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shiningstarr15 · 3 months ago
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FYI if I see a ship involving a character that I hc as ace/aro/aroace, IM NOT GONNA BE MAD OK. It is a spectrum after all and people can and will feel differently on how their identity affects them. So do what you feel is right. As long as YOU don’t disrespect the fact that I might NOT ship it or only ship it as a qpr
Anyway happy international asexuality day everyone 😬🫶💜🤍🖤
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alex-the-bringer-of-chaos · 5 months ago
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My core for the last few weeks has been flip-flopping between different labels regarding tertiary attraction, them being:
Sapphic; Trixic; Enbian; Lesbian; Omni; Bi.
Honestly, quite an intriguing experience. Nonetheless, those are the new pokemons I've collected
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v-tired-queer · 2 years ago
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BRO I wanna be REALLY FIT and STRONG so I can lift GIRLS and go SPINNY with them in my arms and make them LAUGH
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wetbloodworm · 5 months ago
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was thinking about pride flags today and ended up here. happy pride to my arikids i suppose lmao
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taurosrider13 · 1 year ago
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I like basically all women but my taste in men is androgyny so basically I’m gay but I can compromise if I need to
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newpathwrites · 1 year ago
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How my conversation with new patient registration went today:
Them: We have to ask everyone this question. What is your sexual orientation?
(Very, very long pause as I shuffle through every possible answer in my mind and decide I want none of them in my medical chart)
Me: Is there an option to not disclose?
(Another long pause as they realize the implication that I am ✨not straight✨)
Them: Oh… oh… sure… sure…
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suddenlymicah · 2 years ago
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i acknowledge and understand and love aroace saiki but also what if they kissed
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incognitopolls · 5 months ago
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This poll uses "gay" as an umbrella term to include gay, lesbian, bi, pan, etc.
This poll is asking about orientation only, not transgender identity.
Anon is aroace and doesn't really consider themself to be gay or straight. They don't feel attraction to anybody and are still working through what it means for them to be aroace.
Obviously there's more to sexuality than just "gay or straight" but they are curious if others think of orientation as being a complete dichotomy (there are only two pools and everyone falls into one pool or the other) or as more of a spectrum.
We ask your questions anonymously so you don’t have to! Submissions are open on the 1st and 15th of the month.
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forsaken-headcanons · 2 months ago
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Cracks knuckles. The hyperfixation is getting too strong, gotta beam queer headcanons at these guys.
007n7 ; Transmasc, He/Any. Especially any pronoun that is similar to he/him with a different spelling (hx/hxm , h3/h1m , hy/hym , ect.) Probably bi or aroace spec, but hx don't got time for all that. (Raising a kid.)
Chance ; Canonically nonbinary, He/They. I'd like to add neos and xenogenders to that. That bitch uses gambling and bunny based genders and neos. Maybe gun ones too. What exactly? Don't know yet. Probably pan, but he never really picked a label. So he'll just say unlabeled most of the time.
Guest 1337 ; Trans vibes... I don't know in what way though. Maybe transfem? She has transfem vibes to me, She/Her. She hung around too many trans people, and boom, egg cracked /silly. I don't know her orientation, she just really loves her wife.
Builderman ; Gender apathetic, probably genderqueer, mostly uses he/him, but doesn't really give a shit. If you use something else, he'll just roll with it. He's got other things to do, than worry about something like that. Also unlabeled, because again, to busy to care. Dude is just existing and living his best life.
Taph ; They/Them and emojipronouns. Definitely uses xenos, don't know what though... And they don't use emojis because they mostly communicate with emojis, common misconception, they do it because they like emojis and seeing people's faces twist up at them. Definitely bi. They just have the vibe.
Elliot ; Dude, he doesn't even know what she is. He's just tryna make sure her teammates eat his pizza, and she makes it through the round /silly. Uses He/She. No preference most of the time, but will sometimes ask people to use one set over the other in certain cases. Mostly when he thinks people use one of her sets more than the other. Orientation? Fucking tired. Again, busy pizza worker man, she ain't got time for it.
Dusekkar ; Mirror pronouns. He'll use he/they as aux pronouns if needed, but she actually uses mirror pronouns. Agender. At least aromatic, maybe asexual. She just. kinda figured out he was aro and left it there.
