#anyways. syscourse is dumb

[dyketubbo]

girl help my silly post that got some attention not only has a typo but has also found its way on a blog of someone whose ideologies i fundamentally disagree with

[system-of-a-feather]

Ignoring the discourse, I just wanted to ramble on parts language and our feelings to it as someone who mainly uses it - but honestly "parts" is our preferred term by a long way save for alter when we are talking about things in a more clinical sense.

Personally for us, headmate, sysmate, and similar "roommate" kind of terms actually feel diminishing to the dynamic we have with one another. Headmate and similar terms draw parallels to roommates housemates, aka someone you share a space with - and I totally understand the draw to those terms for those that like to emphasize the individuality of the parts, but personally to call our relationship to one another something similar to people who just share a body / brain / mind / system etc really feels a bit... downplaying the importance we have to one another and the unique dynamic that comes from being parts of a whole.

XIV, Ray, Lucille, Aderis, all the parts in our system feel far more intimate, personal, and tighter bonds than anything like a housemate or a roommate or "someone I am sharing X with" could possibly reach. By nature we all compliment each other and were literally created to support, bolster, accentuate, and cover for one another.

/Separate people in different bodies are not so genuinely and thoroughly made to exist in synergy with one another the same way alters and parts are. Separate people in different bodies, no matter how close and how far back they go, are never going to be as deeply tied with one another the same way parts are / can be - and if they DO - 9/10 times it is likely super codependent and unhealthy where as with alters that tends to be an ideal.

Of course this depends on how you define "separate people" and all so its not a "well I am RIGHT" cause its how we perceive things and the main point in our perception is that to draw parallels to existences of two 'separate people' sharing a space together honestly just... extremely downplays how intrinsically made for one another we are. My relationship with my parts goes deeper than any two people who share a space could ever go because we were literally MADE for one another. It's impossible to compliment me and support me more than the parts in my system because they ARE LITERALLY my other halves.

So headmate and sysmate just.... always feel really downplaying to what we are.

Alters we are okay and chill with, but it honestly feels both sensationalized and very.... artificial for a lack of better words. Using the word "alter" tends to draw my mind to the more fictional media depictions OR solely to minimizing parts to the clinical expression to which it feels a bit dehumanizing - so unless its for convenient shared language or for clinical / just factual references - we tend to prefer parts.

Parts on the other hand really acknowledges just how intrinsically connected and made for one another we are. We really don't think it diminishes our individuality at all (though that might just be because we are decently far in our healing journey that we can simultaneously hold the idea of 'we are parts of a whole' and 'we are valid as individuals with our experiences and can exist and acknowledge ourselves and one another like individuals' very easily together at the same time) or imply anything about us being broken or shattered or anything.

If anything, parts language reminds me that there IS others out there that are there to fill in the gaps in life that I can't do. It reminds me that I am not in this alone and that I'm not SUPPOSED to be in this alone. I am a whole person, but I am not the whole picture and I don't have to try to be the whole picture because one puzzle piece while beautiful on its own - often works many times better when connected with the others.

I dunno, parts language is just a really really positive and healing thing for us. We love it and while we understand it not being for everyone, it means A LOT to us and really nothing negative.

My parts are made FOR me just as I am made FOR my parts. We are literally MADE for one another because we are PARTS of a whole that are MEANT to work with one another and I think that is really beautiful honestly.

[relaxxattack]

wait are you anti endo :((

i had to look up this word to make sure i knew what you meant because for some reason i mixed this up with emeto and thought you were asking me if i was anti vomiting??? 😭

anyway no

[tidal-chaos]

the online system community sucks so bad lmao

[fixing-bad-posts]

concerning your last ask post, I have a maybe stupid question 😭

so like, I don’t know a lot about systems or like DID or anything like that, but I’ve always heard that endo systems are invalid cuz like… they form without trauma I think??? Anyways I’m just confused cuz I don’t know a lot anhsjfvdidhdi

anyway sorry this so probably a dumb ask

or you could’ve been talking about a completely different kind of endo system idk :’D

hey anon :) don’t worry, it’s not a stupid question.

