Lord Death Man:
Lord Death Man: Hi.
Red Hood: Hello... who are you again?
Lord Death Man: I am Batman's nemesis, Lord Death Man and you-
Red Hood (sighing annoyed): I remembered your voice. The voice is back in my brain.
Orphan: Hi, Death man, good to see you again. All in one piece this time.
Lord Death Man: Good to see you as well. Thanks for sewing me back up after you tricked me into stepping on the land mine.
Orphan: It's the least I can do... even though you're incredibly annoying.
LDM: You are such a kidder. Now where is Batman! I am ready to fight him for he is my-
Red Hood: I fucking can't with this voice!
Red Hood shoots LDM in the chest and walks off. Orphan follows behind him.
Orphan: What do you think he wants?
Red Hood: Don't care, let's hurry before he revives himself.
Lord Death Man standing a few seconds later.
LDM: Hey, hey get back here and take me to Batman!
Red Hood: Run!
Orphan: On it!
The two run away as LDM chases them.
Orphan: Wait, can I borrow your gun?
Red Hood: Uh, sure.
Orphan takes the gun and shoots Lord Death Man in different fatal (but can't kill him) spots while counting: Un, deux, trois, quatre et cinq.
Lord Death Man drops to the ground, twitching.
Orphan: We have five minutes because I shot him in the throat and crotch, which takes longer to bounce back from. You have to shoot him more than once and I used all your bullets.
Orphan tosses Jason his gun back and walks off, humming. Red Hood looks at his gun and then Orphan. He follows behind her half impressed, but confused.
Jason: How did you figure out the crotch thing? Orphan, I need an answer to this.
...
Hours later
Beast Boy: Don't freak out, but there is a man with a skull watching us from a distance.
Dick Grayson sighs and continues drinking his coffee.
Dick: Not even turning around.
Beast Boy: Hey.. Hey buddy?
Grayson pinches the bridge of nose.
Dick: Don't wave at him.
Beast Boy: Shush, skull guy, who are you?
LDM: Um... Larry.
Beast Boy: Larry?
Dick Grayson's eye twitches and he crushes his coffee cup in his hand.
Beast Boy: Okay your reaction makes me want to ask him more. Hey, Larry... why the heck you spying on us?
Larry: Not you, the other one. He knows Batman and I am his nemsis!
Beast Boy: He's not in disguise, how do you know it's Nightwing?
Larry: ... Cause I have eyes. The eye mask doesn't hide much.
Dick lifts his head, enraged. Larry said his trigger word.
Dick: You're about to find out why he's called Lord Death Man. Larry, let's talk!
He stands and walks over to Lord Death Man and pummels him in the thankfully empty diner.
Beast Boy: Yeah, he doesn't like people insulting the eye mask.
...
Lord Death Man (barely) remains hidden behind a tree. Stephanie (in Spoiler disguise) spots him while apprehending Kite- Man.
LDM: 'Scuse me, have either of you seen Batman!
Spoiler: Oh Christ not you again.
Kite-Man: Who is he and why does he sound like skeletor? Great show, btw. You should check it out.
LDM: I am LORD DEATH MAN and I am Batman's nemesis!
Kite-Man: Nemesis?
Spoiler: Rival, he means rival.
Kite-Man: Oh like us?
Spoiler: Everyday I know you I regret my life choices. Lord- I can not call you that name, I'll just say Skeletor. Skeletor, Batman is not around... he fell into a portal and won't be around for a while. Long while. Leave Gotham while. The guy you've seen isn't the Batman... he's uh...
Kite-Man: A man bat! Who has no idea who you are. The real Batman won't be back for a week or so. Right, rival?
Kite-Man elbows Spoiler with a smile. She sighs then nods.
Spoiler: Yup, man bat and he doesn't know you. I can call Red Hood, Orphan or Nightwing instead. Nightwing especially wants to deal with you again.
LDM backed away terrified, running off at such a speed it leaves a dust cloud.
Spoiler (regret in her voice): Thank... you.
Kite-Man: No prob, rival. Thanks for saying Skeletor. Does he talk like that all the time?
Spoiler (nodding): His voice is stuck in my head like a mind numbingly catchy song. The skull is his head too.
Kite-Man: If his head is nothing by a skull how does he speak clearly?
Spoiler: Nobody has figured it out yet. He makes me appreciate the villains I have.
Kite-Man (happy): I needed that compliment, Spoiler. Thank you.
Spoiler: The moment I said that I regretted it. Let's get you to jail so I can go home.
Spoiler finishes locking the cuffs and turns Kite-Man around to walk him to a precinct.
Spoiler: You got a venue you for the wedding yet?
Kite-Man: Yes, the church we attend. Well she goes there more than me, but it's a nice set up. You want me to send you the invitation or hand it to you when we meet up again?
Spoiler (sarcastically): Oh hand it to me when we meet up I totally won't use it to have Batman track and arrest you.
