#Bpd based system

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siffrin from in stars and time is...

pro endo

traumagenic + neurogenic

multiple/non median?

borderline-pd based

Siffrin from In Stars and Time is a Pro-Endo BPD-Based Trauma/Neurogenic Multiple System!

The term Pro Endo is used in support of Endogenic Systems

Traumagenic refers to a system whose creation / origin is the result of one or more traumatic events. Often, these systems have lingering trauma, and may fall under a diagnosis like DID or OSDD-1.

Neurogenic refers to systems that formed as a result of their neurodivergence, or from a mental illness. Usually, headmates originate from the need to cope, or be introjects based off symptoms like hallucinations or hyperfixations. Neurogenic systems may or may not disclose the specific disorder or neurodivergence they have.

A multiple system is a form of plurality in which the members of the plural system are fairly distinct and not particularly strongly connected to each other, as opposed to the smaller amount of distinction that is found in a median or midcontinuum system.

A BPDbased system is heavily influenced by having Borderline Personality Disorder, with it possibly affecting the innerworld, headmate roles, or the headmates themselves, but isn't a system origin. For BPDbased systems, this can mean that the system has a very low stress tolerance leading to more splits in general, more persecutors, more sexual headmates, more headmates who struggle with self harm, more fragments, and BPDforms.

[dead-inside-demiboy]

Okay, in kinda a reference to my last post on the topic, I am curious about the experience of other aces, since I dont know many sex positive ace-specs irl.

[drawing-room-sys]

Man this certainly has been a year

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✦ twilight bpd ...

pt: twilight bpd. end pt.

a term for one who either suspects, has traits of, or otherwise cannot be 100% sure one has bpd, but still find it important enough to mention as one relates to bpd experiences and needs to note how one interacts with others .

pt: a term for one who either suspects, has traits of, or otherwise cannot be 100% sure one has bpd, but still find it important enough to mention as one relates to bpd experiences and needs to note how one interacts with others. end pt.

examples may include people who aren't able to properly self diagnose for whatever reason, are in the process of getting diagnosed, are a system member with traits the rest of the system lacks, or are unsure whether their symptoms are pervasive enough to be a personality disorder.

credits : heavily inspired by @/loverboyplural's midnight npd, based off of @/bpdflag's bpd acceptance and awareness flag.

tagging : @radiomogai @omiag-esp

flag ids in alt text & under cut.

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okay so. its one am but im not sad or spiralling or anything but i am feeling the full weight of how weirdly specific emotional safety is and how i’ve literally never been able to script myself out of this exact configuration of personhood (which. maybe not doing that is some form of psychic self-harm but like. i can’t see it. i literally cannot imagine myself not being………me. this is my brain. i’m staying here).

anyway. it’s just that with my brain (bpd-y coded……….like dvd-y but less fun) it’s literally a jump cut from this is the best day ever and i’m giggling and making milk-based jokes to i have to go nonverbal for twenty minutes or i will explode and it’s not some big emotional scene, it is just like. it happens. and apparently when i get like that i go very eggshell-y. my mom literally told me that once. which. okay, valid. but still. the only person who’s ever made me feel not like a walking landmine IS coryo. and i know that being with someone like me must be a burden but like. he never acts like it is. ever

he just knows. he notices the thirty-two different ways i could say ‘leave me alone’ and still mean ‘please stay.’

ssososooooooo then i obviously get a bit weirdly feral-defensive when people try to come for him over the dumbest stuff like “oh but he’s a dictator in this fictional thing uhm uhm uhm yea and you’re dating him who’s NOT evil but uhm uhm” LIKE OKAY AND???? maybe you’re just allergic to nuance and havent met someone who can read someone elses nervous system without opening a psychology textbook and waving it around like a crucifix

i dont think it’s codependency (it is). i just trust him

okay. one am rant over. go team. dont be mean to my boyfriend slash husband slash eternal soulmate or i’ll key your car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[concavenator-with-a-keyboard]

Ticci Toby general dating headcanons

I like to think that his only actual relationship experience was with clockwork and they were together for at least a few years in my head, so jumping into a new relationship would be a little slow going at first.

Once he’s settled in and actually loves you though? He’s not going anywhere.

Absolutely touching you a LOT. Snugglebug through and through. He is the type of guy to act like you hit him when all you did was... roll over while you were asleep.