i’m a singlet so—personally—i’m not comfortable giving my opinion on ‘syscourse’. from my understanding, the issue of endogenic systems is a contentious and personal one that i’m not equipped to understand the nuances of. i don’t feel that i’m the person to ask about this, nor am i the person to preach about it.

however, i do stand by what i said in that previous ask re: anti-harassment. regardless of your stance on literally anything, i’ll always commend people making shitty blackout poetry instead of harassing others and/or leaving needlessly combative additions on posts you disagree with. and i’ll always be a proponent of blocking people you disagree with instead of engaging with them/harassing them—this praxis (methinks) saves everyone a lot of grief.

i hope this makes sense, and if you’re curious about DID issues, i’d recommend making an earnest and respectful effort to befriend the people whom these issues affect.

my best 💙

[sysmedsaresexist]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is Mod Quill, but this is on behalf of a mutual friend of mine and Mod Dude's. Someone we care about a lot, and someone I'm not even going to fucking name here, because I am so fucking done with my friend suffering. Besides. You're going to know who it is if you have a lick of syscourse knowledge. I just hope they know what this might bring. If you're reading this, hon -- maybe just... delete your blogs and get out of syscourse. Make something new for yourself. Trust me, I've done that plenty of times.

Anyways.

@sophieinwonderland

Let's have a chat. Okay? I mean this completely, 1000 percent genuinely. I want to talk to you. WE want to talk to you. And we want to understand what the hell is going on with you.

Context: A friend of ours is in the hospital. This friend is in the hospital... likely because of you. Well, somewhat -- I'm not here to convince you that you, personally, are at fault for someone else's actions. You did not personally give them whatever implement of choice they used to nearly off themselves. But you have got to see that what you're doing -- what you've done for a very, very long time, causes people a lot of harm. And you have acknowledged it. Repeatedly.

You know that you do. You know you're hurting people. And you've shown constantly on your blog that you're okay with that.

This isn't the first time someone has been hospitalized after you took grievance with their tumblr blog. This is the second time someone has notably been hospitalized after interactions with you, and far from the last time someone's harmed themselves over you. I should know -- I'm a user who tried so desperately not to self harm, but you are the person who brought me to that point, many moons ago in a fit of hell and despair.

Don't worry, I'm all good -- it was barely anything. But it still stings emotionally, to this day.

The user in question who's currently hospitalized is not, and has not been stable, for a very long time. They're someone I hold dear, but I think we can all admit that people with DID sometimes struggle greatly with making really dumb choices. They've made a lot. This isn't the first time they've been in the hospital.

But Dude made a promise to them when it seemed like things were going to hell this time around, something to try and encourage things to go the right way.

Your named was tossed out too. Because of course it was. Like it or not, Sophie, you are 100% the biggest syscourser on Tumblr. You post the most and have the most followers. You are syscourse. And Dude's promise was to take syscourse down.

... But I don't think anyone in this situation really understands what that means.

Sophie, you are a person. Not a blog. Not a stance. Not a slogan, or a preacher, or whatever conspiracy you're trying to lean into next to explain away the angry actions you've shown more and more lately, to somehow explain why it's okay to say the things you've been saying, even when it sometimes, just maybe, seems like... you just don't want to.

As people may know, a (from my perspective, horrifically written, incredibly inaccurate, and only harmful) callout post for Sophie was recently posted to syscourse. What people don't know is that I, Mod Quill, was approached to help write it. Mod Dude was involved in the callout post as well, though to what extent I don't know.

I flat out refused to work on it. And that's because I knew exactly what would happen. I knew my friend would be hurt, or maybe even hospitalized over this. I knew that syscourse -- that Sophie -- would drive someone over the edge again. I knew that the document -- filled with inaccuracies and vaguities and nothingburgers to the max -- would be easy for Sophie to pick apart, easy to dismantle, and it would all start with debunking so much of the very real pain and suffering my friend has gone through.

And yeah.

I was right. Go figure. Maybe I should've done more, my brain inevitably says, I need to help everyone, I should've fought harder to prevent this... Dumbass brain.

Sigh.

