#tim and babs and bruce and tim and babs and bruce

[livsoulsecrets]

Batfam + References to being family (Part 26)

Part 25

Batman: Gotham Knights #21 has Bruce telling Dick his compassion is something to be admired by any father in his son:

When Bruce is dosed with fear gas in Batman: Gotham Knights #23, he hallucinates getting the news of Leslie's death because "she's been like a mother" to him since his mom died.

Dick and Bruce have a heart to heart in Tales of the Teen Titans #50: "But believe me I couldn't have loved any son more."

In Batman: Gotham Knights #34, Bruce says Alfred is more than his employee and Bane replies "How fortunate to have two fathers in one life."

Cass tries to record a goodbye message to Babs in Batgirl (2000) #25: "You were like... like a... Mother."

In Batman: Gotham Knights #26, Bruce is being accused of murder and Dick shares his feelings with Alfred.

"I mean, I honestly never thought I could feel any more loyal to Bruce than I have since I was a kid, but... On top of everything, he's my father now, too."

In Batman: Gotham Knights #33, Bane asks Bruce about "the other children" upon seeing Dick and tells him "I never enjoyed the luxury of family".

In Nightwing #133, Bruce says he’s one of Dick’s fathers:

[randombatcharts]

Life, ya know?

[ladyloveandjustice]

One thing that always bothered me as a kid, and still bothers me, is it honestly makes so little sense Steph didn't rank super high on the scale of Martial Artists after receiving the Robin training, if it's so amazing. Considering what she could do while untrained, the experience she had, it's baffling that no one ever considered her a prodigy, or that she wasn't at least notably more skilled than say, Tim was, when she started out as Robin.

Like, Steph was in the field and knocking out grown men twice her size with zero training. It was not even mentioned that she took martial arts classes or anything to explain how she can do this, just gymnastics and softball. And both were high school gymnastics, high school softball, not fancy expensive classes??? Even Babs, in Batgirl Y1 had the advantage of having taken martial arts classes and presumably a lot more since her goal was to be in the FBI.

Meanwhile Steph like. She's jumping off rooftops and surfing trains and taking down bad guys with nothing. Tim's gone through extensive Batman training and trained with Lady Shiva and all this stuff, and obviously she's not as good as him and needs him to watch her back at times, but she can keep up with him, and even saves him or get the jump on him quite a few times, and that's incredible when you think about it. Tim gave her gadgets and instructions in the field, but it's never shown that he taught her any moves.

There's even a panel where Batman notes Stephanie almost snuck up on him and "not many people can do that" when again, no training, no martial arts classes, this is way before he agreed to give her any help at all-- and then for some reason, after noting this girl with no training is more talented than most people he knows, just keeps telling her she's not good enough and should go home.

That's a ridiculous level of raw talent, and it's honestly so bizarre nobody in the Batfamily ever noted that and kept telling her to go home. When she does get training, it's very sporadic, it is not clear how much Batman or Black Canary trained her the first time, he disappeared on her and then fired her as soon as he came back, and we never saw her get trained on screen by Dinah (the only person who ever acknowledged she had talent). She sparred with Cass, but Cass never taught her anything. Despite all this, she was noticeably getting way better during the era.

But when she received the six month Robin training that's supposed to make them so strong or whatever...how did that not result in her being a prodigy? She's the only Robin who was an experienced superhero before she took on the mantle?

Bruce literally tells her "Tim did this better" when he was training her about something, which makes no sense considering she came into being Robin with way more skills and experience and martial arts prowess??? When she was surviving on her own and fighting villains before that? When she could nearly sneak up on Bruce even before that?

You could claim she's a "bad student" or whatever, but she was a clearly very good at taking her gymnastic coach's instructions, enough to become a genius at it, so that doesn't really hold water.

The only explanation that would make any sense would be that Bruce taught her badly on purpose. which. unfortunately wouldn't be too far out of character from how he treated her in that era. (And that she apparently improved a lot under Babs tutelage as Batgirl but not his. So. Not a good look for him)

I mean the real answer for why all this makes no sense is DCs misogyny ofc. But it’s pretty wild how there’s no justification for this in universe.

[tojisun]

places this pebble as offering—

brucie being gotham’s darling boy and when people assumed that he’s dating batman (courtesy of his kids being silly) he keeps getting stopped by random people telling him to choose better or something. i dont know i just love brucie being seen as the lovable himbo or something. like

batman is seen kissing catwoman and gotham riots for brucie. #leavehim starts trending. dick gets on social media and rants about how you should never meet your heroes (lol) jason posts a picture of him thumbs-down-ing the bat symbol on the sky (louder lol), etc etc

steph posting edits of brucie and batman to mitski’s or radiohead’s songs or something (😭) tim maybe vague posting about how WE is thinking of stopping their partnership with a certain vigilante (lmao) duke getting stopped by classmates to ask how his dad’s doing and he goes on a long, heartfelt speech of how he’s never seen his dad look that devastated (which is. not a lie but bruce is devastated at what his kids pulled him into) ☝️

damian’s daily affirmations of #leavehim is actually the reason why the tag started trending. maybe cass reposts everything her siblings put out. she’s even got jason’s post (aptly captioned “boo”) pinned on her account and everything

…gotham’s underbelly thinks batman is a cheater. harley wanted confirmation from babs that he isn’t—that the dark knight is better than that—and she barely believes babs when she tells harley (and pam) that batman isn’t a cheater.