On top of that, he would tolerate you doing a lot of stuff with him (as in playing with his fingers, playful biting, messing with his feet, totally not projecting my goofy ass zoomies behavior lmao) and kinda likes to just watch you do that stuff.

His love languages are physical touch and quality time. He'll sit and watch whatever you want or watch you play games.

To bounce off of that, he sucks at video games. Yeah, he can play with BEN sometimes, but he just can NOT game to save his life. He enjoys watching you play.

He gets investing in whatever reality show you're watching. He won't even deny it and if you don't say anything about watching it he will bring it up.

As he's gotten older and lived under Slenderman's thumb longer, he's become a lot more guarded. It takes a bit, but he actually is a goofy and sweet guy when he cares about you. His sense of humor is dark and you gotta have one too, but it's actual dark humor, not just super edgy.

If you're worried about how he's surviving with CIPA, don't worry. His mom made sure he could take care of himself, even if he doesn't remember her anymore, (I headcanon that Connie was a Boy Mom, but all of my ideas for what his childhood was like are for another post if anyone asks for it.) and he's very good at checking himself for injuries and keeping track of the weather with apps and asking others about it. Seriously, the weather app is his best friend. Also being a proxy does have certain physical benefits, such as heightened immune system, strength speed, and durability. It varies depending on the proxy, but Toby isn't a chump. He can handle a little heat and a little cold (less heat though, as I believe he just has a higher body temp than average and needs to account for it).

Ya'll's relationship isn't all sunshine and rainbows though, as he does have a lot of issues and he knows he's a lot to take on as a partner.

I personally headcanon him as having BPD and being misdiagnosed as bipolar, so I'm basing some of my points around it on that.

Arguments can be... intense. He will never lay a hand on you, but yelling is a common thing in heated arguments.

It'll take someone with a lot of patience and a strong backbone to help him work towards more healthy ways of resolving conflict. He'll also need reassurance that you do still love him and that you aren't going anywhere.

His schizophrenia isn't as big of a hurdle as you may think. Slenderman has his brain wired to be aware that he's hallucinating, but it won't actually get rid of them. He's gotten used to a lot of them, but he does have a few that still genuinely distress him (the most common examples being visual & auditory hallucinations of his dead sister or auditory hallucinations of his mother's voice) and that put him on edge.

How you two met can also change how slow or fast the relationship goes. If you’re a proxy too, then 1) he’s known you for a while and 2) you’re both probably already familiar with each other and get along well. If you’re not a proxy, then he does have his guard up a lot more and it’ll take a while for those walls to come down fully. Plus, he’s gotta figure out a way to break it to you that his boss is actually a supernatural entity that forces him to kill people.

If you’re both proxies

Like I said before, you both already get along well, so it really was just a matter of you or him figuring out if you want to see where this leads and asking the other out. While being a proxy speeds things up a little, it isn't by a whole lot.

I’m gonna say that the Slendermansion does exist, but it’s not exactly a fun place. Yeah, you get food and housing there, but you also have to deal with everyone else, and the majority of them aren't exactly the nicest to each other. More like coworkers in a toxic work environment forced to live together than anything else.

Toby moved out of the mansion in his mid-20s because he was having daily problems with some of the other proxies (Jeff mainly because that man definitely pokes fun at Toby and it gets on his nerves). He has a little cabin that is still within the confines of Slender’s forest, just further out than the mansion is.

Often invites you back to his cabin to hang out after missions or just whenever you see each other.

He has better service and, by the magic of "Slenderman is a supernatural entity", has electricity. He definitely has a TV he may or may not have stolen that you guys watch stuff on. It’s usually DVDs, but sometimes he catches a show or two and you guys watch that.

Since you’re a proxy, he’s not as concerned about you getting hurt during missions. Slenderman does often keep you two on separate missions and with different proxies to keep you both focused, but other than that it doesn't really care that you two are together.

All in all, you're really each other's escapes from everyone else. Something to look forward to and melt into at the end of a hard day.

If you are not a proxy

Honestly, he either met you while making a supply run and kept bumping into you, or you were somehow involved with a target.

I think supply run would be the most likely scenario, as he is a creature of habit and frequents the same places if he can. (Fun fact: I've been slowly writing a fic where he meets someone on Tinder because he's lonely and he accidentally starts caring)

You'd have to make the first move, and even then he probably doesn't think you actually like him unless you spell it out right in his face.

