#and if I said bruharvey.

[whipbogard]

Disgusting old men

[localgremlinboy]

Bruce: what do you have to say for yourself Harvey?

Harvey: whoops? :)

Bruce: okay, you killed a man.. so maybe try that again?

[found--family]

you killed my best friend was the first time harvey mentioned bruce

[bruciemilf]

I desperately want a bruharvey thing where it's established that two face and Bruce are dating, but Bruce and Harvey aren't.

Harvey suffers from a classic case of " I don't want to ruin the friendship" and Two Face, very gently, but firmly, tells him he doesn't give two fucks.

"I'm ruining him in the back of my Mercedes every week, so there's no downside for me."

"There's gotta be some rule you're violating with that."

Two-Face shrugs, carefully surveying shiny, costy jelwery they scavenged from the heist. Bruce deserves the best and only the best, after all. " Why are we going to Jason's play?"

" Because he spent a week writing it and it matters to him?"

" He's gonna be a tree!"

" He read lord of the rings. He's gotta lots of feelings about trees, that's the shit he's passionate about, pretend you understand and shut up."

I just. Adore the following image:

Just Harvey and Two Face being dads. It's just so. Like. When Dick updates his costume from Robin, they think, well, at least he was convinced to wear actual PANTS.

But then. The Nightwing suit is... Is something.

"It's MY body, MY choice, "

" Of course it is, birdie, I don't mean to come off as sexualising and denying your autonomy, but,--"

Two Face swiftly cuts him off, held back only by Bruce's smaller hand on his chest, " Put on some goddam pants, you loser!"

Dick, with all the hatred safely kept in his soul, " You're BALDING,"

"...You fucking take that back--"

Bruce is mom coded in the way that he's effortlessly intimidating when he chooses to be and Harvey's dad coded in the sense that everyone is scared of him BUT his kids.

Also, Two-Face simply refuses to discipline Jason. Why would he? He's the best, most behaved, sweet boy there ever roamed this filthy earth.

Bruce pinches the space between his eyebrows. " Why did you let my four year old touch your gun?"

" He said 'please' like we thought him to, didn't he?"

" Is the safety on?"

" OH SHI-- no, yeah, doll, I didn't put the safety on before letting my toddler play with a pistol. Of course the safety's on, who do you take me for."

Jason shoots a hole right through Alfred's tea, and the wall, bubbly giggle soaked in sunshine.

"Hn."

[rubydubydoo122]

What are your thoughts on some of the more popular ships? Fanon and canon. For example superbat, bruce x harvey dent, tim x kon, dick x babs, dick x kory, jay x roy, steph x cass, damian x jon, pennywaynes,...

I’ll list them out

Superbat (Clark/Bruce): I find this ok, but personally, I like it when the trinity acts more like siblings, so it’s not my favorite. 5/10

BruHarvey: lovers to enemies? The angst? Amazing. 8/10

Dickbabs: idk. It feels kinda boring to me. Mainly because DC ruined both of their characters in order for them to be together. 4/10

DicKori: they’re soulmates. Idk what to tell you. And maybe you can tell how biased I am. Right now, they are the opitome of right person wrong time. 10/10

Jayroy: I don’t like this ship. It reduces Roy’s character down to a prop, the age gap feels kinda icky and I personally believe in Aro/Ace Jason Todd. 1/10

Superbat (Kon/Tim): the only version of superbat I truly ship. Reluctant friends, to besties, to flirty friendship, to a game of cat and mouse on if that taunt was real or if they were just fooling around? 10/10

DamiJon: I think their age gap never works in their favor. Either Damian’s too old or Jon’s too old, and it makes me feel wrong. And in more recent comics, they’ve been acting much more like siblings than friends who maybe possibly have chemistry with each other. But I do think if you wanted to go the romance route, it could be double unrequited love that was never expressed. Like a 10yr old Jon had a crush on a 13 yr old Damian. Jon left for almost a decade and comes back, looses feelings for Damian, but a 14yr old Damian has feelings for an 18 yr old Jon, but it never works out. 5/10. Just like their Dads

PENNYWAYNESSSS: 100000000/10. Like are you kidding me, this is the best ship ever and I love it so much.

