#Jason talks too much

[dizzyspice717]

I’m gonna say it-

The fact that Cass and Jason are (if I did my canon math correct and let’s be honest it’s DC it can never be perfect) if not the same age, very very close in age, does not get used enough.

Edit: I forgot to provide EVIDENCE: look at these dorks

[bookalicent]

yeah so this was insane

[daydreamerwonderkid]

Bruh, Bruce tried to fucking lobotomize him. Ain't no fucking way Jason just fucking forgives him omfg

[luxbub]

The bond between a girl and the middle-aged actor she saw in a movie years ago and now coincidentally has a big fat crush on is unstoppable

[gingermintpepper]

In my Zeus bag today so I'm just gonna put it out there that exactly none of the great Ancient Greek warrior-heroes stayed loyal and faithful and completely monogamous and yet none of them have their greatness questioned nor do we question why they had the cultural prominence that they did and still do.

Jason, the brilliant leader of the Argo, got cold feet when it came to Medea - already put off by some of her magic and then exiled from his birthland because of her political ploys, he took Creusa to bed and fully intended on marrying her despite not properly dissolving things with Medea.

Theseus was a fierce warrior and an incredibly talented king but he had a horrible temper and was almost fatally weak to women. This is the man who got imprisoned in the Underworld for trying to get a friend laid, the man who started the whole Attic War because he couldn't keep his legs closed.

And we cannot at all forget Heracles for whom a not inconsiderable amount of his joy in life was loving people then losing the people around him that he loved. Wives, children, serving boys, mentors, Heracles had a list of lovers - male and female - long enough to rival some gods and even after completing his labours and coming down to the end of his life, he did not have one wife but three.

And y'know what, just because he's a cultural darling, I'll put Achilles up here too because that man was a Theseus type where he was fantastic at the thing he was born to do (that is, fight whereas Theseus' was to rule) but that was not enough to eclipse his horrid temper and his weakness to young pretty things. This is the man that killed two of Apollo's sons because they wouldn't let him hit - Tenes because he refused to let Achilles have his sister and Troilus who refused Achilles so vehemently that he ran into Apollo's temple to avoid him and still couldn't escape.

All four of these men are still celebrated as great heroes and men. All four of these men are given the dignity of nuance, of having their flaws treated as just that, flaws which enrich their character and can be used to discuss the wider cultural point of what truly makes a hero heroic. All four of these men still have their legacies respected.

Why can that same mindset not be applied to Zeus? Zeus, who was a warrior-king raised in seclusion apart from his family. Zeus who must have learned to embrace the violence of thunder for every time he cried as a babe, the Corybantes would bang their shields to hide the sound. Zeus learned to be great because being good would not see the universe's affairs in its order.

The wonderful thing about sympathy is that we never run out of it. There's no rule stopping us from being sympathetic to multiple plights at once, there's no law that necessitate things always exist on the good-evil binary. Yes, Zeus sentenced Prometheus to sufferation in Tartarus for what (to us) seems like a cruel reason. Prometheus only wanted to help humans! But when you think about Prometheus' actions from a king's perspective, the narrative is completely different: Prometheus stole divine knowledge and gifted it to humans after Zeus explicitly told him not to. And this was after Prometheus cheated all the gods out of a huge portion of wealth by having humans keep the best part of a sacrifice's meat while the gods must delight themselves with bones, fat and skin. Yes, Zeus gave Persephone away to Hades without consulting Demeter but what king consults a woman who is not his wife about the arrangement of his daughter's marriage to another king? Yes, Zeus breaks the marriage vows he set with Hera despite his love of her but what is the Master of Fate if not its staunchest slave?

The nuance is there. Even in his most bizarre actions, the nuance and logic and reason is there. The Ancient Greeks weren't a daft people, they worshipped Zeus as their primary god for a reason and they did not associate him with half the vices modern audiences take issue with. Zeus was a father, a visitor, a protector, a fair judge of character, a guide for the lost, the arbiter of revenge for those that had been wronged, a pillar of strength for those who needed it and a shield to protect those who made their home among the biting snakes. His children were reflections of him, extensions of his will who acted both as his mercy and as his retribution, his brothers and sisters deferred to him because he was wise as well as powerful. Zeus didn't become king by accident and it is a damn shame he does not get more respect.

[necrotic-nephilim]

what's fun about shipping Tim with Dick, Jason, or Damian is he has, at some point, hallucinated all of them to comfort himself. even when he doesn't like them or particularly get along with them, he has to imagine/hallucinate them just so he has the power to go on. Tim's concepts of the Robin mantle and what it should be is so fun, because he respects the others through the Robin mantle. Tim worships Dick because he was the first Robin. he wouldn't be Robin if Jason hadn't died in the mantle. and a lot of his frustration with Damian is he feels Damian isn't honoring the mantle correctly. when you ship Tim with the other Robins you can't divorce their identities as Robin from it because Tim will always see them as a Robin first and that's so fun and fucked up. like.