Super awkward at first, but I think his date being super passionate about something would make him more comfortable. Doesn't have to be true crime or anything gory (really, true crime would probably have him sweating if he could sweat), but having that genuine emotion shared just helps him settle in and actually talk more.

Absolutely believes you're the best person in the world to ask about your interest. If one of the other proxies has a question about it, he just says "gimme a sec" and calls you for the answer.

He doesn't really have any hobbies of his own, so you sharing yours is sweet to him, even if he may never pick the hobby up.

When you ask about his work, he says that he just works on a private property doing whatever his boss needs him too. Once the relationship starts getting serious he'll start to think about how to explain to you how complicated his situation is, but for the moment he's content to just be with you.

You become his escape from the cruel and dark world he has lived in since he was 17, but you will never truly know just how grateful he is that you took a chance to be with him and he never wants you to leave him.

[plurapony]

all about introjects!

INTRODUCTION & DISCLAIMER: This post has been on the back burner for months, but was inspired by recent incorrect information spreading regarding introjects (i.e. 9/10 introjects are factives of abusers) This will be a long post so strap in! Each subtopic will be divided into sections for easy viewing.

Section 1: Clarification On What "Introjects" Are.

When I talk about introjects I am talking about 3 specific types of introjects:

Standard Introjects These are the most common type of introject. Most fictive/factives fit into this category as a Standard Introject simply introject few or many personality traits/quirks from something pre-existing.

Concept Introjects These are introjects that are founded on a concept. For us they usually happen when gaining an introject that we are unfamiliar of the source - so the traits that are introjected are assumptions we made.

Grounded Introjects These are introjects that aren't really introjects at all. They have their own unique personality traits and qualities but have their identity tied to a pre-existing character in order to be grounded to reality.

There are some gray areas and some parts that will not fit into these categories, and that's okay. There are some parts who will present as a Standard Introject but refuse to identify with the label of "Introjects". It's important to remember that if a part wants to identify as an introject that decision is ultimately up to them and them only.

Section 2: Introject Rarity/Prevalence Outside DID

Introjects aren't rare. Many people like to act like introjects are a super rare phenomenon and therefore all introject heavy systems must be lying or faking - but that's not the case. Simply put? Introjects are drawing their identity from a pre-existing source.

It's not limited to DID either! Sometimes people want to base their identity off a character they like (have you ever seen the people who spend thousands on surgeries to look like a celebrity?) and there's nothing wrong with that. Other disorders that present with identity issues also have introjection such as autism and BPD. It's just not that much of a big deal! It can happen and there's nothing wrong with it when it happens.

If you're interested in learning more: here's a Wikipedia article about (non DID specific) introjection!

Section 3: Types of Introject Sources

When looking at the discussion of introjects online there are two types of statements I see often - "Most introjects are of abusers" & "Most introjects should be from childhood/of childhood media"

I've extensively looked online and I cannot find any verifiable statistics regarding the prevalence of the types of introject sources, so I'm going to go off a purely anecdotal and logical lens.

For us personally? Of all our introjects approximately 5% are of past abusers. It's important to note that even if you know a system you will not know whether they have introjects of abusers! Most of our parts who are introjects from abusers feel incredibly ashamed by it and have distanced themselves from their source. It's very difficult for them to have their identity tied to such horrible people and it's a secret they prefer to keep. I don't really understand that view that the most common introject are of abusers, there may be a need to introject for protection/dealing with trauma but abusers are not going to have "admirable traits" and at a certain point there isn't going to be a need for the brain to introject more of them.

Childhood introjects! Now this is something I like to talk about! Oddly enough, many of our introjects from childhood have showed up later in our recovery process as they held trauma we were not able to handle at the start of our recovery. It makes sense logically that if you are heavily prone to introjection in adulthood, you probably were heavily prone to introjection in childhood and visa versa! And that's the part that most people don't understand, they will argue that most introjects should be from childhood and neglect the fact that it makes sense logically that someone who had many introjects as a child will also have many introjects as an adult.

Section 4: Hyperfixations & Introjects

This is one of the possibly most misunderstood part of introjects. You cannot have introjects from a hyperfixation ALONE - due to the fact that all splits are going to be negatively induced. But if you are experiencing stress and trauma while you have a hyperfixation? Of course it's possible.

