#Titan's tower

[outoftimewriting]

"oh jason almost murdered tim in titan's tower" well he might have carved him up a little, but tim absolutely send him back to his grave. tim looked at that fresh zombie ass and went "well guess who's back, the failure!"

[yuwigqi]

I'm not saying Jason attacking Tim titans tower is actually all that brutal, cause it's not. And physical fights aren't uncommon for siblings. And that you can make jokes about "peak sibling behavior" and that its funny.

But I hope the people saying this understand that siblings beating each other so badly they have scars and bruises that their parents should have intervened. Like. You understand that right. Children sending their siblings to the hospital is bad, and as a parent you need to do whatever you can to stop that. Do you get that.

[psychologeek]

Red Hood

DAY 24: "i'm doing this because i care about you" ALT 10: last man standing

[from Who am I (to disappear))]

Maybe he didn't think it through.

Possibly.

Just, you know, the tiniest bit.

Drugging all the baby heroes to sleep, using aerosol, was a brilliant idea. He'll give it to himself.

Also using his old codes.

Which, honestly? He didn't really think it would work.

Still: great execution. Pun might be intended.

Anyway.

Kid obviously still up in the kitchen, probably working on the post-mission report or some other bullshit.

( The best thing about being dead? No. Fucking. PAPERWORK .)

Sitting with a mug of coffee and

(Is that Zesty? The kid really mixes those poisons together? 

Nuh, of course he would. Like the sleepless workaholic bird he really is.)

They talk, and he already prepared some FUCKING AWESOME monolouge. Vicios and snob and all that. And he beats the kid. Bat won’t take it seriously otherwise. Kid fight as good as he gets.

And then there’s something—

( the worst part? he doesn’t even remember what )

and the Green is all he sees, and–

(No. The worst part is when he sees a bleeding head full of black hair. The worst part is seeing a body, lay down in the bottom of the staircase, as the blood spread around. The worst part is knowing that he did it. That he's just like that fucking clown.)

His alarm beeps. Someone’s trying to enter via Zeta-tube.

(He can’t help tha kid. 

Because it’s a goddamn kid, Jason. 

What’s wrong with you?)

He can’t help the kid, but maybe someone else could?

He release the block he put on the Tubes, and head to the transport room through the secret passage in the walls.

He can't even remember how he got back to Gotham. How he made it to the safehouse. 

All he knows is washing his hands in the rusted sink and staring at a shattered mirror he still sees the abyss and the monsters is inside, now, and his fist–

And everything is red, red, red round him.

Tag bc you may like: @envysparkler @shinekocreator @jasontoddsguns

[snitchfeather]

Titans Tower AU (Tim calls Jason a misogynist and confuses him into stopping)

"I didn't realize you were a misogynistic pig.  Punishing an innocent person just to get back at someone else, ugh, I thought you'd be better than that."

The words made Jason freeze, arm paused midair.  He'd been about to bring down the kids own bo staff down against his back but all thoughts fled Jason's mind as he tried to process the words that had spilled out of the kids mouth.  He'd been so taken aback by the kid's statement that the green bled from his vision and loosened his stance, unsure what his next move should be.

"What the fuck about this is misogynistic Bird Brain"

The kid responded with a sigh as if exasperated by having to explain himself.  He gingerly pulled himself up from the protective fetal pose he'd taken, dragging himself into a sitting position and leaning against the wall behind him.  It unnerved Jason, seeing the person he'd just been viciously fighting suddenly switch from fear to boredom.  There was something seriously wrong with this kid.

"It's the entire concept, the history.  This is such a patriarchal move, punishing a man that you have a problem with by hurting their family.  Who do you think is the person that gets caught in the crossfire the most historically?  The wife.  And you're just perpetuating it."

Jason rapidly blinked, trying to keep up with the sudden rant, stance relaxing even further as he became increasingly more confused.

"Sure, I'm not a woman but you're just sending the message that you agree with it.  Look at all of those people who look to you for approval in Crime Alley.  They're going to see that you agree with this type of 'punishment' and do you really think they wouldn't stoop low enough to not hurt innocent wifes and children.  You're just acting like a cog in the machine, keeping the cycle of violence against innocent victims going.  You claim to have morals but I sure don't fucking see them now.  You didn't even have the decency to fight me on neutral territory, instead ambushing me in one of the few places I could feel safe when I was nowhere near prepared."

The words were swirling around his mind, making him more conscious of his every action.  He tried to reply, not sure what he was going to say but just wanting the kid to shut up for a moment to let him think, but the kid cut him off before he could even make a sound.

