#cass and shiva??
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am i the only person in fandom with mommy issues 😭 why are there so many daddy issues fics give me mommy issues like the actual comics do
#nah but fr#comics are have so many women adopting children or kids with mommy issues why are we always focusing on batdad or irondad??#like no shade but also#where is my carol and anya fics??#my kamala and carol??#cass and shiva??#cass steph and barbara???#throw some dinahbabs in there too why not#where is my kate kane adopting one of the Nat kids#where is my harlivy adopting comic!cass#do i have to write all this myself😭#that’s so much
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girl who lives in a cave
#ok i started batgirl 2000... its peak#i mean caveat caveat caveat for all the sht that happens in 90s comics but cass rules so hard#“how are you going to fight someone you cant hit?” “you tell me” lived rent free in my brain for days afterwards... shes Her#batgirl#cassandra cain#cass cain#batgirl 2000#batgirl comics#dc#dc comics#barbara gordon#oracle dc#batman#im on like issue 23? where bruce and babs are talking about casss deal w shiva. i love how bruce sees a lot of himself in cass (accurate) s#he decides he should treat her like himself (bad!!). its very human#the thing i keep thinking is “they should give her white eyes to emote like batman” and thank goodness they did later#im reading batgirl 2024 too but obviously theres only 2 issues out so far#panel redraw#id in alt#2024
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tim drake is the type of guy to drop random lore then walk away.
tim: ugh i hate baseball, it’s like, when you have to play it in order to save a whole planet once, every game after seem boring
dick: that’s not…
tim: only downside to that was how we almost totaled barts brand new spaceship
dick: what spaceship??
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tim: oh, hi mom
shiva: hello timothy, how are you? still keeping up with your training i take it?
bruce: mother? she’s not your —
shiva: let’s spar then timothy, let’s leave it strictly non lasting injuries, i don’t rather feel like dying by your hand again today
tim: of course!! ^-^
bruce: again?
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tim: man i forgot to take my meds again
duke: your meds for what?
tim: i have no spleen, so i have to take probiotics, it really is manageable but i dont know where those pills went
duke: i’m almost scared to ask, tim, how did you lose your spleen?
tim: weird spider dude, it was a whole thing
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tim: you talk a lot of shit for someone who got replaced as heir to your immortal grandfathers empire by me
damian: you what!?
tim: i regularly beat his ass at online chess every week too, and i don’t think you’ve seen him since he stole your corpse
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tim: here
jason: what’s this?
tim: a box of all the photos i took when i obsessively stalked you for your entire tenure as robin
jason: thanks?
tim: you’re welcome, bye!
jason: … creepy ass kid…
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steph: so how did you to get together?
bernard: well —
tim: i saved him from a getting cut open by chaos monster cult members
bernard: yep, i was rescued from being a vessel for a greek god, and we just really clicked afterwards
steph: well, it’s better than the brick
#i’ve forgotten cass- but let’s be honest she already knows all of the tim lore#the whole lady shiva mom thing is just a silly little thing of my own creation#you can’t tell me tim didn’t see a woman who spends more time with him (even if it’s spent fighting) than his actual mother#and didn’t immediately imprint like a baby duckling#dc#robin#tim drake#red robin#nightwing#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batman#jason todd#red hood#damian wayne#duke thomas#the signal#signal#stephanie brown#spoiler#batgirl#bernard dowd#timbern
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Robin 94’
Such a fun series!!
#dc comics#dc fanart#dc#batman#batfamily#tim drake#dc robin#bruce#cass#steph#grayson#barbara#helena#shiva#ives#lonnie
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pack it up babes, this run is going to kill me