“why?”

“because they never even dated.”

babs was bruce’s favourite for a while.

well, until harley began to think that batman strung brucie along so the scandal grew even bigger

or something anyway it’s expanding so much in my head that i’m about to make a smau atp if i don’t stop so yea 😭

[quendlyn]

Do you think Bruce would have to teach his kids how to swim?

Dick grew up in the circus, he probably had learned how to swim whenever it stopped somewhere, but he probably doesn't have much practice. and whenever Bruce tries to teach him more baby dick probably got sad because he remembers his parents teaching him to swim and how'd they let him hold on to their shoulder as he swam around. Maybe when he's closer to Bruce and it's time to get out of the pool, in an attempt to stop Bruce, he'll just grab onto him like a barnacle, and Bruce will just get out of the pool with him dangling from his shoulders. It reminds Bruce of what Thomas would do for him.

Bruce doesn't need to teach Babs how to swim; Gordon did. He remembers Gordon bringing a little Barbara to learn in his big pool. It was one of his first interactions with her, and whenever baby Dick would be a barnacle she would too, he'd carry both of them out of the pool giggling as the desperately tried to cling onto him. She and little Dick would race each other and have splash fights. Bruce had a pool lift installed for her so she had an easier time getting in the water.

He'd definitely have to teach Jason how to swim. I doubt there are many pools in crime alley, let alone teachers. The only body of water Jason would have really seen would have likely been Gotham Harbor, so trying to get him into the pool could have been him really excited to learn to swim, him refusing to leave the shallow end for ages and when he does he's clinging to Bruce the whole time, or he straight up refuses to get into a pool entirely. Jason had to relearn how to swim after he was dunked into the pit because he was so much bigger now and would sink much easier.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Drake had a pool, but there's no way they got an instructor for Tim. Tim probably would have had to get himself and an instructor and forge his parents' signature, or he would have learned by watching YouTube videos and almost drowning. Bruce might have only taught him what he needed for being Robin, or maybe Lady Shiva tied bricks to his ankles and tossed him into a pool so he could work on his lock picking, holding his breath, and swimming at the same time. Heck, maybe Bruce did this for Robin training.

Damian likely would have already known how to swim by the time he got to Bruce, but he was likely just thrown in the water and forced to figure it out. One of his fondest memories of the LOA could have been Talia holding him up in the pool as he learned how to float. This memory would always also remind him of how one of his instructors would dunk his head into the water for long periods to teach him to hold his breath.

Cass likely would have experienced a similar situation to Damian. David Cain probably just through her into the pool, and the only reason she didn't drown was because she was naturally buoyant. He likely taught her to hold her breath by holding her underwater; she would tear up his arm with her nails, but he'd only let her up when she stopped moving. She never actually learned to hold her breath; she learned to act like she was drowning sooner so he'd let her up. This made Bruce try to teach Cass to hold her breath underwater very hard.

Steph, like Jason, wouldn't have known how to swim, but Bruce doesn't teach her how to swim either, because he's focused on other things. She learns how to swim from YouTube videos and Bruce's occasional help. Swimming isn't her strong suit, and she always sits in a lounge chair whenever the other are in the pool, because she "hates swimming".

Duke would know very little about swimming, but he would know how to; his parents found one of the only community pools in Gotham so they could teach him. Growing up, they would go to the pool every once in a while and on Duke's birthdays. He loves swimming even if he wasn't that great at it until he had Bruce's training. Every year on his birthday, he still goes to that pool sometimes, but it closed sometimes after his parents were hospitalized.

[svsssfrfr]

Batfam as things I have been through ig: Bruce: What... What is this code? Even I can't understand it! Tim: It works.. Bruce: Did this ever actually work? TIm: YES.

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Cass: *Playing classical music* Steph: *Crawls out of her wardrobe* Thank good they left, ready for patrol? Cass: How long have you been in there? Steph: 40 minutes to an hour? Give or take.

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Damian: Meet me in Crime ally at 5.55. Jason: Sure, do you want me to pick you up for something? Damian: I require a lift to supper. And do not refer to it as a 'picking up'. I am not a child.

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Bruce: *Coughing so hard he's crying , eyes puffy, sneezing and such* Fine! I may have hayfever. Dick: 'may'? Just may after all that?