"Ah ah ah, don't even think about saying shit about me being in armor.  I just came back from fighting a giant freaking robot for hours, muscles strained and finally relaxing, guard down because I'm somewhere I consider home.  It's fucking bullshit to say this was an even fight.  So is that it, not just a misogynist but a child abuser?"

Robin had slowly (agonizingly) gotten back on his feet and was slowly walking towards Jason, pushing him backwards as he tried to keep a distance between them.  As much as he loathed to admit it, the kid was freaking him out.  Maybe it was the unsettling switch in emotions or maybe a reaction to being lectured and judged.  Either way, he just wanted to get away from the young hero and was running through the escape routes he'd left himself, trying to think of the nearest one.

"Cause guess what buckoo, me being Robin doesn't change the fact that I'm 15 and fighting me unprepared just further proves you just wanted to beat me up.  What, does me not being a kid suddenly matter to you because it sure did when you were yelling about Batman having child soldiers.  Fucking pick a side dude.  Do you have morals or not?"

He barely caught the last sentence, already running away but the words stuck in his mind, echoing even hours later.  It haunted him.  Before their encounter, he'd thought he had some.  Sure, he was a murderer and a crime lord but he protected innocent people.  He prevented kids being used as mules or being sold drugs, he protected the prostitutes from abuse and paid them a more than fair wage.  But he wasn't sure anymore.

Fucking teenagers.

[myshipsbesailing]

Dick, pointing to Jason's photo : This is Jason. He was our brother. He liked literature and was very good at school. People would've told you he was violent but he was the sweetest and would've never been on the wrong side.

Damian, who has seen Jason training in the League of Assasins to commit homicide and probably mass murder in Gotham : Okay

[rubydubydoo122]

I saw someone say a while ago that Jason attacking Tim at Titans Tower was just Tim hallucinating bc he was feeling guilty about being Robin even though Jason's not dead. Which is great, amazing, I think the whole Titans Tower thing is Bonkers, but I think it would be so much funnier if Jason tried to Gaslight Tim into believing the Titans Tower incident never happened, not because he's like evil, he's just super embarassed about it. like Or Tim did actually hallucinate Jason at TT but thinks it was real, so when he tells Jason about it, Jason's so fucking confused, and Tim thinks Jason's Gaslighting him

Tim: Remember that time when you broke into Titans Tower and beat me half to death while wearing a Robin costume from party city

Jason: What? Tim, I know i'm crazy, but I'm not...Insane.

Tim, pulling down his collar: I literally have the scar to prove it

Jason: Bruce told me that was from Clayface pretending to be me, which, might I just say rude. Tim... are you ok? Did you hallucinate me attacking you? like, I know I've done that before, but...

Tim, frowning: I don't think I hallucinating. I was benched for a while after because I had to recover-

Jason: well, you were benched around the time I was dropping hints that I knew who Bruce was outside of Batman, he probably just benched you to keep you safe. You probably were working too many cases with too little sleep and your imagination started to run wild.

Tim: Are you gaslighting me?

Jason: Are you gaslighting me?

[ghost-bxrd]

Figured out the colors :))

[cademygod]

i just saw a post where someone said jason would call tim a poser and now all i can think about is an exchange like this at titans tower

jason: you fucking poser you took what was everything to me

tim, delirious but still offended: i know how to skateboard ??

[two-sibyls-tall]

Some of My Favorite Batfam Fic Tropes

In no particular order:

 - The batfam have their own language of chirps, trills, tweets, and whistles, and they use it in front of other ppl (civilians, the jla, whatever) and the other ppl go “what the actual fuck”

 - Bruce throwing the batarang at Jason Todd’s neck actually Does Damage(TM), and eventually the other members of the family find out and lose their shit

 - “Hey Tim?” “Yeah?” “Where’s your fucking spleen :)” “Lost it.” “LOST IT??”

 - Damian calling his brothers Akhi :)

 - “How many kids do you HAVE??” -The entire Justice League

 - Jason going to Titans Tower, seeing Tim, saying “is anyone gonna parent that” and then not waiting for an answer.

 - Literal Toddler Tim Drake informing the Batfamily that yes he knows everyone’s identity, and really if you didn’t want people to figure it out you should stop showing off your extremely niche skills during patrols Nightwing.

 - “Dude your son is a crime boss.” “Ex-crime boss :/”

 - A Batfamily member hearing someone talk about their civilian identity (bc, yknow,, they’re famous) and just having to Deal With It because what the fuck else are they supposed to do??

