#waynes mention again

[crow-in-gotham]

BLOG POST NO. 16 - ADOPTION? MORE SOUGHT OUT THAN YOU THINK

I know that there are some teens and kids that joke about plotting to get adopted by Bruce Wayne since the dude apparently has a hoarding problem when it comes to adoption papers and kids (and also he’s rich af). But I’m too old for that, so obviously the best option is for me to marry into the family.

Then reality hits me and I slap myself in the face because wtf intrusive thoughts, stop making me want to marry into money, I’m strong and independent. And also, it’s a weird thought to have considering the fact that I’m pretty sure the only Wayne who isn’t under any dating rumors or outright publicly dating anyone is Duke, and that’s weird because he’s my friend and I don’t wanna seem like I’m just using him because of his status or some bullshit like that.

Plus, Jason Todd-Wayne is more of my type but we’ve been over this so I digress.

It is honestly concerning when you think about the amount of kids or teens that would readily throw themselves at the feet of the city’s billionaire and beg to be adopted just because said billionaire is known for having adopted a lot of kids. What makes it sadder is the fact that I know that some of these people are only genuinely considering it because they wanna have a better life, one way or another. And also because the Wayne family is considerably nicer compared to other rich families in Gotham.

I guess it’s one of the more depressing things about Gotham? Just hearing a lot of young kids talk about how they’d like to be adopted by someone rich because their life is pretty shitty.

Then there’s the other side of the coin, which is parents from lower class families who also think of ways to get their child adopted by rich people because they want a better life for their child.

It’s a bleak thought but I’ve lived here long enough to know that it’s the reality for some people.

In a lot of ways, the upper class is just under way better living conditions compared to ordinary folk who have no choice but to fight for their lives on the streets.

Thinking about this kinda stuff makes you glad about all the charities and funding that Bruce Wayne does for the community. He may not be able to adopt every single child in Gotham, or help every single person in need directly, but he’s at least doing his best to help those that he can. Which, to be fair, is still a fuck ton of people. Like me.

[oifaaa]

It's funny how opinions can change over time for instance I used to want Bruce to be a good parent but then I realised how fucking boring that is to read at the end of the day comics are soap operas and I'm here for the drama

[freefallintothevoid]

Nightwing is not a retired crashout. He's just a crashout on hold.

He, like any good eldest sibling with Eldest Daughter Syndrome, is letting all his younger siblings have a turn at crashing out. Anyone with Batman as their parent/parental figure deserves to. It's practically tradition at this point.

Sure, he didn't expect Bruce to keep adopting more and more, but okay fine. He likes having lots of brothers and sisters. He likes being a big brother. Once the flow of new siblings stops and they've all gotten it out of their systems, first chance he gets Nightwing is going to finally allow himself his second run of things. He's just waiting.

Bruce keeps adopting, partially because he can't help it, and partially because he'd rather deal with a dozen regular Bat Children going through the typical teenage rebellion phase than Dick Grayson experiencing a crashout literally years in the making. If he stops adopting he knows what will happen. At this point he's spent too long holding it off to hope the inevitable fallout can be contained.

Teenage Dick Grayson crashing out was bad enough. Adult Dick Grayson has been gearing up more or less for over a decade.

No one will be prepared, except maybe Jason, who has been gleefully waiting for the older brother he remembers to make a comeback since he first showed up as Red Hood, Tim, who is ankle deep into the beginnings of a villain arc at any given moment and spent most of his pre-robin years photographing everything that happened the first time, and Harley Quinn, a licensed psychologist specializing in crazy who has been watching the warning signs build up like an unstable jenga tower for years.

[lena-thinks-too-much]

It is so, so important to me that people understand that Tim didn't figure out the bats because Dick was a "Show off". Like yes, Dick Grayson is the most flamboyant, dramatic ass man you will ever meet.

But the quadruple somersault? There's no way that was because dick was just showing off. Because you're telling me Bruce Wayne, who's so committed to hiding his identity that he literally acts like a completely different person out of the mask in public just to ward suspicion, would miss the fact that Robin regularly uses the flying Grayson's trademark move? There's literally no way.