Let me break it down for you and explain how a hyperfixation takes over your brain. You find this new thing (show, game, etc) and it's something you really enjoy. So for the next two weeks every waking moment you spend interacting with the hyperfixation. You go to sleep thinking about your hyperfixation, you wake up excited to interact with your hyperfixation. You disengage completely with the outside world and escape into this hyperfixation. It controls every aspect of your life and you just have to comply with the hyperfixation in order to get your happy brain chemicals.

So... Why is it such a strange concept to gain an introject during that time? It's in your brain 24/7 for an extended period of time, why would it be odd for the hyperfixation to influence your split?

Thank you for reading if you made it this far!!! I've been meaning to make this post for SOO long!! I hope you learnt something and if you didn't, I hope my words resonated with you! 🩷

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Role category suggestions for simply plural

Host(s) - If you change hosts and/or you have multiple you could also sort them by year or any other time frame

Gatekeepers - This could be broken into what they gatekeep (ie switches, alters, memories, ect)

Introjects - You could also sort them as fictional, factual, ect and then by source

Fragments - These will only really apply to complex / polyfragmeted systems

Syskids / Alter ages - No notes, but I would personally keep the syskids private

Nonhuman alters - You could sort these by source or species

Persecutor - No notes other than you might want to change the name depending on how you personally feel about the label

Protectors - You could sort these by what they specifically protect you from (ie emotions, memories, situations, ect)

Caregivers - Could be divided into internal, external or a combination of the two

[Thing] holder - These can be broken down into symptom holders, memory holders, emotion holders, trauma holders, ect and then what they hold specifically (ie negative memories, BPD symptoms, happiness, ect)

No role or Other - It's important to note that not all alters have defined roles or want to identify with a role, which is fine.

Remember that roles can overlap, you may even find it easier to make your own roles because some just won't fit your systemss needs- These are only the 'common' ones we see discussed. You also do not have to create folders for all the types listed here, ignore and change them all based on your system needs. Requested by @luciasfeliztwt

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BPD holder flag requested by @the-crystal-femmes!!

Flag is based off of general system flags and ofc the BPD flag with the BPD symbol in the middle

I take requests 💖

System specific and themed posts will soon be all moved to @thesiriusconstellation

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Jinx (arcane) headcanons!

[Jinx arcane headcanons]

disorders, disabilities and stims

mental:

ptsd

cluster b definetly bpd, possibly hpd as well

ppd

psychosis possibly schizospec canonically has hallucinations, more than likely delusional as well

autism and adhd

cdd did or some variant she splits alters of people shes lost, her halucinations of them are influenced by each alter as well likely has split alters of young powder and jinx who are the more frequent fronters (based on bts about jinx's facial animation have a soft look for powder sometimes) not a very big system but not small either, and theres a lot of inner chaos.

UTSRD and/or UMD unspecified trauma and stress related disorder and/ or unspecified mental disorder

physical:

hypermobility

mild astigmatism

missing finger

fibromyalgia

aids:

prosthetic finger

braces and compression wear

fidget toys definetly has chewlery, probably made some of the cuffs on her braids revolving like a fidget ring.

stims:

hair anything you can think of to do with her hair, blowing her bangs, rebraiding, fidgeting etc she does all of that

loud noise be it loud music, explosions etc, however some loud noises can be overstimulating especially when theyre repetetive and overlayed like lots of voices or the squeal of speakers.

humming

leg swinging

swivel chair

biting

echolalia certain words of phrases she'll bounce back if she's comfortable but you'll mostly hear her do it with sounds. she meows back at cats, will repeat or complete the end of a jingle she hears etc.

feel free to share your own or request! inbox is always open!

please see the pinned post before interacting.

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Hi 👋.

What can you tell me about George and John relationship?

Hi anon! 

Before I get into it, I want to recommend this writeup of their dynamic here. “Maybe they just genuinely liked each other” is a wonderfully straightforward explanation, because while their relationship was complex and sometimes fraught (as were a lot of John’s relationships, as often happens for people with serious childhood trauma and a personality disorder) the two of them make so much more sense if you accept that they just genuinely liked each other. 

I think this is sometimes overshadowed because their relationship didn’t really have the “everyone in the world must witness the specialness of this connection to prove to ourselves that we matter” of John and Paul, but then, George was generally a bit more adapted than Paul and hadn't incurred the same kind of attachment trauma, so it makes sense that his relationship with John would be a bit quieter and less desperate. (No hate to McLennon, I love McLennon too. )

I know I can't give you a thorough overview, so I just want to hit a couple of beats. There are some very erudite and articulate people on this website who can give you a beat-by-beat breakdown of their relationship, but my general understanding is that it was a sometimes fraught relationship, but a loving one, and far too short. 