Kite-Man (missing her tone): Good looking out. Glider says 'hi'.
Spoiler: Fan-tastic.
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What bothers me most about 'Orym is the reason Laudna killed Bor'dor' is iirc in the episode Marisha pretty clearly states Laudna didn't even really notice the nod? She didn't notice much of anything because she was fixated on that one objective, and nothing was going to get in her way. But of course, it still becomes 'Ashton and Orym were horrible for not stopping her.'
Yeah tbh I’ve seen a lot of people bring up that in 4sd Marisha said she was looking to orym and Ashton and Liam said that he wasn’t gonna let bordor leave that scene alive and he knew in that moment she might bring Delilah back but that Orym thought they might need Delilah for this fight and… Like… yes we can acknowledge the enabling, but I’ve seen so many people act like enabling someone to do something he would’ve done either way makes Orym an irredeemable person. I truly believe that the nod didn’t change anything and she would’ve killed bordor regardless. I remember while I was watching the episode thinking the nod felt almost like an act of tragic kindness in the moment. Like Liam/Orym could see how hurt and emotional Marisha/Laudna was in this moment and nodded to let her know that “its okay. I agree with you.” Almost as a way to attempt to lift the burden from her and let her know that she wasn’t alone despite how awful the situation was.
I think it’d be interesting for the story if Laudna was gonna kill him either way but was so traumatized by it all that she began viewing Orym’s nod as “the reason she did it” so she could deflect accountability for it all, BUT I really think she was gonna do it either way.
And like… everyone angry that “he is the reason she leaned back into her addiction” I mean since then Laudna and Imogen have talked about leaning into their dark side with each other and harnessing that power for the mission and nobody in the fandom seems angry at either of them for enabling each other. It feels hypocritical to be so upset with orym still after all this time because he… nodded in agreement with her killing a guy he was going to kill either way and thought they might need Delilah. (For the record I’m messy and I like drama so I’m always gonna support PCs enabling other PCs to do morally questionable things for the sake of the story like Imogen and laudna are doing with each other and like Orym did with the nod. Like yeah push that big red button what’s it gonna do? I’m curious and like messy stories)
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Can we get a ranking of speedsters most to least likely to kill
This thing is gonna be an upside down pyramid. Jesus, okay.
Tier 1 (Have killed, will kill)
Jay, Max, Dawn, Don
Tier 2 (Have killed, will kill again but is more prone to torture when angry and/or threatened)
Barry, Bart, Wally
Tier 3 (Hasn't killed but will if needed)
Avery, Ace, Jesse, Jenni
Tier 4 (Actual child)
Irey, Jai, Wade
My explanation for this? Simple. Tier 1 is all people who have actively fought in wars. Jay fought Nazis, he killed people in WW2. That's just what happened. He doesn't feel bad about it. Jay avoids killing people now because he isn't at war currently, but he will kill and has killed if he absolutely has to.
Max has also fought in wars and he has had a long and storied past throughout history. The man has seen and done things. Not all of them good. But yeah, Max has killed. Will he kill again? Unlikely. Unless someone is threatening his daughter or Bart, in which case, yes, it's very likely.
Dawn and Don also fought in a war and killed entire platoons of Dominators. They're unlikely to kill again because they're dead. But if they weren't dead? I'm pretty sure they'd still be fine with killing people in wartime situations.
Tier 2 is a little bit more complicated. Barry, Wally and Bart have all killed people. It's a last resort for them but it's still always an option. If they have to kill the bad guy to save the civilian then they'll kill the bad guy no questions asked. Some people have to die for the time stream to function correctly? Sure. Okay. Especially bigger bads like Darksied. They had absolutely no problem killing Darksied. Oh, and you better watch out if you threaten their loved ones because the people they love are worth dying and killing for.
They don't like it. They really don't like it. But they'll do it.
(Honestly though? Bart is unnerving unfazed by it)
Tier 3. So... This may come as a surprise but I actually haven't read all the LoSH comics? So while I'm fairly certain Jenni hasn't killed anyone, I can't say that 100%. Either way, she'd be down for it if it was the only option.
Avery would 100% be down for murder. So would Ace. That's the Iris West influence right there. Those two kids are not afraid to get their hands dirty and, while I'm fairly certain they haven't yet, I have no doubt that they will. These two just inherited Iris' moral code and she's totally fine with homicide.
Jesse surprises me because she's gotta have killed someone. I'm wracking my brain and nothing comes to mind but I don't buy that for a second. She's just got that homicidal energy, you know? She's 100% done it and will again, I just can't remember when it was.
Tier 4 is the children. Now... to be clear. I'm not saying that they haven't killed anyone because they are children. No, I'm actually fairly positive they have killed a significant amount of people. I'm saying that they are children and therefore do not understand the concept of death. They don't really understand that they've killed people and I don't really think they are any more or less likely to kill again. Until they understand it they are just destructive forces of nature. No malice or intent. Just sheer raw power.
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