#mspec lesbian culture

[bilesbianblog]

mspec lesbian culture is liking men but they have to be at least partially a woman and/or enby for me to be attracted to them @_@

June 13, 2024.

[hussyknee]

One thing you have to remember is that online queer discourse doesn't make a damn bit of difference to systemic queerphobia irl or LGBT rights. No amount of playing respectability politics by identifying the "real freaks" will ever lead to sexual emancipation or prevent sexual violence. No amount of trying to identify and cast out "oppressors" and "infiltrators" will ever make homophobes and transphobes respect the sanctity of your sexual identity. Not letting people have words and flags and colours is absolutely nothing except a weapon for online harrassment and clout-chasing wielded by white and Western weirdos who've drunk the colonizer Kool-Aid.

[violottie]

since my old blog got nuked, i gotta make this post again because yall refuse to be anything but ignorant

lesbian sexuality ≠ heterosexual men's sexuality

lesbian attraction to women ≠ men's attraction to women

trans men cannot be lesbians, because they are men. if you think so, youre a transphobe as well as a lesbophobe.

lesbian attraction is not perverse, predatory, dehumanising to or sexualising of women's bodies

men have never and will never be included in lesbian sexuality and attraction under any circumstance

(and if your mind immediately goes to trans women and transfems when reading the above, congrats, youre a transphobe)

butch, femme, stud and stone are lesbian only identities

similarly, dyke is a slur that literally means lesbian. if youre not a lesbian, you're not a, nor can you 'reclaim', dyke.

butches and studs ≠ men or man-lite

butch ≠ masculine

femme ≠ feminine

transmasc ≠ trans man, therefore transmasc lesbians are a thing and trans men cannot ever be lesbians

trans women and transfems have been & will always be included in lesbian attraction, sexuality and community

trans lesbians & transfems can be butch

he/him lesbians ≠ (trans)masc, butch, stud lesbians

black lesbians ≠ automatically masc, butch, stud or tops

"bi lesbians" or "mspec lesbians" do not exist.

the split attraction model is for aromanticism and asexuality only. if you identify as such, youre just a bisexual who doesnt wanna unpack your internalised biphobia so resort to lesbophobia to cope with your self loathing caused by harmful stereotypes about your sexuality, which is bisexual. if you claim they do exist, you're both lesbophobic and biphobic

thank you for coming to my TedTalk. im sure you didnt listen to a word i said.

[butch-culture-is]

some bitches hear my opinions on mspec lesbians and assume I'm a women hating white boy who's never met a non white queer irl <- yes I've been told almost exactly that.

I'm bigay if you want an explanation on why I'm happy to give one. I think anyone can label themselves as bi or gay regardless of their attraction.

if someone else is gay and to them that means being a mam who's only attracted to men that doesn't make me or anyone else who doesn't perfectly fit that description less gay it just means we hold a different meaning to being gay.

someone who uses he/him pronouns or calls themselves a lesboy could be a masculine cis woman or a trans women, there are so many nuances and reasons someone could use an identity you don't agree with and I didn't even mention the SAM. (split attraction model)

"oh why do i hear so much about how anyone can be a lesbian but not about being gay/bi/ect" maybe because people aren't constantly saying mspec gays or gay girls aren't valid.

for the race thing I'm mixed (Irish and Pakistani if that matters to you). my closest irl friend is native. and I'm an active member of the south Asian community in my city.

for the 'hating women' thing i held a three day protest against the dress code in elementary school because it was sexist if that's worth anything.

all of that to say not all people who support mspec mono labels are white women haters out to get lesbians. being a lesbian can mean whatever you want it to mean to you. But you can't decide what it mans for other people

[indigenous-gender]

this is a pissed off, angry savage Indian reminder that you don’t owe anyone a GODDAMN anything. I just spent my labor, time, and energy, making a video (which TikTok took down, because our identities are still considered slurs despite the fact that they’ve been reclaimed since before I was born), proving without a shadow of a doubt that manhood has always been present in lesbianism, men identifying as lesbians and lesbians identifying as men. I posted these historical and cultural sources to show that manhood has always been present in lesbian identity since the dawn of time, since the inception of lesbianism. These fucking colonizer queers will posture and virtue signal and sealion, claiming that they are open to hearing other perspectives or are willing to be educated, then the second you provide evidence (which by the way is rooted in racism, because I know my oral history and don’t need colonizer’s documents to prove jack shit) they ADMIT they don’t give a fuck! They were never willing to be educated, they already had their colonizer minds made up about us. They twist our words and desecrate our cultures. So just remember you don’t owe anyone a mufucking NOTHING. not your time, energy, labor, resources, not a goddamn fucking explanation. Because these fucking colonizer queers don’t give a rat’s ass about queers of color. Chupa mis nalgas pinche haole!

