#it’s about Bruce not Ollie

[irregularjohnnywiggins]

You ever have those moments where an idea just... won't leave your head?

[lesbian-cowpoke]

I feel like the Batman/Green Arrow rivalry could be expanded upon in fanon more than just "both rich asshole vigilantes"

Here are some topics they could compete on:

Who has the best kids

Batman "I could never kill people my moral code is as rigid as the stick up my ass" vs Green Arrow "literally everyone including me has killed at least once. (Excluding Connor and Cissie)

Philanthropist Bruce Wayne vs. Politictian Oliver Queen on who is doing more for the community

Bruce "was always rich" Wayne vs. Oliver "Loses his money so often idk if he's currently rich in comics or not" Queen

There are loads of things for them to fight about!

[mysterycitrus]

i think isolating the bats from their teams and external support systems is like….. functionally bad. like wdym red hood is on dicks speeddial but his actual soulmate donna troy isn’t. why is everyone in gotham. why do these people have no friends

[jimiscribif]

breaking news comic student actually draws a comic outside of their coursework :0!!!!

[gretahayes]

Happy Father's day to Oliver Queen

Roy Harper

And Wally West

The rest of y'all can choke ❤️

[sepia-stained-sunset]

[kiseiakhun]

Anyway, I think the worst thing Geoff Johns did to Hal's character is that he just made him boring. The fun thing about Hal is that he's the worst man to walk the earth. He's a trainwreck in the making. Every day he wakes up and thinks nothing and makes 20 awful decisions and messes up everything and goes to sleep content in a job well done and it's great. Hal is the Worst Man Ever™. He's a donkey in human form. By all means his personality and skillset makes him the perfect supervillain but he's a hero and he's imperfect and he claws himself back from the brink long after most people would've given up because that's who he is. That's at the core of his character. Even when he's below rock bottom, he never gives up, and god does he hit it, over and over again.

Johns just... erased all that complexity by making Hal the bestest greatest most precious lanterny lantern ever. Suddenly everyone loves him and treats parallax as just a 'hehe! Whoops!' and it sucks because if you take away the fact that Hal is a garbage human being he's just BORING. He's just a boring stereotypical stoic superhero. Who wants to read that! Who wants to read about Universe's Best Most Precious Greatest Man Gets Praised And Solves Every Problem And Is Never Wrong. Like at least when batman does it they try to give us a detective story. Usually it's not a good detective story but they at least try. Hal doesn't need to do detectiving. He can solve pretty much anything with the ring on his finger. He's invulnerable and powerful and perfect and let's be real, at this point he barely has a secret identity. There's nothing adding stakes to the story, not when Hal the best boy is here.

It's so fucking boring!! It's genuinely an injustice to his character. Hal's much more interesting when he makes every single bad decision, ever, and then has to dig himself out of the hole that he dug. That's someone I can root for. That's a character I can develop complex feelings about. If you just hand me the perfect being in creation I feel nothing. I'm already bored.

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

The New Titans #55 (1989)

Batman (2010-) #641

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Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016-) #6

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Batman and Red Hood (2011-) #20

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Batman (2016-) #138

They sure do bAT&Tman. They sure as hell do.

Yet Jason never thought this way about you.

[mrnoital]

I've been wondering for a while if Jason was being honest when he told Ollie

It felt like it was just a parallel moment leading up to their fight, but knowing a few extra facts about Jason puts a bit more weight into those words

Barely have to change anything to describe Ollie pretty well, but even more so

His favourite food happens to be one of Ollie's specialties, did Jay know Ollie has legendary chili?

Did he actually want to meet Green Arrow before he died?

[milowing]

i hate when people--especially dc writers-- act like damian is bruce's only child "i have a son" "he's become a father"

bruce doesn't have a son, he has four, and a daughter. bruce didn't become a father the day damian was born, he became a father when he realized that he needed to help a little boy who wanted revenge for his murdered parents. dick grayson was introduced in detective comics #38 in april of 1940. that's 11 months, 11 issues, and 11 appearances after bruce wayne was first introduced. that's years before alfred, or barbara, or the first batman and superman interaction. batman has been a father since before the idea of extended superhero universes existed. this is not new, and the idea that it is is frankly insulting, not only to the character, not only to the fans, but to anyone who's ever had family they are not blood-related to.

[batfamhyperfixation]

The fun game of which headcanon would I like better:

A) one of the batkids playing welcome to the black parade by MCR and Bruce knowing every word cause of course he does, he went through an emo phase (he's still in his emo phase), he listened to it on repeat when it came out to the point that even Alfred can recite the lyrics, it was his inspiration for the Batman mantle

Or

B) one of the batkids playing welcome to the black parade by MCR and Bruce BECOMING obsessed with it, like he's never heard it before but the lyrics hit him hard and he then forces anyone near him to listen to it on repeat for weeks cause he plays it everywhere he goes, he gets into all their other songs, and he, as a middle aged father of 7, goes through the MCR black parade aspect of his emo phase

[ccbatman]

I once said that I thought Steph would make a great Black Canary, and I still think that's one of the realest takes I've ever had.

Like, this moment seared itself into my head and never faded:

{ Robin 80-Page Giant }

[lesbian-cowpoke]

It is very important to me that the famous "I love you dad" hug between Bruce and Dick

Yeah Oliver and Roy had a dad hug in 93.

Mind you, Dick was introduced in 1940 and was Bruce Wayne's ward

Roy was introduced in 1941 and was Oliver Queen's ward

This is very important to me. It's very important.

[hawkzeyes]

Isn’t Batman’s contingency plan nothing for green arrow or was that comic Twitter running its mouth again?

I hate this a lot. Like a lot. Like somehow a heroes worth is based on what Batman thinks he needs to beat them, or at least that’s how people have interpreted it throughout social media; like Ollie isn’t worth a thought because of this one off comment.

I digress, yes in DCeased (which is Elseworld anyway) Batman says he doesn’t have a contingency plan for Ollie but literally after Ollie kills zombie Aquaman so who’s to say. That doesn’t sound particularly useless to me.

Anyways, later on, if I remember correctly (it’s been a minute since I’ve looked at it tbh) Bruce says his actual plan is to just use darts to paralyze Ollie’s arm?? Or something to the effects of breaking his arm. Which is so stupid because Ollie is one of the most stubborn characters I know and simply making his arm numb is not going to stop him 😭

I also think a lot of people misinterpreted that because Bruce and Ollie take jabs at each other all the time, but if you don’t actively read enough about them together you don’t know that (which most ppl on social media don’t actually read the comics. We have learned this. They just see one panel and run with it). Just like Bruce’s contingency plan for himself was the Justice League, it would probably be the same with Ollie because at the end of the day they’re just two dudes runnin around.

[cupcakes-and-pain]

Charles pays his employees really well because all the other rich people always say that it’ll drown their “hard-earned” money and he doesn’t need or really want all his wealth anyway.

Unfortunately, this only made him more popular, which meant even more people went to see his shows and bought his paintings, which made him even more money.

He is not pleased by this.

[goatsghost]

this looks like they’re halfway through a really miserable family roadtrip