Shedletsky ; Genderfluid. Any pronouns but also pronounfluid. Like technically she uses any pronouns, so you can't misgender him, put their preferences on what ix's favorite sets are and what feels most comfortable changes. He knows his sexuality is more complicated than just bi, but she never really looked into all that, so ix just says bi.
Noob ; Genderfluid <3. Along with they/them, ze uses neos, often prefers neos. Things like ze/zir, xe/xem, dae/daem, ae/aes. Basically, any non noun or emoji pronoun. Ae will just say dae use they/them though, since it's easier. Queer. Just. queer.
Two Time ; Points at canon. No complaints here. Nonbinary, they/them. Will sometimes use other pronouns. Sometimes they/them just doesn't fit right at the time. Typical doesn't last longer than a day or two. AroAce spec, maybe gray or demi? Azure's the only person they've ever really liked.
John Doe ; He's cishet to me, he/him. Or maybe transhet... I just know he's a guy (or guy esc) who likes women. (Especially his wife. He really loves his wife, even if he can't recall her.)
1x1x1x1 ; Her genderfluid nature captivates me /silly. BUT. He's also pangender and genderflux. They are literally every gender all the time. She just moves between which one she feels most connected to, and how much he's connected to it. Any pronouns. Literally couldn't care about attraction, they're too busy being fueled by rage to worry about that.
Azure ; They/He/It, either genderfluid or flux. Maybe genderfaun? Genderfaun. They haven't settled on a sexuality label. He used to say straight, since it likes girls, but since their relationship with Two Time, he isn't sure anyway. Technically he knows it can still identify as straight, but they just feel weird using the label since then. Then it got Forsakened, and hasn't had the time otherwise to worry.
Jason ; Transmasc nonbinary, He/Him. I do not care about anything the movies tell me. I don't know the other Roblox game he comes from. He's so fucking transmasc coded. I will die on this hill. Literally could care less about sexuality, but if it has to be labeled, gay or bi work best. Maybe even both. He doesn't know, doesn't care.
Noli ; They/He, bigender. I don't know what genders make up his bigender identity, they're just bigender. Sexuality is complicated and tied to his gender in weird ways. He likes women one specific way because he's [gender], and likes men a different way because they're [gender]. So they'll literally use many, many contradictory labels because of this. He's winning at life.
Guest 666 ; Agender and genderfluid at the same time. All pronouns, no preferences, but will let you know if he thinks you're only using one set. She uses all, and would prefer if people used all of their pronouns. Make things up, assign faer things. Beast doesn't care, just don't use a singular set. Like noob, I think ey just says queer. Sexuality is a complicated thing that red never really got around to tackling, so.
Mafia ; He/Him but in a distinctly genderqueer way. I don't know how to word it. His gender can't really be explained by normal terms. A xenogender could probably describe it, but who knows. Also queer. Honestly? I think everything about him can just be described as queer. Definitely could have better / more accurate terms, but he likes using the term queer best, so it's what he uses.
-- While I'm not giving them separate things, his "boys" are also queer. I say "boys" because at least one of them is transfem. She doesn't really care she's a boy though. All of them in a poly relationship. They all love each other. That's all.
Jane Doe ; Cis, she/her. But she has the biggest fucking bi energy around. She just radiates pure bi energy, it's actually insane. She could pull anyone. I believe this with all my heart.
I don't know how much since any of these make. I just had to get my ideas out of my brain / brainstorm ideas for these guys.
All of these are so peak. I love them all.
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penguinsfly · 1 year ago
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I unfortunately saw something I didn't want to see and that was my last straw. I'm fucking doing this.
Let's establish this first. Alastor is stated in the show to be asexual that is not up to discussion. He is also very heavily implied in the same conversation to be aromatic. 'An Ace in the hole' being used in context of him being with Charlie is also implying his aromanticism.
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If that's not enough then here is Viv speaking about his romantic orientation. It's pretty clear despite the fact that afterwards she said it's okay to headcanon whatever (it's not but I will get o that later) that he is written purely as an aro ace character.
On top of that going by Alastor's interaction with Angel from the pilot and the first episode it is clear that he is sex repulsed. Not only that but on the fandom website he is stated to be touch averse with two sources which you can check out on the website.
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Hazbin hotel wiki, Alastor page
Now we established that Alastor is canonically Asexual, Aromantic, Sex Repulsed and Touch Averse
As I also am all of the above I'll try to explain everything to the best of my ability as simply as I can.
Aromanticism and Asexuality.