Dude edit/addition: I knew the doc was coming, and while I won't say that I was supportive of it going out (I made the owner sit on it for several weeks), I made no effort to stop it. Having made my own callouts on sophie (and Quill, you have, too), I understood the need, and the positives and negatives. I knew Sophie could handle it. I was approached to read and check it, as my posts had been used in it. I even offered to help add to it, though... I ended up being completely unable to. I still can't actually remember anything in the doc. I'm doubting if I actually read it because it seems I retained nothing from it. This likely stems from the fact that I have been in contact with Sophie for several weeks now, getting to know her. I'm so incredibly conflicted on this topic that I chose to stay out of it publicly from start to finish, without comment or publicity. For the first time since I started my blog, I'm not feuding with anyone, I'm having such amazing conversations with people, I feel like I'm making more of a difference than ever before. Certain people have left me alone as I stayed under the drama radar.

I'm so tired of being angry...

My thoughts on the doc and sophie are complicated. I'm sorry to anyone that was hurt through my uncertainty. Instead of helping with the doc, we talked about life, experiences, medicalization, and I was... so happy. I don't think that I really thought beyond... "I wish I had spoken to some of these people sooner."

It's important to note that I don't blame the doc or author for any of this.

Syscourse, as a whole, does not address any sort of recovery, or help, or even just acknowledgement of the issues we are facing, as human beings, as systems, as people on this earth. It is just slinging words at each other with varying degrees of value. And I'll be the first to admit that I have relished that battleground. I have loved the feeling that I might be able to throw the right words or the right punches and get someone to either change, or deactivate. I've also wrestled with those feelings, tried to explain them away, mirroring what I see on Sophie's blog constantly.

But as more and more time goes on and I grow up and I see the damage that's done to me and my friends, I have grown to absolutely despise this place. I try my best to spread what joy I can. I also know it's really not enough.

Sophie, I have sent you, if I had to hazard a guess, at least 10 anons this past year, all of them variations on themes. Either positivity, begging you to take a break, or explaining to you in excruciating detail how I know you are hurting people, and why that hurts so badly. And... each and every single one of those have been met with dismissal. With that godforsaken shrug emoji that convinced me for years that you just... did not care, at all, about other people.

And this isn't just you. I know I'm coming at you, but that's because you are the biggest source of Syscourse Grief(tm) for this particular friend. But lord knows people get enemies here, that's just par for the course. So, this goes for everyone.

Learn to fucking care about each other, for fucks sakes.

God, this really is a ramble. I thank everyone who's bearing with me.

For syscourse in general: Stop. Just... stop. For those who are considering it, just stop for a bit, and witness. Watch. See what happens. Because the ones who are obstinate -- primarily the overly aggressive anti-endos and pro-endos -- will fling their vitriol at each other. It will just get worse and worse, and you can witness syscourse eat itself alive.

For my friend in the hospital: I've already given you some advice, but genuinely, I really, really hope you take care of yourself. I pray that, when you get back, you maybe set syscourse aside. At most, discord is there, and that seems to at least be tamer. But you are young. You have so much future ahead, and coming from someone who is (unfortunately seen as) an older system, I can promise you that it gets beter.

For Dude: GO TAKE A FUCKING BREAK. You are recently retraumatized, recently through a severe surgery, and you are out here promising shit like "I'll burn syscourse to the ground for you"??? Play a fun game and pay attention to your fucking partners, take a fucking break and take care of yourself. Syscourse will wait for you. People will come and people will go, and it doesn't fucking matter. Your life is what matters and I'm so fucking scared watching you obsess over this one, small aspect of it. I'm so relieved you went to that fun pokemon blog. You aren't alone, you are so loved, and don't let this toxic ass place make you forget that.

And Sophie.

I'm going to give Dude a link to send to you. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. You don't even need to acknowledge this if you don't want to. But I'm swinging the door open and offering the olive branch. I know you don't use Discord much, but for gods sake, it's better than Tumblr DMs, and we both know how Tumblr is a mess.

I really hope you'll take me up on it.

And for everyone else.

Wait till you see what happens next.

Edit from Mod Quill: Well, what's next is evidently a need for clarification and yet another callout post. Hello, callout-post author. Thank you for your clarifications. Notably, I attempted to keep your URL out of this, for those who didn't know.

Anyways, for the fullest disclosure and context: I was approached by Mod Dude, who asked if I wanted to participate in "Sophie Drama, Anonymously." I agreed, though I'll admit I was hesitant due to my particular issues with that user. I was then added to a group chat involving an enormous callout post. Notably, it should be mentioned, callout posts are a major trigger of ours that we are still working on overcoming.

