown#jaysteph
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(Every main male of the Batfamily looking at Jason)
Jason, who had just walked in: What? Why did you call for me?
Tim, raising a box: Is this what I think it is?
Jason, panicked: Did you go searching through my room-
Dick: So it's true! Little Wing is gonna get married~
Damian: *tsk* They both could do better.
Duke: This is great news!
Alfred: I must say, I am quite proud of you for taking this next step.
Jason, trying to shove Dick off of him: Will you all fuckin' stop hounding me- I'll start cutting heads off again, I will-
*Bruce clears his throat, and everybody stops, shuffling away to let the two tallest stare it out*
Jason: What? Disapprove?
Bruce:
Bruce: The opposite. I'm proud of you. Only one question though.
Jason: And what's that?
Bruce: Who's the Best Man?
Jason:
Jason: Not any of you fuckers, that's for damn sure-
#incorrect quotes#dc comics#incorrect dc quotes#batfam incorrect quotes#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#bruce wayne#duke thomas#damian wayne#alfred pennyworth#jaysteph#he bought a ring guys#they're going all the way#quick note though#best man is in-between Roy and Alfred#so many shady people are going to show up to this wedding#funnily enough one of them might be Deathstroke himself#I hope I don't break some of you
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Favourite jason ship dynamic in general?

If Artemis puts her mind to it, she'll get him pregnant. Hope that helps!
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Crimes against Stephanie Brown:
Getting only 24 issues of her run as Batgirl. I wish she had more, after all isn't Cass getting now a new run as Batgirl again?
Not appearing at the boy wonder comic when it was specifically Robins related and instead they put Barbara as Batgirl (like if you wanted a Batgirl use the fucking Batgirl who used to be a Robin).
Not being included at birds of prey with Cass and Babs.
Getting 2 heroes team projects with her included rejected. (In one she was with Supergirl and Damian, denying us that is a hate crime)
Not appearing in Damian's drawing of people who loves him when she is canonically the first big sister figure he had and she helped him be a kid and have fun.
Getting her character denigrated by Tim's bisexual actions like: dumping her without giving her a reason or having a proper talk, ghosting her for months, only talk to her after their friends force him to do it and then without warning or asking her introducing his new boyfriend to her and make her react like a fujoshi 13 years old wattpad writter saying that "the best day ever" Is meeting her ex' new boyfriend in the most cringe way ever.
The time they tried to erase her time as Robin and Batgirl in the new 52 reboot
Only let her be Robin for 2 months and was fired for doing something every Robin has done more than once.
Dying so fast in DCeased when she became Damian's Robin and never coming back even after Taliah said she would use the Lazarus pit on her.
Not having a visual reaction of Selina, Cassandra, Dick and Babs to her being alive.
Jason not mentioning her to rub it on Batman's face when he came back to life for revenge or mentioning her to black mask, what a wasted opportunity!
Never had the realistic representation of the trauma she should have after being tortured by black mask.
Never hanging out properly again with huntress (well I think they were seen together again once but not enough), Supergirl, Black Canary or Green Arrow junior after the reboot.
The fact that in my opinion she never got a proper apology from all the people that wronged her and treated her badly, like a lesser fighter, like she was a bother, like she wasn't made for vigilante life, I think I saw Tim apologizing to her but it felt shallow.
Not showing us Tim visually crying for her death.
Completely ignore how was her very first interaction with Catwoman, in which Selina was extremely kind and sweet with her only to screw it in the second meeting in her run as Batgirl and later in the new 52 reboot making Selina be a jerk to her.
Making Alfred be cold and dry to her in their first interaction, yes he later cries on her death and then he is very happy when she comes back and later he stands up to her against Batman's stupid tests but it doesn't erase the fact that he was mean to her when he met her and I think that was out of character with Alfred.
Her teen pregnancy arc, some people might think this was a way to make her character more tragic and deep but that pregnancy arc didn't bring anything good to her character because it was all about Tim not her and it makes my blood boil. This arc was just a cheap "easy" Way to make Tim and Steph become closer in their relationship by making Tim be there for her and taking care of her even though he wasn't the father and help her and that and I suppose it was also to make more dramatic her death telling Batman that she had a daughter and Batman be all like: "I'll make sure the baby never has to ask for anything" And then Steph dies... Seriously this is the one thing I wish they could erase from canon FOREVER, making Steph go through that just to make her deepen her relationship with Tim only for getting killed off and eventually dumped with everything she already had on her plate was CRIMINAL
Jason not meeting her properly before the stupid new 52 reboot and still not having the trauma and dead Robin talk with her.
#stephanie brown#dc robin#dcu#dc#dc comics#the batman#batman#batgirl#tim drake#jason todd#jaysteph#timsteph#cassandra cain#barbara gordon
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On a mission together waiting for the bad guys to show up
Bruce: How long have you been sleeping with Red Hood?
Stephanie: That’s disgusting and wrong! I don’t even get… Why would… I… I’ve never had sex with anyone anywhere! It’s none of your… you have… the nerve… Red Hood is like a million years old, technically, and he is terrible, face wise! And how… how… Do I know, frankly, that you’re not sleeping with him?! Maybe you are! Maybe you’re trying to throw me off! Hm, check and mate! ….. This is an outrage! Who told you?!?!
#gotham#batman#batfamily#the batman#batgirl#bruce wayne#batfam#batman and robin#batman: wayne family adventures#incorrect batfamily quotes#jason todd#stephanie brown#red hood#jaysteph
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Stephanie starts flirting with Jason a) to fuck with Bruce because she hates his guts but still has to work with him and if she’s gonna be in the same room as fucking Bruce Wayne then she’s going to inflict maximum psychological damage at all times, b) to fuck with Tim for ghosting her the way he did, and c) because she doesn’t actually know anything about this giant slab of teenaged boy except what’s been filtered through Bruce, Tim, and Babs. Of all of them, Babs is the most cautiously positive, so she wants to see how he’ll react.
At first he’s tense and suspicious, about what she’d expected. The only reason she keeps going with it after that is to fuck with Bruce and Tim. But then one day she’s hanging around making fruitless eyes at Cass, who doesn’t know what sex or romance even is and has even-more-horribly aligned herself with Bruce, when Jason walks in. Guns strapped to his thighs. New mask covering his lower face. Glare already fixed in Bruce. And Stephanie kind of automatically calls, “oh hey, cutie, how’re you?”
and Jason
BLUSHES
Totally caught off guard, sort of stammers a bit then turns and just. Walks right out of the Bat Cave.
After that it is On. At least four times a week Stephanie reduces this giant slab of teenaged crime lord to a bashful mess. It’s her favorite game in the world. Tim and Bruce are losing their minds (Cass is confused and a little put out for reasons she cannot understand), but it ain’t about them anymore, no. Stephanie is a lion on the Serengeti and Jason is a wounded gazelle.
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