#discourse and discussion (fanfiction)

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

[001x456]

“ships should at least make sense.” no. ships can make sense, sure. but they’re just fictional characters we play with for fun. they’re fantasies, not a fucking thesis paper. so no, they don’t always have to make sense. they just have to make you happy (or horny).

let people enjoy (fictional) things however they want to enjoy.

[bebx]

[frontmansdefender]

shaming and making fun of people for still engaging in fandom activities once they reach a certain age is so embarrassing because why are you giving yourself an expiration date of time you have fun? why are you not-so-indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age? or do you really believe you have to stop engaging in fandom activities and having fun once you turn (x)? do you not think you will, what, live that long and turn that age too? do you think fun will suddenly stop for you and life will all of a sudden lose its meaning once you reach a certain age? how sad to be giving yourself an hourglass and just waiting for your time of having fun to run out.

adults can and should engage in fandom activities if it's what makes them happy.

adults can and should continue doing whatever they like doing as teenagers if it's what makes them happy.

age is just... part of life. it's a part of me and it's a part of you. shaming people for something you will have to go through (unless you don't think you will live that long) is such a loser behavior. indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age isn't the flex you think it is. it doesn't make you look "cool and edgy", it makes you look miserable.

[curiositysavesthecat]

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[questions-about-blorbos]

people who ship a ship that's unhealthy, toxic and fucked up and do not shy away from the fact their ship is unhealthy, toxic and fucked up by making them act all "lovey dovey" toward each other, or watering down the severity of the things that canonically make their ship a fucked up ship, in fanfics — and so they embrace the fact that their ship is fucked up, but that's the thing that makes their ship so hot, sexy, complex and fascinating — I am declaring my undying love and loyalty to you

[bisexual-king-icon-tonystark]

the most devastating thing a ficwriter can do is delete their fic. i make a desperate appeal to all ficwriters, please, even if you think your work is shit, leave it on fanfic sites anyway. any piece of your work that you have done is extremely valuable and valid.

[cowboylikeyouu]

saw a tiktok today complaining about podfics. the video itself was fine and more funny than anything, but the comments were brutal, and it genuinely made me want to cry. you're telling me there are people contributing to fandom & making it more accessible by recording their favorite fics, editing for hours, making covers for it, inserting music & background noises, and your only reaction to that is to be a whiny bitch in a tiktok comment section and comment things like:

"podfics are ASS"

"i hate podfics so much GET AWAY FROM ME"

"those belong on fucking youtube, not ao3"

"yeah well sadly only 1 in 100 podfics is good!"

"i see, i'm in the right fandoms bc there aren't podfics"

?????? i will never understand how people can carry so much negativity towards something so harmless & amazing. why is it impossible for some people to appreciate the work behind something & be happy for the people who can enjoy it, instead of calling a whole genre of fanwork trash just bc THEY don't like it??

the worst thing? some people in that comment section were like "oh, i was thinking about recording my fics, but after seeing this comment section? yeah i won't bother."

and that's just so, so sad. i'm not even that into podfics, not really my cup of tea, but i admire everyone who records fics in their freetime and i appreciate you guys so much. don't get discouraged from doing something you enjoy - that at least one other person will enjoy as well - just because some whiny teens on tiktok can't use the "exclude" button correctly <3

podfics are just as great a contribution to fandom as everything else and if people can't see that: their loss.

[mollygrass]

Welp, I just got done tearing up an anti on my page who thought it was sweet. Lemme say this and yall listen clearly. Stop pressing people cause they wanna write Remmick x reader fanfics. Some of yall are so insufferable it makes my tummy ache. Like someone literally was in MY COMMENTS hounding me cause I decided to crack a joke about a Remmick fanfic I wrote. Like I’m so sick of people being mad cause we like something that they don’t.

“You guys are missing the point of the movie.”

“Why are there so many Remmick fanfics?”

Like…..one everyone knows the meaning of the movie. Two, people like Remmick!!! What’s wrong with that??? Why is it so bad that we like a fine ass white man??? I understand calling out people who wrote weird things like plantation daughter or kkk member, but people who simply like Remmick getting harassed is crazy!!! I’m talking this girl literally tagged me in a whole separate post on her page FIRST. Then got mad when I tagged her back clocking her!!

This is why I barely associate with fandom spaces now because people lack fandom etiquette. God forbid you like something else that they deem bad when it’s not even bad. I’m so sick and tired of this nonsense.