In the comics we see Tim explain his deductive process to Dick and Alfred and they're both surprised impressed whatever. We don't see him explain it to Bruce. I think Bruce would be surprised and shocked that a 9 year old was able to put the pieces together but I don't think he'd be surprised that the quadruple somersault gave it away.

So if Bruce was possibly aware of such an obvious give away, why let it continue?

I'll tell you why.

It really comes down to the physics

So Dick was 9 when he started out right? That means the most he'd have likely weighed was 43kgs or roughly 95lbs in freedom units.

But Dick and both of his parents are gymnasts who tend to be smaller. So he was likely less than that.

In physics, rotating objects build up angular momentum (this is how bikes stay up right for example). The more rotation, the more momentum. And objects with less mass build up that momentum much faster than those that are heavier.

Robin constantly has to fight people who are nearly 3 times his size. I teach 8 year olds, they're tiny. A quadruple somersault for a small boy that weighs less than a hundred pounds is a brutal weapon. Especially if you add in the acceleration from gravity as he drops in from above.

And I can guarantee you this logic tracks because Dick literally utilizes this idea, without the somersault, in the 2009 teen titans cartoon.

Yeah, that's right. We're talking about the infamous knee drop.

Like it is borderline savage. Add in a quadruple somersault and the resulting force is nearly fatal. It's likely the main reason Batman would ever allow him to do it with the cape on.

Also, Dick landing feet first on the penguin in the first image probably gave the guy severe back issues

[farshootergotme]

I like imagining a scenario in which Jason, Tim and Damian are arguing about Dick and just keep trying to one-up one another:

Damian: I was his Robin and he clearly likes me best.

Tim: I mean, technically I was his Robin first. And that last statement is debatable (and wrong).

Damian: Tt. You were father's Robin, I was Grayson's only before the original Batman returned.

Jason: Oh, for fucks sake, why does that even matter? He accepted me as Robin first and gave me his old costume, try topping that.

Tim: Been there, done that.

Jason: Not first you haven't.

Tim: Irrelevant. I think being accepted as Robin and being his Robin first puts me above you both.

Damian: Richard made me Robin on his own accord, father's intervention was unrequired.

Tim: Do you think that maybe that was because, I don't know, Bruce was 'dead' at the time?

Damian: I don't see how that refutes my argument, Drake.

Tim: He didn't even want you as Robin, he did it so you didn't go running off to the league.

Jason: Face it, brat, Dick didn't have much of a choice on the matter. With me, on the other hand-

Tim: I can give you a list of reasons why what you're about to say is wrong.

Jason: Stop trying to be a smartass, you-

Damian: This discussion is getting sidetracked. I can win this argument with the simple fact that Richard planned to adopt me.

Jason: Get in line kid, he tried with me first.

Tim: Wait- what? Damian makes sense because Bruce... but you? Full offense, by the way.

Jason: I was a redhead and a circus kid, he had all the reasons to adopt me.

Damian: Todd, you're a brunette, you're spitting nonsense.

Tim: And you most definitely did not grow up in a circus. I've heard your backstory from Dick himself.

Jason: You had to be there.

[wellijustfinnihedoneofthebooks]

Problematic for a jason todd stan to say i know, but I think its kinda crazy when people demonize bruce for... believing in rehabilitation...

[frownyalfred]

thank you for the incredibly fast fic! also dw about exactly bruce, biological male, how pregnant. idgaf about actual scientific explanations even though bruce definitely wants them. in my mind the kryptonian dick was so good it gave bruce a womb equivalent and that's hot as hell. the kid can come out via c section or something. god bless krypton's magical reproductive systems!!! i am not thinking about it!!!

Thank you! Yes we just won’t think about it. Bruce will freak out and obsess about it for us. And truly when Bruce’s eyes were rolling back on the Watchtower, he wasn’t thinking about anything at all, so he’s gotta make up for that somehow 😅

[alittlesongbirdchirps]

Another weird AU idea.

When Bruce gets the chance to talk to his dead parents because of a reward from some higher being or something.

He gets to talk to his mother briefly but can’t seem to talk to his father, and when that higher beings like,

‘oh you wanna talk to your father but he isn’t in spirit, I’ll bring his soul, wait a moment.’

