#robin discourse

[thesulkycroissant]

Bruce (as Batman) is hard on people. He just is. What's interesting about is that in No Man's Land, it's a pattern: with Azrael and Huntress, he gives them clear and specific directives, and he tells them he believes in them. And they both fail. The tasks they were given are difficult, maybe difficult bordering on impossible, and they both express that, and Bruce isn't interested in hearing it, before or after the failure.

Enter Dick.

Bruce gives Dick a basically impossible mission (go take back Blackgate by yourself). Dick expresses that he can't do it. Bruce says, I have confidence in you. Dick gets it done. He's severely injured, his life was at risk at all times, but he got it done.

And I already know, I can already tell, that they're not going to give me any follow-up.

Failure is addressed. Success, even at tremendous cost, is expected and unremarkable. And I feel like that has to play into undersranding Dick and Bruce's dynamic.

[sdv-confessions]

Sending this in on nations women’s day yay, and in honors of that, WOMEN IN STARDEW VALLEY ARE INTERESTING. Y’ALL IUST DON’T CARE ENOUGH TO LOOK. Hayley has one of the best character arcs in the game but, oh no, she’s “mean” but Shane’s just fine!! (not a dig on Shane, love him, just some of his fans) Maru can be funny asf if you take the time to READ HER DIALOG.

Jodi is one of my favorite characters by far. She loves her sons and husband but also wishes she had more freedom in her life. She’s just a kind soul who cares about her family, just wishes she could’ve had it a different way. Robin has an up and down relationship with her husband which results in a complicated one with her son. IT’S AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC. SHE IS NOT BORING BECAUSE SHE IS A WIFE AND MOTHER.

Penny has her whole Pam thing and not to mention, lots of quirks of her own. Like being bad at cooking which results in some really funny scenes. While I am not a fan of her, Caroline, has interesting family dynamics. And on that topic Abigail is more than a “manic pixie girl” god forbid a woman be into the occult. Again, she has really interesting dynamics. Even though her family dynamics are tense, she still says “I’m wearing our matching family sweater under my coat… Don’t tell Dad!” or something like that. She clearly still loves her family despite the ups complications. And she has a whole friend circle with Sam and Sebastian.

Emily is amazing. She has so many interest and quirks. And her relationship with her filled with so much thought. They’re so different, they argue and tease each other, but they love each other. They are all they have. Leah has a whole life before Pelican Town. She has dreams, hopes, aspirations, messy ex’s. Listen to me and LISTEN TO ME CLOSE. JUST BECAUSE A WOMEN HAS ROMANCE IN HER LIFE. DOES NOT MAKE HER BORING.

And then you got sweet granny Evelyn. Oh my Yoba, I love this woman so much. She loves her husband and grandson so much. Always tending to plants, making cookies for everyone. I would die for this woman. And then, on the opposite end, Jas. She is such a little sweet heart who deserved so much better in life. Her dynamic with Shane is so special. And her friendship with Vincent in Leo. Ugh. There is so much to this kid and she gets so much shit for being “creepy” THATS A CHILD.

Let’s move onto her god-aunt (?) Marnie. I will say it again and I will say it again loudly. JUST BECAUSE A WOMAN HAS ROMANCE IN HER LIFE DOES NOT MAKE HER BORING. Her relationship with Lewis is such an interesting part to the valley that adds so much drama and depth to these characters. The fact she takes Shane and Jas in, the fact she cares and worry’s so much for Shane. The way she cares for her animals.. ugh. I love her.

Moving onto our out of town girlies, we got Sandy and Birdy. Sandy is such a mystery, I love her. I do wish we got to know more about her, but her mystery is part of her charm. She’s just so fun to talk to. I wish I had more to say but unfortunately I only have around 5 hearts with her due to not going to the desert to much. And then Birdy… Her storyline is so tragic. I really wished we got to behind her. Her decision to watch over her husband’s bones is so UGH. No one should force her to move on. She has made her choice and it’s powerful.

And I think I’ve covered all Stardew woman. So maybe take from this rant… to read dialog. Because these woman are strong, flawed, and amazing.

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[thesulkycroissant]

I've seen this post a few times and it's funny, but also

Damian is a child

So

"Oh, Damian was such an asshole" "The bats tried to integrate him he's just ungrateful!" "He had no reason to be as rough or rude as he was"

If I was raised as a prince and suddenly got sent away to the most corrupt, dangerous, and disgusting city in bumfuck New Jersey, I would be worse. The fact that he didn't burn that bitch down makes him a better man than I could ever be

If anything, he didn't crash out enough

[thesulkycroissant]

HEY

[sdv-confessions]

Okay. I'm ending the Robin/Demetrius Tomato-Bed Debate once and for all.

