#binary mlm system

[chronicallyleggless]

Vinican userboxes! (Full pack!)

[chaosmushroomsushi]

this is not my normal content however this feels incredibly important to talk about because it is so important to me

I grew up in the mormon church

from a very young age i could tell i was queer but i knew it would not be acceptable so i actively tortured myself for doing any single thing that could possibly be gay at all

it's like those homophobic people you see who you just feel in your bones that they're queer and they're so deep in the closet theyve found Narnia and just cant see themself

as far as I can remember (which granted is not much due to trauma and being a system especially being what alter I am why I formed etc there's no need for me to have that information) I was never actively homophobic to anyone. I adjusted as I learned information

I once chastised myself for kissing my fingers and touched another girls forehead. which is obviously not gay but to my little like 6 year old brain it could have been perceived as such and thus must be bad because if I am not a perfect little mormon girl who marries a man and has a bunch of kids then obviously I am the worst human being on the planet

because I was already going through parentification, emotional abuse, the abuse from the church, neglect, medical abuse I couldnt handle being a queer person it tortured me

when I finally fully figured out that I was queer I thought I was going to be freaked out for weeks. I had a crush on a girl that I couldnt ignore that I had to acknowledge (at a church all girls camp no less) and it set me down a path of slowly figuring out my queer identity (which is extremely complicated given we are a polyfragmented system hahaha)

and it never got easier, i have faced discrimination time and time again. and I accept my queer identity for the most part I still struggle with feeling like I will never be accepted as a man because I still enjoy expressing femininity and don't plan on getting top surgery despite having a very large obvious chest

that and I am fat. and it's so hard to feel like I look masculine at all because my body shape is very renaissance painting era while being 5'3

I still struggle to feel like I'd ever be in a "true" mlm relationship and it took me forever to feel like I could call a relationship with a man a man loving a man because I struggled to feel like they would treat me the same (other than the one who I'm speaking to with most my posts the ones under "letters to my love I'll never send" he's always been so good and I could gush about it another time if people would like) so now the gay part of my identity is extremely important to me because I've finally reached the point that I can acknowledge myself as a man who loves men

(for anyone wondering I am a gaypan ambiamorous demi non binary roseboy [who is a sex/romance positive aroacespec with hyperromanticism and hypersexuality])

this is longer than I expected it to be but, what I mean to say is the closet absolutely harms a child

gay😔irl

[letscmsweb]

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[no-see-um-incorrect]

The Shaw Pack at pride 

(Keep in mind. These are my personal headcannons)

David: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. David is not just the alpha. He is the dad. He has water bottles, snacks, and a buddy system chart, he also runs the carpool. Nothing too flashy when it comes to his appearance. He’s got a little Bi pin on his hoodie and a trans flag bracelet that Angel made him (Angel was rocking a non-binary&MLM Flag makeup look)

Asher: Asher brought a pocket stereo and pride flags for everyone who wanted one. He would’ve gone in full drag, but David and Baaabe talked him down to a mini skirt, crop top, and heels (the reasoning being it was too hot for full drag) but he looked fine af and that’s all he cared about, he was wearing his Pan flag classic cape style, and his nails were painted classic rainbow, with his mate, right by his side, wearing some god-awful Target Pride merch because they thought it was funny 

Milo: Milo and his mate decided to go in formal wear. Nobody knows why Nobody knows how they are not dying in the heat. But they look great. Milo is debating with Sweetheart on whether it’s tacky to put a trans flag in their living room (it's not) And also complaining about how he can never find a T4T flag anywhere. They ended up purchasing way more things than they probably needed to but They had a very enjoyable time

Sam: this poor man is nervous as all hell. He won’t admit it. But he is. This is his first pride event and he doesn’t quite know how to handle himself, but he’s happy to be there with his Darlin, and the pack. Asher painted a little BI flag on his cheek and Darlin has DemiBoy flag painted nails. When it got later into the night and Sam got more comfortable. They found themselves enjoying the art and the beautiful creations that people brought. Having a mini slow dance when Take Me to church started playing And taking photos of the lights.

Overall, a great time at pride for the shaw pack

Happy pride everyone, I hope you had an amazing and safe month!