I'm probably targeting the audience that knows those terms but regardless I will explain it anyway.
Aromantic - people that experience little to no romantic attraction towards any gender
Asexual - people that experience little to no sexual attraction towards any gender.
Little to no
Asexuality and aromanticism are spectrums in which people can feel certain attractions towards people but those attractions are less occurring or are defined by personal connection.
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Diagram from AVEN website
However some people are at the end of the spectrum, they never felt attraction and that's valid. Alastor was stated to be aroace he wasn't written as demi or as gray he was written as aroace as in the end of the spectrum. His repulsion and not giving shit about romance or sex speaks for itself.
Representation
I do understand that everyone wants to be represented but it's so important to understand that aroace people are one of the most underrepresented queer groups in the media.
And I'm not here to scream about how I want my fav character to be just like me I don't care for it I'm way too confident in my orientation to rely on that however I'm tired of explaining to people what asexuality and aromanticism is just to receive 'are you sure' or 'you'll change your mind' or 'its not real' or the community favourite 'you'll find the right person' no I won't I'm not looking thank you very much (I just smile and nod to be polite and I'm sick of it).
'Harmless' buts like: 'He might be on the spectrum', 'AroAce people can still feel attraction' hurt the final outcome for all the people on the spectrum not only strictly aroaces because it allows people to write one shots with 'Demi Alastor' that falls in love in 2000 words because he is 'demi' (spoiler alert: they don't understand what that label means). It's just a cover, an opening, sneaky way to disregard his orientation, feel good about themselves and move on. Newsflash there is no moving on for aroace people it's our life.
Shipping
Shipping is just harmless fun right? Usually yes but not in this case. In the same way its not okay to ship gay characters with genders they are not attracted to.
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It's erasure and since there is much less people identifying on aro/ace spectrums then there is gay or bi people our voices are being silenced. Not to mention that gay people received support from entire LGBTQIA+ community over the years in contrast to aro/ace specs who to this day are told that we are 'not queer enough' or 'not oppressed enough' often by other queer people.
And finally... FINALLY we get cannon Aro/Ace character that is clearly not interested in romance and sex. Character that beats stereotypes of boring and timid aro/ace people and what's the first people do? They ship him. Alastor's storyline provides so many points to be explored like 'what is his backstory', ' what's about his deal', ' how does he fit in in the found family trope' , 'does he care about hotel guests' yet people choose to write about the only thing that he is not interested in. As a heavily repulsed person that used to be horrified about the fact that I'll have to fall in love with somebody at some point before I found out what aro/ace is I find it repulsive and trust me he would too.
But Viv said it's okay!
Its the same point once again. What if Viv said that it's okay to ship gay Angel with woman. She doesn't have authority to say shit like that.
Queerplatonic relationships
I can't tell you not to do it I don't think he would be necessary interested in it but for fuck sake do your research and try to understand what queerplatonic means before you use it as a cover to shamelessly ship him. Respect the fact that he is sex repulsed and touch averse and you're fine.
Why can't you just avoid it?
First of all I shouldn't have to. Alastor's orientation should be respected in the fandom like any other orientation is. Second of all I've tried. I tried to only look up AroAce Alastor tag I've blocked over 80 people on tumblr alone (I just counted) to avoid to see anything that could trigger me and I'm not talking about slightly shippy posts or fanarts I'm talking about full blown disregard towards his orientation. Guess what it didn't work!
Archive of our own where do I start. I've used this website for over a decade and I could probably count days I didn't go there on my fingers. I'm fluent in AO3 I know which tags I should block. I know how to skim thorough the summary and tags to see if I'm interested. I've seen shit I'm a shipper I've been on ao3 for ten years but never had to mentally prepare myself to face queerphobia as I click on the tab.
Just use aro/ace Alastor tag.
I do and let me tell you people can't tag for shit or they just pretend to be clueless at this point. Besides see this?
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there is more ff with Alastor/reader (disgusting) than there is Alastor with his canon orientation and to play the devils advocate for arophobic people there is more Angel/Alastor then his stated in the show sexuality. I understand that fandom goes back before the show was aired but Viv confirmed his orientation back then too.
Summary
I could go on and on bout different issues and maybe I will in the future but I'm not wasting anymore of this weekend on it. I'm ready to answer any questions as long as they are respectful.
I'm aware that he is a fictional character, it doesn't affect him in any way whatsoever but it does affect aromantic and asexual people keep it in mind.