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Tim perceiving Dick as *Robin* cheering him on, not Nightwing, which is the version of Dick that Tim actually knows? that's just. wild of him. he will always view Dick as Robin first, his personal hero but also the original of the legacy. his love for Dick is shaped by that.

and then of course, even when he's hallucinating/imagining Jason cheering him on, it's *still* through the lense of being reminded how Jason failed? subconsciously believing that Jason got himself killed because of his actions, and that being a lesson for Tim to learn from? Jason isn't a person to Tim, he's a moral lesson about how to be Robin. any potential idolization he could have of Jason isn't because he loves Jason, it's because of the lessons Jason's death taught him.

and then, even though him hallucinating TIm is from the New-52, which makes characterization all kinds of questionable, i do think it makes sense for TIm to hallucinate/imagine Damian after Damian's death in an attempt to cope with it.

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to an extend, he sees Damian's death as in part his own fault. and even hating Damian, Tim needs the comfort from this to cope with Damian being gone. he's angry that Damian even was Robin, and has to learn something from Damian's death and how it impacts the Robin mantle, and teenage heroes as a whole. like, Tim can pretend he hates Damian all he wants, even getting taunted by the image of Damian, but there's still an underlying love to their relationship.

i think that's just the fun of shipping Tim with any of them. you will never divorce Tim's views of them from the Robin mantle and how fucking Unwell he is about anyone else who's been Robin before or after him, to the point he has to hallucinate them comforting him when he's at his lowest. it's always going to be a little unhealthy, a little toxic, and driven by Tim's relationship with being Robin as well. i need more Tim being weird about Robin in these ships.

[yonemurishiroku]

Remember that Jercy fic wherein Percy holds Jason’s hand to show Nico that it’s okay to be affectionate with Will? Well it’s back. And it’s even more fun. 🤣🤣

The whole thing is just hilarious. Jason’s just having his sexuality crisis and Percy’s a little shit. 😭 And poor Will just got robbed into their stupid crush akdhajhdajjs.

Also? the joy that courses through me when Will started bickering with Percy is absurd. 😂

[cassandracain52]

My Batfamily piercing headcanons

(note: these are just my personal headcanons)

Dick: Has thought about getting a piercing but always ends up deciding against it because he doesn't like needles

Jason: Got his nose pierced when he was 14 and never told Bruce(don't ask how he hid it idk readers choice). Was pissed to find the hole had closed after his dip in the Lazarus pit, so he got it re-pierced but doesn't wear it often, usually just at night. And no of course it doesn't have anything to do with the fact he still hasn't told Bruce. Nope not at all

Tim: Got his left ear pierced when he was 15 because Steph told him a bunch of other skaterboarders were doing it and he ended up liking it. (she lied she just thought it would make Tim look hot. She was right) He doesn't wear it on patrol or for important meetings, but he still makes sure to wear it often enough to not let it close

Stephanie: Has both her ears pierced as well as a double helix piercing and a smiley piercing. She wants to get more but keeps changing her mind as to where.

Cass: Only has her ears pierced and that's only because Steph and Babs did it for her. Doesn't trust needles (see Batgirls #2)

Barbara: Has both ears pierced and got her belly button pierced when she was a teenager. Her belly button piercing ended up closing after she kept it out too long when recovering from getting shot and hasn't gotten around to getting it redone.

Duke: Has no piercings or a particular desire to change that fact, but he isn't really against the idea either. (Stephanie is determined to get that boy an eyebrow piercing because he would "totally own that look")

Damian: Went kinda crazy with it after Alfred died and he went off on his own. First Nika convinced him to get his eyebrow pierced and it just escalated from there. At present he has a grand total of 7 piercings with plans to get more. His piercings currently include his ear lobes, snake bites, his eyebrow, his nostril, and his septum. When Dick first saw him with all his piercings in he nearly passed out

Bruce: Had some wild teen years and got his ears, tongue, and septum pierced. Stopped wearing them when he traveled to train and they ended up closing. The only evidence they ever existed is a few stray paparazzi photos/videos and Alfred's word(he is sworn to secrecy)

Alfred: Everyone thinks the answer is a big fat "NO" as to if he's ever had a piercing but in reality he has had exactly One. When he was very young, before he met the Wayne's, he lost a bet and let an army buddy pierce his nose. A great deal of alcohol was also involved. He took it out after a few weeks when it got infected because the needle hadn't been sterilized and they were still out traveling around North Africa with little supplies. They never spoke of it again.

[happyk44]

Percy could kill with a snap of his fingers but won't because he doesn't understand or practice his own powers enough to realize he can do that.

Jason could kill with a snap of his fingers but won't because when he was young he preferred to feel the kill beneath his own hands, clenched tight between his teeth and as he grew he was told to only use his powers when absolutely necessary, otherwise hide them away and fight with only sword and shield.

Hazel could kill with a snap of her fingers but won't because she doesn't know how.