I clicked the document and saw it was a mess of grammar mistakes, poor formatting, and impossible for me to read without trembling. But given that I already have an intense distaste for the user who posted it, I wasn't about to tell them more personal details about myself, and I did not want to communicate with them any further due to my own fear of the instability of all those involved. I told them I disliked the callout post due to harassment that it would cause, that I feel Sophie is a person, and that they had better have contacted the user who was hurt -- who is once again revealed in the callout, unfortunately.

I tried to laugh it off and move on, and take care of my mental health. That's what I was lamenting above; the fact that I didn't say more. I felt bad that I didn't allow myself to damage my mental health further to craft a callout post -- something I have tried desperately to avoid since the one I made the mistake of writing years ago about the very user you wrote this callout post about -- and something I get roped into constantly.

I privately read the rest of the document after it had been posted in full, as I still have access to it and it is a publicly posted document. It was filled with things that I found to be either nothing important in particular (things that have already been discussed numerous times) or things that would just be inflammatory (i.e. the OAS sections). I talked with a friend on Discord about the document, to which we both agreed it was bad.

To the OP of the document: I didn't say any of this at the time because, as I said, I felt uneasy and could not be in that group chat. I explicitly said I would not be touching "it" (the group chat). I was taking care of my mental health.

I refused to work on it because, based on my past experiences and triggers, which I do not owe you and still alluded to anyways in my conversations with you, I knew it would end poorly. I tried my best to sway you in the moment, but I was not able to do so because of my own mental health.

So, yes, to clarify: My grievances with the document were not made known to the one who posted it, whom I never mentioned in the original post. I do not condemn the poster of the document. I was simply making my feelings about callout posts known. What is above is not a condemnation of the callout writer, nor a comment on them at all. I genuinely did not want the point of this post to be lost due to callout-post drama.

So let me reiterate the important part of all of this.

This post was about the state of syscourse and how people do not approach syscourse in a good way. It is constantly slinging hate at people, which is never justified.

Learn to fucking care about each other, for fucks sakes.

---

Mod dude, here...

I want to add something to this, but I don't know what. I mean, Quill said it all, quite well.

Hurt people... Hurt other people.

I've made the attempt, over the last year or so, to actually talk to some of the bigger names in syscourse, the ones usually active in the tags, endos and antis alike.

It reinforced that... we're all just fucking people, trying to get by.

Antis, have you even tried to empathize with the community you attack so quickly and cruelly? Imagine if people said those things to you or about CDD systems. Have you, personally, witnessed the things you claim are happening? Because I've been here a lot longer, and it seems you're making shit up. Consider that you should stop parroting everything you hear and stick to what you're actually seeing with your own eyes.

Endos, please don't forget that these are severely traumatized individuals that have probably never even been to therapy yet. If you're not yet, maybe you should get into therapy-- it doesn't automatically mean there's anything wrong, but everyone could use someone to talk to, and seeing what it's like could be really beneficial to understanding the other side and getting an unbiased view of your own behavior and beliefs.

These are real fucking people that are ending up in the hospital.

Quill, the rest of my mods, and I are real fucking people behind these screens.

Sophie is a real person. They just got a new dish washer that they saw on Circ's blog, I missed it, but she linked it to me, and now I'm looking at it. She's going to let me know how it works.

And you know what? This little countertop dishwasher feels a hell of a lot more real and important than anything in syscourse.

As Quill mentioned, I just went through a major surgery. I'm learning that...

I'll probably never be able to walk properly again. My life is forever changed, and I'm really struggling.

My cat just... passed. Feel free to go like that post, it would mean a lot to me.

None of you know that. The people who leaked my main and smeared my wonderful name don't know that.

Sophie didn't know that the last time we fought each other.

My friend didn't know that when I promised him I would bring syscourse down.

Maybe bringing it down isn't the answer.

Maybe just reminding you all that we're all people behind the screen is enough.

Fucking TALK to each other.

Make an attempt to learn and understand.

Talk about things that actually matter.

Grow the FUCK up.

Reblog to share a hug, because that's more worthwhile.

