Thing is no matter what the fandom is or something else, there are always going to be people who’s opinions you don’t agree with. Doesn’t mean you berate and bully them. If you accept that others have differing opinions it’s much easier. You have the self awareness to back away. But the other people in the world don’t see it that way and no matter how hard you try you’ll never explain that to them. If you try you’re just stopping to their level.
I haven’t been around from the beginning but I’ve already left twitter. Tbh it wasn’t the fighting, mind you I did see some of that. It was the OVER THE TOP, sucking up, complete and utter obsession and he can do no wrong attitude. I couldn’t stand it any longer. 😝😝 Plus the sexual, degrading way some women speak about him. I wouldn’t choose these people in my personal life, why subject myself to them online.
Here on Tumblr I’ve figured out who is worth following and who isn’T. The list is not big of normal decent blogs. Is it so hard to speak kindly to someone, even if they are acting ridiculous?
Thing is, you can always agree to disagree, but that shouldn't prevent people to have a decent and adult discussion. If that is the case, it prevents you from broadening your view on things and feed an open mind.
The OTT praising always makes me feel a little weak in the knees and sometimes nauseous (not in a good way). And the countless times I read that 'he's so cute' and 'so adorable' makes me shake my head and wonder if they're talking about a 3yo toddler or a 42yo actor. But it is exactly a number of these women that are the ones that defend and excuse him endlessly to any degree. A number, not all of them. But they're usually the loudest ones.
Not only to fans with other opinions or less obsessive views, or should I say more sane opinions or views on things, but even to his co-star CB they're rude and their common sense goes completely out of the window.
Just the other day, when news about CB as a guest on the Grilled live event was announced, I had a number of Anons asking why S was not invited. Just because one of the chefs was on MiK. They didn't ask me why Graham wasn't invited!!
And that's just perhaps an innocent example, I've seen much vile ones. And not only S fans, thinking he's snubbed or left out or disadvantaged for some unclear reason, I've seen it the other way around too. It's literally a bunch of school children fighting at the schoolyard sometimes. To the point that it gets embarrassing.
Again, I don't think that is the largest group, but the loudest for sure. And because of their loudness they imagine they're the largest group and the best fans ever. Truth is, I think the group that left quietly and turned their back on things has outgrown them meanwhile by far. I wonder if they realize that.
Hey! 👋 I don’t know if you have TikTok, but I do and whenever a HOTD vid comes on my FYP, I always see all these comments blaming Otto for the Dance. It is so annoying. I won’t deny that Otto played a big part in it, but it wasn’t his fault. People blame Otto, Rhaenyra, Alicent, and Aemond for the Dance, but I never see anyone blame the dude whose fault it actually was: ‼️VISERYS‼️The Dance is a direct consequence of his action, or rather his inaction.
1. Naming Rhaenyra heir. He apparently does this because Daemon was a bad heir and he felt guilty about killing Aemma. But in the books, when Aemma dies, he is 28 years old. Pretty young, even for medieval times. He knew he’d most likely have to remarry. He knew that the chance of having a son with his new wife was high. So why not just put up with Daemon’s bullshit for a couple years until he has a son? Aegon is born in 107 AC, literally two years after Aemma dies. If he hadn’t named her heir, the Dance wouldn’t have happened.
2. Not doing anything else. So he names Rhaenyra heir and does nothing else. He broke years of tradition and then just sat on his ass. He didn’t try to make a new law or anything. In my opinion, he should have codified the idea that the firstborn would inherit regardless of gender. I think it would have been much easier to make it a widespread thing instead of making Rhaenyra the exception. By the time he died, no one would have batted an eye at her ascending the throne and Viserys would actually be the ✨feminist king✨ Team Black thinks he is.
3. Remarrying. So, he’s a 28 year old widower when he names Rhaenyra heir. He knows people will probably be hounding him to remarry. He knows that if he remarries, he might have a son with his second wife. He knows that if he has a son with his second wife, people will think that this son is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. So just don’t remarry. Then Rhaenyra, as his only child, would be the only option to take the throne.
4. Not marrying them to each other. I hate to argue for incest, but they were Targs lol. After Alicent gave him 3 kids and he saw how shit was going down, he should have married Rhaenyra and Aegon. There is a 10 year age difference in the books, and it was said that they disliked each other, but that would still be preferable to a war that killed thousands.