(forgive me if there’s any typos, my brain is running on empty)

[essenyare]

I'm from Taiwan, and I write my works in both Chinese and English. I’ve noticed that in some Chinese-speaking RE metaltango fan circles, having Krauser as a bottom is considered unpopular, not because it’s inherently degrading, but because it’s a way of preserving a particular aesthetic preference. (If you want to deep-dive into that, I could talk for three days straight, it’s tied up in gender politics, cultural difference, and so much more. Feel free to DM me.)

That said, in my high school AU, Leon is a transfer student with zero sexual experience, no topping, no bottoming, nothing. So when it comes to his first time with Krauser, he’s understandably nervous. And Krauser, being a genuinely considerate and good-hearted kid, raised as a cishet boy with limited understanding of queer sex, finds himself both concerned and reflective, aware of their body size difference, of Leon’s fear, and most of all, of how much he loves and respects him.

So Krauser would say, almost instinctively: “If you’re really scared... I can be the one to take it.”

Now, stepping outside the fic for a moment. For the people who doesn't know, in some strains of East Asian feminist discourse, writing BL/mlm fiction has been framed as a kind of "misguided male-love obsession”, “pro-male” that must be resisted. Personally I think that’s reductive and absurd. I’m a pansexual female and hell, I’ll write whatever the fuck I want. But I also get where the anxiety comes from: in places like China, Japan, Korea, and even Taiwan, it’s already difficult for cishet women to push back against social structures, let alone freely explore gender and desire in fiction.

East Asian societies (especially Chinese-speaking ones) aren’t exactly built on independent thinking. In contemporary China, the gender binary remains heavily policed, and LGBTQ+ identities are still systemically discriminated against. In my country Taiwan, while far more progressive (same-sex marriage is legal here), still carries deep-rooted Confucian misogyny that differs from the Christian-based misogyny you see in the West. So the rhythm, tone, and goals of feminist resistance here are shaped by different histories, and require different tools.

Back to the fic: What I personally believe is that penetration ≠ power, and the position someone takes in sex doesn’t automatically map onto emotional dynamics. Some people are just tops. Some people are just bottoms. And sex? It’s not limited to putting something into a hole. Not even close. Think clitoral orgasms. Think non-penetrative intimacy. There’s no right or wrong way to do it.

Given the AU’s setting: North America in the 1990s, and the fact that these are two teenage boys who’ve only just begun to figure themselves out, I imagined Krauser thinking something like:

“We’re both guys. That means we’re already outside the man-woman script. So maybe I don’t have to be the one doing the penetrating.”

Yes, that’s still coming from a traditionally heteronormative understanding of sex, and that’s intentional. He’s a teenager. He’s a product of his time. I’m writing him with that in mind, because writing characters with emotional complexity, psychological realism, and historical context, that’s part of the fun for me.

After all, canon Krauser isn’t just some rigid, emotionless military man. He’s someone who deeply mourned the loss of his team in Operation Javier. He’s someone who trained Leon, fought him to the death, and still died with words of recognition and love on his lips. He’s a man of principle, of feeling.

So in my high school AU, with a healthy family and a stable upbringing, there’s absolutely space for him to be a teenage boy full of care, desire, and deep respect for the person he’s falling in love with. He would understand Leon’s fear. He would see it, and instead of mocking it, he’d offer protection without humiliation.

And isn’t that what fanfiction is for? To give them the ending the canon never allowed.

[katetorias]

🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️happy pride!! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 every pride month I try to draw Miku in some kind of pride garb.. this year I made them into stickers!! they’re available on my printify :)

i am a trans autistic system and am only able to support myself using a part time job and commissions, which leaves little to put into savings after bills^^;; so if anyone is interested you’d be helping out a lot!!

i tried to focus on the most general flags I could for this first batch but I might make more! list of the current and possible flags below:

flags currently available:

- Progress

- Gay and Lesbian

- Trans and Non-binary

- Bisexual and Pansexual

- Asexual and Aromantic

- Genderfluid and Intersex

flags im considering making:

- xenogender

- mlm and wlw

[bell4lan]

Sick Days

Genre: Fluff

DNI: NON-MLM/NBLM, fujoshis, mlm/nblm fetishizers

Side info: Sex is not specified so cis and trans men can read it. There is only one gender specific word (he) so if you are non-binary and are comfortable with it you can read it also :)

Character(s)/Reader: Neuvillette x Male Reader, mentioned Lyney and Wriothesley

Your eyes blinked open as your alarm clock rang loudly at your bedside, arm reaching over to turn it off. As you sat up to get ready for your day, you noticed something off about yourself. Your limbs felt sore, your throat ached, and, weirdly, the temperature of the room was so cold it felt as though you were in Snezhnaya. You quickly laid down again and bundled yourself up in your blankets, but it wasn't enough. Your body still shivered from how cold you felt.