Honorable mentions:

BruTalia: 10/10. My favorite Bruce ship.

Brulina: 8/10. I like it… but I feel like it wouldn’t work out because Selina would get overwhelmed by the amount of wealth Bruce has. Like she thinks it’s what she wants, but it’s too much for her

Birdflash (Dick/Wally): 8/10. I see the appeal, they’re best friends with so much chemistry, but I feel like they would never date bc they value their friendship more and they’re both super busy

JayKyle: it’s the only Jason ship I like, but only because I want it to be one sided, with Kyle failing to flirt with Jason and Jason is completely oblivious and actually just hates Kyle but Kyle thinks Jason’s playing hard to get. (Kyles flirting is just arguing with Jason, so that’s why Jason never gets the hint) 7/10 +300 bc of hillarity

StephTim: I don’t like this ship because Stephanie deserves so much better, and Tim seems like the type to mansplain every little thing, and it would drive Steph up a wall. I also don’t like the notion that they would be friends after they break up. 3/10 bc they had that piano scene

DamiRae: 2/10. Garchel is a better ship, and I feel like their personalities are too similar.

Flatline/Damian: I love them. I think they’re cute, but I don’t see it lasting long. 4/10

StephCass: 9/10. No more needs to be said. But I won’t ever officially write them as being together within a fic bc Steph’s character deserves to be her own, rather than a lover of a Batfam member, and Cass has her own things to deal with

[moider-time]

Don't be shy tell the public abt our Romeo and Juliet bruharvey au 👀👀👀

👀👀 oh y'all ain't ready lol tbh I doubt I'm gonna do this justice (and bestie I am so stealing some of your lines cause your writing?? so good)

Let's set the scene. We have the Dents (Montagues) and the Waynes (Capulets) who are at war in the streets of Gotham. Christopher Dent thinks he can try and step to Martha and her empire despite so many other people telling him otherwise.

Gilda and Harvey recently split and he's not really in the best mental space. Well he thought focusing on work was a perfectly good distraction but according to Ivy "trying to burn out your retinas by reading legal mumbo jumbo is not fucking healthy, Dent!" So Ivy and Martinez decide that he needs a night out so they drag him to a fancy dress party to de-stress. And that's where he sees him and knows he'll never be the same.

Now Bruce hasn't been on speaking terms with his parents for a while. Not since he saw his mama Martha shoot someone. He still remembers how their blood soaked the pavement, their chest stuttering as if not sure what to do. What hurt even more was seeing Martha blank-faced, not touched by the wriggling of the man in front of her. (This couldn't be the same woman who played Princes & Princesses with him - that dressed him up and made him feel loved. It couldn't be. Why is it her?)

So he leaves, gets a small apartment in well, not the best part of Gotham but it could be worse. He focuses on his passion for art and he's not struggling but his job doesn't lend itself to financial stability. Especially not when he has his babies to think about. He still keeps in touch with Harley and when she invites him for a night out with her and Selina and rightfully brings up him rarely leaving his apartment, he can't exactly say no.

So he makes sure Dick, Cass, Jason and Tim are tucked in, kisses them on the forehead, triple locks the door and heads out. He doesn't think he'll spend that long, just enough time to relax and spend time with his sister and friend. And of course it's at this party that he sees him.

Both Harvey and Bruce can agree that they never expected to see someone so pretty at this party. They see each other across the room but find it hard to push past the ever shifting masses so they can satisfy the attraction between them.

Harvey can feel the heat of eyes across his skin, his scars. He doesn't mind when people stare after all, there's no point in caring about something you can't change. He'll always be him, and people will always be people. And anyway, he'd rather have them judge the ones on the surface. The other ones; the scars he and Jessica shared from the tip of their spine to the belt of their waists, those were worse. Those were personal. Those you kept in the house.

When they finally meet, their eyes lock and their bodies graze against each other. Bruce acknowledged him with fascination instead of disgust. As if his scars were a physical trait out of the ordinary, like purple eyes or blue hair, but not inherently disturbing.

"I like your rings," he said, dropping his doe eyes to Harvey's hands. He hated them because they were silver. He started loving them again.

"Do you want one?"