And then out of nowhere Jason who was eating soup, his second adopted son is suddenly Infront of him.

Jason is like what the fuck.

And Bruce is like what the fuck

Both for different reasons.

One, Jason spilt his soup and was suddenly summoned and somehow Bruce is right infront of him and he still pissed at him from patrol.

Bruce is like what the fuck because why has Jason appeared when this higher being said I’ll let you talk to your father soul.

‘Your father's soul is here.’

Jason blinking

“What the fuck is going on?”

The higher being

‘I have given Batman the reward to talk to his mother spirit and now you of his father soul.’

Jason trying to process shit, looks at Bruce then back at the higher being.

“Nah, you fucked up Bruce is my adopted dad, I don’t look that bad where one could think I’m old enough to be his dad.”

After everything was explained, Bruce drives the Batmobile home and Jason eating his cold soup in the back neither talking about the revelations.

“If I knew this was-“

Bruce was gonna say something but Jason cuts him off

“Shut the fuck up I’m trying to eat my soup in peace and process this fucked shit, I mean resurrection yes but reincarnation that some bullshit.”

“I think you got scammed by a higher being, Bruce.”

(It’s 2AM I should be asleep but fuck off grammar police.)

[mysterycitrus]

i think isolating the bats from their teams and external support systems is like….. functionally bad. like wdym red hood is on dicks speeddial but his actual soulmate donna troy isn’t. why is everyone in gotham. why do these people have no friends

[hijinxinprogress]

12 year old tim realizing robin’s not coming back to gotham and deciding that it’s Batman’s fault so he has to ruin the little bit of sanity and peace of mind Bruce has managed (read: struggled) to keep in his grasp:

[everwalldigan]

just a little curious about the people absolutely crashing out over the Bruce dating Joe chills daughter storyline (which I dislike cause I think it’s lazy and just bad storytelling but like… this doesn’t even scratch top 50 questionable love interests within the batfamily or even just Bruce) I wonder how do you guys feel about batcat in The Batman (2022)?

Bruce pursues a relationship with Selina Kyle and then finds out her father Carmine Falcone hired Chill to murder the Waynes and then stole their money for his own personal gain…. So technically his role is even worse than the Joe chill in the comics cause he actually premeditated their murders and directly benefitted from it, while the comic version of Joe Chill was an average criminal who just wanted some cash.

I’m just wondering why you think one is scandalous and the worst thing to happen to comics (it’s really not) while the other is okay and cutesy. Do you think it would be logical for Bruce to start condemning Selina for her father’s actions? She did know who Falcone was to her, even if she might not have known what he did to the Waynes, so it’s almost the same situation. (Completely ignoring Selinas and Scarlett’s morals/actions here cause it’s not the point I’m trying to make)

I understand most people have probably not even read the issues with Scarlett and are going off shock value from popular fandom posts (considering this has been going on for months and last months issue was not her first appearance, so why the uproar now?) but like most of us have probably watched The Batman (2022) and I have not seen discourse about that. I’m just curious as to what makes those two situations different (other than execution cause I’ll be the first person to call out Tom Taylor’s mediocre writing)

[officiallysleepdeprived]

I’m in a bad mood. :) (#1)

I can’t help but think that maybe, sometimes that Dick just stands in front of Jason’s memorial and think that it’s his fault. He didn’t answer when his little wing needed him, he didn’t know what is was like to die(yet) and Bruce, who’s just lost his son, wasn’t helping with that guilt and Dick couldn’t blame him.

If only his little brother would leave him alone, he followed him everywhere- at first he took it as a chance to apologize but he just didn’t leave and most times he’d just randomly stay and go but his little wing was always a wanderer at heart and hearing those giggles again just made him so happy and that cheerful smile whenever he got back from patrol or work that was waiting for him on his couch.

He knew it wasn’t healthy for him to latch onto little Jason but he decided that could go to hell when he first saw that shiny and full of teeth grin again, when he froze just hearing that giggling again. His little wing became part of his routine, sometimes when Dick couldn’t get out of bed because he felt so horrible, he’d just look to the side, smile and see Jason telling him to get up. Just like he did when he was alive..