 - The Justice League hearing about Batman and assuming he (& his family) are demons or vampires or some other cryptid, and then meeting him and finding out he’s just Some Guy.

 - The batfamily learning the origin of the name Robin

- The Justice League meeting the Batfamily and specifically learning who Red Hood is, and one of the heroes nervously asks “Didn’t the second Robin.. die?” and Jason just goes “yeah lol”

Edit // If ur seeing this original post by itself, I already posted a fic rec list related to these tropes :)

[evasive-anon]

Jason Attacking Tim at Titans Tower

Fanon vs Canon

We've all seen the versions in fanfiction but I'm not so sure everyone's seen the original so if you're one of those batfam fans who doesn't want to read the comics (regardless of reasons) but you are curious about how it actually went this is for you.

What I'm addressing:

What does Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?

Did Jason drug all the other Titans?

Did Jason really wear a Robin costume?

Did Jason slit Tim's throat or call him replacement?

Did Jason actually break Tim's bo staff?

Was Tim crying or scared?

Did Jason write a message on the wall in Tim's blood?

Did Jason's eyes glow green?/Did he follow pit rage mechanics?

Panels and details below. This is a LONG one.

What did Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?

Dialogue in fanfiction during the Titans Tower attack varies based on what kind of fic you're reading but usually its either 'time to clip Replacement's wings' if its staying a beatdown whump 'or oh no precious lil bby why is no one watching you' if its an accidental child acquisition. Not judging either option, but this ain't about them its about the real shit.

Look at these opening lines:

Hey, Tim. I was here first.You're the Red Hood. You've been cleaning up Gotham the easy way. Easy? What do you know about easy, Tim? You had a father that looked after you. You went to a private school, right? You slept in a bed. I slept on the streets, I lived in the alleyways in Gotham. Trying to survive. Until Bruce took me in. I trained as hard as I could. I did whatever he asked. . . at least at first. But it didn't matter. They said I wasn't tough enough to be robin. But today, they say you are. Show me, Tim. Show me what you have that I didn't.

Jason really puts himself out there in all of his dialogue in this encounter, the struggle of having to fight for anything and everything he got in life, even the things that came to everyone else for free, and then being told he wasn't even good enough for the things he fought for.

There's a trope in fanfics that if Jason knew Tim stalked Batman and forced his way into being Robin that it would change how Jason felt about the situation but that's even addressed in this comic:

You were a kid, worried about how Batman was spiraling down into darkness. You spent weeks tracking the dark knight. Solving a mystery no one else could. You discovered who he was behind that mask. Millionaire Bruce Wayne. You were so pleased with yourself, I'm sure that you forgot who you were really dealing with. I know Bruce Wayne. And let me tell you, Tim if someone was trying to find out who Batman really was. If someone was stalking him for weeks. He'd know about it. You can't be that good. I am. He let you find him. And I bet he said the same thing to you as he did to me, didn't he? That you had a talent to make a difference in Gotham. That he needed someone he could trust in war on crime. That you were one of a kind. The light to his darkness. Robin, the Boy Wonder.

Tim saying 'I am' is really such a moment that doesn't come through in text because he is right that he really did do that but I also completely understand why Jason wouldn't believe it.

TBH my favorite part is how done Tim honestly sounds with Jason thoughout all his trauma dumping. Like imagine a grown man who used to work the same part time job as you breaking into your house, dressing up in your work uniform, ranting about how much the job ruined his life while he beats your ass??? God, and he probably had to write a fucking report about it after. RIP Timmy.

What do you want? Do you want to be Robin again? Is that it? You... want to take it away from me? Why in the hell would I ever want that? Don't you get it? When I died no one cared! No one remembered me. Are you completely insane? No one could forget you. I've spent my entire career wearing this mask under your shadow. I had to convince Batman to let me try this. All because he'll never stop blaming himself for what happened to you. You ask me, that's the only reason he hasn't taken you down. He's holding back. But me? No freakin' way. That's the Robin I wanted to see. Still. You do realize the whole idea of training a teenager to fight against something he'll never eradicate is a mistake. It didn't even surprise anyone when I died. When I failed. I failed-- but I'm still beating you. Do you think you're that good now?! Do you really, Tim? Yes.

Tim bashing Jason across the face as he says 'no freakin' way'? *chefs kiss*

Jason drugging the other Titans to knock them out?

Little bit true, Kory was actually just already away from the tower and BB and Cyborg were about to bounce because of the drama going on with Donna's return but Jason like super tazes them and then drugs Raven who he thought already went through enough shit without him knocking her out violently.

