#misandry in fandom

[aikoiya]

LoZ: Gerudo Misandry Is Not Funny Or Okay

I find it really damn odd that so few people talk about misandry when they bring up the Gerudo or the societal norms of other Amazon-esque races.

And even when they do, it seems to always be done with a tone of levity behind it.

As if it isn't every bit as terrible as misogyny.

As if their biological situations don't make men absolutely vital to the continued existence of their people & culture.

So, treating men as less than is as terrible as men treating women the same.

And, honestly? I can't help but see this disregard by fans (especially the feminist fans) as very spiteful.

Like, how do these people not see how this isn't okay?

I mean, no wonder Ganondorf always ends up such a sack of shit!

Seriously girls, imagine what it would be like growing up the only female in a society of all guys.

No maternal figures, no female role models, no female friends, or even acquaintances. And you're unlikely to ever even see another woman until you reach 18-20.

Separated from the most important woman in your life at 3-6, if not birth. To be raised by a pair of warlocks who despise their neighboring kingdom & are intent on turning you into a vile, tyrannical witch.

And every guy around you knows nothing about actual women, just misogynistic stereotypes, so all you can do is apply those same stereotypes to yourself & there's just this general consensus that women are basically unnecessary beyond producing children.

They don't have a single clue about what it means to be a woman. They don't know anything about women's health. No one to explain things to you when you need them most. So, in the end, you're mostly left to figure it all out on your own.

And the only real examples of women you have are people that your adoptive fathers say are oppressing you & your people. So, all you can do is quietly just assume that all women = bad. And that includes you too.

So, all you can do is frantically do everything you can to make yourself useful to these people who, knowingly or unknowingly, look down upon others of your sex.

And therefore, unconsciously, you as well.

And you're expected to rule these people. To lead them into a golden age.

I can't even imagine how damn isolating it must be. I can't imagine the pressure. These are your people, yet even so, you are still alien to them. Still other. Still "not one of them."

And in many ways, a commodity.

Based entirely upon something that you have zero control of.

And upon reaching 18, you're likely used as a breeding mare.

And the only people who could ever truly understand your situation & the pressure that comes with it... are all dead...

Now, switch the sexes & you basically have every Gerudo Voe's reality.

It's no damn wonder that Ganondorf always becomes evil.

There's also the ridiculous superstition that "men bring about disaster."

And then we get into the detrimental affects this shit has on the Vai!

Look at how these women react to just seeing a dude!

And this chick can't even look a man in the eye!

Because, apparently, she's never even seen a real man in person before! So, Link has to freaking wear a full-face mask in order to get her to manage to speak to him!

Then, to top it all off, it isn't simply a tradition. It's a law that these girls aren't allowed to associate with men "until they come of age." As in a literal law!

And let's not even get into what the little Vai wear! The sirwal are fine, it's the tops that need to be changed.

Kids aren't supposed to show that much skin!

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[madame-helen]

[telemachus-let-me-hit-it]

As she should. This is actually the correct way to regard men until they prove themselves to not be gross or dangerous. - mod note

[aquamarinemarie]

Solas is a man. I don't know why some within this fandom insist on denying this. Or would twist themselves into knots in order to pretend he's anything other than what he is.

"But Solas is a spirit!" The typical argument goes.

Correction: He was a genderless spirit.

Yes, Solas was once a spirit.

A spirit of wisdom and pride who chose to create for himself a male body, who has lived for thousands of years as a man, identifies as a man, and is, like it or not, exclusively attracted to women.

Solas is (now get ready to clutch your pearls, ladies and gentlemen) a straight, white, male. 😱

All other versions of what or who Solas could've been as a character was left on the cutting-room floor during the creative process.

This is, of course, standard. As anyone who has ever created an original character can tell you. Ideas are tried on, and if they don't feel right, for any reason, they're dropped.

End of story.

It doesn't matter who your Lavellan is either, since Solas' identity cannot be altered in canon by Lavellan or any other inquisitor. Solas will always be what and who he is.

"I am not a god! I am as I have always been: a man, all too aware of his failings..." - Solas, Dragon Age: The Veilguard

Headcanon all you want, all I'm saying is that I've never understood why someone would choose to lust after a fictional character who's immutable characteristics they claim to find offensive.