Bruce smiled with his whole mouth, "Only if you take some of mine"

The music shifts so something soft and slow and as they swap rings, their bodies begin to sway and dance. Harvey carries Bruce's sapphire blue ring on a chain right above his heart. A silent promise of sorts. Bruce wears a small coiling snake with a white diamond as one eye and a black one as the other on his thumb and even then it's a bit loose. And doesn't that sight just leave Harvey breathless?

Neither of them know when they start to lean in, when their breath starts to mingle. Bruce, standing on his toes and asking if Harvey's ok with this. Saying it's alright if he isn't, that he shouldn't feel pressur- And Harvey leans down to connect their lips while they're moving to their own music.

Kissing Harvey felt like nothing else he could've imagined. Bruce had kissed a total of 3 people by his age of 29. Selina in middle school, bored and grumpy with having to act the damsel in distress in their school play. Oliver, when they were 16 and curious, scrubbing their lips until they bled and Khoa. The last lover, the love who outlived all Bruce was.

Harvey kissing him now undid 4 years of pain. It awoke romance from its graveyard sleep and spread something lovely and gentle but aggressive and savage in Bruce still. They floated through the music, not noticing or maybe uncaring of the footsteps approaching them. Bruce floated when Thomas dragged him out the door, a snake on his finger and whiskey on his lips. He hoped Harvey floated when Jessica did the same.

[tabaquis-barking]

For the medical whump ask thing

💐 with Bruce visiting Harvey after The Accident, past bruharv vibes mayhaps 👀

"Awkward/Painful visit" BRUHARVEY YOU SAY

(Warning for implied child abuse)

"I told them I didn't want visitors."

That hoarse rasp in his voice is new. It's raw, sounding pink and fresh like ground beef.

Bruce hovers in the door, feigning oblivion.

"Oh? They must not have noticed me."

He'd snuck in.

Harvey lies propped up on the bed, head turned away from the door. Even from this angle, two strips of bandage are visible, wrapping around the back of his head.

Bruce knows what they're holding in place on the other side. He's seen the footage. Harvey knows he knows--there's nothing to say about it and no reason he should be turned away.

Bruce doesn't press. Weak rays of golden afternoon sun reach through the window, straining through the Gotham smog. They weave into Harvey's dark hair, caressing the back of his jawline.

Harvey's vanity is interesting in that he's always been rather ashamed of it. That shame was a red ribbon of humility that keept it from becoming narcissism--he's always been beautiful, he's always known he was beautiful, and he's always been a little afraid to confront his own awareness of it. It manifested in little ways, like hands that whipped out of his hair before the mirror when someone walked in. The presentation of Apollo was Gotham's to ogle at, but the pressure that went into creating and maintaining it was deeply private.

He'd never liked to be seen disheveled.

Bruce longed to tell Harvey it was never the manicured facade that Gotham had loved. They'd fallen for DA Dent, not Apollo, his wild hands and blazing passion in the courtroom. He wanted to tell him that it was Harvey Dent and, not Apollo, that he had fallen for--messy hair after long nights in the library, whispers of the better city he wanted to create for everyone, the little round scars scattered across his arms.

Everything stuck in his throat, somehow feeling flimsy and fake, like the cheap nothings he'd seen on his failed excursion through the gift shop. They didn't carry a card that said "I promise you're still beautiful."

He'd come back empty handed, as there was nothing worthwhile to bring, and sat in silence in the chair next to the bed because there was nothing worthwhile to say.

Bruce Wayne would come to regret that silence, later, over countless nights spent awake and wondering of things might have gone differently if he'd just said something. It didn't matter--he hadn't.

He'd sat there quietly, until the nurse informed him visiting hours were over. It hours after he'd sat down--long after the last of the golden light on Harvey's face had been eaten up by a Gotham night.

[daedalusdavinci]

Meaningful gestures dialogue: "Touch me again, and I'm pushing you off the bed."