Grief was sometimes Dick was familiar with and used to, so why was seeing him such a terrible thing in the eyes of other people? His dad would never judge him for it and neither would Babs(she’d be concerned but that was just what Babs did!) but seeing his little wing suddenly so grown up was something different, don’t get him wrong he’s tried to see what Jason would look like all grown up and out of the nest but to see his little brother’s face so suddenly and less blurry than before was something Dick could get used to.

Even if he still heard those cheery giggles sometimes..

[jasontoddsno1simp]

So!!

Now that the scar discourse is starting to die down, who's ready to examine how the "double wide fridge" descriptions are also classist af?!

[nocofamilyau]

total drama moment (4/8)

[mary-james-world-of-shames]

So... The Bat Family as Lilo and Stitch

Hi, yes, i'm not dead. it happens, moving on,

Since the release of the new lilo and stitch movie, I keep thinking about the old one and also I'm so so obsessed with bat family, but like more specifically Tim, more then that Tiny Tim. Especially Tiny Tim where he is not supposed to be(Someone shrunk Tim and he'd kid again, obsessed I tell you)

But I was like, haha. Bat family in the lense of lilo and stitch. Well, first I was like, okay, wht if it's Timbin, Nightiwng, and Red Hood fresh from the pit. But I circled back and thought wait. Damian would be more fitting. Jason can be Jumba, looking for the twerp. I don't know who Pleakley would be don't ask, this is word vomit for a thought I'm thinking through actively in this message. Maybe it's Cass, I don't know. I would say maybe Steph but I think that makes less since then Cass for dynamic reasons, and Steph isn't adopted... Right? Wait, is Cass adopted? I don't actually know, I'm new to all of this. My understanding is Dick, Cass, Jason, Tim, and Damian are all Bruce's kids, then Steph and Duke are more like foster kids or bff side character that's always at the main character's house. I... I have heard there is another with blue hair?? Listen, I ain't know jack shit, I haven't read anything but fanfiction and tumblr posts and some pinterest shit, 'ight? Kay, be fucking nice to me. thanks, moving on,

Thinking about okay, de-aged Tim having to be taken care of by Dick for a while, let's say this is when Bruce is "dead" or he's off planet or something. Maybe Dick and Tim haven't really spoken or made up, haven't really been around one another as a family for so long. (I don't know if they ever talked, like I said, I've read jackshit, i assume they haven't, I think DC is focused on other things, Yeah? yeah.)

But this is Tiny Tim, maybe it's Tim That's fresh to Robin and remembers oh yeah, I work with Dick and we're kinda family, yeah? Maybe it's more fitting for Bruce to still be assumed dead for the time being so Damian's still kinda insecure about his place as Robin and, well, elimination. So Damian as Stitch is like, well I know one thing, fight, fight, fight, and little Tim is like, "Wow! This kid is my age and we're both sort of Robin! A robin team! Friends!!" But you know, loner Tiny Tim has basically as much knowlege of friendship as Damian.

Dick is going through a lot having to balance Batman, two Robins, trying to figure out the cure for Tim(If there is one)

Wait wait, okay, here me out. Damian escapes instead of being taken to Bruce, Jason is still with the league(I know he's will them but I don't know how long or how they overlapped with Damian if it did at all, but for the sake of this, I will bend a few things, I can fuckin do that. I'm a fanfic writer. hell yeah.) So they're like, ah. Jason, get the blood son back please?

Okay, also here me out. Dick and Tim kinda having the falling out first, before Damian gets their, giving each other the silent treatment, going on their own routes, budding heads(Um... Oracle is... Oracle right now, right? We'll say yes. She's Also here. I guess she can maybe take the role of the love interest guy Nani has. I haven't actually watched the movie recently, this is all from memory, I'd watch it again before I fleshed this out)

Also if this all sound funky or shit, blame it on the hour of sleep, I am in a state at the moment, anyways, Dick and Tim have the sort of falling out and aren't talking well or working together like they normally do, Tim isn't respecting his as Batman right now, and Dick is so stressed he can't take on Tim's insistence that a deadman is alive, that dead man being his father who he is still fucking mourning. Furthermore, let's say Jason hasn't reappeared yet, so Jaybin is also still dead. So Dick has lost his brother who will forever haunt the narrative, and now his mentor and strange father/caretaker who he had a brotherly/fatherly/best friend bond with because Bruce is a teen dad to him, yes I said it, I think that Headcannon is so fucking funny it's cannon to me, anyways.