Great. Of course you got severely sick on the day of your interview with Lyney that you worked so hard to get. You had wanted to write an exclusive on his newest trick and maybe even get some personal information on the mysterious magician, but that definitely wasn't happening now. You whined as you felt the pain in your limbs worsen as you tried to get comfortable, but it looked like that also wasn't happening either. The bedroom door creaked open as your husband peeked into the room.

"(Name)? Are you alright? You're normally up by now." He asked gently as he walked over to the side of the bed. He noticed the look of pain on your face and kneeled beside you, placing the back of his hand on your forehead.

"It seems you have a fever." He said as he cupped your cheek, trying to comfort you as he saw the sad look in your eyes.

"Today was supposed to be my big day. I'm supposed to interview Lyney I can't be sick today." You whispered to him with a frown. His eyes softened at your desperate tone, and he grabbed your hand to kiss it.

"I'm sorry, my love. I know how long you've been looking forward to this." He spoke, thumb rubbing the spot he kissed soothingly. Getting sick wasn't something that was new for you since you've always had a weak immune system, but that didn't mean it was something you were used to. Feeling so horribly was something you could never get used to. Luckily since Neuvillette was a strong and mighty dragon that meant he had a strong and mighty immune system, meaning he could take care of you. Although you hated feeling like such a burden to him, you loved that he was willing to care for you.

"I'm assuming from how bad your state is that you have a sore throat. Would you like some tea to help soothe it?" You gave him a nod in return because of how much pain you were in from speaking earlier, and watched as he left the room to get the tea. Neuvillette was practically an expert at making tea due the many times you've been sick. The first time he made it it was, to put it nicely, not that good. He had no clue how to make it since he preferred to drink water, but with the help of Wriothesley he learned to make delicious tea just for you.

A little later, your husband came in holding a tray with a teapot, a teacup, and some small snacks for you to have in case you were hungry. Once you sat up, he carefully extended the legs on it and placed it so it was hovering over your lap. He then poured you a cup of tea and added some items that would help soothe your throat before handing it to you. You took a sip and smiled as the liquid hit your tastebuds. You could barely taste anything due to how stuffed up your nose was, but you could taste the love and care that went into it. Yes it was a cheesy thing to think, but when it came to your husband these thoughts came naturally.

"Is it helping at all?" He asked as he watched you drink. You nodded again and picked up one of the snacks he prepared. Hesitantly, you ate it and thankfully did not puke due to your nausea.

Once you were finished, Neuvilette cleaned everything up and came back with some extra blankets. As he tucked you in, you looked at the clock and realized that he hadn't left for work yet. He was definitely going to be late if he kept tending to you.

"Neuvillette, don't you have work to do? You're going to be late." You said softly, not wanting to use your voice more than you needed to.

"I've cleared my schedule and will be staying home to take care of you. You should know by now that I will never leave you home alone when ill." He said, lightly scolding you for trying to make him go to work when you're sick. You smiled at him as he finished making you comfortable, and watched as he got into clothing that was more casual.

"Is there anything else I can get you?" He asked after putting on a shirt. You shook your head and watched as he started to walk out of the room. You panicked and yelped a wait, a sharp pain in your throat making you wince. He stopped and looked back at you, waiting for your request.

"Can you cuddle with me until I fall asleep?" You asked shyly. He smiled and walked over to the bed, getting underneath all of the blankets so you could cuddle him properly. He felt your arms wrap around him and he did the same to you, holding you against him protectively. His hands ran through your hair as you rested against him, humming gently as you hugged him tighter.

Eventually you fell asleep cuddled up in his arms. Neuvillette watched as you slept peacefully against him, smiling to himself because of how adorable you looked.