Any bruharvey version, really, but it'd be fun to see a less common combo like twobruce or harvmatches

send me a meaningful gesture prompt!

i GOTCHU anon. im writing twobruce for a different prompt so ill write harvmatches for this one. gonna kill two birds with one stone and knock out the rogues server prompt for this month, “blizzard,” while im at it because i think this is my favorite prompt yet

It was a cold day in Gotham. Cold was the default already, but today was particularly freezing, enough that not even the Batman had deigned it worth it to leave the cave. About an hour of trying to stamp the cold out of his toes was enough to prime Harvey to accept Matches’s usually terrible suggestions, handcrafted to put off heists or distract him from the real goal with something more immediate and tempting. He would never get a chance to run this gig again. And yet, when Matches put his mouth against his ear and murmured promises of warm sheets, it was hard not to find the idea more appealing than standing around in the snow for another couple of hours.

When they got back, snow was piling on the window ledges. The world was dark and quiet, a flurry of specks barely visible through the heavy curtains that separated them from the outside world. The heater’s hum was loud as it worked overtime to keep Harvey’s shitty little safehouse warm. The lights were a soft gold that made Matches’s nose look even redder from the cold. Harvey had left heating pads under the covers before they’d left for the night just in hopes of coming back to a bed that wasn’t quite as freezing, but the heat had seeped out of them hours ago and cold had set back in. There was nothing to do but take quick, warm showers, and pile into bed with a drink that burned on the way down.

Even with the showers, though, Matches’s skin was like ice when he rolled over to try and press into Harvey. Harvey flinched away hard enough that he nearly spilled his hot chocolate, swatting at Matches’s hands. “Jesus, Matches. You’re like ice.”

“What d’you want me to do about it? Gotta warm up somehow,” Matches said, but there was a crooked grin tugging at his mouth that suggested his attempts to reach out again weren’t quite so sincere.

Harvey had countless, countless memories of Bruce sticking his cold feet under his legs, or shoving freezing hands against Harvey’s sides just to make him shriek. He wasn’t fooled. When Matches’s fingers trailed across his stomach, he swatted them off again. “Touch me again, and I’m pushing you off the bed.”

Matches snorted. He sat up more against the pillows and reached for his own mug, cupping both hands around it. “Thought you liked cuddlin’, boss.”

“You’re insufferable.” Still, somewhat begrudgingly, he allowed himself to lean into Matches’s side. He was still too cold, but it was lessened slightly by the distance of his borrowed undershirt.

Matches flashed him a smile. When he lifted his head for a kiss, Harvey gave it to him.

[ectonurites]

bruharvey

i generally do not have all that many thoughts on them, like, in terms of 'bruce x villain' ships it'd likely be on the higher end of my ranking than several others, but it's not something i seek out. it just exists and i passively go 'hm yeah ok' sometimes sdgfhg

THAT BEING SAID this particular edit of them lives in my brain forever and ever. life changing. show stopping.

[Send me a ship and I'll give you my (brutally) honest opinion on it]

[redjaybathood]

1, 5, 7, 8, 4, 11 and 15 for the problematique ships??

oh wow, that's a lot! thank you!

1) what is your favorite “problematic” ship?

Brujay. It is very interesting to get their canon mutual weirdness - their relationship is a mess, it's not healthy - and bring it up to 11. Both because it's like magnifying what's already there, to make it easier to drive things home: none of them is okay and they should, in fact, stay away from each other despite the fact it wouldn't be that hard not just to reconcile but also to respect each other and be deserving of said respect.

It's also curious to me that a lot of Bruce's fan ships are actually... have similar vibes to brujay, minus the "I was his father for 3 years or so" factor. BatCat - I can write an essay about similarities between Jason and Catwoman, and Jason actually feels jealous and replaced by her, at some point in his Robin era. BruTalia, BruHarvey, GhostBat. Especially the GhostBat. It's literally brujay without the incest. Whereas Jason's ships are the opposite. Like, Sladejay comes close but no cigar.

5) a ship you like but can’t find content for because it’s a fanpol fave?

I am like Jaytemis but not enough to go looking. I actually blocked a lot of jaytemis fans because they were dicks in tag. and on some discord server, don't remember details.

7) what kind of “problematic” tropes you like to put your ships through?

Sex while willingly or unwillingly mentally impaired, such as by alcohol (taken willingly), drugs (taken unwillingly), interdimensional demon possession, and having heat while also having a traumatic brain injury. There's also having sex not because you want but for reasons. Proving a point. Trying to manipulate. Things like that.