If there are any mistakes grammar related I'm not sorry I'm fluent in English (not my first language) but I took 3h nap in between and I'm sleep deprived.
Have a nice day.
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just-my-term-hoard · 4 months ago
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Constelic attraction template
Constelic attraction is any type of orientation or attraction that is impacted, influenced or caused, by one’s constels in some way. Some examples are
- someone with a constel who is bi and identifies as bi because of it
- someone who is aro but feels attraction due to their constel
- someone who is attracted to a character because their constel is attracted to them
Feel free to make your own flags! Please tag me if you post them, I’d love to see them. There’s a list of flags I’ve already made and will post bellow the read more
Tag list (if you’d like to be added or removed let me know!)
@flutteringwings-coining @radiomogai
General constelic attraction flags
Lesbian constelic attraction
Vincian constelic attraction
Bi constelic attraction
Pan constelic attraction
Omni constelic attraction
Abro constelic attraction
Trixic constelic attraction
Toric constelic attraction
Aroace constelic attraction
Aro constelic attraction
Ace constelic attraction
Oriented aroace constelic attraction
Queerplatonic constelic attraction
Polyamorous constelic attraction
Lesboy constelic attraction
Fictoromantic constelic attraction
Fictosexual constelic attraction
Objectum constelic attraction
Conceptum constelic attraction
Character specific constelic attraction
Jonny d'Ville
Gunpowder Tim
Ashes O'Reilly
Nastya Rasputina
Toy Soldier
Drumbot Brian
Ivy Alexandria
Raphaella la Cognizi
Marius von Raum
Aurora
Lyfrassir Edda
Father Galahad
c!Grian
c!Bdubs
Heavy
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ace-culture-is · 4 months ago
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bi oriented aroace culture is that it takes time to connect to oneself when one hears explanations about sexuality because one is aroace and experiences *bi panic* at the same time. In addition to that, feel a bit alienated because can't find a place in the mspec community or in the aspec community where fit right in.
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tbalderdash-art-blog · 7 days ago
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Final piece for Aggressively Arospec Week! Now that this one's done I can spend more time working on my comic (and end the break of bird art).
Characters and orientations (right to left):
Elliot (And Another Lovely Day): Aroace, explicitly stated in canon.
The Penguin (Batman '66): Aroace. Asexuality is only based on colour scheme. Aromanticism is non-canon, but in an episode he'd rather go to prison than continue dating a woman he married just so he could steal the wedding gifts.
Nora (And Another Lovely Day): Aroace, explicitly stated in canon
Arthur Crimsonblood (Shadebringer) (My OC): Bi aroace kinkster. Shadebringer works as a diagetic franchise in Chased Through Dreams, the "original authors" probably will not have made him explicitly aro, but in the Shadowverse (based on the Arkhamverse) he is canonically a romance-repulsed aromantic (the word isn't used)
Jughead Jones: Aroace, explicitly stated in canon
Valerie (Shadebringer) (My OC): Aromantic, intersex, transfem kinkster.
Echo Redwood (Chased Through Dreams) (My OC): Romance-repulsed aroace. Explicitly canon. Arthur Crimsonblood is their special interest, and the comic will explore being romance-repulsed (and sex-repulsed) in fandom.
The Riddler (Arkhamverse): Romance-repulsed aroallo kinkster. Aromanticism is strongly implied in Arkham Knight, in an audio tape in which he says Batman and Catwoman's romantic attachment disgusts him. Allosexuality is lightly implied in Arkham Origins, in which he has a sexy calendar in his lair. In the mainline DC comics he is bi.
Agnes Crumplebottom (The Sims): Romance-repulsed caedromantic. Caedromanticism/aromanticism is non-canon, however, if Sims are romantic in front of her, she hits them with her handbag, hence I think she should be an icon to the romance-repulsed community.
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog): Aroace. Not explicitly stated in canon, however has been stated by outside sources to not date people. Eg: Amy was made to be the Minnie to Sonic's Mickey, however they did not think it would be in Sonic's style to date her, so it is unrequited.
Bel (Bomb Rush Cyberfunk): Aromantic. Not explicitly stated in canon, but Tryce says, "Don't try anything. This girl's married to her phone" which implies aromanticism, and non romance-favourability.
Krobus (Stardew Valley): Unknown if the Shadow People experience romance. He is the character that you can become roommates with, instead of marriage with all the other bachelors.