He hated seeing you in pain from how sick you get, but part of him loved moments like these. Moments where he could provide for you. He loved cooking for you, making you tea, making you comfortable in bed. He loved doing things for you, and when you were sick you never rejected his acts of service. Neuvillette knew you thought of yourself as a burden whenever you got sick, but he was always overjoyed to be able to care for you.

Maybe one day you will let him service you when you're healthy, though he doubts that'll happen anytime soon. Looks like he'll just have to service you as much as he can while you're still sick.

'Perhaps I could get him some flowers?'

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Needed to make some Neuvillette fluff because he makes me swoon. He's so cute 😭

I hope you guys enjoy! Sorry if there are any errors, I only reread once because I am too lazy to reread it again

[evil-marco]

welcome to my blog. here i bitch about stupid people. come one, come all.

short overview: hey i'm marco. im a person with dissociative identity disorder. i use any pronouns, and i'm an adult. if you don't like me, block me! it's not my job to be internet friendly. it's your job to police your internet consumption. peace and love. (i know this sounds sarcastic but i'm being /srs. if you do not like the content tumblr is showing you, curate it. there's no use getting offended over it, or upset. either listen & learn or move on. i genuinely don't care which.)

as mentioned before, i'm marco (or, if you want, apple (not orange (which is a surprise considering the theme i chose))). i have DID. alters will reveal themselves if they want to. as an overview, i have 7-8. i dont believe in emoji signoffs—i have a name and i will use it.

always feel free to send asks about DID or system shit. i love correcting misinformation—if you need help finding good resources, i'm majoring in english and would love to help you find credible ones. i am also down to debate syscourse at any point. don't straight up call me a slur though you will just get clowned on.

i am like your friendly neighborhood spiderman except i'm not friendly or spiderman and instead just really don't like people faking dissociative disorders. that's about it.

no DNI because that's cringe & not how real life works, but if you believe in the following and feel strongly about it, you might want to block me. i also feel strongly about it and i guarantee you i'm more stubborn:

₊　endo systems. tulpa systems. any system that is not disordered. any of that "mixed origins" bullshit. i think you guys should get back into kinning.

₊　people who think you can be a completely binary man and a lesbian. [insert loud incorrect buzzer here]

₊　similarly, people who think you can be a completely binary woman and be mlm [insert equally loud incorrect buzzer here]

₊　those people who take shipping too seriously. do not tell me to kms because i don't ship your favs.

₊　systems who think systems should get special treatment for the sake of special treatment. you do not need pluralkit in every server ever. shut up

₊　people who refuse to debate your beliefs. you are stagnant. one day the world will move on without you and you will be the reason why.

₊　if you're being nsfw in my notifs i'll block you. idc about your blog (so feel free to interact/like/reblog with a sfw caption) but if i have to see it i will avoid it! much love to the nsfw bloggers but not my cup of tea

₊　generally just have common sense and we'll get along!

inbox / askbox are open ! i love education & debates, and will absolutely explain my perspective most things.

[ink-casket]

level 2 + hex code and kin types for a random headmate from a mlm book? if you don't mind. ty 💕

We've got a fantastic show lined up for you tonight!

Pack #012 Level 2 (+Hex and Kin types) random MLM novel character ! (I picked Kong Hongjun from Legends of exorcise)

// keep in mind headmates may not form exactly like the pack! //

🎙️. . NAME ! ;;; kong hongjun , Kong , Hongjun , Jun , Hong , 孔鸿俊 , Kǒng Hóngjùn , 孔绸星 , Kǒng Chóuxīng , Xing'er ,

🎙️. . PRONOUNS ! ;;; He/Him , Hx/Hxm , Hy/Hym , Hi/Hie , Hi/Him , He/Hem , Nix/Nix , Ny/nym , Nin/Nim , Thy/Thym , Tey/Tem , Thi/Thim , Hie/Hie , Hi/his , Hin/Hin , Hie/Hym , Hi/Hem , Hyt/yim

🎙️. . AGE ! ;;; (depending what you pick) 16-19

🎙️. . GENDER ! ;;; Male , Non-Binary , Agender , BLboy , Yaoiguy

🎙️. . ORIENTATION ! ;;; achillean , MLM , inderitian (he is married to Li Jinglong)

🎙️. . SPECIES ! ;;; Alive , Half Peacock Yao

🎙️. . APPEARANCE ! ;;; Kong Hongjun is described as being handsome and well formed. He has soft red lips, straight white teeth, fair white skin with a nose bridge high and straight along with dark arched brows. It's been remarked that inherited most of his father's looks.