Especially when there are other characters present that are clearly more accommodating to your tastes.

[krisdreemurrs]

never forgiving the writers for turning arcane into the fuckin viktor and jayce show

[nqueso-lies]

Did you see the poll where BoB’s voted on whether they would kill a gay man for bvddie canon and 800 people voted yes?… I’ve actually never felt so horrible about even being in the same fandom as a group of people

Yeah, I saw it, unfortunately. I hate I had to interact to see the results. Do they not understand that this is why gay men don't feel safe in this fandom?? You know, not all buddie fans are women, but it does seem like all female BoBs are misandric.

Inch resting.

[gorey-gorella]

If Ursa was male, he would be more hated. If Ozai was female, she would be beloved by the fandom and male Ursa beating female Ozai up or killing her won't be seen as badass and quirky as the og gender equivalent of this.

[penelope-from-ithica]

You know what kind of “pessimist” I am? Or at least when it comes to men—-

Between 10-20 years, (not sure how long exactly the suitors were there) I’m surprised it even took that long for them to plan to assault Penelope. I say “plan” because we know it didn’t happen but yeah.

-mod note

[fanfic-lover-girl]

Artemis reinforcing misandry in her hunters

Look I understand that girls/women like Zoe are harmed by men. That the hunters group can be refuge for them.

However, I find it cruel that Artemis reinforces whatever mistrust and hatred these girls feel towards men.

Zoe is how many thousands of years old and you're telling me Percy is the first decent boy she has met? I know it's for plot reasons but this is ridiculous. The average man out there is just a regular joe going about his day. He may make a crude joke with the boys but he's working and has a community he cares about.

Like if a woman is raped, you don't tell her all men are rapists and she needs to hide from the world.

That's basically what Artemis does.

Zoe mentions in TC that she was around for WW2 because Artemis wanted the girls to know the savagery of men. Like why? Ok whatever. Why not also show the kindness of men on the field? Human compassion in the midst of war and violence? Show fathers doting on their little girls?

These girls are isolated from the daily routines of the mortal world and then Artemis pumps their heads with even more men hate.

I can't believe people in pjo fandom excuses this disgusting behaviour.

If Zoe and her crew hate boys, then they need to stay the hell away from CHB. Also Artemis is terrible for fanning the flames of their trauma towards men. Percy is not special. There are tons of men out there with probably even more empathy and compassion for their fellow man than Percy. There are men who serve our country who put their lives on the line everyday. Men who are good fathers and members of the community.

I'm not saying the hunters need to love men but Artemis is doing them a disservice by only showing the evil side of men. What about the evil women out there??? I guess to the hunters and Artemis men are the source of all evil and women are saints who can do no wrong.

[telemachus-let-me-hit-it]

Circe lives in misandrist energy and we love that for her -Mod note

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[kezcore]

i like hating on popular male characters because 1. i'm a lesbian 2. the female characters are never nearly as popular 3. i just think it's really funny

[mx-loar-tev]

Hook, queer ships and sexism in fandom.

I know us swanqueen shippers tend to collectively hate Hook and shit on him, but I personally do like the idea of a nice and supportive Hook that push Emma and Regina together, that is supportive of their relationship and is not just an overall shitty guy.

Like, I get that a lot of us hate him (honestly I find him boring each time I watch the show), but in fanfictions, do we really have to just have him play the bad guy role over and over again instead of giving him a nice role? Can't we write fix-its where he is different?

I mean, that's what fan work is about, isn't it? I get some of us just want to write angst and that's okay. But if we just want to write our sapphic ship, why do we have to make the canon male love interest a villain to do it?

It's an honnest question really. Because I know I've done it, and not just with Hook and swanqueen. Even if the canon straight ship is shitty and that's why i/we are shipping the queer non-canon ship instead, why automatically making the guy a villain? Why making a guy a villain, period ?

No really, I feel like a lot of queer fangirl shippers tend to make male love interests into villains. And I think that's because a lot of us are queer girls or at least afab people, who ended up with a lot of resentment towards men in general.