Thalia could kill with a snap of her fingers but won't because she is as unfamiliar with her powers as Percy, not because she doesn't understand them, but because she values the hunt and the chase and so sets them aside in favour of teamwork with her fellow hunters.

Nico could kill with a snap of his fingers and he will, when he needs to. He's kind, and patient, willing to fight until the bitter end in hopes that they'll cave, they'll desire life and give themselves up. But not everyone, not every creature, deserves to live and standing between him and his goals, ugly at the core of their soul, sometimes he'll decide they've lived long enough and snap his fingers, shattering their body into bits and pieces so violently their soul flings out and severs itself in the process.

[batfamscreaming]

(goes over onto my own post before accepting that I'm going to be making jason todd wank )

Jason is uncategorically a victim.

I think what keeps driving me away from the character is that's all people will recognize about him. Because he was absolutely betrayed by people he thought he could trust and then murdered, after a life of being failed by multiple institutions and maybe even failed by Batman and Bruce Wayne.

But then he comes back to life and he continues the cycle of victimization.

His killing isn't actually about crime. I know it. Bruce knows it. I assume the writers knew it at some point. He's not killing people because he thinks it will help, he is making more Jason Todds and Bruce Waynes as collateral in his attempt to prove that Bruce didn't really love him. He is using one argument to have a completely different one. A systemic argument to have an emotional one.

You cannot win an argument that neither side is addressing. The more people using the 'why didn't you kill the joker/anyone?' thing as an argument the further they get away from the actual root, which is, 'did you ever love me?' And even if Bruce literally out loud says 'yes,' that doesn't mean anything if Jason can't make himself trust it. And you can make a very strong argument that Bruce does not pass the test, and no matter how skewed the test was, a fail is a fail (related: discussions held under threat of suicide are a little difficult to trust)

The snarl that takes them farther from each other is interesting if you actually took it that way! But I don't think most people view it that way and instead take sides along the 'is killing ok' line, which is... not what the issue is

[thaliasthunder]

dissapointing percy and calypso never got to talk about this in person

[luvrodite]

thinking about laying your head on jason's lap while he's reading his book and playing with your hair..

sobs into my pillow this is all i want please

just...dozy afternoons when the sun is light and pleasant as it comes through the window. maybe you're at his apartment, where he's pushed his bed against the window and it's made a pretty little sunspot that spans across his entire, ridiculously large bed that you tease him for because one man does not need a bed that big. but he always just looks at you and grins a little and says it's because he knew he'd have you to share it with and you fake being sick because it's so utterly corny but it gives you butterflies all the same.

anyway. classes are out for the afternoon and you've come back to his, had lunch and the mid-afternoon sleepiness hits but you aren't fully tired yet, so the both of you are just curled up in his bed. he'd just done the laundry last night so the sheets smell clean and fresh, and they're so soft–perks of dating a rich boy, i guess, thousand thread count sheets that you consider nicking if the both of you ever break up.

he's got your head in his lap, fingers tracing over your hairline and temple as he reads one of his books. occasionally, he'll lift his hand and the scratch of pen against paper will fill the silence. you're dozing on and off, warmed by the sun and the faint detergent smell that reaches your nose.

i imagine if you've got your hair in braids, he'll run his fingers over the woven strands and fiddle with a braid aimlessly, maybe twirl it gently around a finger. fingers scratching lightly at your scalp, at the nape of your neck.

[local-limebug]

jason todd has so many underrated canon love interests. essence, isabel, artemis, and rose are all characters i love with him. like those are good ships. why is everyone ignoring them?

[sonknuxadow]

i know this debate has been going on forever but.

[nelkcats]

Danny Phantom is Pit madness

Basically, Danny ended in the Lazarus water, something bad happened in the Realms, it was too dangerous so the ghost decided to protect their king, they didn't let him help wich made him absolutely furious

Danny was made for PROTECTION, he needs to HELP, he needs to SAVE THEM, they couldn't take that away, they had no right

Ghosts knows that, but even if Danny is the strongest baby ghost in existence they didn't want to risk it, they love him, more that he loved himself

So they put him to sleep, in a safe place while they take care of the problem; of course they did not take into account that Jason Todd would plunge into those waters, combining him with his king, or rather forcing overshadowing, by accident

But even overshadowing his body, Danny was still sleeping, ¿the only thing that could wake him up? Anger, despair, and the need for protection, things that Jason held inside of him very well.

The problem is that Danny wanted to help earlier with the problem in the Realms and is the last thing he remembers, so he always woke up furious and completely instinctive rather than rational.

[eiitsuya]

reading tim's 90's run being a jason todd fan makes me want to tear my hair out, especially after reading jason's robin run (pre-crisis to be more specific, and he was just a silly little guy btw) like- my brother in Christ, tf u mean bruce looked happier with dick u literally know nothing and i know that he just keeps saying shit bout jason

i know it's because dc hated jason back in the day but still