His body is long and lithe with some indistinct outlines of chest and abdominal muscles he gained with his throwing knives and penta-color sacred light.

For clothes, he wore a short and sleeveless gown in dark red and a robe embroidered with green patterns was tied at his waist that resembles a piece of beautiful jade.

🎙️. . SOURCE ! ;;; Legend of exorcism

🎙️. . LIKES ! ;;; Food , Knives , Li Jinglong , Medicine , Humans, animals, and other demons , being able to aid others , sweets ,

🎙️. . DISLIKES ! ;;; Injustice , lies , his hight and his muscles

🎙️. . ROLES ! ;;; Internal self helper , care taker , Auxiliary , Medicine taker , encourager , SelfHarm Reducer , Internal Host

🎙️. . BEHAVIOR ! ;;; He's kind , Gentle , caring. Very hard working and isn't the type to give up easily. Helpful and always protects friends/loved ones.

🎙️. . PERSONALITY ! ;;; Kong Hongjun is a very kind and gentle person, however given his sheltered upbringing, this also leaves him a bit naïve to the world around him. However when his friends are in trouble he doesn't hesitate to help them. (From wiki)

Kong Hongjun is most commonly typed as 2w3 (The Helper, or The Giver) in the Enneagram system. This suggests Kong Hongjun is empathetic, sincere, warm-hearted, and generous, and is caring and self-sacrificing, often putting others' needs before their own. These traits shape Kong Hongjun's worldview and behavioral patterns, influencing how they navigate challenges, connect with others, and pursue their goals. Understanding these traits provides insight into Kong Hongjun's motivations, strengths, and potential growth areas.

The Basic Fear of Kong Hongjun is being unwanted or unloved, which drives them to avoid certain situations or behaviors that trigger this fear. Conversely, their Core Desire is to feel loved and appreciated, guiding their aspirations and actions in pursuit of fulfillment. This dynamic between fear and desire often shapes Kong Hongjun's life choices and personal development journey. (From PDB)

🎙️. . TITLES ! ;;; Prince of Yaojin Palace , The Exorcist , Kong Hongjun the Exorcist , [Prn] who is an Exorcist , Exorcist Prince , [Prn] Of Yaojin

🎙️. . MOOD BOARD ! ;;;

🎙️. . HEX CODE ! ;;; #64743F or #4B3627

🎙️. . KIN TYPES ! ;;; Fiction Kin , Elemental Kin , MythKin , FoxKin

🎙️. . FACE CLAIMS ! ;;;

[ 1 . 2 . 3 ]

Tags : @cherishedverses , @thebaharchivist (if you want to be added or removed dm us !)

Hey there :D ! I will give a MASSIVE heads up I am a wiki user ! It's legit the wiki on the charater so if I get hate I will be very confused, it's not ai, it's the wiki :,3. (I used the wiki for basic stuff and appearance, and personality) ! Everything else I did ! (It's also 5am for us when we published this I need sleep 💔)

[pride-flag-planets]

Masterpost pt 2

Multiple flags

Key:

🪐 #pride flag planets 🐠 #queer koi 🫙 #pride potions 🌳 trees ☁️ clouds/fog 👾 #arcade rug 🌼 #mandala ❓IDK how to categorize these

note: planetary systems are named by their planet, and moons are in parentheses

🐠Aroace (Aromantic and Asexual fish with Aroace moon reflection)

🪐Transfemmasc (+Nonbinary, Trans, Genderfluid, Genderqueer)

🐠Lesbian + Asexual

🐠Bisexual + Asexual

🐠Aroace + Demigirl

🐠Bisexual + Non-binary

🐠Lesbian + Non-binary

🪐Bisexual (+Demisexual, Demiromantic)

🐠Bigender + Genderfluid

🐠Lesbian + Oriented Aroace

🐠Pansexual + Oriented Aroace

🐠Bisexual, Demigirl, Greyace

🪐Lesbian (+Asexual, Oriented Aroace, Aromantic, Nonbinary)