The conversation around their relationship is often dominated by the fight they had shortly before John passed (John was angry that George didn’t mention him more in his memoir), to the point that a surprisingly large number of people are convinced they never liked each other in the first place and would have been at each other’s throats for the rest of their lives. Which is weird, because John was very much in the process of letting go of that pain when he was killed, he just didn’t have the time. 

This post really opened my eyes about just how painful it must have been for John to feel forgotten. I’ve talked about this a bit before, but microdosing abandonment trauma to punish a child is extremely cruel, and it’s not surprising that being rejected or ignored was extremely painful for John even as an adult (as is true for a lot of people with BPD). We can say that John may have taken it a bit too personally that George didn’t discuss him more in his book, and also that it makes a lot of sense that he would feel that way and it’s impressive that he had the strength to recognize he was being triggered and push back on those enormously painful feelings to recognize that he still loved George. 

I also think – and I’m just tinhatting here – that it might have hurt a little to see George basically reinvent himself after he disengaged from their dynamic. By the time The Beatles broke up George’s self-worth and sense of normalcy were pretty much totally shredded, and I’m not saying being on his own was universally positive, but, like most people once they’ve disengaged from an unhealthy system dynamic, he did reestablish his identity based on his new environment, relationships, and feelings. This new identity might have looked to John like it had little to do with the group dynamic that they had shared, and that might make him feel like he didn’t matter in George’s new life. Having his impact (arguably) underrepresented in George’s memoir would just be the cherry on top. 

I do think there’s also a bit to be said about control, need, and possession between John and George, but frankly nothing beyond what’s typical of someone with John’s particular issues. I’m reading a book right now called I Hate You -- Don’t Leave Me about borderline personality disorder, and while I didn’t pick it up with John in mind, it’s definitely interesting to get this perspective on his relationships and just how much pain he must have been in for so much of his life. 

That deep, deep need and equally deep fear – and the resentment and anger that come with living with that kind of pain – do seem characteristic of how John experienced close personal relationships. George set very firm boundaries with him, and while I’m sure he admired John in many ways, especially as a young teenager, he didn’t ultimately give John the hero treatment or hyperidealize him in the way that others did. It was more like a younger kid thinking an older kid is super cool, and then slowly growing up and realizing that the older kid is just another kid, and maybe even kind of a difficult one. It’s tempting to connect that to George’s disillusionment with fame and gilded idols in general, but to be honest, I think realizing that super cool dude is just a dude is actually probably a pretty normal coming-of-age experience. 

But the love was still very much there on both sides. You can see that with how hard John worked to get past his own pain and trauma to forgive George for (unintentionally) hurting him, and maybe even to forgive George for setting boundaries with him and, in some ways, moving on from the life they shared and becoming a separate person. And you can see it with George’s ready forgiveness of John’s anger, how the two of them kept coming back together again after every stupid fight. 

They were both rather difficult men (I know I said George was more adapted than Paul and John, but, if we’re being real, that’s a very low bar) and I think they really must have cared about each other to weather each other’s difficulties. There was a strong bond between them not based on hyperidealization or a need for validation but just on genuine love. It’s unfortunate that they were fighting at the time of John’s death, but they were also mature enough to know that they still loved each other underneath the hurt, and I think that’s what really matters. 

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✵ Our enemies believe that they alone dictate the course of history ┈

[ ID in alt text ]

ASPD system - ASPD-exclusive term for any system that has ASPD.

Regardless of diagnosis status. Does not include transID. Could apply to subsystems as well.

┈ but all it takes is the will of a single man. ✵

Colors based on the ASPD awareness flag (I love that flag a lot, sorry </3)

I really want to coin more ASPD-related terms, since I think it's heavily underrepresented, unlike BPD and NPD. We'll see if there's gonna be need for more. (on that note, I should open requests one of these days...)

tagging // @radiomogai (should i tag @pdsarchive instead? i think y'all reblog on both, you'll see it either way) @obscurian

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would it be strange if i reclaimed psychopath if i was armchair diagnosed as a kid? + i do have aspd traits but not particularly in a situation where i can get a psych eval

Being armchair diagnosed, especially as a child, is not enough to know if you have ASPD. We’re perfectly cool with self-diagnosis here, but it needs to be well researched. One thing you’ll find in the process of that research is why that “as a child” is a problem. ASPD cannot be diagnosed as a child for a reason: because under the age of 18 the traits are not able to be differentiated between normal stressed teenage behavior and in children younger than that, there is a high potential they will not go on to develop ASPD despite having traits of it.