I think I have about... two fics where a character has sex because they want to have sex, and it ends badly in the second one.

Basically the moral of my stories:

In one of them, it was quite literal.

8) a character you think did nothing wrong but fandom demonizes?

Damian, easy. I find it irritating especially when he's used as Tim's foil. The little guy was brainwashed, and he still is dealing with the consequences of this trauma and his upbringing overall. It takes years to unpack it.

Talia - just leave her alone. "She traumatized Damian" - the authors did that. She was just a tool, and she was character-assassinated in the process. I mean, it is a bit wrong of her to be, like, in charge of an international murder organization but, we all know what the grip fandom has with her is not about that.

4) a ship you think is fairly healthy and unproblematic but the fandom has decided to hate?

JayRoy and joyfire holy shit. I know it stems, in part, from the hatred to New52 overall and Lobdell's RHatO in particular, and I hear them even if I don't care that much (I see jayroy potential even before New52, and after). But "stealing friends from Dick", "age difference", what the fuck else there was - just no. As long as Jason deals with his commitment issues and self-hatred, this is the healthiest relationship he has ever had with the exception of Artemis and Bizarro.

11) is there a fandom that ever made you think “how are there antis in this fandom, why are they even into this”?

Hannibal, Good Omens, and Sandman, to name a few. Curious that they think that if the creator has public acknowledgment it means that suddenly he's not proship anymore. Or if he is, that's okay, we won't be principled and leave/not join the fandom but rather go bully the proshippers who do not have money and fame.

Oh, and Game of Thrones/House of Dragons - while I don't know if Martin is proship, the subject matter he deals with is no more taboo than what fandom does. "I watch dragon incest show for the dragons, y'all weird" no it's you who's weird, you literally watching a show about incest and complaining about incest. "it's not glorified in canon" That's cute, you sure it is in fics? you read them? you read incest fics? Like, come on.

15) something cool about the last thing you watched/read/listened to!

Last thing I listened to was this youtube comics podcast: Grandpas reading comics (eng subs are only auto-translated so bear with it)

It's about Ukrainian comics, The Will, and as a person who has two issues of this comic book and no idea of what's going on, I was glad to find out this video exist. I did not finish watching it yet tho - so I still have no idea what's going on - I will keep you guys posted. After I buy the issue 3, maybe.

[emma-d-klutz]

I've said before that I like the concept of Batman with hanahaki specifically because his attitude would be, "This is no one's business but mine." But here are some extra ideas based on who the love is. (I know traditionally hanahaki is for specifically unrequited romantic love, but let me bend the rules for the sake of angst! It's about literally choking on your feelings/words and dying of love, damnit. As long as thats involved, what else matters?)

SuperBat - Bruce coughs Krypton roses. You know the ones. Bonus: Clark is married to Lois and very much in love with her, but he would go to whatever extreme length popped into his head to save his best friend, Bruce knows, which gives him even more reason to actively prevent Supes from becoming aware of his very stupid only-himself-to-blame medical condition

Brutalia - They both have it. And just like everything else about their love, it doesn't change anything.

Bruharvey - Oh nothing specific. It's just an obvious candidate, considering

A sidekick - Someone he fired, someone he hurt and sent away, someone who he believes is better off without him, someone who would come home in an instant if Bruce called, someone who Bruce says he has no right to call

Anyone else feel free to add more.

[lost-batarang]

'Harvey Dent - Beginnings.' (8k Characters) (BruHarvey)

Bruharvey fic I'm working on. This'll be a slow-moving fanfic, just FYI. Try and update atleast weekly, but I've had some bad personal things going on recently and might not be able to update all the time. I'll reblog it every update.- And let me know if you find any spelling errors, I try to proofread but I'm not the best at it. Also Harvey's origin of two-face is very, very different due to the fact I'm unsure of how to write his current one in a way that's not absolute garbage.