[aholotte]

being mspec doesn’t always mean you like all genders!!! all it means is that you like more than one gender. you could be mspec and like women and non-binary people. some of y’all treat non-binary people like women-lite or men-lite and it shows

[mestric-diaries]

mestric non-binary/aporagender mspec lesbian culture is getting angry when people claim nb people are part of the lesbian label but then turn around and say lesbian is monosexual and can't be mspec like can lesbians like nb people or not

mestric culture is

[sapphic-cultureis]

Sapphic culture is wanting a girlfriend >:(

[piplupod]

that question is sparked by me seeing a very obnoxious (i.e. eyestrain to the point of inducing a headache) dni banner that lists "bi lesbians" on it and I look at the person's carrd and they have "anti-neopronoun/xenogender/mogai" listed right underneath "bi lesbians/lesboys/etc and supporters"

and i am just. feeling a little crazy. because i genuinely do not understand this fsdjkl i feel like... if you are supportive of xenogenders then you should understand gender is complex and doesn't line up nicely with sexuality labels sometimes so you have to twist things to make them fit right for you and your internal experience... this is why we have cool labels like cloudgender and stargender and all that fun stuff!! these labels are cool! they are good! so why suddenly are we saying that lesbians and gays who do not fit the traditional "i am solely a woman attracted solely to other only-ever-women" box are wrong and bad ?

i dont want to be saying horrible things bc im misunderstanding or straight up not seeing the issue though, so genuinely if anyone has insight please tell me because im so beyond confused at this point

[mspec-culture-is]

this may be hyperspecific but transfem mspec lesbian culture is being unable to tell the difference between "listen to REAL women" coming from TERFs and "listen to REAL lesbians" coming from lesbian separatists

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[bugs-b-clownin]

my gender is beautiful. my sex is beautiful. the way I love is beautiful. my body is beautiful. I'm fucking beautiful. I love being female. I love being nonbinary. I love being trans. I love being agender. I love when people hate me. I love feeling my feelings. I love my shapes. Why the fuck shouldn't I??

[bilesbianblog]

mspec lesbian culture is silently gay panicking over how hot the nude croquis model you're trying to draw is

April 18, 2024.

[hussyknee]

You know what? You're right about everything. In fact people who shit all over mspec gays/lesbians not only have no concept of how anything works, but they're also fucking selfish and horrible members of the community. I'll die on this hill. A bunch of assholes only out for themselves.

We are actively under fire in many countries. US and UK are actively heading into a trans genocide. Russia is getting worse, too now. Loads of other countries I haven't named. (Before anyone says jack shit the fucking center named after the person who coined the term genocide said we were headed that way. Genocide isnt an overnight thing you stupid leftists Do your damn research and shut up.)

We are at a high rate of suicide and sexual violence, regular violence housing and health care denial, etc. Do you think someone is going to stop and make sure someone isn't a snowflake queer or "tucute" or mspec lesbian before they bash their fucking head it? Do you think a doctor is gonna tell a nonbinary person who looks visibly queer "of course I'll treat you, you're not one of those trans people" Not to mention how you're so quick to exclude closeting and questioning kids who already want to kill themselves? Do you fucking hear the way you talk about your own people? LEAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE ALONE AND CALL YOUR GOVERNEBT REPS OR GET PETTITIONS CIRCULATED OR DONATION POSTS BOOSTED!

You would really rather attack people who's fucking LABELS you disagree with than do anything fucking positive to protect the rest of us? It makes me sick to my fucking stomach that y'all care more about policing than you do about your own people? Absolute selfish and cruel bootlicker behaviour. It's disgraceful, and I'm ashamed and enraged to share space with you people.

[bonefall]

Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.

It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.

[seraphic-sapphic-safehaven]

Nah fr though, don't reblog my shit if you're hateful towards any queer identity!!

If you don't like pan, ply, or omni people, fuck off.

Hate MOGAI? Get bent.

If you don't like acespecs and/or arospecs, fuck off.

Hate mspec lesbians? Leave right tf now.

If you don't like enbies, fuck off.

Hate cultural identities? Turn tf around.

If you're hateful towards any of these identities and/or lesbians, bi people, gay people, trans people, or any other part of this community, get the literal and actual fuck out of here.

WE DON'T DO EXCLUSIONARY BULLSHIT IN THIS SPACE! WE NEVER HAVE! AND WE NEVER, EVER, EVERRRR WILL!!

This is a safe space for queer people, especially the ones who get spoken over and shit on all the time, NOT hateful and bigoted people. And when I say hateful and bigoted people, I'm including queer people who feel the need to hurt and harm and harass and shit-talk other queers. Go anywhere else if you wanna be a jerk!! Hope this helps 🫶🏾🫶🏾

[cdd-systems-support]

happy pride month for queer systems!

happy pride month for lesbian systems, gay systems, enbian systems, mspec systems, aspec systems! happy pride month for trans systems, nonbinary systems, genderqueer systems, multigender systems, abinary systems, atrinary systems, xenogender systems! happy pride month for intersex systems! happy pride month for systems who use "contradictory" labels! happy pride month for systems who use their cultural queer labels!

happy pride month for systems who use neopronouns! happy pride month for systems who change pronouns often! happy pride month for systems who use multiple labels! happy pride month for systems who change labels often! happy pride month who can't find their labels because of identity confusion! happy pride month for systems who choose don't use labels!

happy pride month for systems who can't celebrate pride month. who live in unsafe places, in unsafe families, unsafe regions, unsafe countries. happy pride month for systems who have to stay closeted because of environment. i'm with you & i remember you. you belong too. hope someday you'll be able to celebrate pride month.

happy pride month to queer systems!