Guys. Demetrius. Is a scientist. Robin is a carpenter. They live together, and work together, in the exact. Same. Location. And have so for years. Long enough to raise two children together.

Maru and Sebastian are old enough to drink.

Meaning Robin and Demetrius have been together for at least, AT LEAST two decades.

Assuming Robin was at least 21 when she had Seb and that at minimal there's about 3-5 years between Seb and Maru, that means these parents are, at minimal, between 44-50 years old.

By the time you're in your 40s-50s, you have no excuses left for this kind of behavior. Neurodivergent or not, you have entered asshole territory.

Robin should know better than to just assume Demetrius would bring home what's considered "fruit" by neurotypical standards, because they've been married that long.

And Demetrius should know better than to tell Robin being artistic is being wasteful, both because they've been married that long, and you'd have to be a pretty dumb scientist to not realize you're being an ass.

Signed, a very tired Autistic Gamer.

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[darishima]

made a chart of the straw hats' skin tones with the colors being screencapped directly from the episodes, to show how much they've lightened. this is more than just an "artstyle change" or "design evolution" or "just the timeskip" this is blatant racism/colorism. it's fucking ridiculous and i don't understand how toei is continuously getting away with it please reblog btw, i think this is something people should see

[thesulkycroissant]

I think so much of Bruce and Dick's relationship can be explained by the fundamental fact that Bruce didn’t ever treat Dick like a child. Not maliciously, but as in he genuinely doesn't seem to understand that there is a difference between him as an adult and Dick as a child. Their dynamic is really interesting as a result, and of course Dick is going to feel weird and displaced and angry about things like Bruce trying to tell him no and then Bruce taking in another child and actually?? Parenting him??

I think that all of the Batkids get a different version of Bruce as father. But I think part of what makes his relationship with Dick so unique is that he was almost like a teen dad when he raised him. Yes, he was well into his late twenties early thirties but this man had never had a pet let alone been responsible for another life when he started raising Dick. He knew nothing about children. So of course he let Dick drink coffee and pull all nighters with him, started teaching him how to drive at eight years old, let him bulk up on protein shakes instead of eating regular meals and read any kind of book he could get his hands on. He vents about his life to Dick, no real boundary of parent and child. He’s the reason Dick climbs and jumps from every high point in the Manor— he’s a flying Grayson, he can handle himself. Until Alfred steps in starts explaining to Bruce that children need boundaries, that children are fragile. Dick still jokes about some of the things he was allowed to do as a child, Bruce still cringes.

[the-fictional-wife]

I already knew this bitch @luv-lock was weird when they hardcore gender bent all female characters with a fem reader (ooo im so soft and woke I'm so scared). You can always tell in someone's vibe when they're a right-wing ignorant asshole who finds even being LGBTQ "woke" because they were confused and curious when they were younger. Not even mentioning they sling the r-slur at people as an insult and spew misinformed lies about America's state right now....while not even being American.

Anyways, this isn't a trauma competition of "who has it worse", fuck ICE, fuck you trump and fuck all you right wing losers who are nothing but hateful and legit kill off LGBTQ, black people and people of color alike, and support the illegal detainment and deportation of immigrants- REGARDLESS of citizenship status (yes they're taking citizens and people in their court appointments too shocker). Same with you fucks who support ICE, police, and military harming peaceful protesters as well as the damn press.

People's human rights are being infringed on here and being taken into centers where no one knows what's fully happening to them and you bitches wanna sit up here talking outta your ass- you shitted more on democrats then half of America who voted that man in, the world is sick even in fanfics.

[casscainmainly]

Okay gonna analyse some common Duke beliefs just for quick and easy reference. Some of these are up to interpretation (as indicated), but these are some common things I see that aren't quite accurate to Duke as a character.

Claim: Duke started We Are Robin

True or false: False. Alfred started We Are Robin, and the entire core cast of We Are Robin was already there before Duke.

Claim: We Are Robin is a gang

True or false: kind of tricky? They're technically a gang in the most general sense of the word, but 'gang' has racial implications that I think people gloss over (We Are Robin is primarily composed of kids of colour). Movement is a much better term, and We Are Robin doesn't self-identify as a gang to my knowledge.