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Steph: *Sitting in Cass' room* And you'll never believe what she said to me next.... She called ME a pick me. Duke:*Painting cass' nails*GASP. No she did not. Steph: And then she posted on her snapchat story ' I can't believe all my friends are leaving me for boys' Duke: LIKE SHE HAD ANY FRIENDS IN THE FIRST PLACE!

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Babs: You guys have been stationary at batburger on patrol for 45 minutes. Jason: There's a REALLY suspicious guy. Damian: He's wearing two hats. Babs: Very suspicious. Keep watch of this guy with two hats.

[haveihitanerve]

Tim has moments of trauma flashbacks where he reverts back into Joker Junior. 

Just starts laughing uncontrollably, eyes glassy, dissociating and in a constant state of smiling creepily, flinching at every loud noise, and cheering when bad things happen. 

The only thing that calms him in times like these is being hugged/cradled/soothed by Bruce or Babs. Others have tried, but their touch doesn't work. 

He just sits in their lap as they work, rubbing his back and whispering words of comfort, until his laughing turns into sobs and he just fully collapses against them as they just hold him, rocking back and forth and whispering that he’s safe now, that they’ve got him. 

When the tears run out and he’s wrung dry, he’ll slip away, head to his room and try to forget. They don’t follow. They want to, but they don't. 

They don't talk about it, but maybe a new gadget or piece of tech, or improved device or nuclear codes will be waiting for them on their desk the next day, 

Or maybe Tim will brew one of his special, extra strong cups of coffee for them after a particularly long patrol.

[batfam-stuff-posts-0]

[thebat-musicman]

Bruce is working at the McDonalds in the Wayne Enterprises cafeteria as he’s trying to uncover corruption.

Tim is working at the Taco Bell because the show Undercover Boss sounded fun

Babs is pretending to work at Panda Express in order to access their cameras because SOMEHOW the fucking Panda Express has the only camera in all of Wayne Enterprises that she cant access

Jason is working at the Starbucks because he’s trying to poach employees from Bruce, but doesnt want to do any actual business stuff.

Steph is working in the Waffle House because it was too on brand for her to not take the job when offered.

Duke is working at the Burger King because this is literally just his job.

Damian (and Jon stacked on top of Damian to make them seem like adults) is working in the Popeyes as Dick hopes this will make him connect with people more (it will not).

Dick is working at the Smoothie King because he honestly just got lost and this is more fun than his real job.

Cass stole uniforms from every single restaurant in the cafeteria and is pretending to work at all of them. She hasnt been reported yet because the workers dont care and no one can find the boss (rip tim)

None of them have noticed.

[ditzybat]

Dick, sighing: it’s hard being the only emotionally adjusted one in this family

Tim: LOUDDDD incorrect buzzer

Jason: you’re the most like Bruce out of all of us, and that man isnt exactly the poster child for emotional stability

Damian: I concur, while Timothy and Jason see their feelings as afterthoughts, and fear mine underminded - you, Richard, brood and suppress until the miscommunication blows up in your face, just like father.

Tim: exactly, the most expressive and normal one of our colony are the Batgirls… and that’s saying something

[demonicsuffrage]

Batman regularly conducts performance evaluations/reviews for all the justice league members on an annual basis

Someone in the league, probably Hal or Barry, brings up how unfair it is that none of the robins have to go through it, when it's the most daunting thing ever. So now, the batkids have to go through mandatory performance reviews too

Bruce: The audit team says the budget this time was way higher than the last?

Tim, who's laundering an entire batmobile: We just needed extra snacks to feed the bats in the cave

Bruce: They suddenly needed more food?

Tim: Actually the previous bats all adopted new baby bats. Cause they're all like you, you know?

Bruce, trying not to cry: okay

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Bruce: The record says you broke the 'no gun rule' fifty times in the past month.

Jason: Damn just fifty?

Bruce: That's not acceptable

Jason: What are you gonna do, fire me? Your poor posthumous son?

Bruce:

Jason: That's what I thought, see you at dinner

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Bruce: In the medical record, all your injuries are listed as 'nunya'. Care to elaborate?

Dick, hitting a pose: Nunya business

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Bruce: How would you rate yourself and your performance on a scale of 1-5?

Cass, trying to sound professional: 4.8

Bruce, concerned: Why did you deduct the 0.2? Self-esteem is important. You're getting a five, review over

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Bruce: What would you like to say about your repeated-

Duke: I'm severely understaffed, you know? As in, i literally work my shift alone, so

Bruce: Fair enough, I apologize, you may leave

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Bruce: In your own words, please explain why we should keep you around for another year

Damian, having to deal with this right after a long patrol: I'm your blood son. Would you fire me? Firing Richard as Robin wasn't enough?