And most importantly.

Please keep our friend in mind while they're in the hospital.

Syscourse community, endos and antis, this is one of our own. A person you've likely interacted with before, that you've seen around.

We exist in this small bubble, all together. Whether we like it or not.

[number1-syscourse-blog]

Asks are now open guys I'm so dumb I had them turned off 😭😭😭

Anyways uhh ask me questions abt my system or questions about syscourse or in general anythin related to dissociative disorders, I <3 getting those kinda things so don't feel shy to submit sumthin

[thefishbowlcollective]

🎏 hello welcome to the aquarium :3

Ꮚ . . hello ! we are the fishbowl collective ! we're not entirely sure what kind of system we are, we're still figuring it all out. theres currently 24 of us, but the number is sure to grow. ^.^

Ꮚ . . we like a lot of video games, we draw Often, and ummm we'll maybe post about that kinda stuff! maybe! :3 theres a lot that we like, its just ummm hard to remember everything. :p

Ꮚ . . we'll probably make intros for a few of our alters, maybe if we're specifically asked, but for now, heres some information about our host!

hero! he/him (⭐)

the one who's probably gonna be doing the most for the blog.. 16 years old, trans male, bisexual, too silly for his own good.. :3

Ꮚ . . you'll probably find alter names on the tags of a post if someone specific reblogged/posted it. here are some tags we'll be using for our posts.

ଓ , , #glub glub : just talkin about whatever... blah blah blah!

ଓ , , #fish food : things we rlly like/wanna save :3

ଓ , , #water colors : system art !

ଓ , , #fish answers : answering asks :p

ଓ , , #empty bowl : non sys related stuff

Ꮚ . . dni list :3 we'll probably just block if we find u annoying anyway, this is more just letting people know we r cool!

ଓ , , basic dni criteria you know the drill

ଓ , , endos, pro endo, idk dude that shit sounds sooo dumb n exhausting so staaayy awaaayy

ଓ , , pro israel / zionists eewww

ଓ , , proshippers / comshippers whatever u freaks call yourselves idc

ଓ , , bitches who only talk about discourse (syscourse, lgbtcourse etc) or whatever I DONT FUCKING CAAAAREE

(more will be added if necessary)

🎏 goodbye! we hope you have fun watching us yap and yap forever and ever!

[circular-bircular]

hello, sorry if this question is weird, I've been thinking about it for a while. why do a lot of anti endos seem to think that endos appropriate a disorder, if systemhood is not the main part of CDDs anyway? I feel like it's diluting dissociative symptoms to focus only on "alter disorder"

I'm more disabled as a DID system by PTSD symptoms, amnesia, DP/DR, and maladaptive personality features than I am by the alters themselves, so... I really don't get why is that? as long as endos don't claim to have an endogenic CDD (which most of them aren't anymore?) I think it's fine to say that plurality/multiplicity by itself is not the disabling part of a CDD

Mm, hey there. Sorry for the wait hon.

Not a weird question at all -- it's definitely confusing. Genuinely, I think a lot of anti-endos think that endogenic systems are "appropriating a disorder" (which I already think is weird language to use, but we use what we got I suppose) because of the language being shared between communities.

Like, let's look:

Alters (which in DID is a symptom of trauma) VS Alters (which can vary between walk-ins, created alters, there-since-birth, IFS parts, a-voice-i-heard-once, imaginary friends, etc)

DP/DR (the feeling that you don't exist, or that the reality around you doesn't exist) VS "immersion in innerworld" and delineating between Innerworld and "Meatspace"

Amnesia (not recalling events in some way, shape, or form) VS... okay, yeah, no a LOT of people in endogenic spaces I've been in talk about the amnesia they experience. Emotional amnesia exists, y'all.

That's just a few.

At the end of the day, though, I think it's fucking stupid to say that endogenic systems are "appropriating a disorder" because no, the fuck, they are not. I understand where the comparison comes from, I really do, but it's fucking dumb as shit. One, endogenic systems, by and large, have already ruled out DID. Like with how much syscourse there is, it's not like they HAVEN'T looked at DID. They kinda are pretty set on shit by the time you reach them, anti-endos. Second, even if they're in Major DID Denial (which does happen), that's not appropriation. That's just being wrong.