Dick is mourning, and Tim is not helping with his stress levels, man might drop dead from a heartattack at any second, their budding heads causes Tim to get hit but magically stuff and boom. Tiny Tim, who is still pretty freshly mourning Jaybin(I know there's a large gag between his training and him actually becoming Robin, mourning can take however long I says it does), and he's like, Hey, Nightwing, the fuck are you doing in Batman's suit? Where's Bruce?

Yeah, that does not bode well. Tiny Tim is now so confused and so sad and lost and while Dick wasn't really close to him at the start of him being Robin, he's even more distant now and Tiny Tim doesn't understand Why. Tiny Tim just wishes Bruce were back, hell, Tiny Tim wishes Robin were back. He didn't want to be Robin, he needed to be.

Well, let's say Damian's just being a little shit and is like, hm, actually I heard about my father, fuck y'all, I'm out. Yes, I know Stitch was going to be killed, but I can't think of any reason for them to do that, maybe it'll just be more fun that he's being a little shit, I don't know. And yes, do realize Talia and Jason could be the duo trying to get him back, but I know way less about Talia then I do anyone else, and I'll admit I don't know a lot about Cass. I get she learns have to talk because she was never taught and is super good at reading people, I think people make her use sign sometimes because?? I don't know having a mute character is fun? Representation maybe, It's a nice headcannon, even if I understand that's probably not right, she'll likely make a hell of a lot of silent ques with her body language, I'll probably not make her sign to at least make it closer to her character since I feel like I maybe don't know enough about her.

Anyways, Jason and Cass are sent off to return Damian. Jason, of course, hates Tim still, however being forced to observe and not interevent like he would have been allowed to if Damian wasn't such a little shit, Jason is kinda like, "Damn, why did no one tell me he was fucking tiny? Hasn't he been Robin for a few years now? What did Bruce just pluck the first kid he saw with black hair and blue eyes and it just happened to be from a fucking pre-school? What is happening??"

Dick ha very, very sad arguments and bonding with Tiny Tim that Damian just can. not. understand. He's never had this, he's never seen this, this is new and strange and he just can't get a grasp on it. Tiny Tim tries, like Lilo tries. and Damian gets it sometimes. Tiny Tim is teaching Damian about Robin, the non-fighting parts, the parts that are kind, compassionate, caring. Tiny Tim and Damian sort of balance one anyone out in the field, like two halves of one robin. Two wings that need to work together to fly. There are ups and downs with Tiny Tim and Damian, there are ups and downs with Tiny Tim and Dick, and more with Damian and Dick. Unlike Nani, of course Dick is more inclined to care for Bruce's fucking son.(Since unlike Stitch, he isn't at first believed to be a weird fucking dog).

Jason reeks fuckin havoc on the batcave, mostly because he knows Damian can handle it. He doesn't do much more then push Tiny Tim around because wow, this kid nearly broke his wrist trying to land a good punch and it might bruise because his little bony hand jamming into him but how the hell did Bruce, or Dick, decide this kid was okay to be doing field work.

Tiny Tim calls Oracle, of course, because?? There are strangers attacking his house and uh... Dick isn't home so... Tim contacts a trusted adult and suddenly Babs realizes why Dick always seems to be a second from cardiac arrest because what the fuck do you mean the robins are fight?? Tiny Tim, you're Robin. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE DEAD ROBIN???

Anyways it'll either end on a sweet family note or a bittersweet one were Tim runs off with Ra, Jason can't do this so he does Red hood and self reflecting stuff because he can't be apart of a family again. I donno, I like fix it fics bc damn everything is so sad, but I feel like this family is simply doomed by the narrative for the time being.

[wondersinwaynemanor]

here i go again with "big brother dick grayson strikes again" prompts.

thinking of Dick probably helping his siblings on their first dates and offering to take them to the location.