Harvey readied his tie and brushed off the dust of his pristine, brand new brown suit he bought specifically for this event. "This'd be the one to win over Gotham." He said to himself. He walked down the stairs and headed towards the door, locking it as he leaves. He leaned against the brick walls of his ageing household as he waited for his ride to arrive. He reached for a cigarette, taking a lighter and cigarette from his pocket. He smoked for a while, before his ride reached him; an old friend promised to bring him to the event. Bruce Wayne promised. Bruce Wayne didn't make it. He was 'busy' with Wayne enterprises. Again. "Bloody hell. Is this what our damn relationship means to him? He can't even show up to my major event…Bruce, you poor sod." Harv thought to himself, a depressing feeling washing over him. He got in the black, sleek newly-bought car, a gift from Bruce, and told the driver the directions to the event. Halfway to their destination, Harvey asked the driver; "Hey. Did Bruce- How was Bruce busy? Y'know, with Wayne Enterprises." He said in a disappointed tone. "Busy? Bruce is always busy. We're not told how, or why, but he's always busy; But not busy with Wayne Enterprises." Replied the driver. "Not with- Bruce…What the fuck are you doing?" Harvey spoke, turning off the intercom, cutting of conversation between him and the driver as they arrived at their destination. Harvey left the car, tossing the driver some coins as he left. The coins didn't seem to be worth much- but they were vintage, and worth much more than what they seemed. Harv heads to the backstage, readying himself for his speech to the people of Gotham. Then, he heads off to speak. "People of Gotham city. Crime has been surging, with recent reports of twisted, sick, villains like 'Joker' committing horrendous crimes all over Gotham- But I want you, my people, to know one thing; Gotham will be safe. We will protect it. We will get past this- this blight on the city. Joker will be charged for his crimes, and likely killed for them. We're Gotham's children. We've been through worse than some clown fucker terrorizing the streets in a purple suit- We'll endure this. I know we will. It is of upmost importance to me that you all are safe, and I'd be willing to die to ensure your safety. Me and Bruce Wayne- wish he could've been here, but he had important business to attend to- have partnered together to create a project to rid Gotham of homelessness. To supply the struggling citizens of Gotham with food, water, and a place to sleep safely. For once, ol' Brucie is using his wealth to do something productive, am I right? Ha, still, Wayne Enterprises has been a massive help for Gotham, and I'm happy to collaborate with Bruce Wayne. And…That's all." Harvey said, the crowd of people cheering and clapping for him as he leaves and heads backstage yet again. He feels proud. Hasn't felt that in awhile, with the little progress all his projects were actually making. Still; there's hope for Gotham, and Harv isn't gonna stop until that hope is visible to all of the city.

Harvey called a taxi and headed back to his house, unlocking his door and changing into some more comfortable clothes- a simple, plain t-shirt and some trousers. He reached for his phone, and called Bruce Wayne. It went to voicemail. "Bruce, you bloody idiot…" He said under his breath, sighing. "Hey Bruce. If you get this message- uh, voicemail, I'd like to let you know that the speech went great. Would've been great if you could've made it, but hey- being a CEO must take up alot of your time nowadays. I was thinking maybe we could hangout- go for a coffee, sometime, like we used to. After all, if we're working on a project together, we may aswell get to know eachother better.- Speaking of the projects, our partner project isn't going so well. There's been interruptions- major ones. The homelessness project is gonna have to be delayed for longer- If we could get the Joker off the streets and into the grave, we could have a real shot of saving this city, Bruce. It's just…this city makes it so damn hard to love it. But I do. We do.- Or atleast, we're trying." Harvey left the voicemail, turning off his phone and microwaving a pasta for himself. He sat at his kitchen table and ate his pasta as a cool breeze washed over him; he'd left the window open. Again. "I'll close it later." Harv said to himself. He ate his pasta, threw the plate in his sink, and crashed onto his sofa, falling asleep. He's too tired to go to his actual bed. This'll do for now.