And lastly...

Yeah. What you said. Every single fucker talking about endogenic systems appropriating DID focuses on the alter part, which just boils down the disorder to the alter part. FFS anti-endos, at least use the clarity of language, "they're appropriating the language used to discuss my disorder" or "they're appropriating a symptom of my disorder."

That's still wrong but at least it makes someone more sense.

[oopsallsyscourse]

It's actually so cringe how you have an entire blog dedicated to syscourse that you actually spend time running and maintaining lmfao do you like not have a job or friends or any hobbies. Get a life, none of this stuff matters once you log off Tumblr dude 💀💀💀 I promise when you grow up you'll want to kick your current day self in the shins for being such a dumb ass

This is one of my many hobbies. I actually really enjoy talking about syscourse and take breaks often when it doesn't feel great.

Anyway the real reason I even bothered answering this ask. Look at this shit!

[squidcourse]

I have so many people blocked that whenever I go look in the syscourse tags (well, technically, I just look up "syscourse" cause sometimes it's funny seeing what people label as syscourse dni. obviously, I dont violate dni or other stuff, but I still come across it, which isn't a crime). What was I saying? Oh yeah. It's really funny cause I'll scroll thru, and there's a million people getting pissed about something (disclaimer, this isn't about any specific drama) and I don't see the original posts cause I already blocked them. Cause a lot of dumb bitches just don't stop. Anyways, very rarely is there drama started by someone I haven't blocked yet, but noobies rarely last long if they start off with something controversial.

[system-of-a-feather]

Unfollow Us Now Challenge

Not actually trying to make you unfollow or anything but just like, putting out our controversial takes that are generally consistent through the system and/or I specifically as a part have no patience for and because I have no patience for it, no one in this system can cause I'm Like That as a part.

Anyways I'm gonna sit here and think of the shit that is 'controversial' about us.

White people are inherently problematic until proven otherwise (Not a hard rule, but general perspective of mine)

"Western Tulpamancy" is cultural appropriation (Not Up For Debate)

We will always reblog the "reblog to explode a TERF" button

We don't believe in heavily policing labels as long as they are in good faith

We do not give two shits about endos / endodiscourse

We half jokingly say we "kin" things

We do not believe in narcissistic abuse and adjacent shit

We are a raging commie (technically "we" aren't, technically only I am, but I'm converting Riku and Im a mega raging commie)

We hate p*dophiles and zoophiles (can't believe this is a 'controversial' topic)

We will judge you if you buy a bred parrot for any reason other than saving it

We are Luciferian / Satanist in philosophy and we really dislike Christianity / Catholicism / Mormonism / Adjacent Religions

We will look at you in extreme judgement if you are shipping incest / pedophilia / etc - especially unapologetically

We support omegaverse and actually think personally it is very gender friendly

We have Cluster B traits - very likely ASPD and NPD

We think syscourse and online discourse in general is dumb

We think the psychiatric system is broken

We think the prison system is broken

We think the medical system is less broken but broken

I hate America with a passion. Other parts not as much but I do.

We are pro legally authorized conservation managed / conscious hunting

We probably would save a bird over a child any day (not a serious one, but we are low empathy to people and love our birds)

We unfortunately live in America, its cool if you wanna unfollow us cause of that, I would too

We are queer and trans ooooh spicey

We are ALSO Asian oooooh bigots begone

We don't know or enough on SW discourse / policy and therefore have no opinion and leave that discussion to people more engaged and dedicated and involved in the pragmatics of that

We think Attack on Titan is HELLA problematic, but Riku very much loves the sound track and art style

Harry Potter just sucks AND is problematic like why do people still engage with it (not actually a huge deal mainly putting this as a joke)

We don't think wild animals should be kept as a pet

We are mild to moderate jocks and love our martial arts

We 100% believe that cats should be kept indoors and heavily judge those that let their cats be let outdoors unsupervised and unleashed

We don't really like most fruits

We are likely aiming for final fusion

If you celebrate Lunar New Year but aren't of a person of the culture and aren't invited by a person of the culture, then we will judge you

We "believe" in Climate Change

We eat meat

Annnnd I can't think of any more. Will update next time I sit down of things people might be upset about.