There is quite a high threshold of things that need to go awry in neurological development for someone to end up with a trauma based personality disorder. ASPD in particular comes with a strong potential to avoid the traits becoming the PD if a child or honestly even a teenager is introduced to the support system they need and given reason to trust it.

And even as an adult, you can have some traits without having the disorder. I would definitely do some research, starting with but not exclusively reading the current DSM (DSM V-TR) entry on ASPD, and not just what’s posted in my bio, that’s the criteria but none of the important surrounding information in the ASPD section. That’ll go over a lot of info, and from there you wanna go through both scholarly stuff (articles & research papers - many of which will be stigmatized but it’s important to read because somewhere in there they hide some good info), and anecdotal stuff like this blog but not just this blog. Take in as much information as you can, learn about what it is and what it isn’t, and especially learn about the things that are similar to ASPD but are not ASPD. There are other disorders that look similar, but have key differences.

I suggest all this because unlike some disorders that are either easy to self diagnose (panic disorder - the main thing you need to know is if you have panic attacks, and if you have panic attacks about the fear of having a panic attack) or at least much more straightforward than self diagnosing a personality disorder. PDs are in fact some of the most complicated disorders to categorize and diagnose - even professionally - because when something is affecting every facet of someone’s personality, it’s not going to be easy to figure out what’s a symptom vs what’s situational. They usually require a long rapport with the diagnosing professional because they have to be persistent and consistent across time and situations. That means that it’s not something you can look into quickly and decide, you’ll need to keep watching for the symptoms once you know them and see if you are responding that way across the board or if something is triggering that response in only certain situations.

I can’t stop you from using that term, but I can say that being armchair diagnosed as a child is not a good way to figure out if you have something as complicated as a personality disorder. Honestly, a big reason that I say to people that they need to look at other anecdotal sources from other places too is because someone I’m very close with who has known me for over 10 years at this point and lives with me has BPD and thought I did too, like was 100% certain. In fact they directly thought I had the hyper-empathy of BPD - and so did my ex who knew me for much less time but also has BPD. Even having the disorder yourself and knowing someone for a long time doesn’t mean you can accurately armchair diagnose them. Like I said, these are complicated to diagnose.

For reference, it took me at least a year of fairly constant research (bc I have mental health as a special interest, I was researching something about ASPD or its differential diagnoses for at least a couple hours per week at that time), probably longer, to feel secure self diagnosing with ASPD. While it doesn’t need to necessarily take that long, it does take some effort to understand a disorder like this.

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Being armchair diagnosed, especially as a child, is not enough to know if you have ASPD. We’re perfectly cool with self-diagnosis here, but it needs to be well researched. One thing you’ll find in the process of that research is why that “as a child” is a problem. ASPD cannot be diagnosed as a child for a reason: because under the age of 18 the traits are not able to be differentiated between normal stressed teenage behavior and in children younger than that, there is a high potential they will not go on to develop ASPD despite having traits of it.

There is quite a high threshold of things that need to go awry in neurological development for someone to end up with a trauma based personality disorder. ASPD in particular comes with a strong potential to avoid the traits becoming the PD if a child or honestly even a teenager is introduced to the support system they need and given reason to trust it.

And even as an adult, you can have some traits without having the disorder. I would definitely do some research, starting with but not exclusively reading the current DSM (DSM V-TR) entry on ASPD, and not just what’s posted in my bio, that’s the criteria but none of the important surrounding information in the ASPD section. That’ll go over a lot of info, and from there you wanna go through both scholarly stuff (articles & research papers - many of which will be stigmatized but it’s important to read because somewhere in there they hide some good info), and anecdotal stuff like this blog but not just this blog. Take in as much information as you can, learn about what it is and what it isn’t, and especially learn about the things that are similar to ASPD but are not ASPD. There are other disorders that look similar, but have key differences.