Harvey wakes from his sofa, and immediately goes to check his phone for a response from Bruce; he reaches the messages, and…nothing. Bruce hadn't even bothered to respond. "Fucking- Ugh, Damnit Bruce!" Harvey yelled, throwing his phone aside. He holds his head for a moment, breathing deeply to calm himself. He's going to meet Bruce and find out what the fuck he's been up to, even if it kills him. Harvey puts on his suit from yesterday's event, throws on some shoes, and leaves without even doing his tie. He forgets to lock the door, heading straight to call a taxi; going to Wayne manor. He'd always show up uninvited when him and Bruce were closer. Usually by sneaking through a window. Harvey smiles slightly, thinking of those fond memories, as his taxi arrives at the manor. Harvey's smile quickly fades as he sighs and heads to the door; he knocks, but no answer is given. Not even Alfred. "Alf?…You in there? I'm here to see Bruce." Harvey says to the door in a confused tone. "Everything okay in their, Alf? Bruce?" Harvey continues, beginning to worry. "I- I'm coming in." Harvey draws his gun from his suit pocket; a necessity when you're an important figure in Gotham. He shoots the lock, blasting the door open. "Bugger-" Harv says before firing, the gunshot alerting many in the area; although in Gotham, gunshots aren't usually something you should follow, or inform anyone about. Or you might be in more trouble than it's worth. Harvey barges into the manor, holding his gun close to his side. "Bruce?…Bruce, I don't want to intrude- but well, I'm intruding." He says as he steadily walks up the manor stairs, scanning the area as he walks pass. Then, he looks at the clock near the top of the stairs; the handles are stained with blood. Harv rushes over to them without a second thought, whispering to himself as he investigates the clock handles, "Aw Bruce…you better be okay, mate." He says, worried as he moves the clock handles just enough for the clock to move and reveal a new, hidden part of the manor. "Jesus- What the fuck is this?" Harvey says as he walks through the hidden entrance, and then begins to call for Bruce; "Bruce! Bruce, you okay!?" He cries out, just as Alfred walks past with his hand over an unmasked, injured Batman. "Bat- Bruce!? Bruce, what the fuck!?" Harvey yells, running over to Bruce. "Harvey, it's not what it-" Bruce tries to say, but Harvey cuts him off; "I know what it fucking is. This is why you've been busy, isn't it? You're the damn Batman? Bruce, you could've told me- we can do so much for this city with you as the Batman! You've been stronger than the GCPD, and more effective than any of our projects- This, Bruce, this is great!-" Harvey speaks, before Bruce interrupts him, "Harvey. Please, this needs to be a secret- I can't have you involved in this. You could get killed. This is dangerous work, and I don't want you getting involved." Bruce replies, Harvey stopping for a second. "Bruce, you- This, I'm already in dangerous business, Bruce! I'll respect your wishes, but please, consider working with me. We can do so much for this dying city if you'll just listen!" He says, leaving the batcave. "But I'll respect your wishes, as a favour to an old friend." Harvey heads out of the manor, returning to his house. He collapses on the sofa yet again, and falls asleep after a couple minutes of screaming into a pillow and trying to process what happened- and what he could've said better.

[roobylavender]

i read your post about a potential harvey murdersueicide and while that is a fantastically tragic idea i cant help but notice you always believe bruce should meet his demise early😭 as in, he doesnt get to experience true old age.

its not actually that i disagree or even not understand where youre coming from. i feel like, since dc insists batman has to exist and has to be a big player, the main character, gotham can never truly improve. because stories need to be told with him. theyre stuck, the city is stuck, and thus bruce is stuck, he only continues because he feels he is needed. in order for him to retire i think hed have to look at the progress hed made and go, yes ive done enough, but that will never happen because books need to be sold.

i think there could be potential for him to reach this conclusion and retire in a more limited series like a show or movie series, but do you think hell ever get to a point where he feels comfortable naturally retiring, and if so what would you think needs to happen?