-XIV

[x-other-souled-x]

Syscourse on this website is so fucking stupid but I can't look away, its entertaining as much as it is frustrating.

Yall are so fucking stupid, anyone can talk shit about anyone, anyone can say whatever they want, talk shit get hit, whatever.

Its not a "boundary" for others to talk freely, if you don't want to associate with people then dont. Block them. Move on. Stop flinging hatred to others.

And anyway someone blocking you isn't you winning an argument.

If you get blocked its more likely it's because you're annoying or a pest or keep saying the same shit over and over and expecting people yo just give up and say "you were right all along, I renounce my personal expereinces to you, oh wise tumblr user who is an expert on everything life has to offer! Woe was I to ever beleive I could possibly have an opinion or life expereince different from anyone else, I had forgotten we all must suffer in exactly the same ways!"

Yall REFUSE to take your safety and health into your OWN HANDS and use the fucking block button and live comfortably in your little circle jerk bubbles and then COMPLAIN about it. Shut the fuck up whiney little kids.

One day when you grow up you're gonna realize none of this fucking matters. You'll get the care you need if you fight for it and it's not fucking endos online or even genuine fakers using up ""resources"" (guys fakers don't go to the doctor, duh, no I'm not arguing that bc even if they do they don't last long OR if they do then they have something ELSE seriously wrong they need treatment for, ppl don't just pay thousands of dollars for FUNSIES omg.)

It's not them, its the prohibitive nature of healthcare systems around the world who don't give a shit about you as far as your wallet goes.

Why don't you focus your fight on the actual target, the ableist and restrictive nature of much of healthcare around the world. What ever happened to mad pride? Why are yall fighting your siblings like this? It's stupid.

Here I'll help you out, go from here, learn a little.

Go outside make friends who aren't entrenched in online discourse and life your fucking life. Touch grass. Choose better battles and stop wasting your time making your PEERS lives miserable for no other reason than you need to feel good about yourself.

We can help each other if we dont just keep tearing each other down for no reason.

No instead yall just bitch and complain and whine and ATTACK OTHERS over stupid shit like wether or not someone can use an anime character's name if they introjected said anime character. Or the mere existence of people different than you. Fucking inane behaviour. Get a better hobby for fucking real.

I stick my head in from time to time because I think it's funny to see a bunch of kids whine about things that they can step away from at any moment. Except it makes me sad to see yall waste your time making dedicated syscourse blogs and other dumb bullshit youre wasting your time on. You're not changing minds, you're fighting for grains of rice on the dirt floor.

And yes actually you CAN step away from the internet at any moment and do something else with your life. Even if you're chronically bedridden, read a book, write a story, draw a picture, watch some movies, play with dolls, whatever, just take a fucking break.

I'm turning off reblogs and blocking anyone who screenshots this to argue**. Seriously, get a better hobby. Live your damn life. The opinion of a STRANGER ONLINE shouldn't make you shake and get so heated that you can't think of anything else. L

You WOULD feed the trolls and you do.

(**with one exception, if you want to agrue about the prohibitive costs of health care and provide resources that dont cost thousands, because it would actually help people)

[solxrsys]

This is really random but I just wanted to say I really like your account and posts, I don’t know if that’s weird to say but yknow

Anyways that’s all have a nice day 🫡

thanks anon!! i try to keep shit lighthearted on here cus syscourse don’t matter, but i’m glad that someone likes my dumb posts LMAO

[mouserdiscourse]

Hi there, singlet looking in, what are some good sources on this sorta stuff?

Short answer:

I don't have 'em, sorry! I'm the "source: trust me" guy; my primary focus on this blog is pointing at arguments that I think are poorly constructed and saying "Hey, look at how poorly constructed this argument is." It's hard to cite a source for that in a non-bitchy manner: people usually don't appreciate being sent articles about critical thinking during a debate (I have learned this from experience).

This isn't really an... academic venture for me. If I'm completely honest, the syscourse tag is my personal equivalent of an r/HobbyDrama thread, albeit a particularly despair-inducing one. I try to be quite open about this.

Long answer that STILL ends in "nothing here, sorry":

NOT the syscourse tag! Read about specific communities that interest you, read about the history of those communities, or read medical literature about dissociative disorders if that's what you're looking for. Try not to let this strange microcosm of internet discourse influence how you view the subjects of the primary "syscourse" debate: they're not inherently oppositional. They have different, sometimes interwoven histories.