#gonna be emotionally compromised for the rest of the day actually#so excited about Cass's new Batgirl run I could scream#cassandra cain#lady shiva#sandra wu san#dc comics#dc spoilers#batgirl
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What is a mother?
Batgirl (2000) #25 // Batman (1940) #567 // Batgirl (2000) #54 // Batgirl (2000) #49 // DC First: Batgirl/Joker // Batgirl (2000) #52 + Batgirl (2024) #6
#cassandra cain#barbara gordon#batgirl#once again thinking about THEM#horrocks giving us some of the most gorgeous babs-cass panels and also the big babs-cass break#one day your issues will be collected!!! i swear!!#not saying that shiva isn't important to cass but babs was very much her first mother#when will she appear in batgirl 2024... pls brombal... pls dc (because it's probably THEIR FAULT)#anyway read dc first batgirl/joker pls and thank you
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Cass: Oh, Mother, I wanted to tell you—I’m pretty positive that I’m a lesbian. Just wanted to inform you of that.
Lady Shiva: What?
Cass: Yep. I’m sexually attracted to women, and there’s a specific woman I’m hoping to date in two years.
Lady Shiva (dropping her ninja star): You’re coming out to me?
Cass: Yeah, I know you’re a villain, but not the kind of evil that David is. I brought my aunt Batwoman; she wanted to be a shoulder to cry on if you disowned me, and the bat is there in case you reject me harshly.
Batwoman (holding a bat): And I’d have a private chat with you if you did.
Lady Shiva (stoic): I oddly respect that decision… Oh my word, a lesbian? I didn’t expect to hear you say that, and now that I have… what is this feeling?
Cass: I’m not sure; your body language suggests either anger or shock.
Lady Shiva nodded, gulping nervously, then stepped in and gave Cass a slightly awkward, but genuine, hug. She patted her daughter on the back. Batwoman sighed in relief as Shiva pulled away.
Cass: Hm, this is new.
Lady Shiva: You came out of the closet and told me! I feel this strange warmth in my chest. I’m so happy, especially since you won’t waste your life on… men!
Cass (surprised by the hug): I appreciate your acceptance.
Lady Shiva: Cassandra, I’m a villain, not a psycho. Some of my associates are lesbians, pansexual, and there’s one who has no sexual attraction at all. Quite fascinating. Now, who is this woman you see yourself being with in two years?
Cass: You know her well… Spoiler.
Lady Shiva (reluctant): Oh… She’ll grow on me. I can handle strange ones like her.
StephCass Masterlist
#lady shiva#cass cain#okay yes she's evil but she's not a monster#batfamily adventures#batfamily comedy#batfamily#batfamily headcanons#batfamily fanfiction#script fic#mini fics#batfamily funny#dc fanfiction#fan writing#ficlet#batfamily shenanigans#batfamily wholesome#batman#wayne family adventures#dc stands for disregard canon#no beta we die like jason todd#writer on ao3#cassandra wayne#kate kane#aunt kate kane will be there for her gay family members#mini fic series#just imagine they're on a rooftop in their suits and it gets sweeter and funnier#mini fic#batwoman#i ship these two so hard#they've grown on me as a ship
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Mother & Daughter
#dc comics#dc fanart#batfam#batfamily#batman#batgirl#cassandra cain#cass cain#lady shiva#sandra wu san
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sobbing at this actually. these three take self care sundays together........
#the best trio ever actually#duke thomas#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#lady shiva#bruce wayne#batman#cass cain#steph brown#batfam#ash's ramblings
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CASS! i haven’t shared here yet any of all the drawing i’ve done of her last months but you can check them out on my Instagram if you like ;) …. But in the other hand, here is the first time im sharing this, i madly love Cass <3
#cassandra cain#dc fanart#cass cain#david cain#sandra wu san#lady shiva#shiva#batfam wfa#batfamily#batfam#batman family#batman fanart#stephanie brown#barbara gordon#birds of prey#oracle#babs gordon#batgirl#batgirls#mia mizoguchi#big barda#gotham#gotham city#tim drake#jason todd#black bat#dc women#dc girls
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The Batfamily with their moms <3