Claim: Duke led We Are Robin

True or false: tricky. While Robin War has him as the leader, for the majority of Duke's time in We Are Robin he does not give orders or act like a leader at all. We Are Robin generally doesn't have a leader. Duke certainly has leadership abilities, but WAR is not the best showcase of them. Up to personal interpretation though.

Claim: Duke is a Wayne

True or false: False. Duke is not adopted.

Claim: Duke is intimidated/scared of any Batfamily member

True or false: FALSE!!! There is unfortunately some horrible comic writing, but for the VAST MAJORITY of Duke's appearances he is not scared of any Batfam member. He's certainly not afraid of Damian, Jason, or Cass.

Claim: Duke can emit light

True or false: probably?? His powers are constantly in flux and he develops new abilities all the time, so who knows. But he is much more likely to use light to turn invisible/manipulate his perception of light than attack with them (for which he can use his shadow powers). Up to personal interpretation/fun headcanons.

Claim: Duke jumped out of a cop car

True or false: True, but it's a Tom King comic and he's written horribly in it. If you want another example of him not being the 'sane one', I recommend using the time he got shot by a bullet and thought about how baller it was.

Claim: Duke is new to the Batfamily and doesn't know their dynamics

True or false: Please stop 😭 It's been like a decade since his introduction there's no need to make him the clueless newbie. Also he's a fiercely intelligent detective who makes references to Jason's daddy issues, there's no way he's still in the dark about most of their relationships.

Claim: Duke tends to obey Bruce's orders

True or false: FALSE. Duke sneaks out even during his training days, and for the most part operates independently. He generally has a grudge against authority of all kinds.

Claim: Duke is very sunshine-y, bright, and optimistic

True or false: False. I get where this one is coming from (sunshine boy is cute I love it), but while his powers are light-based, his personality is not. He's pragmatic, rude, skeptical, and often disillusioned. He is an optimist in the sense that he believes in community and change, but he's nowhere near a bright, bubbly kid.

Claim: He's the normal one AND/OR he's just as crazy as the other bats

True or false: Both of these are somewhat false. Duke is not the normal/sane one, he's literally a vigilante how would that make sense. But he also thinks of himself as more normal than the others (at least at one point). Duke discourse should move on from this debate, both these statements obscure what makes Duke unique and interesting.

Claim: Duke designed his Signal outfit

True or false: False. This isn't really a belief I just see people assuming he designed it, he didn't though, Bruce gave it to him. There's no indication he had a hand in the design. Bruce actually gave him TWO designs, I think Bruce just loves giving him outfits tbh.

Claim: Duke's parents are still under the Joker toxin

True or false: Technically false. His mom was healed in Urban Legends #19, but Duke's sporadic appearances mean this was never really followed up on. I have no clue what happened to Doug. Up to DC to SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!

Claim: Anything to do with his portrayal in WFA

True or false: False. Literally everything. (The only, and I do mean only, thing to take from WFA is his interactions with Damian)

Okay that's all, I hope that was helpful to anyone out there!!! There are tons of things here that are my interpretation only of course, the best way to get to know Duke is to read his comics. We Are Robin and DC Rise of the Power Company is waiting for you <3333.

[glitter-stained]

"why does fanon love making Jason care about his goons when he kills them in canon" I'm sorry to tell you that Jason's Robin run is a significant work for his characterization. And that Willis Todd was in fact a goon. Like, that's a significant thing that happened.

(jaybin fans exist not every Jason fan is a hardcore UTH fan who thinks everything about Winick's writing is pure and just and the right way)

[thebatsandthebugs]

my 'hottest' dc take is that dickbabs and dickkori are both interesting, complex ships which can be written to have one be endgame/one break up without reducing/mischaracterising any of the characters involved. It literally comes down to personal preference on which you like better. Can we stop fighting (and give babs and kori solo runs please)

[eddiebloombug]

all comic fans know how to do is: develop superiority complexes based on their personal perceptions of a character, eat hot chip, and lie

[thesulkycroissant]

Thinking about those panels where Tim sticks around waiting for B to come talk to him after Tim saved his life, and Tim anticipating that B is gonna yell at him and tell him he couldn't ever be Robin, and B actually telling him that sometimes being Robin is about being willing to break the rules instead. I'm thinking about this specifically in conjecture with the panels from World's Finest: Teen Titans where Dick goes home after telling the Titans his secret identity to confess to Bruce about it, expecting B to take away Robin forever (!!!), but instead Bruce just tells him he's grounded for a while and then compliments him on being able to lead a team and tells him that he doesn't know if he (Bruce) would be able to do it as well.