If you're looking into this stuff out of pure, self-motivated interest, of course feel free but proceed with caution. Don't let yourself get caught up in the big emotions that fly around in here, and don't use it as a resource. Look at the syscourse tag like you would a strange bug under a magnifying glass, and maintain a level of... clinical distance, if you can. Actually read the studies that people link to decide if they actually say what they said they said. It never says what they said it said...

If you're looking into this stuff for the sake of a plural friend (or someone otherwise relevant to this conversation) then I advise even more caution. If they weren't the one to bring it up, I'd recommend foregoing syscourse entirely and just reading about the specific type of system your friend is (DID/etc? soulbonders? etc.) to familiarize yourself with the culture of that particular label.

Making the risky move of a LGBT comparison here, but looking at syscourse to gather information about a friend's identity is like hearing someone just came out as trans and immediately Googling "the trans debate". Maybe use some other keywords, man. :(

If you're looking into this at the behest of someone else, guard yourself against their bias. There's a lot of trauma in this discussion, for a lot of people. It's important to respect your friend's experience, but not to let their personal trauma convince you to write off an entire community of largely unrelated people.

It IS important to note that the people who just say "no that's fake trauma is the ONLY WAY ANY OF THIS CAN HAPPEN" are in the minority these days, and are oftentimes pushed out by members of both "sides" of the debate. This is because these people are "clowns", phrased more charitably as "far too entrenched in their flawed belief system to bother trying to convince". Block them and move on. Harassing people is dumb. Cringe, even.

You're more likely to see people saying "they're real I just don't want them around me" which is... a step up. I'd say that's an improvement. Not the kindest thing to say, but. It's important to recognize growth. (I partially jest, here: I do sympathize with reasons many other traumagenic/CDD-having systems want separate spaces from endogenic systems, and I have similar preferences depending on what mood I'm in. However, a lot of you people are really mean about it. Watch out for that!)

Anyway, if this is a copy-pasted question sent to multiple users, I assume you'll get more of what you're looking for from one of them. I'm not comfortable directly linking to anyone whose resources I personally use because I'm not exactly sure what my personal reputation is. I'm not particularly active, but when I am my posts are a bit contentious.

If you meant information about plurality and dissociative disorders in general, not just related to syscourse topics, well... you messaged the wrong blog, sorry. I'd find someone who's made their platform one of educating people, rather than being a sanctimonious cunt for personal enjoyment like myself. Good luck out there!

[sysmedsaresexist]

hey sorry, you seem like you know the answer

so I'm like incredibly confused by syscourse and have no idea which side to take (I'm doing my research fr it's just very difficult) and there's so many blogs with anti/pro dni and idk if I can interact with them or not since I'm not on either side, I don't want to make a mistake TT

Friendo, choose the side of kindness, understanding, and knowledge

You can be pro endo and still be anti misinformation (which apparently just makes you anti endo, anyways, but don't let that get you down! 🌟 )

There's a lot of dumb, verifiably incorrect information on both sides

Choose the side that tries to understand where people are coming from and what they're trying to express about themselves with limited language available to them

Choose the side that tries to make both sides of the conversation available to everyone, so they can see all the facts being presented and examine the information for themselves

Choose the side that uses up-to-date information that actually supports their claims

Choose the side that grows as they learn more about both communities

Choose the side that just wants to correct misinformation, not argue about self perception

And finally, choose the side that isn't racist (UwU 🌸)

That side is usually neither pro nor anti endo

I've chosen to call my side 🌟 SYSCOURSE ENRAGED 🌟

What are you all calling your side?

On a less positive note--

If you feel you're pro or anti endo enough to follow and interact with a blog, you probably are and will most likely enjoy their content-- otherwise you wouldn't be thinking of following

Anyone who's going to go through and comb through the rest of your blog investigating who else you're interacting with to then ask you to unfollow or blocks you, isn't worth your time, because they don't want to see both sides and though they might have a good post or two, they're usually reblogs from better people and the rest of their content is probably shit since it's limited to one side

If a post is good, it's good

Interact and show support

Let them hate