I'm not going in the "you're a lesbian because you hate men" territory. I'm just saying that we just had those experiences with men, that left us angry and wary. And like a lot of feminists that lost sight of what they are fighting for (equality between sexes. Not women supremacy) we sometimes let ourselves go down that hill of anger and trauma.

I think we need to ask ourselves why we do what we do, why we write what we write. Do we write that male character as a bad guy because the show really depicts all the red flags? Or is it because of our internalised bias about men?

Again, it's an honnest question. Sometimes the guy is just that bad. But is he, always? I think that's a good question to keep in mind.

[transmascutena]

one of the best things about the utena fandom is that you mostly get to avoid the kind of person who ignores all female characters in favor of focusing exclusively on male background character number 5 that everyone (rightfully) complains about seeing everywhere else because 90% of rgu fans only care about the girls. except for every once in a while when we get things like Ruka Fan Blog Who Believes Misandry Exists and we all get to make fun of them together

[daystarvoyage]

After rewatchin* the owl house for its lack of black or poc representation & certain writing lore, world building, storytelling being compromised & characters retconned.

It’s no known fact….

THESE TWO NEVER INTERACTED OR SHOW A SOLID RELATIONSHIP OR HAVE CLOSURE!

(from talking or just sharing a joke,here & there, all we get Are GESTURES yet she talked to every other character in the show. (who’s a girl, family and not poc besides Luz)

she literally has no interaction with Gus!

BE IT A OR B PLOT & THROUGHOUT THE SHOW.

(NO DONT BLAME DISNEY FOR THAT CAUSE ALL THIS COULDA BEEN ESTABLISHED & WRITTEN PROPERLY.)

VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS- DW ARTHUR

And trust I can read numerous or five reasons on ARTIECETB LIST BELOW ON HER HAZBIN VIDEO on why the owl house needs to be fixed, written and paced well, Also make sure to check out her channel.

Like wow funny enough y’all sure did dispose of Gus of being the token black friend cause that trope is been done repeatedly, sheesh woulda think he had his own spotlight however right?(Gus was overshadowed by the lumity kiss in his centric episode.) it’s been discussed throughout every platform so hoping we can talk more on the topic at hand.

Which I’m thankful the toh critic postees are talking about the injustice which questions, the whole poc rep of the show, cause there barely focus or show the other hexside students (Cat & SKARA example) who are also pocs in the show.

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[skotiwolves]

Y’all are aware that Omega was gone for six months and their priority was her, right? Or before that when Wrecker nearly started crying, Hunter had to give the news to Omega, and Omega pleaded for them to go back because she thought they could still find him?

What about before Barton IV? When they were all gathered around the table and his name was mentioned and everyone fell silent and hung their heads? Even Crosshair?

If the creators didn’t want to keep his memory alive, they would’ve never mentioned his name again. They wouldn’t have kept his goggles in the show. They wouldn’t have shown very Tech qualities in Omega’s personality.

Instead, he’s seen in their decisions. He was felt in every scene when the Marauder was flown. He’s felt in every scene that involves tech, to any degree (because I know everyone has had a ‘tech could solve this’ moment while watching)

The characters don’t have to cry, hit a wall, and shout to the heavens in some big scene to show their grief. We’ve seen it already, and I think it suffices.

These characters are cloned soldiers who were created for war—nothing else. I think that’s forgotten quite often. Their mindset is different than your regular Joe. How they approach situations is different. How they grieve is going to be different.

They lost Tech, and almost immediately lost Omega. Their priority was finding any leads that could pinpoint them to Tantiss/Omega. Taking jobs, spending resources, and losing sleep until she was brought home. We have no idea what those six months held. We have no idea what Hunter and Wrecker went through without them there. Tech could’ve found her easily, and they know that. His goggles were sat on the shelf, and they probably felt his presence every single day

Omega wanted to preserve his goggles in that room on Pabu for a reason. He is still a part of their team. He’s still a part of their hearts and someone that the people of Pabu knew and appreciated. His character hasn’t been neglected, and the team hasn’t forgotten about him.

Sometimes you need to read between the lines 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[telemachus-let-me-hit-it]

Imagine this is the advice Circe gives to her nymphs LMAO -mod note

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