Note: Jason says in the text here that he never rolled with Cyborg or BB but like he actually did in some comics so?? The continuity is lie I guess idk.

Did he show up in Red Hood gear or a Robin costume?

Both tbh but he spent most of the time in the Robin costume but bro actually made a stripper rip away version of his Red Hood gear so he could dramatically reveal the Robin costume underneath. I can't believe no one ever includes that in their fics its so fucking funny.

Does he call Tim 'replacement' or slit his throat?

No, this came from a Batman comic with Hush not Teen Titans. That incident takes place in a graveyard not Titans Tower and he calls Tim pretender not replacement.

Does Jason break Tim's staff?

Tragically, no. The bo staff snap would have been iconic. Instead he just takes Tim's staff and beats Tim up with it and breaks stuff. BUT!! He uses it to bust a statue in the TITANS MEMORIAL ROOM which is a place in Titans Tower just for having statues of dead previous titans and Jason is rightfully pissed he didn't get one. Like Tim is correct in saying no one forgot him still but like I would be hurt too if all my friends made cool statues of friends that died and then just left my zombie ass out, like wtf.

Note: I am seriously losing my shit that I have never seen someone bring up the memorial room in a fanfic. That is so much angst material. 😭

Tim crying/ being scared?

Hell no. He's a fucking Robin you know he's being a sassy boy the whole time, even towards the end when he's about done he's still saying he's her and I love Tim for that.

Note: There are a few different times where Tim does a flippy Robin move and then Jason just fucking copies it like flexing that he can do it too, and its just so petty and stupid he's trying so hard to be better than an actual child. 💀I get why in the context of the situation but its still so ridiculous.

Message on the wall in Tim's blood?

TBH I really don't know for sure on this one?? Like its implied that he did but Tim isn't bleeding all that much throughout this beatdown and like we don't see Jason do it just the Titans reacting to seeing it after. It could be Tim's blood, it could be red paint, and it could even be that Jason packed an actual bucket of blood to bring with him to write a message with after he finished. TBH the world is your oyster on this one.

Note: If anyone can find another comic where this event was brought up where they actually clarify it was Tim's blood hmu and I'll update this but I couldn't find any.

Pit rage/ glowing green eyes?

Fanon only at this point in the comics. Jason is seems to be himself and even thinks Tim and his friends are pretty cool at the end, and he's just like reflecting on if he had good friends if he would have turned out better as he leaves.

[starry-storms]

One of my new favorite tropes is the Titans Tower attack, but Tim says something so out of pocket that Jason has to stop and re-evaluate everything.

And I'm not talking "I love you, please go back to Bruce"

I'm talking "Ah you're here to kill me? Can I have your jacket?"

[ky-landfill]

[r1z3n]

I was visited by a hilarious image:

Tim Drake Wayne being a wet feral cat of teenage human, talking one look at Jason Todd aka Red Hood and being insulted, INSULTED, that Jason was trying to steal his thing.

"Jason, ... Stop screaming it is just me, ... Of course I know where you live and who you are ... Shut up, not the point. Stop trying to steal my thing, I am the Unhinged Competent Robin okay. I worked really hard to set myself apart from you and Dick, and I won't have you out here ruining that."

Jason, starring at this 5' probably 50kg wet child that just broken into his safe house to tell him off in like civilian clothes: ... Did you uninstall your self-preservation?

Tim *who has been ranting this Entire Time*, now angry about other things: I am not A Robot!! Have you been talking to Roy, because I told him last time I have blood, and bones, and they are owned by me.

Aka the Titan Tower doesn't happen because Jason is suddenly part of the team in stopping Tim from doing the teenage vigilante equivalent of clawing the nice furniture and swatting important stuff off the counter while staring down.

[qweenofurheart]

lol imagine having to hang out with your brother that beat the shit out of u within an inch of your life

[cripskis]

jason went on a hike, tim suffered for it

[thedrunknextdoor]

titans tower au where when jason reveals himself he lets it slip that he’s been alive for years and tim just gets fucking pissed

Tim: Are you telling me that i became batman’s therapist for NOTHING????

Jason, mid monologue: what

Tim: *rips mask and cape off* DO U KNOW HOW HARD I WORKED TO KEEP THAT MAN FROM SELF-DESTRUCTING??? AND U WERE ALIVE THE WHOLE GODDAMN TIME????

Jason: uhm-

Tim: no FUCK U! take robin im going to take a fucking nap