The fact that he caused the Dance is just one of the many reasons I hate him. Anyways sorry for the rant 😌
Hi, Reina! I do have TikTok and I enjoy using it, but it's not a fandom account and I mainly use it like a normal person to collect recipes, hacks, short makeup reviews and funny animal content. I haven't been on in a couple of months though since I've been spending more time here. I am a bit wary that I'm going to get a lot of HOTD/ASOIAF clips with annoying takes.
I basically agree with all your points lol. :))
The fact that he remarried SO quickly and impregnated his new wife is so strange. That can't NOT be deliberate, I mean??? It's not like he had lost all hope of producing another son. It's so illogical. This kind of thing never would have happened IRL - Henry I only named Matilda his heir after her brother died and only until he managed to get himself a son, but that never happened and Matilda quite logically remained his only option. I think we're supposed to believe it's an emotional reaction in-universe, but, yes, it would have been much more measured to just give Alicent a chance to birth a son lol.
So, see, this is where I don't really know what he could have done to keep Rhaenyra as heir in the context of her having brothers, because this never would have been a conversation in 12th Century England. And I'm not a medievalist, so I have limited knowledge on how enforceable this supposed edict of Viserys' could have been. Medieval law adoption and enforcement is a mess and I'm not qualified to speak on it with any degree of authority, other than to point out that 'feudalism' (a term many historians take issue with anyway), in its very simplified form, implies a struggle for power between king and vassals. If this new law proved to be unpopular and the lords refused to carry it out, what would happen then? Is a law really a law if you cannot enforce it or is it just words written on a piece of paper? What exactly are the conditions via which some arbitrary rule stops being a theoretical concept and becomes an actual law? (I'm sure scholars of law and philosophy could have a field day debating these questions). All of this, should, of course be integrated in the kind of political system Westeros seems to be: the King only disposes of the Crownlands + Dragonstone* as his own personal fiefdom - militarily and resource-wise it doesn't seem to be much - and probably relies on levies collected and surrendered by vassals. The Lords Paramount are very powerful, dispose of military might and wealth, and can pose a lot of problems if they decide to rebel. As others have already pointed out, Westeros is not an absolute monarchy, however much people like to throw around that term. The Lords disagreeing with this huge change in the political and social landscape should be a very serious problem. As I keep pointing out, the historical inspiration King Henry I had his nobles swear oaths for Matilda twice, once in 1127 and once in 1131 (he died in 1135) and that still wasn't enough. I think that if the solution were as simple as "just pass a law lol", Henry would have implemented it. But it took until Queen Mary I for England to have a ruling female monarch - so nearly 400 years later.
I think the re-marrying can be explained away as Viserys needing a few extra heirs beside Rhaenyra, in case something happened to either him or his daughter. Which I can accept, but you can't eat your cake and have it, too, here. You gotta pick one: either stick with Rhaenyra and make her produce more heirs OR remarry and produce more heirs yourself. Not both.
So, yeah, people should blame Viserys for this mess, but they don't want to because Paddy gave a stellar performance that pulled at their heartstrings, so now he's father of the year and a peaceful king.
*How much wealth Dragonstone generates would actually be an interesting, if separate, discussion. Stannis doesn't seem to have a lot in the main series and feels very slighted because Robert chose to give Storm's End to Renly instead - the Stormlands appear to be the richer kingdom here. However, if I remember correctly, the worldbook states that the Targaryens became quite wealthy on Dragonstone when they moved there due to trade?
Dragonstone had been the westernmost outpost of Valyrian power for two centuries. Its location athwart the Gullet gave its lords a stranglehold on Blackwater Bay, and enabled both the Targaryens and their close allies, the Velaryons of Driftmark (a lesser house of Valyrian descent), to fill their coffers off the passing trade. Velaryon ships, along with those of another allied Valyrian house, the Celtigars of Claw Isle, dominated the middle reaches of the narrow sea, whilst the Targaryens ruled the skies with their dragons.
Of course the remaining population would retaliate, no fucking way Paradis was gonna live peacefully after this, it wouldn't have been realistic, the world always hated Paradis and their worst fears came true: They're demons who destroyed the world. And no, the Alliance didn't do shit, they didn't save anyone, Eren still eradicated 80% of the world's population, he still eradicated a vast majority of humanity during the Rumbling. It's logical that survivors want revenge.
Never said it wasn’t realistic/logical.