Bruce and Martha Wayne, Batman: Dark Age #1


Damian Wayne and Talia al Ghul, DC's Twas the Mite Before Christmas

Duke and Elaine Thomas, Batman: Urban Legends #19


Tim and Janet Drake, Batman Chronicles #4

Cassandra Cain and Barbara Gordon, Batgirl (2000) #45
#dc comics#batfamily#batfam#bruce wayne#martha wayne#damian wayne#talia al ghul#duke thomas#elaine thomas#tim drake#janet drake#cassandra cain#barbara gordon#yes i know lady shiva is cass's mom but babs did it better#took me til 10pm to post this because there are so many dang bat orphans with super obscure/nonexistent maternal figures
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batgirl #1
#comics#dc comics#out of context#dc#comic panels#dc universe#comic books#dc characters#dcu#dcu comics#batgirl#dc batgirl#batgirl cassandra cain#cassandra cain#dc cassandra cain#batgirl comics#shiva#lady shiva#cass cain#comic page#comic posting
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Batgirl (2024) #1, written by Tate Brombal and illustrated by Takeshi Miyazawa, launches November 6th. Covers by David Talaski, Jeff Dekal, Stanley “Artgerm” Lau, and Skylar Patridge
When a deadly group of assassins shows up to kill Cassandra Cain, Lady Shiva must come to the rescue, and they’re forced to put their complicated past aside and work together as mother and daughter to ensure they make it out alive. Unfortunately, things are never as easy as they seem, and Batgirl must embark on a jaw-dropping, martial-arts filled adventure in her quest for truth and justice…and revenge?! This is a Batgirl unlike any other so don’t miss the opportunity to dive into the psyche of one of Gotham City’s deadliest fighters, while exploring her deep and complex relationship with her mother.
#dc comics#batgirl#cassandra cain#cassandra wayne#cass cain#lady shiva#sandra wu san#black bat#batman#variant cover
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Cassandra Cain has to deserve an award or something because having four parental figures and being let down by all of them at some point or another has to be some kind of record
#cassandra cain#dc comics#david cain#lady shiva#bruce wayne#batman#barbara gordon#to be honest Barbara did a much better job at being a parental figure but she DID fail Cass at one point#so she gets a 'not as bad a mom as the other three' mug from Cass#batgirl#batgirl 2000
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God this panel kinda drives me crazy. From Batman & the Outsiders #17, Shiva asks Duke about his suit, whether it was his choice. And how does Duke respond? He... doesn't. He parrots what is clearly something Bruce said to him, but never clarifies whether it was 'his choice' at all. Because both him and Shiva know it wasn't. And he acknowledges that his suit, with all the Batty-ness (ears, symbol), was specifically designed to make him like Batman.
Then Shiva suggests dark red, which is what Duke wore in We Are Robin and has connotations to Robin as a whole. Duke's reaction - can we let it go? - can be read in many ways, but to me it suggests Shiva's words hit home. He does miss the Robin colours. Becoming the Signal wasn't his choice, but becoming Robin was.
(And throughout this run, Shiva says both Cass and Duke are being held back by Bruce. With Cass this is a clear allusion to being Orphan over Batgirl, so it's not farfetched to read this conversation as being about how Duke was denied Robin to become Signal).
Duke-as-Signal is a symbol of 'people like Batman', but Duke-as-Robin was a symbol of youth, of community, of diversity and of choice. He was a Robin formed without Batman. I know there's no going back, but having Bruce choose the name, the suit, and the time of day that Duke goes out makes the Signal such a fraught identity. I love the yellow, the suit, and the daytime aspect, but I just wish they were Duke's choices, not Bruce's.
#duke thomas#lady shiva#batman#speaking of which lady shiva is always here to put bruce in his place i love it <3#in batman & the outsiders she gives choices to all the poc kids - duke cass and sofia#it's actually vitally important that freedom and choice for these characters of colour is represented by a woc and not bruce#this is not saying bruce is to blame for the signal. he just lacks the perspective to understand what duke needs#like no bruce it was not progressive of you to be like 'this one's different'#um anyway sorry this is my hundredth 'duke should be robin' post i just have feelings about it#meta
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A Mothers Lesson
Lady Shiva thought it was time she taught her daughter a lesson.
Her daughter had grown relaxed in her time with Batman, and the recent news was that she had fallen in love with a boy.
Now she stood atop the boys roof thinking of how finding the boys body was going to teach her daughter that love was weakness, that emotions and family was weakness and remind her to never be weak.
She snuck in through the window, fully intent on catching the boy asleep in bed. This was going to be such an easy lesson- A glowing green fist smashed her in to the wall
Her arm broke-shattered. she looked at a boy, the boy. "I was wondering how long you where going to stand on my roof like a stalker. Even Batman had better manners."
She spoke only to be interrupted; "I am- I know who you are lady Shiva. Cass told me. She still cries your name in her nightmares."
She smiled proudly, only to receive an inhuman kick that broke several ribs. "Are you proud of that you sadist? Pleased with the pain and trauma you've caused?"
She tried to speak but noticed the temperature drop and the shadows grow and animate.
"No more. No more pain. No more trauma. No more nightmares. No More Lessons. I love her. I love Cass and there will be No More.
The shadows grew. they wrapped around her- pulling her into the darkness. The only thing she saw where Lazarus green eyes.
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