It's just interesting to think about what it is about B that compels his children to face up to their acts of defiance and say, "I know you said not to but I did it anyway, and I'll take the consequences but I know I was right," and then to see them ecstatic and happy when Bruce actually hears what they're saying because he was LISTENING and anyway uh I'll never be normal about the mantles of Batman and Robin or about Bruce Wayne and his kids

[sdv-confessions]

Demetrius anon here! gonna respond to both of the other asks, kind of!

I agree with both of you!

For the tomato thing, however, he was right, and I think most people know that. I think the issue people have is that usually, when people ask for a fruit, they typically do not mean tomato, even though is it one. I've heard some people say they felt it was condescending, and while I understand why they may think that, I don't think that's the case with Demetrius! I already explained why in the last post lol. That scene seems more like a nonissue to me though, that whole little ordeal could have easily been fixed with a "hey, what type of fruit do you want?" "anything but tomatoes!" you know? they both left it up in the air and that's on both of them. They definitely need to communicate better.

onto the Robin and Demetrius thing, I was actually going to comment on that in my last ask, but I felt like I was being too rambly! While I like Robin, she definitely has her issues, too. For a couple who have been together for around 20ish years?? maybe longer?? you'd think they would know how the other is. Both of them also tend to kind of.. I don't know, talk bad about the others' jobs in some way. I don't think partners have to agree on everything or enjoy all the same things the other does, but it is kind of shitty to just see them talk about the others' craft the way they both do.

My personal headcanon, and it's very much something I have lived through, is that they DO know what the other wants/means when they say or do something, but much like my own parents (who have been together well over 30 years) I think they just argue as a hobby. Is it healthy? not really. but their dynamic really does just feel like two people who have been around each other waaay too much that now they just got to get under each other's skin a little bit to feel something.

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[atarashura]

okay but imagine if you will that Bruce makes it there before Jason fully passes away. Digging through the debris, finding him rasping, choking for breath, spitting up blood.

Bruce already knows, but he’s a mess, begging his son not to die, begging him to please stay with him, not now, not yet, it’s too soon-

Jason can’t talk anymore, he’s just spitting up blood, hacking, rasping, but worst yet, his eyes are scared, he’s just a boy, Bruce can read it in his eyes.

“Please dad, don’t let me die, please-“

His breath stops.

Bruce is just shaking, cradling his dead son, sobbing.

I feel that Bruce arriving too late doesn’t give us the full emotional gut punch Jason’s death really deserved!

I’m ill I needed to write this down I’m so sorry

[timmydraker]

Okay but Tim with aspd who doesn't really feel love the way his family or friends do, he does care for them - because they're *his* but he sees them as possessions.

I am by no means an expert but here’s my take on this:

I think the biggest part of this would be jealousy? Like, not just the whole dragon hoard mentality thing, but they’re his family and he doesn’t want that to change.

Like, he’s fine with them having friends and partners and all that, but after Damian comes in and eventually gains his ‘approval’, maybe Bruce starts to pick up that maybe he shouldn’t be having any more kids come into the fold so deeply.

It could be him meeting a recently orphaned kid at a charity and he sees Tim, not so much glaring and angry, but looking scared and heartbroken. He’d probably assume it’s because he recently lost his own parents, but then Tim hesitantly asks him if the kid is going to be moving in with them and while he and an excellent poker face, Bruce is Batman.

I think he’d want constant assurance that they love him and want to be around him, but all it takes is a few days or even hours apart and he starts to tell himself they were lying or changed their minds.

His response to this is that he has to ‘fix’ it, whether by talking to them or by moving things around so he can see them more, like time tables or family dinner.

But on the opposite end, I think he’d totally forget to offer the same love. Purely because I’m his kind they are his family, they’re his people, y’know? Why wouldn’t he care for them? He needs words of affirmation to know he’s actually wanted there and he is not intruding, yet just assumes that if he wants to not deal with them for weeks or months at a time, that’s completely normal.

He’s not selfish, he genuinely wouldn’t see why that is a problem because he’s made sure they want him there when he gets back and they’re his family so what’s wrong??

Naturally, Bruce and Alfred would pick up on it first and help him understand through logical reasoning and thinking without making him feel like he’s broken in some way.