Bruce:

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Bruce: What would you say your biggest flaws have been, while working this year?

Steph, experienced in these cause of her service jobs: I cared too much. And I worked too hard.

Bruce:

Steph: Can't forget I'm also too good at my job.

[greenmango-kai]

Duke introducing the bat fam

"This is my older brother, Tim, his spleen is being kept in a jar by my younger brother's grandfather and he has no sleep schedule."

"This is Jason, he's been missing for 5 years because he was in witness protection because he witnessed the Joker killing Robin, no he wasn't dead."

"This is Dick, yes everyone really does call him that, except for the youngest."

"This is Damian, he will try and kill you but if you bring him an animal you will be temporarily spared."

"This is Cass, she's knows what you're thinking."

"This is Barbara, Bruce has been trying to adopt her for years but the commissioner is still alive somehow."

"This is Bruce, if you give him puppy dog eyes, he'll probably give you money."

"This is Stephanie, we don't know where she came from but she's staying and we can't get rid of her."

"This is Alfred, yes he is the boss."

[erinwantstowrite]

Halloween AU!!!

hey so. i put SOOOOO much effort into this au and for what? at least it ended up looking cool? anyways Halloween is my favorite holiday and i just HAD to make something for them!

i had a LOT of ideas for what everyone would be, but i really wanted to stick to a certain theme cause it's based around Halloween. i knew i had to have a vampire, werewolf, and a witch. cause like... obviously. iconic Halloween stuff!! but i took some liberties with everyone else and i think they turned out pretty cool!!

Jason was originally a fox shifter (which i still love and might draw art for some day) but i went with a bear in the end. is that because i thought about tiny bear cub Jaybin and wanted to cry? yeah. yeah it is. i KNEW Steph was going to be my werewolf though i started doubting myself when i went to draw her. turned out to be my favorite drawing on here which makes sense cause she is my light my love my daughter my will to live and all that jazz

Tim was actually gonna be a harpy but thank god i didn't go for that in the end. Duke was the one that was a bitch and a half trying to figure out BUT!! comments on the post asking what y'all thought led me towards Psychic so THANK YOUUUU everybody that commented!! (specifically those who thought of ghost!! Duke and Tim ended up being a perfect duo in this au)

Babs was pretty easy to figure out what I wanted for her. I read somewhere that they are seen as protectors of forests/ are considered spiritual authority figures and also.... she looks cool as fuck. Did not expect how easy it was to find a ref for a deer in a wheelchair though? I can never find the right hand or face angle reference but that was super easy???

For Bruce there was literally no question he HAD to be human. it's literally so funny that everyone who knows Batman thinks he's a spooky vampire but he's human. his first son, however?????? THAT'S the vampire. I knew Dick had to be a vampire too. A little nod towards that one comic run but in my au nothing bad happens ever 🥰 Damian also being a bat shifter is very on purpose because how funny is it that he's a bat man. Literally not a single person in the League thinks that Bruce is telling the truth about being human. Bruce you are NOT beating the secretly a vampire allegations.

adding in Jay's hilarious joke it's so fucking funny:

Alfred is actually a demon. I CAN NOT remember who made this post so if someone can help me find it, it would be appreciated!! because this was inspired by them!!! but somewhere i saw someone talk about Alfred being a demon that Thomas and Martha made a deal with (i think it was for an au idea?) and I just HAD to put it here. Alfred looks so human and everyone expects it, but he's definitely not. I put the ??? because it's so fucking funny. see if you can spot the 1 hint i put on his drawing that something is amiss!!

Peter is from an alternate dimension still, but it is not a world of creatures like him, it's just the same as LoF canon except Peter grew some extra limbs and eyes. He finds that it's actually pretty easy to fit in with the Waynes. Hard to feel like a freak when a guy can turn into a fucking bear, or your dad is a vampire, and the teenagers in the family are trying to summon ghosts or make potions.

additional doodles for this au:

i am still debating whether i am going to draw something for this au or write a oneshot, but i DO want to do something with these for Halloween

[theerurishipper]

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Masterpost

[shyjusticewarrior]

Tim: Can you proofread this for me?

Barbara: Sure, what is it?

Tim: A list for Bruce of things he shouldn't say to Jason.

Barbara: He ask for this?

Tim: No, I just think he needs one.

Barbara: Smart man. So what brought this on?

Tim: After being stuck in the nightmare realm with Jason, I've had moments of "Bruce should not have said that to him."

Barbara: Yeah, I've had those moments a lot.

Tim: Hence where you come in. My knowledge is pretty much limited to what I learned in the nightmare realm. Out of us, you're one of the people who knows him best.

Tim: Speaking of, you know where Dick is right now? I wanna give him a copy too.

Barbara: Good call, being raised by Bruce has made him rather fluent in communication issues. He should be here soon.

[hehether]

Let's get high on ibuprofen together