🐠Aroaceflux (aroaceflux, aroflux, and aceflux fish)

🐠Aroace (Aromantic and Asexual fish redraw)

🌳Aroace (Aromantic and Asexual split trees, some with Aroace background)

🐠Greyromantic + Asexual

🐠Aroace + Nonbinary

🪐Aroallo (+bisexual and quoigender moons)

🪐Transgender, Asexual, Aromantic

🐠AAA (aromantic, asexual, agender)

🪐Aroace (+demigirl rings)

🐠Transfem + Greyrose

🐠Transgender + lesbian

🪐Aroace Genderqueer (+genderqueer rings)

🐠Aromantic, Asexual, Genderqueer

🐠Pansexual + Agender

🪐Lesbian (+greyasexual rings)

🪐Transgender (+lesbian rings, asexual moon)

🐠Panromantic, Asexual

🐠 Aroace, Transgender

🐠Pan ace

🐠Bisexual, lesbian

🐠Lesbian, Agender

🐠Sapphic, Transmasc, Intersex

🪐lesbian, nonbinary, ace

🐠Greysexual, bisexual, genderqueer

🪐Aroace (+trans, lesbian, mlm)

Fandom

(Probably won’t make a lot of these)

Generation Loss: Showfall Media supports all of our viewers

[rae-raez]

About me!!

My birthday is April 20th, I am a proshipper/darkshipper and I use it to cope with my trauma and my desire for a taboo relationship (which has helped me a lot to stray away from those thoughts!) I have a few paraphilas but they’re minor. (I’m anti-contact.)

I am an artist and I love writing fanfics, I don’t know if I’ll post any here but if I do don’t be surprised lol.

I have disorders such as autism, AD(h)D, anxiety, PTSD, hypersexuality. I am also a questioning system/plurality.

I am non-binary/trans/transmasc and I am Abrosexual (though I use the nwlnw/mlm term more.)

I want to be a character designer for either games or shows/movies and or a voice actor.

My fandoms I’m apart of are:

Hazbin hotel/helluva boss

Murder drones

The amazing digital circus

The owl house

South Park

Gravity falls

Adventure time

Don’t hug me I’m scared

And many MANY more!

(I may edit this quite a lot.)

My F/O list

[pun-pu-pun]

Intro post or whatever

Hi, my name is Abrian but you can call me Abri or Abe for short.

About me:

AuDHD

Dyspraxic

pwBPD

Genderfaun

Transmasc and transneutral

Aroaceflux

Bi-gay / bi with heavy masc and men leaning

White

Mid-sized

Femboy

Interests:

Anime

Video games

Animals

Art

Japanese language and culture

Vocaloids

Japanese street fashion

Sanrio

Gloomy Bear

Menherachan

Horror

Learning about politics

Yes!!!:

Masc and neutral terms

"Contradicting" queer identities

Kink at pride

Endo systems

No!!!:

Fem terms

Denying transandrophobia

Pro/anti ship discourse

Radfem/TERF/TIRF/Baeddelism

LGBT exclusion (ace, trans, nby, queer, "LGB drop the TQ", transmeds/truscums)

Demonizing pwPDs (thinking narc/bpd abuse is real) and paraphilias

tme/tma, non-man/man or any similar terminology that is binary and excludes intersex people

Equating trans men and mascs experiences to those of cis men

Hating men/KAM mindset

Calling gay/mlm trans men and mascs fujoshis

Queer gatekeeping (who can use what slurs, use what labels, what flags are ok to use, what pronouns are valid)

Fakeclaiming

[just-antithings]

Hello. I'm a gay trans man, and I wanted to provide a few of my thoughts on the disc horse surrounding MLM fetishization in fandoms. Of course, my fandom experience is very limited, so if anyone else disagrees with me or has had different experiences, that is okay and I respect that. Now, with that out of the way, let me get to my main point:

The discourse surrounding MLM fetishization makes me, a literal gay man, feel unsafe and unwelcome. This is because as a trans man I exist in a world that believes I am predatory for existing, and as a gay man I too exist in a world that believes I am predatory for existing. These two parts of my identity that I'm regularly ostracized for intersect in this disc horse, where people claim that they are protecting trans people AND protecting gay men, but by doing so they are punching down on gay trans men and throwing us under the bus.