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ultraethereal22 · 5 months ago
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REVISITED LESBIAN MASTERDOC
I wanna share with y'all my version of the lesbian masterdoc. we know the og is a bit problematic, but it helped me sm, so I revisited it. if you don't have a lot of points you aren't necessarily a lesbian. notice that a lot of points also have cons (maybe you're bi and you prefer women, you have orientation OCD, you're aroace, that's your taste in men, you are emotionally unavailable, etc). so here we go...
you believe women are objectively pretty and men are objectively ugly
you believe love is just friendship with kisses
you see having sex with men as a burden
if you're a virgin, you wanna have your first time with a man in a long time
using religion as an excuse (subconsciously) to have sex after marriage
in your sexual fantasies the man is not very detailed/the more there are details the more you're bored or disinterested/you're the observer of the scene and you focus on the woman
you constantly doubt you're into men, but you don't do that with women
you find interesting men that you can't have (taken/married men, gay men, aroace men, fictional men, celebrities, much older men, men who clearly don't give a shit about you)
you prefer having long-distance relationships with men
in series and movies you focus on female characters and don't care about the male ones
having sex with men as a form of self-harm subconsciously
you prefer feminine men
when you think you have a crush on a guy, your fantasies are never actually romantic (ex. you imagine yourselves simply hanging out and enjoying each other's company, with no kisses or stuff like that)
you think you're not attracted to men cuz you still have to find the one
you have very high standards with men, but not with women
you run away as soon as the boy likes you back
finding absurd other girls lose their minds over men
not getting what's so special about certain men (ex. Leonardo DiCaprio)
you have never noticed him, but when other girls start to like him you start to crush on him, too
crushing on the guy that is liked by the girl you're super close with
believing that being attracted to men means simply finding them "nice"
choosing a boy as a crush just because someone asked you if you liked somebody or they pressured you
wishing you were a lesbian
believing you can't be a lesbian because you would've already known
believing you gotta have sex with your man just to show him you care for him, not because you enjoy it
basing your attraction for men on their personality only
finding boring future with a man
being scared of being a lesbian and asking yourself if you're one at the same time
having an intense friendship with a woman, especially if she's sapphic
always imagining yourself with a man in the future, knowing you'd rather be with a woman
thinking you'd be 100% with a woman in a world with no homophobia
changing a lot of labels, but never considering the lesbian one. you'd rather go directly for aroace
believing you're into men, but you don't care about making male friends or you have never found them interesting, not even in a platonic way
when a straight fantasy isn't making you horny, you change the story many and many times to try to turn you on on purpose to prove your heterosexuality/bisexuality
you go out with any man that likes you
you want men to want you, but when it works it makes you feel uncomfortable
getting into a straight relationship just for material convenience or to feel cool or not to let the world think you could be sapphic
wishing your boyfriend wasn't that into romantic stuff and sex
you get over men very fast
wishing for a relationship, not really for a boyfriend
wanting sex with men for validation
you need to be drunk or high to have hetero sex
wanting straight sex only if you're subdued
wanting to kiss a girl friend "to know how to kiss boys"
touching a girl by mistake and feeling weird after it (it could be simply an arm touch)
feeling awkward in a changing room
"if she were a boy, I'd be with her"/"if I were a boy, I'd be with her"
"if I were him, I'd never treat her like that"
being obsessed with queer culture as an "ally"
"everyone is a little bit gay"
everyone thinks you are
wanting to kiss a female friend as a sign of "big friendship"
some girls kiss each other to turn men on, so you take subconsciously this opportunity to kiss one because you actually desire to
kissing girls when you're drunk/high
you constantly find ways not to believe you're a lesbian
you find more sensible gay men's attraction than straight girl's attraction to men
not having "enough time for men and relationships"
if your friend uses other pronouns too, you use them a lot, more than the feminine ones to subconsciously bypass your attraction
treating bad out of nowhere the girl you were so attached to
every time you find a man funny you automatically think you're into him
you try to like men to feel more feminine (for trans girls)
joking many times about not being attracted to men or their genitals
btw if you're sure you don't like men in a sexual way, but you still don't know if you like them emotionally I recommend to research on limerence. that's how I realised I was a lesbian<3
I hope all of this helps you girlies. you're always valid♡
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parksrway · 28 days ago
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queering them into oblivion, champion's shadow edition 💜 happy pride (characters not mentioned are either not queer (unlikely) or undecided (more likely), or ocs that I shan't talk about yet)
("rose" stands for both romantic and sexual orientation! for example, demirose means both demisexual and demiromantic)
sheik: asexual, demi-biromantic, trans nb man (he/him)
paya: asexual, lesbian (she/her)
link: trans man, bi (he/him)
zelda: pan (she/her)
purah: aroace, transfem genderqueer (she/they)
impa: bi (she/her)
sidon: pan demirose, nonbinary man (he/they)
mipha: bi, nonbinary woman (she/they)
yunobo: gay, asexual, genderless (they/he)
daruk: asexual, genderless (he/they)
riju: questioning aroace (she/her)
sooga: aroace (he/him)
the yiga footsoldier from those few updates: nonbinary (they/them) (there's more to their identity but this is all i'm revealing now hehe)
revali: bi (he/him)
master kohga: there's something going on but no one is really sure what (he/any)
robbie: bi (he/him)
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marzipanandminutiae · 7 months ago
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more crimson peak HCs?