i should probably clarify the reason i'm so invested in the idea of bruce dying early is bc denny o'neil said that by his early 40s bruce would either be married to talia or be dead and since he vehemently opposed the former i imagine had his editorial stint continued that he would have led us to a conclusion of the latter. so in my case it's less about a supposed impossibility for him to ever escape the life he leads as batman and more me being morbidly intrigued by this ultimatum denny set for the character. i'm not sure what his intended end for bruce might have looked like but ig in my imagination i either love the potential drama of the bruharvey murder sewercide or the sheer inconsequential nature of bruce dying while saving a life. not anything too grand or complex but simply being caught in the wrong place at the wrong time and dying as anyone would, while doing something he wholeheartedly believed in. like a car crash. the dark knight rises for all of its faults has a few plot decisions i dearly love, bruce's retirement and passing on of the mantle being one of them, but i think that's a development that, complementary to what you said, works more in a medium where things have to end. the trilogy was finite so it made sense for bruce to move on. comics however are never-ending. and even beyond that ig i don't think bruce would be the type to retire even if he did sort out a lot of his emotional issues or feel like the city was on the right path. he's a very stubbornly selfless person and so long as he has a working body he'll be putting it to use. in that sense batman beyond definitely took a logical path in that bruce only gave up the mantle when he could no longer physically maintain it. the only problem there was that the timmverse's bruce is progressively depicted as an isolated loner so his retirement feels almost like a defeat that is subsequently revived once terry enters his life. and maybe there is a world where bruce could sort out his issues and retire of his own volition instead but for some reason i find there to be more meaning in bruce dying doing what he believes in. and maybe he's happy and gotham is on a path to being better bc he's reconciled with his children and maybe he's slowly trying to dedicate more of his time towards abolitionist work on the ground rather than encompassing all of his spare time in vigilante work. but i would like to think if he died in the mask at a point where his life is like that that it would still be meaningful. bc the mask would no longer be a prison. it would be what it was always intended to be: the truest representation of himself and his desire to help others

[bruciemilf]

Bruharvey but Harvey desperately has to impress single parent Bruce Wayne's flock of protective kids.

OHH, I think both Harvey and Two Face acknowledge that, while Bruce loves all his children dearly and needs all of their blessings, they can be bribed one way or another;

Harvey's a whole mafioso that robs banks on the regular. He becomes the personification of " daddy's money."

Dick? All the gym equipment he can imagine.

Damian? Lifetime access to the Zoo + petting privileges.

Tim? His own coffee shop.

Cass doesn't ask for anything besides her dads happiness and safety, but Harvey buys her a ballet studio cause she's his princess

Duke? Again, doesn't ask for anything. " I'm frankly offended that you think my honor and love has a price, --"

" So you don't want your own Batmobile?"

"...Hold on. Let's talk."

But. That being said. There's one child whose word reigns supreme over everyone else's. The one lounged on Bruce's lap like an evil cat.

Jason.

He can't be bought; Or flattered. Or impressed. Or be reasoned with.

Let's face it, the guy who masterfully bended an entire criminal network on a rebellious whim has little reason to value your word over his.

Harvey tried everything. A library cropped straight out of beauty and the beast. A fully paid college tuition for creative writing and English literature. Sending Tim to Mexico.

Nothing.

"Well," Harvey looks at Alfred while downing his 4th glass of whiskey. Jason had just BIT HIM after he tried petting Bruce's hair, " If I made YOU like me, this should be nothing, right?"

Alfred looks at him as if he's a particularly stupid puppy.

"...You like me, right, Alfie?"

" You're breathing, aren't you?"

[roseandgold137]

A and Q ^-^

A- omg so many. Timber of course. Timberbartkon? Wonderful. Timberbartkonlonniedannyalibensloboiveswesleypreston etc bc I think it’s hilarious? Catch me saying that ten times fast it is hilarious and I stand by it. Brutalina is also amazing. Dickory my beloved. Steph x Bailey. Janet x Talia x Selina x Dana. Bruharvey. Harlivy. Clark x Lois. The list goes on, can’t forget Wally x Linda with their side of Dick

Q- I said stephcass before and again it’s not bc of canon or anything but it’s not really for me

[communistchilchuck]

boostle and bruharvey for the ship bingo aksjfhsk <333

north.

boostle

so “why the fuck” is because as i said ive already made my thoughts quite clear FHDKDJD. they really are one of my favorite and most strongest pairings of all time, hit every box for what i like, make me happy as a gay guy, and have one of the most insane relationship arcs in comics history with so many different eras that mean so much for their development together (though as ive said i love them separately from each other as well). id say more but i wont ramble. theyre imperfect and perfect simultaneously. their love for each other has broken timelines.

bruharvey

same with the “what the fuck” answer. my first-ever #real dc ship. i love them so much but i cannot separate the tragedy and dramatics from their relationship and so i don’t enjoy it in a “they should end up together and settle down” way even when i think outside the context of the comics, but i can find myself entertaining the thought of what if they were given that opportunity. forever and always one of bruce’s best pairings. thematically and historically vitally important. happy divorce, you two