Let me elaborate. Before I even knew I was trans, I regularly read MLM fanfic and consumed media that featured those types of relationships. Obviously now, I was drawn to that media because I'm trans. Before I realized I was trans, was I fetishizing gay men?

Of course not, because even if I didn't know it at the time, I was one.

Now, let's consider this scenario. Let's say, hypothetically, that I knew I was trans, but for whatever reason I did not want to come out online. So would I, a closeted trans man going by she/her, be fetishizing gay men?

Of course not, because I am one.

Here's the even bigger issue. The majority of non-transmascs online have biases that lead them to view transmascs as both men and women, applying the worst stereotypes of both binary genders to us whenever convenient. People in very progressive spaces that talk about fetishization and things like that are unfortunately no different. They've internalized TEHM rhetoric. This means that they'll view transmascs enjoying fanfic about gay men as the same as women enjoying fanfic about gay men, and I've literally been told to my face by progressives that that's how they see me.

However, it's even worse than that. Since cis women don't experience transphobia on a systemic level like trans people do, trans men are treated worse than cis women in this fetishization disc horse because we have both misogyny and transphobia used against us to shut us up and gatekeep us out of existence. The people acting like women invading gay men's spaces are a serious issue and fearmongering about them are using a dogwhistle against trans men. Just because you say that you include gay trans men in your definition of gay men doesn't mean you've taken the time to unlearn your transphobia or learn about how you can avoid spreading dogwhistles.

And when I call out any of these issues in fandom disc horse about MLM fetishization? Either people pretend they do not see me talk about it, or they respond by acting like I'm downplaying their trauma from "horrible women invading the poor men's spaces :("

Like, I'm literally gay. I've experienced my fair share of homophobia from straight women and I speak out about it often. There are ways to critique women for the ways in which they benefit from homophobia, but trying to gatekeep them from enjoying a certain genre of fanfic Ain't It. None of these people I've seen who hate trans men and AFAB nonbinary people have actually called out a straight woman for doing something genuinely homophobic. The cis people doing this are using the fetishization disc horse as a cover for their transphobia, and if it's a woman who is allied with these TEHM-lites, they're usually doing this to pretend to themselves and others that they care about gay men while not giving a shit about us.

I've had to argue about this with cis women. It's really telling that some cis women won't listen to a trans gay man talk about his own experiences and thoughts on homophobia. It's almost like they don't see us as real gay men and feel justified in speaking over us.

And there are definitely trans men that fearmonger about fetishization, but as far as I've seen, they generally seem to be under 18 and usually change their views quickly. The ones that don't change their views upon me talking to them usually hold truscum beliefs. One that I've spoken to thinks that anyone who's a real gay trans man was against "fujoshits" from before he came out and no real gay trans man would ever touch MLM content. Great job pretending like there's one behavior or trait that marks transness! That's literally truscum koolaid.

I know that there are other reasons that the fetishization disc horse is bad, especially anti-Asian racism, and the blatant misogyny, but I think I've said enough.

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[starmoon-constellation]

so many words we wanna use, but so many feel wrong to use, DESPITE US LITERALLY BEING THOSE THINGS.

"crippled". yeah, we use a cane to walk and can barely fucking see most of the time. We see blurs/blobs, not much else, despite wearing $2k fucking glasses.

"faggot". yeah, mlm here, despite being the weird amalgamation of non-binary, masculine and feminine that we are lmaoooo. (Idk man, being a system fucks with your relationship of gender, romance, and sexuality LMAOOOO)

"psychotic". yep, totally experience psychosis, even if we know it's fake and the phantoms won't hurt us, they still feel/look/sound real. The fear/terror of them is still real.

I+ just want to feel comfortable using words that have meaning to us, but without the guilt that accompanies using those words.

(Rae, Daphnis)

[crowsblogs]

I feel like my story with accepting I'm a lesbian is a tricky one, and it only took until mid/late last year to truely accept. I came out at the age of 10 or 11, telling my mom I liked both girls and boys, but she told me I was too young to *choose* that. I came out about two more times over the next year or so, and when I was 12 or 13 I came out to her as transgender (male), and she automatically didn't fully accept it. She told me I was too young and I didn't really KNOW. Well, I wrote her a letter about it and she talked to my uncle's (married, who are gay) for advice, but they really couldn't give any. She accepted it, but it was hard for her. She didn't really use he/him pronouns and also didn't really try using my preferred name, but did make attempts.