Dick to Jason: Hey, Little Wing. I know you can take one of your motorcycles, but let me take you. You can just focus on being pretty.

Jason: Shut up, Dick. But, are you sure? I don't know why my hands feel a bit numb-

Dick, takes Jason's hands on his to warm them up and untighten the nerves there: It's okay. I got you. You're okay. It's going to be okay. Don't stress yourself out.

Jason: I know I fucked up many times, Dick. I don't want.. I don't know what to do if I fuck this up.

Dick, brings Jason closer: Shh. You won't, Jay. You're very smart and strong, and so so caring and you don't even realize it it. Ask the kids at the Alley, they idolize you. Roy adores you and everything you do. He knows who you are. And trust me, I'm not that bitter anymore of one of my best friends dating my younger brother.

Jason smiles which warms Dick's heart, making him smile too.

Dick: Plus, we wouldn't want Ollie to think that a Wayne cannot dress up and be romantic right?

Jason grins this time.

Dick to Tim: Timmy, I have a great idea! I'll drive you there. I know you're tired from work already. Just let me know which restaurant then you can rest a bit when we travel there.

Tim: It's okay, Dick. You're also tired from your shift. I'll just let Kon know I'll be late for a few-

Dick: No, no. If you want to rest first, let him know, he'll understand. But I'll still take you.

Tim: But, Dick...

Dick: Nah-uh. I didn't drive you to prom, remember? Let me do this, Baby Bird. And for me to also look out for Lex, just in case he bothers Conner again. We don't want that happening in the middle of your date.

Tim, laughs: Well, Kon will just have to drag Lex's ass to space.

Dick laughs with him.

Dick to Cass: Aww, you look beautiful, Cass. So where you going? Where will you meet Steph?

Cass, fixing her necklace: By her house.

Dick: Great! I already know where that is. I'll drive you there. We don't want to ruin your beauty. I mean, that's totally impossible, but I want you to just relax before the date.

Cass, blushes: I can do it.

Dick: Of course, you can. But I want to. Pretty please, pretty please. I'm a little protective over my sister.

Cass, rolls her eyes fondly but smiles: Of course. Thank you.

Dick: You're most welcome. And tell Steph if she does something extreme like set some fireworks, tell her to lay off with those energy drinks she started on her diet.

Dick to Duke: Little D, Little D! Don't even try to say no cus maybe your brothers and sister have already told you, but this is kinda my tradition now. I'm taking you to your first date.

Duke: They did tell me. But, Dick.. I don't want to be a burden. Weren't you injured-

Dick: No, no. That was like last week. I'm good. As long as you're good with me to take you, right? Now, I don't want to be the burden.

Duke, smiles: Never.

Dick, smiles and gives Duke a side hug: Then you're never a burden too, Little D. A big bro has to look out for the younger ones. Plus, I can say that you dressing up nice comes from my influence.

Duke, chuckles: Who else am I looking up to, right?

Dick to Damian: Shush, Dami. I know you're dating a super, and he can come and get you without a minute to spare, but tell Jon I'll be taking you.

Damian: Richard, please. I'm already at the right age.

Dick, puts a hand on his little (not so anymore) brother's shoulder and he refuses not to tear up (he fails ofc): I know, you've grown up so much, Dami. So much, since I made you Robin. But please, it will make me really happy to do this. It will give me peace, in some way. It sounds ridiculous, but yes.

Damian, doesn't even try to hide the fond he has on his face: Alright, Richard. I'll let Jon know.

Dick: He's not taking you somewhere out of Gotham or Metropolis, right? Cus then we'll have to take the Batplane.

Damian, chuckles: It's in Metropolis, don't worry.

Dick: Phew. I was as nervous as the time I took Tim on his date.

so....

maybe after a few years on Dick and Wally's wedding day, Dick's younger siblings will be walking with him on the aisle by his side and Bruce, their Father, on his other side of course. and they're thankful that the aisle is wide enough to fit the whole Wayne kids. Dick is a crying mess and he hasn't even reached Wally yet by the end of the aisle. because he's genuinely happy to have his siblings take him to the love of his life this time.