I suggest all this because unlike some disorders that are either easy to self diagnose (panic disorder - the main thing you need to know is if you have panic attacks, and if you have panic attacks about the fear of having a panic attack) or at least much more straightforward than self diagnosing a personality disorder. PDs are in fact some of the most complicated disorders to categorize and diagnose - even professionally - because when something is affecting every facet of someone’s personality, it’s not going to be easy to figure out what’s a symptom vs what’s situational. They usually require a long rapport with the diagnosing professional because they have to be persistent and consistent across time and situations. That means that it’s not something you can look into quickly and decide, you’ll need to keep watching for the symptoms once you know them and see if you are responding that way across the board or if something is triggering that response in only certain situations.

I can’t stop you from using that term, but I can say that being armchair diagnosed as a child is not a good way to figure out if you have something as complicated as a personality disorder. Honestly, a big reason that I say to people that they need to look at other anecdotal sources from other places too is because someone I’m very close with who has known me for over 10 years at this point and lives with me has BPD and thought I did too, like was 100% certain. In fact they directly thought I had the hyper-empathy of BPD - and so did my ex who knew me for much less time but also has BPD. Even having the disorder yourself and knowing someone for a long time doesn’t mean you can accurately armchair diagnose them. Like I said, these are complicated to diagnose.

For reference, it took me at least a year of fairly constant research (bc I have mental health as a special interest, I was researching something about ASPD or its differential diagnoses for at least a couple hours per week at that time), probably longer, to feel secure self diagnosing with ASPD. While it doesn’t need to necessarily take that long, it does take some effort to understand a disorder like this.

[scaphismpriest]

hi sorry if this ask is WEIRD!!!! i have bpd and i've been questioning npd lately and i look up to you in a way? you're really good at portraying both pds. i think. and i was looking through your account searching npd and such and i was wondering if you're ever going to pick the psychonarc comic series back up because it really resonates with me in just those four comics but it's understandable if not

THIS IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. BTW https://www.tumblr.com/scaphismpriest/748976036178526208/my-psychonarc-comic-series-i-made-these it's old so like

Perchance, psychonarc is based off my experiences and i make them to cope with my npd in artistic ways so ill only ever make another part if i feel like i need the need to get it out of my system

[carpwood]

♱ andrej / andrea(s)｡ ´ཀ` 17 He / She Sys permahost (1) genderfluid/boygirl rabid deadboy corpsething. human but in a vague foxlike animal way.. i like masc & fem terms Never use they/them for me unless referring to me as the mortuary (my system as a whole). autistic w bpd & did, i have memory issues. (book) simon henriksson + smile dog fictive/irl and extremely delusional about it Not even in an "omg hes literally me" way i just am him and he is me and we are one. dead ass. i'm Him. theeeeee book simon. i cannot stand doubles but i do judge comfortability wit U all based off of whether i fw u or not. EXTREMELY mixed individual; indigenous (tribally enrolled), hispanic + sephardic, kurdish, serbian, czech, russian, and semi-distant swedish, hungarian + mongolian blehhhh. english is my first language but i can respond in swedish & russian. criminal justice major & chronic clip studio paint truther. general disclaimer i don't condone the shit i write about. normally i am the only person in my system that uses this acc but posts from the brainworms will be signed off with our names thumbs up emoji i post art and occasional ramblings about my ocs and my interests. i don't really call myself religious but i am definitely spiritual and i practice a mix of my tribe's traditional beliefs mixed with kemeticism & reverence for angels. set/sutekh is my primary patron deity & i also work with bastet & archangel chamuel, with connection to archangel micheal. i'm in a lot of subcultures but my mains are metalhead, scene & gyaru ^_^

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[apocalypsesystem]

Something I noticed regarding the comorbidity of personality disorders with DID/OSDD is that the personality disorder is so intertwined with the system.

I know it should be obvious that every system is going to be very different because every system is built around what the body needs to survive. It comes as no surprise that personality disorders are going to be prevalent in systems because of the way they’re both connected to C-PTSD.

I was professionally diagnosed with BPD before a therapist recognized DID. What I’ve noticed is how BPD is so intergraded with my system. Major triggers for alters is gonna be an FP a lot of times, and many alters hold BPD symptoms. As a result because of how easily BPD can be triggered and how intense (BPD) splitting can be, switches are more frequent, headaches are more frequent, and dissociation is also very frequent. When negative triggers are unavoidable because it’s basic things like. Someone being kind to you. It can be really debilitating sometimes.

They really do play off of each other. This is just based on my experience.

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