When I was 15 I told my therapist that I was being abused by my father, and my mom had been told as it had to be reported. She then thought the only reason I wanted to be a boy was because of the abuse, but it took another year and seeing a doctor to get onto testosterone to tell her otherwise. Around that time I had been friends with/dating a guy that we were not compatible at all with, we were horrible for each other and nothing would've worked out, so my mental health was at a bad low. I identified as gay to bisexual, I think I was too scared of coming to say I only liked girls because that person had also been transmale, and I didn't want him to assume I saw him as female, which I never did. A part of me was also too scared to admit it because, my mom didnt really see me as male, and I didn't want to let her further down by saying I only liked girls. It was hard, I felt as if, even if I didn't identify as male, I still had to like guys.

At 16 I started testosterone hrt. At 18, my mom died. A lot of shit happened and I couldn't handle life basically. I continued to say I was bisexual to gay and then identify then as transmasculine non-binary around 18 as well. Again, I was too ashamed to admit I like only females, also because I absolutely loved male fictional characters (so that had to make me gay mlm, right?)

Then in 2022 I realized I'm not transmale, and that's okay, it's how I thought I identified and that's valid, but I did identify as masc nonbinary. Then I tried to accept that I loved only girls, but I was ashamed because I didn't want to let anyone down by liking them, so I went and said I was bisexual so it'd seem "better." (I also do not care what's in their pants, as long as they identify as female. So yes ily nb and transfems <3 I prefer personality and actions more than anything.)

Something happened late 2023, I'm not sure what, but I set in the fact I'm a lesbian (and also genderfluid). I felt shame, but I have amazing friends who keep me solid, and also joked about being a lesbian. I never had such a strong friend support system before, and they all mean the world to me. I still feel like I'm letting people down by not liking men, but I'm happy now. My little genderfluid and lesbian self can't be happier.

It took a LONG time, but I'm glad.

Thank you for coming to my book reading lol.

[bruderlieben]

You have both "women dni" and "non-men dni" in different areas of your blog, where do non-binary folk stand in regards to your blog? (Love your blog, but don't want to make you uncomfortable)

It's a slippery slope. Someone started a whole discussion on our old blog about "why do you not want people to interact with you just because they like a certain pronoun?"

I really don't want to return to that discussion, I'll be honest.

The reason we never give a clear answer is because it changes according to each alter.

We are queer in many different fashions. Most of us are aromantic, some of us fluctuate between hypersexuality and asexuality, some have a slight interest in women while most of us are gay men. The body is AFAB and we are currently transitioning (we started T before we knew we were a system), and 9/10 of our alters are queer men.

One of us might say "I'm fine with trans people of all genders interacting, even trans women, I don't mind sharing kink with trans people of all identities",

while another might say "ONLY TRANS MEN. NO CIS MEN, ONLY TRANS.",

while yet another might say "as long as they don't present femininely, even butch/masc lesbians would be fine".

What I'm trying to say is: the answer depends on who's fronting. We have a hard time agreeing on this ourselves. As a compromise, we just figured "non-men DNI", because we are mostly attracted to men. Masculinity.

We are in no position to judge how another person identifies. It's none of our business.

However, I (Ajax 🤍) am uncomfortable with the thought of women or fem-presenting people interacting with our very MLM homoerotic posts. I am not comfortable with being fetishized. I am not comfortable with women intruding in our sexual space. This content is not made for them, it's made for mascs and men. Women are allowed to say "men dni". We are, too.

This is not about misogyny; it's not about hating women or thinking lesser of them. This is about sexual and romantic preference. I don't want to see she/her users interacting with our sexual MLM content.

A quick guide by Ajax:

He/him: Fuck yeah, come in!

He/they: Yes! Go ahead!

They/them: Generally alright.

Neo pronouns: Generally alright.

She/him/they: Thin ice, might get blocked if we don't vibe with your blog.

She/they: No.

She/her: Absolutely not.