The Sharpes don't drink alcohol, except when they're running the con and/or courting investors and need to appear normal around other people (wine with dinner being de rigeur among the upper classes back then). Any interest they might have had in it was killed by their father's drunken rages long ago.
The baby wasn't the first time Lucille got pregnant, or the last. Just the only time she tried to keep it. before, and after their son died, she ended the pregnancies with a homebrew pennyroyal tincture and never told Thomas. There haven't been many, since malnutrition during puberty left her not overly fertile, but there have been others.
Edith had her ears pierced when she was eight, after Eunice taunted her for being "too scared" to do it. Her mother caught her in the bathroom with a needle, working up the nerve, and insisted that they have a jeweler do it properly- many had similar methods to modern professional piercers, albeit less sterile.
Lucille's were done by a sympathetic housemaid around the same age, the old-fashioned way, with a needle in the attic. For many years she just wore the loops of silk thread used to keep the holes open while healing, for fear that actual earrings would get ripped through her earlobes during a beating. After the asylum, where obviously no earrings OR thread were allowed, she re-pierced them herself.
This one is very common fanon: Lucille's hair was forcibly cut off in the asylum, and now she has hangups about it. Specifically people touching it. In OT3 scenarios, Edith has to earn Hair-Touching Privileges, and it's a very big deal when she does.
Edith calls the dog Dante, to honor his Italian roots.
The Sharpes' china set is NOT actually Royal Crown Derby Old Imari 2451, but an identical Davenport imari pattern that was produced until the 1880s. Just seems like something their family would have bought in more prosperous times, and the RCD imari started being produced only after Davenport folded. (Note: in the movie it is in fact the RCD imari- I own a teacup and saucer set used in the filming; can confirm)
Thomas keeps trying with the mines not because of actual interest, but because he's trying to be a better Sharpe patriarch than his father. He'd be much happier- and make more money -as a maker of luxury clocks and automata.
Lucille's French is better than Thomas' grammatically, but because he had lessons and she taught herself out of books, his accent is better.
Edith does not love Alan romantically, and never will. I always feel like pairing them up as a couple is kind of a cop-out for a movie that does so much to avoid the "this woman's love is a prize for this man to win" trope and show a healthy friendship where one person is in love with the other, but respects that she doesn't feel the same way (especially rare for M/F friends where the man is the lover). They might get married platonically after the events of the movie, but I don't like imagining that Edith falls in love with him. The official novelization does this. The official novelization is a bunch of dreck.
Eunice is aroace; she's only concerned about getting married so she can continue having a comfortable lifestyle. And maybe also get away from her mother. She'll never live to see a term coined for that, of course, but that doesn't mean the feeling doesn't exist.
And while we're on orientations, Edith is bi and thinks all women are. She's never talked about it with anyone or encountered any references to it in fiction (or homophobic medical texts), so she just blithely assumes it's the norm. Again, for women. She's not sure about men; probably they're the same way, though.
Lucille is gay and will never figure that out because, even though her feelings for Thomas are not normal adult attraction, the sex is physically pleasurable and they love each other so much generally that she'll never untangle it from what she (unwillingly) feels for other women. Even in an OT3 scenario, she will always assume that the ways she feels about Thomas and Edith are the same, so she couldn't possibly be An Exclusive HomosexualTM.
Thomas is straight. Very few people who've met him- and who knew that Gay was a possibility -have believed this, but it's true.
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