At this point I’m just gonna block people cause I’m drained. I’m sick of yall think pieces and I’m sick of the harassment. Touch grass and stop policing people online, you’re a grown ass adult btw…get a job and if you’re so free with extra time on your hands get another one because you need it!!

Now if anyone else wants that smoke I got it and it will be the block button—congratulations you will be on the block party with all the other obsessed weirdo haters if so!!💁🏾‍♀️

[srslylini]

ok let me turn this shipping discourse stuff on its head. We always see the "shipping is getting destroyed," notion. "By people saying you can't ship those people because this and that"

Yeah but did we pause and think that it's also getting destroyed because people, who ship certain characters, seemingly can't do shipping without acting like it just has to be canon anymore? To the point where they viciously attack anyone who says "uhm actually cool that you ship it, it isn't canon, though"

I promise you, you don't have to find ten thousand unrelated reasons and ways to ship people and you also don't need to make up some weird shit for it to happen. Ship your ship and let others not ship it. Stop fighting over how "canon" it actually is. Especially when it isn't and turns out to not be canon by the end of the media you consume and ship it in.

It just isn't canon, you are also destroying the fandom experience by being a weird little shit about that. That also translates in how the canon relationship then gets hated on/treated. I beg you to ship your ship in peace and leave the other stuff alone.

There is absolutely no need to hate another (canon) ship and act like it sucks (which happens I know ships can suck, but not always, be so for real) or even be misogynistic as a result of this. Just ship your non canon ship in peace and let others do the same.

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

fanfic writing culture isn’t “oh dang! I wanted to write about this prompt with this character but someone else already wrote it, so now I can’t”.

fanfic writing culture is always “two cakes is better than one. the more the merrier. there can ever be enough fics of this character with this prompt!”

[001x456]

it’s unfortunate that (some) people in fandom spaces are starting to get too comfortable complaining and being rude to writers and artists who create contents they personally don’t like (“why are you making this character a top when he’s obviously a bottom? omg do you even understand his character?” “I’m so sick of seeing fan art and fanfic where this character is portrayed as a sadist when he’s actually misunderstood in my opinions, therefore anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and should be shamed” just to name a few I’ve seen) instead of curating their own fandom experiences by engaging only with contents they do like.

you want more fics where (x) is written in this specific way? either write one yourself or politely expressing your opinion about how you hope there will be more fics where (x) is written in this specific way instead of making fandom a toxic place by being rude to writers and artists who dare make contents that are not to your Personal Liking.

if the universe does not revolve around you, strangers and fandom spaces don’t have to cater exclusively to your personal preferences either.

to all my beloved writers and artists, write whatever you want, draw whatever you want. portray that character in whichever way you want to portray. I hope you have fun doing what you love. don’t let anybody tell you what you can or can’t do with the blorbo. go wild. I will always support you

[bebx]

[frontmansdefender]

"On AO3 there are about 6,400,000 fics as of now that are M/M and only about 1,200,000 fics for F/F. Fans should stop excluding female characters for the sake of male characters" Hold the fuck on???? People don't "exclude female characters for the sake of male characters". The ratio between M/M fics and F/F fics is literally because more people like M/M fics more than they do F/F and that's actually fine, it's not that deep. Because people can write whatever they like.

Yes, misogyny is a very real thing. But you're erasing the creditability of that word and are the ones doing harm to women if you scream misogyny every time you see something that slightly upsets you. Writers ONLY writing M/M doesn't automatically mean they're misogynists, without any other factors present that may or may not make them misogynists, the only fact that 'some writers ONLY write M/M' literally just means they like writing romance between two male characters and that's it.

This is fanfiction we're talking about, not a political debate or social justice protest. If the majority of people want to write about two male characters falling in love, then let them.

You don't get to shame a writer for "ONLY writing about M/M" because everybody has the rights to write whatever they like.

If you want more works for F/F, then write F/F yourself. No one's stopping you.

As a feminist myself, shaming writers for only writing M/M doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you an entitled dick.

(from this poll by @curiositysavesthecat nothing against the mods of the poll blog btw, they just run polls that were sent to them.)

[curiositysavesthecat]

According to the submitter, they see incest as a mature topic and are wondering if ships that are incestuous should automatically be rated as such, even if the fics themselves do not feature sex or violence.

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[questions-about-blorbos]

“omg I didn’t know this artist was a pro shipper. this is so disappointing. I was a fan of their works. what a wasted talent😭” babe, why would you think people who are talented enough to make all these beautiful art - or write all these beautiful fics - are not smart enough to differentiate and separate fiction from reality?😭